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CHAPTERS: 00:00 Intro 05:39 The Making of Dominic’s Musical 09:00 What’s it Like to Be an Evacuee? 15:38 ‘Kisses on a Postcard’ Preview 20:34 Dominic’s Father’s Time During the War 22:06 The Impact of WW2 on Society 30:51 Continuing Dominic’s Father’s Project 35:57 How to Get a Show on the West End 48:35 What's the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?
Wow, first I thought I'm hearing the siren here, because I'm in Kyiv. Then I couldn't stop listening, although I'm in the gym and fighting back tears. My boys are 9 and 5, luckily we were leaving all together, they've had a good time, we were surrounded by wonderful kind people. Can't imagine sending them away.
We live in a village, my father had evacuees as friends when he was a child. When dad got dementia he used to call me Norman? Norman was the evacuee and was the only lad in the village with a proper football during the war! At least I reminded dad of someone who made him happy..... Norman never went back home, he lived in the house he was adopted into until he recently died.
My Dad who died in June was evacuated from Glasgow to Troon at the age of 4 with his brother who was 10. They were with 12 other lads who were looked after by one lady. Although he had happy memories of Troon & although my parents were married for over 60 years we were a very dysfunctional family & I have always put it down to my Dad's trauma from being separated from his family at such a young age. My Mum's family wouldn't let her go & while my grandparents were ostricised for this my Mum was completely grounded & I believe the reason why they stayed married & how we survived our dysfunctional family. I look forward to hearing Domonic' s Dad's story
I think the musical will be an emotional watch, I balled my eyes out just to the first song. 😭 My parents both were young kids in WW2, they both had different stories to tell, and how I regret not recording them,or writing it down. 😢
My late father was an evacuee, but he moved around the country; he didn't stay in one place for the duration. In the first instance he was sent to Canterbury. He said he'd go up on the downs after school, lie back and watch the dogfights, high above. Then Canterbury started being blitzed (a bomb landed near his house while they sheltered under the stairs, all the windows blew in) and he was moved on. He was only eight.
38:20 to KK's question, I'm a millennial and I love history, esp WWII history. I watch, read, and listen to everything I can get my hands on, so yes I will be listening to kisses on a postcard! thank you for this episode, I don't think I would have heard of this musical otherwise 💜💜
My dad joined the RAF at 18years old (before being called up) He was an intelligence officer during the war. After the war they were all asked in they wanted jobs with the M.O.D. now, later or not. My dad chose later because he felt that he needed to go home to Yorkshire first. On his arrival at the family home he was told by his 'step mother' that there was no room for him. He spent the next 12 months in a shelter for homeless men, living from his suitcase.(which he had to take to work and back)for 12 months. His job had been kept open for him for his return. A friends mother at some point offered him lodging. He soon after accepted a position within MOD in Staffordshire.
When the war broke out my dad and his mum were evacuated from Cairo to South Africa. He was put into a boarding school there at age 5 so his mum could work to support them both because there was no way for his dad's army pay to be sent to his mum. They just knuckled down and did what had to be done and never felt sorry for themselves or considered themselves victims.
I met Terrence Frisby once when we were both speaking at an event (West Country Writers - he was a member because of his childhood). He was a lovely, supportive guy, true gentleman.
My mum and her sister (Win and Barbara Clapperton) were evacuated with her sister to Biddenden in Kent from London. 60years later I went to Biddenden with both sisters. I remember my mum marvelling at great baskets of apples and pears outside the village shop and being told they could help themselves. They couldn't believe their luck, free apples!
This episode in British history has found its greatest expression in children's literature. Not just The Lion, The Witch And The Wardrobe and Goodnight Mr Tom but also Carrie's War by Nina Bawden. I remember being frightened to death as a child by the 1970s BBC adaptation.
I never thought I'd hear Liskeard mentioned on Triggernometry. I've lived here for the last 5 years, after living in Manchester, London, Washington DC, and Edinburgh; and there isn't a lot about living in a city that I miss. I think there's been such an influx of people from around the UK into Cornwall that hearing someone with a thick Cornish accent is a pretty rare occurrence!
My mum was evacuated in WW2 from the East end of London and sent to Cheltenham, she was 12 years old. War time London was very scary. A bombing raid one night missed my mums house but instead hit the next doors house which was left in rubble. She didn't return back to London until she was 16.
Listened to this on podcast and came here for a rerun - that’s good this one is! Thank you for introducing kisses on a postcard - I listened to the musical and will buy the book.
This conversation reminds me of Twice-rescued Child, the story of Thomas Graumann. He was a Jew in Czechoslovakia, sent to England for safety, only to find after the war that all his family perished in the Holocaust. So much tragedy, but something many Europeans went through that everyone seems to keep reaching out to talk about this important part of history.
My husband, deceased 25 years, told me about the children that were evacuated. His family was one of the families that took in the children. There was no option, soldiers showed up with children and told them they were now responsible for them. He said they had all the windows covered for a complete blackout. There wasnt enough food so everyone lost weight and many children, including my husband, developed boils from the lack of good nutrition. Entire towns only consisted of women, children and old people. They tried to garden but unless you had a warm greenhouse, the weather was too cold. As soon as he was old enough he went to war. He didnt see his father for nearly 10 years. He said there were a number of married women whose husbands were at war and they became pregnant. Eventually when all the husbands came home there was an uneasy truce as men faced raising children that could not be theirs.
Recently I had my teenage children rewatch Bedknobs and Broomsticks upon the death of Angela Lansbury. They had watched it as children and just thought it was a fun movie. This time they wanted to know why the children were going to a strange town and we had to stop the movie several times so I could explain things in a historical context. They had never heard of it. Maybe because it happened to British children and we are in America, that is no excuse! Hard to find the gaps in our children's education and fix them! There are so many...
I recommend a drama called Goodnight Mr Tom with the late John Thaw - it's about a boy from London being evacuated to a village and being sent to live with an old curmudgeon.
As an Australian I first found out about it reading, "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe," in year three. I also recommend the movie,"Goodnight Mr Tom."
Many of the children who fled London, were part of the kindertransport. These children where already forced to flee their original homes, came to London treid to settle with their new families only to have to flee once more from the air raids ! Heartbreaking
My father and aunt were evacuated to Holmfirth to live with their Aunt Zena. My gran didn't like them being away so they were brought back just in time for the May Blitz on Liverpool. Scary times.
The problem with knowing our history is they way schools teach it. So many kids now are totally uninspired by history, even when I was at school it was taught in such a boring way, you became so far removed from it there was no interest. I've leant so much more myself as an adult than I ever learnt at school, and our school actually still taught our own history.
There were a few thousand children evacuated to the USA from the UK, so their parents wouldn't have had a chance to visit them at all. I can't imagine how hard that must have been for the families.
My grandparents kept all the children with them...and had more! 11 in total. My dad was born the night they were bombed out. They couldnt bear to be separated, but it was a very difficult decision. My mums side my Nan joined up, was injured by a bomb and was invalided out. My mum was born at the end of the war. My great gran and grandad on my mums side were also bombed out. They all lived near the docks in south east London. My Dads family were rehoused in offices north of the river because there was nowhere for them to go for quite a while.
I do feel like a lot of the newer generation have no idea what life was like or what people went through. My grandfather was in a Japanese Prisoner of War camp. I’m told by my mother that my grandfather was 6ft 2 and when he came out of the camp, he weighed 7st 7lbs (105lbs).
I remember a beautiful play from school, i think it was called 'Kindergarten Express'? It was about children being evacuated during the war too. I'm glad i listened to this interview, very interesting topic!
This happened to me and my brothers in the early 1970’s. We were picked up from school in london . And put in a taxi Driven to Paddington station london and put on a train with a note……I remember being anxious as hell but remained outwardly stoic as my younger bro was visibly upset and I had to look after him …. had no idea where we were going. But the conductor was kind and checked up on us and said not to worry & He would tell us when it was time to get off . I was 7. My younger bro was 5 and elder was 8……….. there’s so much more to this story I could go on. Although we didn’t know at the time we were being ‘secretly’ moved to avoid kidnapping. But I haven’t thought of this for decades until coming across this podcast …………
My grandmother, who was a solo parent living in the East-end London, refused to send her daughters. I have no idea if this attracted a penalty, but there it is: not everyone capitulated.
My mother lived in the inner-city suburb of Canton, Cardiff, near the docks and the railway. She was the right age but was never evacuated -- though there was some talk of her going to stay with distant relatives up in the Valleys. It never happened. As a result, she had a hardish war, being under instructions to run home as fast as she could if the air raid siren sounded whilst she was at her nearby primary school. It happened many times, and when the All Clear was given she would dawdle back along with all the other kids who had been told the same thing.
This should be taught in schools. Might make kids of today see how lucky they are. My own sister had an awful time, and my brother was never the same when he came home.
Really interesting conversation. Will be checking out the "Kisses on a postcard" podcast. I think its really important to learn from, not only history but our older generations experiences.
While I didn’t witness any of the war myself, I know the horrors of it given to me first hand by my grandparents. But they are gone along with most of this generation now, and with it we lose these first hand accounts. Let’s hope the next generation doesn’t forget how awful war can be.
My mothers Family are Gibraltarian; because the Rock was considered a high Value German Target a mass evacuation was carried out. My mother and her entire family, all their friends and wider relatives were evacuated to London at exactly the same time as the Londoner’s evacuation was taking place. They remained there throughout the Blitz; some of the only children left in London. They often used to hang around the AckAck guns as the Gunners would spoil them and even share their rations. Funny old world.
I learned about this from reading WW2 fiction. I don’t think we appreciate that the people living through these events really didn’t know what was going to happen next and if they’d see their families again. It’s so tragic and hard for us to relate to because we’ve lived in relative peace for so long. The Star and the Shamrock is a really interesting series about Jewish kids evacuating from Germany to Ireland during the war. I really had no idea that Ireland was neutral during the war and I’ve read countless books and seen countless documentaries on the topic.
Lots of people didn’t send their kids away, my grandparents and my husbands didn’t, they all stayed together rather than chance I suspect them being abused.
Amazing story from what some might say were Britain's finest, most united years- for sure its bravest. Sad observation that the current multicultural society would be less trusting generally (22:57) but some professor years ago researched the question, found it was true, and for a long time was too scared to release his findings.
I’m not a fan of musicals… I’m deaf… but I hope that the show does well. The time around WW2 is the most important period in history and my generation (millennials) and younger don’t know anywhere near enough. It completely shaped the world we live in today and all the stories, including the evacuees need to be told. Side note but get TIKHistory on! I’ve been asking him to and I hope you give him the time. What he has to say is very controversial but also very important. I think he deserves the time to tell his story.
My mother was evacuated and she didn’t see her mother again, her mother died six months later due to a stillbirth and bled to death. Her father was worse than useless and abandoned his remaining children. She was just nine years old.
@@pamdelaney5149 she was, sadly now she 92 and has advanced dementia, but was fiercely independent and looked after herself because she had to from the age of 14 when she left her evacuee foster mother. Luckily she had an older sister who took her in.
@@sarahhardcastle2433 I am so sorry Sarah. 😟. Dementia is so confusing and hard...for everyone who loves them. Your mom, she seems to have done well with you. A gentleman once said, and it has stayed with me..."Those who dive deep in the sea of affliction sometimes bring up rare pearls". Not easy, but true.
Two observations. At the time it was considered as likely to have cities attacked with gaz bombs. It didn't happen but the British government had to take that into account. Though the little evacuees certainly suffered from the situation, children weren't pampered as they are today.
This is an interesting story that I've never heard about, but holy shit do I fucking _hate_ musicals, with a profundity unknown to mortal men. I do hope it's successful though.
What is this nonsense? Refugees are 90% males of fighting age. What is with these children? While our men of fighting age were loosing their lives and limbs in Afghanistan. Our government was delighted to be taking in Afghan males of fighting age and didn't think to train them up and send them right back again to fight the Taliban.
My nan was 3rd of 10 and was in the British Army posted to Egypt where she married my grandfather. She never saw her younger siblings again. She thought two were sent to Canada but with rebuilding England after the war, she never saw them again.
The founder of the platform locals seems to be confused about what he thinks about a state attacking a peacful neighbor and torturing, killing and kidnapping their men, women and children, are you still all in with this platform FF and KK?
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CLICK the link: triggernometry.locals.com/
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
05:39 The Making of Dominic’s Musical
09:00 What’s it Like to Be an Evacuee?
15:38 ‘Kisses on a Postcard’ Preview
20:34 Dominic’s Father’s Time During the War
22:06 The Impact of WW2 on Society
30:51 Continuing Dominic’s Father’s Project
35:57 How to Get a Show on the West End
48:35 What's the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?
Slags!
Oh God. You're not playing fair here gent's. Not a dry eye.
Wow, first I thought I'm hearing the siren here, because I'm in Kyiv. Then I couldn't stop listening, although I'm in the gym and fighting back tears.
My boys are 9 and 5, luckily we were leaving all together, they've had a good time, we were surrounded by wonderful kind people.
Can't imagine sending them away.
We live in a village, my father had evacuees as friends when he was a child. When dad got dementia he used to call me Norman? Norman was the evacuee and was the only lad in the village with a proper football during the war! At least I reminded dad of someone who made him happy..... Norman never went back home, he lived in the house he was adopted into until he recently died.
that’s so wholesome, it’s great that you found some brightness in a hard situation 😊
My Dad who died in June was evacuated from Glasgow to Troon at the age of 4 with his brother who was 10. They were with 12 other lads who were looked after by one lady. Although he had happy memories of Troon & although my parents were married for over 60 years we were a very dysfunctional family & I have always put it down to my Dad's trauma from being separated from his family at such a young age. My Mum's family wouldn't let her go & while my grandparents were ostricised for this my Mum was completely grounded & I believe the reason why they stayed married & how we survived our dysfunctional family. I look forward to hearing Domonic' s Dad's story
What a storyteller. I do enjoy listening to Dominic.
I think the musical will be an emotional watch, I balled my eyes out just to the first song. 😭
My parents both were young kids in WW2, they both had different stories to tell, and how I regret not recording them,or writing it down. 😢
Was not expecting to get a lump in my throat from Triggernometry
I also cried.
Me too
My late father was an evacuee, but he moved around the country; he didn't stay in one place for the duration. In the first instance he was sent to Canterbury. He said he'd go up on the downs after school, lie back and watch the dogfights, high above. Then Canterbury started being blitzed (a bomb landed near his house while they sheltered under the stairs, all the windows blew in) and he was moved on. He was only eight.
The intro made me cry. The resiliency of human beings is one of the (few) things that gives me hope.
The stories of children fleeing London during the war always reminds me of The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe.
As an Australian, until we read the book in grade three, I had no idea children were evacuated.
Makes me think of Bedknobs and Broomsticks
"For Narnia and for Aslan!"
Me too!
Its the opposite with me
38:20 to KK's question, I'm a millennial and I love history, esp WWII history. I watch, read, and listen to everything I can get my hands on, so yes I will be listening to kisses on a postcard! thank you for this episode, I don't think I would have heard of this musical otherwise 💜💜
My dad joined the RAF at 18years old (before being called up) He was an intelligence officer during the war. After the war they were all asked in they wanted jobs with the M.O.D. now, later or not. My dad chose later because he felt that he needed to go home to Yorkshire first. On his arrival at the family home he was told by his 'step mother' that there was no room for him. He spent the next 12 months in a shelter for homeless men, living from his suitcase.(which he had to take to work and back)for 12 months. His job had been kept open for him for his return. A friends mother at some point offered him lodging. He soon after accepted a position within MOD in Staffordshire.
When the war broke out my dad and his mum were evacuated from Cairo to South Africa. He was put into a boarding school there at age 5 so his mum could work to support them both because there was no way for his dad's army pay to be sent to his mum. They just knuckled down and did what had to be done and never felt sorry for themselves or considered themselves victims.
I met Terrence Frisby once when we were both speaking at an event (West Country Writers - he was a member because of his childhood). He was a lovely, supportive guy, true gentleman.
It's always a great pleasure to hear from Mr Frisby.
Sounds like two angels took these boys in. Profoundly sad for them losing their own child. 😔
Yes!
My mum and her sister (Win and Barbara Clapperton) were evacuated with her sister to Biddenden in Kent from London. 60years later I went to Biddenden with both sisters. I remember my mum marvelling at great baskets of apples and pears outside the village shop and being told they could help themselves. They couldn't believe their luck, free apples!
This episode in British history has found its greatest expression in children's literature. Not just The Lion, The Witch And The Wardrobe and Goodnight Mr Tom but also Carrie's War by Nina Bawden. I remember being frightened to death as a child by the 1970s BBC adaptation.
I never thought I'd hear Liskeard mentioned on Triggernometry.
I've lived here for the last 5 years, after living in Manchester, London, Washington DC, and Edinburgh; and there isn't a lot about living in a city that I miss. I think there's been such an influx of people from around the UK into Cornwall that hearing someone with a thick Cornish accent is a pretty rare occurrence!
My mum was evacuated in WW2 from the East end of London and sent to Cheltenham, she was 12 years old. War time London was very scary. A bombing raid one night missed my mums house but instead hit the next doors house which was left in rubble. She didn't return back to London until she was 16.
Listened to this on podcast and came here for a rerun - that’s good this one is! Thank you for introducing kisses on a postcard - I listened to the musical and will buy the book.
Thank you!
This was an excellent episode. Thoroughly enjoyed it. First musical I've ever been interested in.
This conversation reminds me of Twice-rescued Child, the story of Thomas Graumann. He was a Jew in Czechoslovakia, sent to England for safety, only to find after the war that all his family perished in the Holocaust. So much tragedy, but something many Europeans went through that everyone seems to keep reaching out to talk about this important part of history.
My husband, deceased 25 years, told me about the children that were evacuated. His family was one of the families that took in the children. There was no option, soldiers showed up with children and told them they were now responsible for them. He said they had all the windows covered for a complete blackout. There wasnt enough food so everyone lost weight and many children, including my husband, developed boils from the lack of good nutrition. Entire towns only consisted of women, children and old people. They tried to garden but unless you had a warm greenhouse, the weather was too cold. As soon as he was old enough he went to war. He didnt see his father for nearly 10 years. He said there were a number of married women whose husbands were at war and they became pregnant. Eventually when all the husbands came home there was an uneasy truce as men faced raising children that could not be theirs.
Recently I had my teenage children rewatch Bedknobs and Broomsticks upon the death of Angela Lansbury. They had watched it as children and just thought it was a fun movie. This time they wanted to know why the children were going to a strange town and we had to stop the movie several times so I could explain things in a historical context. They had never heard of it. Maybe because it happened to British children and we are in America, that is no excuse! Hard to find the gaps in our children's education and fix them! There are so many...
I recommend a drama called Goodnight Mr Tom with the late John Thaw - it's about a boy from London being evacuated to a village and being sent to live with an old curmudgeon.
There's so much to learn about WWII that it's impossible to cover all of it in school. Especially if it's about another country.
As an Australian I first found out about it reading, "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe," in year three. I also recommend the movie,"Goodnight Mr Tom."
@@camerachica73 yes I also enjoyed that movie.
@@camerachica73 A movie to make grown men sob like babies. Other grown men I mean...not me.
My Grandad was evacuated from Newcastle to Yorkshire with his siblings and his Mum. Still loves the part of Yorkshire he was sent to to this day
Speaking as an American, I'd say that British culture has a much larger impact on American culture than conversely, proportional to population.
15 minutes into podcast and already welling up but also recommended to 2 people already
Many of the children who fled London, were part of the kindertransport. These children where already forced to flee their original homes, came to London treid to settle with their new families only to have to flee once more from the air raids ! Heartbreaking
My father and aunt were evacuated to Holmfirth to live with their Aunt Zena. My gran didn't like them being away so they were brought back just in time for the May Blitz on Liverpool. Scary times.
I've just subscribed to Kisses on a Postcard, and I'm looking forward to listening to it.
The problem with knowing our history is they way schools teach it. So many kids now are totally uninspired by history, even when I was at school it was taught in such a boring way, you became so far removed from it there was no interest. I've leant so much more myself as an adult than I ever learnt at school, and our school actually still taught our own history.
I'm a 73-yo American, and I can tell you history was taught the same way here.
There were a few thousand children evacuated to the USA from the UK, so their parents wouldn't have had a chance to visit them at all. I can't imagine how hard that must have been for the families.
My grandparents kept all the children with them...and had more! 11 in total. My dad was born the night they were bombed out. They couldnt bear to be separated, but it was a very difficult decision. My mums side my Nan joined up, was injured by a bomb and was invalided out. My mum was born at the end of the war. My great gran and grandad on my mums side were also bombed out. They all lived near the docks in south east London. My Dads family were rehoused in offices north of the river because there was nowhere for them to go for quite a while.
What a lovely sweet man. Great interview.
I was ten when I was evacuated to Dorchester, really loved it.
My mother was evacuated to Cambridgeshire she really loved it there didnt want to come back
I remember rationing in 1953 - I went with my mother to a shop and she paid with tokens in her ration book.
I have just listened to the 1st part and it's really good.
I do feel like a lot of the newer generation have no idea what life was like or what people went through. My grandfather was in a Japanese Prisoner of War camp. I’m told by my mother that my grandfather was 6ft 2 and when he came out of the camp, he weighed 7st 7lbs (105lbs).
I'm a woman, 5ft 5inches and once I dropped to 7st 7 and my BMI at the time was 15.5. For a man of that height I can only imagine. :(
I remember a beautiful play from school, i think it was called 'Kindergarten Express'? It was about children being evacuated during the war too. I'm glad i listened to this interview, very interesting topic!
My mum was 5 or 6 and was sent to Wales, she thought they'd sent her to Germany.
I had to download this on Audible after hearing this. Great stuff.
A beautiful and touching musical, richly woven with the English countryside and culture. Everyone should have a listen!
thanks to Triggernometry and Mr. D Frisby
This happened to me and my brothers in the early 1970’s. We were picked up from school in london . And put in a taxi Driven to Paddington station london and put on a train with a note……I remember being anxious as hell but remained outwardly stoic as my younger bro was visibly upset and I had to look after him …. had no idea where we were going. But the conductor was kind and checked up on us and said not to worry & He would tell us when it was time to get off . I was 7. My younger bro was 5 and elder was 8……….. there’s so much more to this story I could go on. Although we didn’t know at the time we were being ‘secretly’ moved to avoid kidnapping. But I haven’t thought of this for decades until coming across this podcast …………
this was amazing - well-done guys!
My grandmother, who was a solo parent living in the East-end London, refused to send her daughters. I have no idea if this attracted a penalty, but there it is: not everyone capitulated.
My mother lived in the inner-city suburb of Canton, Cardiff, near the docks and the railway. She was the right age but was never evacuated -- though there was some talk of her going to stay with distant relatives up in the Valleys. It never happened.
As a result, she had a hardish war, being under instructions to run home as fast as she could if the air raid siren sounded whilst she was at her nearby primary school. It happened many times, and when the All Clear was given she would dawdle back along with all the other kids who had been told the same thing.
Great conversation. I'll listen to the story on his website.
My mother was sent to countryside during WW2 and unfortunately had a 1 kiss experience.
This should be taught in schools. Might make kids of today see how lucky they are. My own sister had an awful time, and my brother was never the same when he came home.
Speaking of "audio," I remember being mesmerized by radio dramas such as "Dragnet."
I have so much admiration for Dominic; he is so erudite, passionate, and decent. Great interview boys.
More people need to know our history, an what REALLY happened, good, bad and ugly
My grandmother was evacuated to Suffolk during WWII. She joined the Land Army, met my grandfather, married & the rest is history...
Really interesting conversation. Will be checking out the "Kisses on a postcard" podcast. I think its really important to learn from, not only history but our older generations experiences.
While I didn’t witness any of the war myself, I know the horrors of it given to me first hand by my grandparents. But they are gone along with most of this generation now, and with it we lose these first hand accounts. Let’s hope the next generation doesn’t forget how awful war can be.
It’s about time their story is told. Forgotten little heroes.
Just finished reding the book, it is gteat. The podcast musical is superb and a must listen
My mothers Family are Gibraltarian; because the Rock was considered a high Value German Target a mass evacuation was carried out.
My mother and her entire family, all their friends and wider relatives were evacuated to London at exactly the same time as the Londoner’s evacuation was taking place.
They remained there throughout the Blitz; some of the only children left in London. They often used to hang around the AckAck guns as the Gunners would spoil them and even share their rations.
Funny old world.
Great story teller
Why did the latest RAW get pulled? Been looking forward to listening to that.
Is YT trying to censor them? They left a comment further up on someone's comment but when I dropped down the replies their comment didnt show.
I learned about this from reading WW2 fiction. I don’t think we appreciate that the people living through these events really didn’t know what was going to happen next and if they’d see their families again. It’s so tragic and hard for us to relate to because we’ve lived in relative peace for so long. The Star and the Shamrock is a really interesting series about Jewish kids evacuating from Germany to Ireland during the war. I really had no idea that Ireland was neutral during the war and I’ve read countless books and seen countless documentaries on the topic.
Lots of people didn’t send their kids away, my grandparents and my husbands didn’t, they all stayed together rather than chance I suspect them being abused.
Class guest.
Amazing story from what some might say were Britain's finest, most united years- for sure its bravest. Sad observation that the current multicultural society would be less trusting generally (22:57) but some professor years ago researched the question, found it was true, and for a long time was too scared to release his findings.
I’m not a fan of musicals… I’m deaf… but I hope that the show does well. The time around WW2 is the most important period in history and my generation (millennials) and younger don’t know anywhere near enough. It completely shaped the world we live in today and all the stories, including the evacuees need to be told.
Side note but get TIKHistory on! I’ve been asking him to and I hope you give him the time. What he has to say is very controversial but also very important. I think he deserves the time to tell his story.
Brilliant 👏 👏 👏 I feel like this will have given the two of you a battery recharge. Really interesting.
My mum's from that generation. Luckily she didn't have to be evacuated as she's from rural Yorkshire.
My mother was evacuated and she didn’t see her mother again, her mother died six months later due to a stillbirth and bled to death. Her father was worse than useless and abandoned his remaining children. She was just nine years old.
Very sad
So sorry 😔
Sorry. She must have been a resilient person, your mom.
@@pamdelaney5149 she was, sadly now she 92 and has advanced dementia, but was fiercely independent and looked after herself because she had to from the age of 14 when she left her evacuee foster mother. Luckily she had an older sister who took her in.
@@sarahhardcastle2433 I am so sorry Sarah. 😟. Dementia is so confusing and hard...for everyone who loves them. Your mom, she seems to have done well with you. A gentleman once said, and it has stayed with me..."Those who dive deep in the sea of affliction sometimes bring up rare pearls". Not easy, but true.
My next podcast. Thank you!
Carbon Fiber ftw 🙌
Tell you a great WW2 book that's rarely talked about its called savage continent. Not for the people who get upset reasonably easily.
Two observations.
At the time it was considered as likely to have cities attacked with gaz bombs. It didn't happen but the British government had to take that into account.
Though the little evacuees certainly suffered from the situation, children weren't pampered as they are today.
Today, they'd be having daily therapy sessions to interrogate all their feelings about it.
If you're familiar with WW2, you'll be somewhat familiar with evacuation of children during the war, whether in England, Germany etc.
Purchased on Audible before I finished listening! Hope this is a few pennies towards a fabulous project 😁
Thanks. Audible will be the audiobook- not the same as the musical!
There was a rather famous book and a rather famous play that dealt with this phenomenon.
I grew up in London in the sixties, there were still bomb sights around even then
This is an interesting story that I've never heard about, but holy shit do I fucking _hate_ musicals, with a profundity unknown to mortal men. I do hope it's successful though.
It's wild to me that people just let their children go. I would never. I'd move with them first. Fucking crazy.
What if you had no choice? Would you keep them with you knowing that would kill them? I hope we never have to make that decision. 😣
It's very hard, you never know until you try, I guess. I could not stay abroad, I came back home, although objectively it's safer away.
@@opodobedTrue. Sometimes, what people can tolerate is unspeakable. Sometimes, it breaks us. Much love to you, my neighbor.
they say we, but it wasn't them. it was us.
Sounds like boarding school.
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Like listening to your old uncle not a creepy one btw
But only today's children have it hard...
This is such a great subject and story but man o man, musicals 😅
What is this nonsense? Refugees are 90% males of fighting age. What is with these children? While our men of fighting age were loosing their lives and limbs in Afghanistan. Our government was delighted to be taking in Afghan males of fighting age and didn't think to train them up and send them right back again to fight the Taliban.
My nan was 3rd of 10 and was in the British Army posted to Egypt where she married my grandfather. She never saw her younger siblings again. She thought two were sent to Canada but with rebuilding England after the war, she never saw them again.
The founder of the platform locals seems to be confused about what he thinks about a state attacking a peacful neighbor and torturing, killing and kidnapping their men, women and children, are you still all in with this platform FF and KK?
@Steffi Haas I was talking about Dave Rubin and you seem a bit to hatefull to be talking about peace.