EVERYTHING IS FREE - Command & Conquer Remastered
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2020
- What would happen if all buildings and forces didn't cost anything and were created instantly in Command & Conquer: Red Alert Remastered? Find out in this video, where the Allied AI takes on the Soviet AI in a best of three match.
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Let me know what you think about this format and what suggestions you have. Team matches and Free For All are coming up if people enjoy this one!
Das good shit!
Try to change sides on same maps. And I'd like to see some vertical maps.
Are you able to do teams? It'd be cool to see 2v2s.
Side note, I'm amazed at how balanced this old game is.
i want to see V2s ;)
You could change the audio balance and make sound effects less audible compared to the music.
That Turret by the Ore Refinery on the last battle is the true MVP
This was more fun than most sporting events. I would watch more of this.
If only real wars would take place in virtual Worlds would be a great sport to watch, human commanded units + ai. Loveee
@@tomich20 Great idea! War just with the E-sports, now we need decent governments to do that
@@tripledcoopgaming9287 lets overthrow the current governments with violent wars, so we can achieve this. Oh wait...
You put my thoughts in to words
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 I never said to overthrow current governments, I said that we need decent, openminded, governments, that's all
Just a question...
Why the F *oof* does the AI build base defense MOSTLY ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE WAR?!
The soviets seem to keep builiding defences to the right - why not swap the MCVs around and see if that makes a diffrence?
Yeah I noticed that too
Yea switch the Allies to the Right and Soviets to the left and see if that has any bearing on the outcome.
I was getting so annoyed at their less-than-stellar Tesla deployment xD
It how it programmed, it weird even in skirmish they would do that which is stupid
The allies did that too (building static defences on the wrong side that is). Problem was that the need to build power meant that soviets weren't building double war fac. When soviets have double war fac, they win.
I agree tesla coil was the single cause of soviets losing.
Tesla coils in the back, power plants in the front...
The AI does this in the PlayStation versions of red alert/retaliation too. It makes skirmish maps a bit boring as they usually clog up their base with units and defenses so they can't move. At least the pc version you can fix it with mods. Fun game though.
Nice reenactment of the battle of Winterfell
now create two neural networks that fight each other and watch them evolve
So this is how the machine wars start? Interesting
The code is open source. I hope something like this is done.
@@exenter2 Really this game is open source?
@@SJ23982398 I believe source for recently remastered edition was released although best bet would be to build any ai customization around OpenRA which is an open source re-implementation of the original 90's engine/game using original assets, as the mechanisms for OpenRA and modability are probably better documented.
i just dont like how the soviets building their static defence in back and their power in front
Battle 2:
Soviets built only one factory vs Allied 2 factories. Why wouldn't you build 5 an click tank until your finger goes numb?
Ai logic.. Need power for their useless defence and screwed themselves over by only placing a single war factory
You don't understand do you?
Tesla coils are not there to protect you.
*You* are there to protect Tesla Coils.
It's almost always decided by who can build the second war factory.
Noice
Kinda shame they don't go for Advance Tech. Wudda been interesting to see how things would change with Mammoths, MADs, Chronotanks and like thrown in among the rest. If there were some AI mods available, I'd love to see them pitted against eachother in this format.
It's kinda funny how the RA and TD computer opponents are so simple, relative to all the options available.
They dont have the space, you can clearly see they have a build order and they run out of room before they get to the radar dome.
Using a MAD tank in your own base?hmmm
Another critical factor is build time. Maybe with more space to put more war factories to cut down production time on the big guys
@@333Tonberry as someone who has played skirmish way too much, that won’t solve that problem, AI never builds air or tech center unless told to, trust me, and you can forget super weapons
that preventing clogging thing is very smart, i like it
I look forward to every video of this kind, that you make. Fantastic job!
This series is fantastic. I look forward to seeing much, much more!
I have no idea why I love this series so much. Thank you for putting together for us lol
This was awesome btw, thank you for bringing back all my fond c&c memories
I really enjoyed watching this for some strange reason!
nice work man ! i like your c&c red alert videos
Soviet was limited by its ai.ini (space between building parameter) so have less numbers of barracks and factory count and failed easily. u put both sides on open ground with larger building area, Soviet will surely win.
Came to say this ^
Yeah, they have the better units and base defenses to benefit from the free cost, but the limited space combined with prioritizing power plants for poorly placed tesla coils is pretty crippling.
There's also the Kennel... I wonder if the AI counts it as a production building, and therefore doesn't increase to 2 War Factories and 2 Barracks?
Yeah but unlimited ground would also mean more ALLIED factories.
Amazing content you have :D
I would love to understand what optimisation factors have been incorporated into the AI to lead its decision making, e.g. where it decides to place buildings, which units to build, etc.
Just when I thought Fight Club couldn't get any better, you came out with this. Mission Accomplished. 👌🏽
I suggest you try the same sequence of maps, only switching sides between the factions.
Two out of three times Soviet only builds one War Factory. This might have to do with the algorithm template for the AI. Both teams seem to place their structures in a similar way, with exception for unique structures. Chirality for this "base template" don't seem to mirror to compensate for each side. Both AI's just keep on building from the same semi-randomized order.
I I'm not sure, but starting on the left side might be an advantage for pure technical reasons?
Either way, great video!
i'd like to see it modded with full tech on both sides, a larger map, and some water spots for naval warfare. maybe throw in some randomized starting locations? soviets kept pushing to the right for some reason, which is weird because communism is a deep left idealogy. that's some meta shit.
Unfortunately you can't get too crazy with this because the game will start lagging uncontrollably.
I love this kind of video keep it up
Btw ... why is it so much fun watching two computers play cnc?! XD please NEVER stop making cncremaster videos!
I remember that I did stuff like this in garrys mod with different enemy types. I love it.
Please, if you continue making these, which I very much hope so, givbe both sides distinguishing colors. This time it was a bit hard for me as a colorblind person to keep the units apart.
lol dat gun turret on top of the ref in the last match is a true MVP, destroying the sovjet construction yard all alone!
Shame that it didn't survive the battle. Otherwise, whoever was operating that turret would be in for a medal after the war!
1 W / 2 L ... damn, these are hard to predict :)
make more of these!
This is so therapeutic. 👍🏻
Unless Soviet is able to build two War Factories like the Allies - the match is already done in favor to the Allies. Soviet units are heavier and less cost effective. With unlimited production Soviet would have beaten the Allies all times out of three. In theory thay is =)
Yeah if Soviets can get 2 war factories it will always be win to Soviets as the allies waste time making APC and jeeps and weak units that don't benefit in this scenario
Love these 👌
THIS IS SO ENTERTAINING!!!
how bout soviets vs. soviets or allies vs allies? larger area would be interesting
There you go lol ruclips.net/video/mzueU-Al8eY/видео.html
Cool video.
The allies at a disadvantage though.
Soviet build queue: heavy tank, tesla tank
Allied queue: APC, jeep, light tank, artillery, medium tank
If allies only build med tank they would probably do way better
So satisfying to watch Ai battles like this.
I liked the Soviets early strategy of flooding the front line with powerplants to sponge alot of enemy fire, giving them an edge, but the allies really spied that straight off
It would be really interesting to know what happens if you place soviet on the left side an allies on the right
Big open map, Soviets. Smaller map, Allies.
soviet lost because of tesla coils, it needs more space for powerplants which slowed it's production on tesla tanks.
Also the interesting tendency of the Soviet AI to place most of its coils against the back edge of the map, away from the enemy until it's too late.
why so much artillery from the Allies? Coulda just kept pumping medium tanks and been better off, at least they can take a couple hits before blowing up
When the Allies use free units to defeat the Soviets: "I used the Communism to destroy the Communism."
You still think stuff in communism are actually free...
The fact the 2nd battle ends in time with the music is so satisfying.
The AI? Not so much. Still extremely derpy.
Part of me feels like playing Red Alert right now... the other part of me says no, as I finished it like 10 times already :D
This is a pretty cool idea. Kind of reminds me of bullet chess.
1 Army vs army on a map with a lot of brdiges would be cool to see how they'd adapt if the bridge got destroyed.
2 Army vs army with water involved first to see if the AI at all makes use of it.
Spoiler: they don't ;(
@@StuGames Awww shame. Then 3. Suggestion. How about a 1v1v1? 3 AI?
2v2 maps. Does 2Ally, 2Soviet, or 1 of each win vs the other combos?
Looks like Allies place structures more efficiently so they always end up with 2 war factories which is decisive.. or it has gotta do with faction specific buillding queue
Here both allied and soviets take the same time to build their initial tanks, which means the allies lose their advantage. C&C is speed (allies) vs power (sovs).
Gotta love the ai building it's defensive wall in the back.
Interesting how much seems to come down to target priority, the allies lost quickly when they didn't target the tesla tanks which were then free to take out the infantry. When they effectively targeted the tesla tanks they seemed to make steady progress into the soviet base. Of course, bad choices in buildings had an impact too - the soviets apparently preferring to build more power even when their last war factory was destroyed.
Virou o jogo... Que emocionante!!!
In games, as in TV and films: don't ever bet on the red team. Ever.
Thats intense, i play everyday, i love C and C. Fingers must be sore after that, keyboards broken.
Allied, well AI logic: build 9 war factories exactly in the same spot where they get destroyed. Well, Soviet was doomed after construction yard was destroyed, or a minute before. Nice video.
Pink and cyan on a white field... I see what you did there.
Anyone else notice that any scenario where a tesla tank and ANY other type of unit was near the allies they went after the other unit? I think that's what cost them the first battle. Watching multiple tesla tanks survive longer than any other unit knowing they have such weak armor was frustrating.
These are cool, maybe try one with infantry only :)
Nice jazz jackrabbit profile pic.
The Allied Turret in game 3 is da real MVP
how about an all naval battle? either with an mcv on a tiny strip of land with everything is free, or an epic prebuilt naval battle?
7:00 Hero turret won the game...
it seems to me that the allies would win more than soviets by default on small scale area's like these. their script seems to tell them to built that second war factory early on. if the map is clogged by units or other buildings, the soviets would be too late with building that second factory and will always lag behind in vehicle production.
Reminds me of the C&C Generals Menu Screens.
"...Prevents clogging" Don't you mean Sovjet style traffic jams? :p
More pls 😍
Soviet AI: One must always keep back protected best!
can you repeat that on a bigger map with the super aggressive AI mod ? that build radar and tech center faster and builds navy too ?
large maps will make the game lag a lot unfortunately
You've seen it here peeps. This video undeniably PROVES that ALLIES are OP!
Try a basketball bracket styled map. 8 AI with narrow pathways linking the first pairs. The AI will hopefully fight the closest opponent first. Then there will be a path that converges to the second area where the victors will fight it out in. They will need to defeat the very close enemy before moving on. The last one standing wins.
Unfortunately you can't do large maps because it will lag too much with 8 players pumping out free units
@@StuGames is there a population cap mod? Maybe that could work?
Dang.
I still think the Soviet AI is bugged. They seem to stick to about 5 units tops, while the Allies don’t and they build the full suite
It looks like the Soviets have a difficult time massing up their army, but if they can hit critical mass, they can roll the Allies back and crush them. Also, it was interesting to see that the Soviets built a kennel in the last battle, but then never made any dogs. I think the Allies will tend to win knife-point engagements, while the Soviets have the edge in more openly spaced battles where they have time to mass up their superior vehicles.
These small maps cripple the soviets because they don't have the room to expand so are always low power and are then handicapped further because they are always low power so can't place their end war factory and their main defences don't work while having longer build times.
I notice something very peculiar. Why does the soviet AI build flame towers and tesla coils on the far edge back of the base, rather than at the front? The allies AI at least spreads out their defences.
What is the purpose of the building with the four Chimneys? They built a ton of them but no units come out.
That is the advanced power plant
How do you do AI only battles anyway?
Damned Soviet AI always building a doghouse and never sending dogs, and almost never getting that 2nd war factory built
Oiled bitter cakes, unlock! Games are programmed to keep yer brother buisy yet not Annoyed beyond the triggering point.... and grabs the engagement towards gameplay, games are mindset activation pornography....
7:19 The bottommost soviet tank dancing :D
Why do the soviet buildings always get simultaneously damaged? Like 3:35?
that's when you lost power.
Buildings gradually lose health (except power plants) when there isn’t enough power for them all. But it’s so slow and would take hours for a base to actually be destroyed that way so you don’t usually notice it. The setting that makes health bars appear when things are damaged makes it a lot more noticeable though.
Hey Wil this game run on a
N4020 Celeron
UHD 600
4gb Ram
1tb hhd
Win10 64
probably not
I think we need best of 3 on the same map, or best of 5.
Surely a larger map, rather than a smaller one, would have been the true decider?
Why would AI build fortifications on a wrong side of the base?
Die KI scheint ja nicht zu lernen, daß man keinen Ernter mehr braucht. Oh Mann ✌Das Format finde ich ganz unterhaltsam.
Multiplayer ohne Kosten wäre ja auch mal interessant. Da würde man mal sehen, wer die besten Fähigkeiten hat.
Die KI ist leider unglaublich dumm. Im multiplayer gewinnt wahrscheinlich, wer zuerst den gegnerischen Construction Yard kaputt bekommt.
I wish this game had a really sophisticated AI.
New Salty Bets mode
The winner is always team which build more tank factories
Soviet making a stupid error in the 2 last games by preventing itself from building a second warfactory which results in an instant loss
Seems like ai loves to build defences to the right
Like measures near unbuildable sides..
the only regret I have with this one is that I cant hear much of the music anymore due to all the firing and lightnings going on haha
I would expect Soviets to be strong in this mode since they use stronger units in exchange of being more costly but if everything is free and instant that nullifies that downside
Soviet would win all the rounds with just more build space like in the first round, they often ran out of space for power and Warfactory so they were low power.
i feel the defenses in the rear skew the results
Noob here, how does the AI build out of two war factories / barracks at the same time? I can’t do that as a player.
they have their own building rules
@@StuGames Ah, thanks man!
So....why does the Soviet AI not build as many production buildings? Is it because of the Kennel, which makes it calculate that it has built enough? Is it because it's more focussed on defensive structures?
They build more power plants to power up all of those (useless) Tesla Coils!
This is nice indeed shame there no mod that add nod and gdi in
Lol look how the AI groups it's structural defense.
In Soviet Russia, power plants are the best frontal defense!
Why does neither side build a tech center?