Disfellowshipping Update #2 Jehovah Witnesses - OUTRAGE

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @janmarie63
    @janmarie63 7 месяцев назад +6

    I’ve been left the Org for over 36 years now - praise God - after a Damascus Road experience with Jesus. It’s shocking how they describe apostates as ‘promoting wrongdoing’. I am certainly known as an apostate so I guess telling people they can have a relationship with Jesus (and that it’s not just for the 144,000) must be ‘promoting wrong doing’. They surely will have much to answer for at the Judgment Seat of Christ.

  • @Des7iny7
    @Des7iny7 7 месяцев назад +25

    What happens when that minor does not repent….is not sorry…WHAT THEN..? Same old disfellowshipping and alone on the streets.

    • @robertgrey6101
      @robertgrey6101 7 месяцев назад +5

      @Des
      Especially if the child has ADHD.
      This health problem seems to be .more prevalent than is considered.
      This is where these clowns ftom the Governing Body down through the chain of command to Elders and the congregation's committee must be seen as culpable and sadly lacking in understanding of mental health issues and other health problems in society.
      Because these clowns are not trained medically or trained to diagnose any other mental health issues, they will throw these unfortunate youth to the wolves.
      These youth who, no doubt, were pressured to be baptised at a very young age to save themselves at Armageddon which is going to hit right now.
      Armageddon has been coming for the past 7 decades I can remember.
      This year my needle hits 78. Born into, raised up, walked away in my late 20s.
      About 50 years or so Armageddon has been preached as right in our lap.
      I'm glad to see social media used as the required tool to expose these wolves in sheep's clothing who are akin to Ali Baba and his multitude of thieves.

  • @adamantiumbullet9215
    @adamantiumbullet9215 7 месяцев назад +7

    Watchtower's entire religion:
    "If you have to be persuaded, reminded, pressured, lied to, incentivized, coerced, bullied, socially shamed, guilt-tripped, threatened, punished and criminalized [disfellowshipping]... if all of this is considered necessary to gain your compliance, you can be absolutely certain that what is being promoted is not in your best interest." - Ian Watson

  • @michelejashinsky8409
    @michelejashinsky8409 Месяц назад +3

    They did say in one of the talks after or during the annual meeting Jeffery Winder said they r not INSPIRED NOR INFALLIBLE and they don’t need to APOLOGIZE I woke up‼️

  • @missfahrenheit411
    @missfahrenheit411 7 месяцев назад +5

    This is so disgusting to me now. I can’t believe I fell for it for over 30 years. It makes me want to vomit.

  • @benjaminwigley4132
    @benjaminwigley4132 7 месяцев назад +6

    talk about eating crow. I was re-instated and never ever went back... so much for HOLY SPIRIT guiding them to do so...

  • @96t5wagon
    @96t5wagon 7 месяцев назад +3

    Great video! The point you made in regards to the announcement sounding like it was prepped by a lawyer is spot on. The organization lost its case in Norway in the 4th of March 2024, just weeks ago and then they come out with this announcement dealing directly with what the case they lost dealt with.
    They give JW’s something to be excited about so that they don’t really focus on the big issue which was the doctrinal df policy change. Often times the last thing you hear is the first thing you remember.
    If you recall last years convention program, they had the drama with the African family and how if you watch the video, even using the subtitles along with the provided audio, you’ll notice that it’s pointed out how the brother had a “clean shaven face” or wore a tie, as is stated. But here we are less than a year later and look at these changes, changes that make the organization not seem so cult like in the mind of the public especially in light of the ruling in Spain and Norway. But sadly, JW’s don’t allow themselves to think beyond appearances and what 9 guys in upstate New York allow them to focus on.

  • @cultytalk
    @cultytalk 7 месяцев назад +15

    You have to repent for NOT wanting to be a JW anymore too or for just questioning their doctrine or leaders because they Disfellowship those people too and label them "Apostates"!! All 3 of these are labeled as "sins"!! Outrageous.

    • @WatchStayAwake
      @WatchStayAwake  7 месяцев назад +4

      Totally outrageous!!

    • @williampeters6004
      @williampeters6004 7 месяцев назад +2

      I just happened to be stumbling onto this video. Brings back memories. 35 years ago for me. The pomposity of the majority of them is what's mind-boggling. I don't even remember this guy Sanders.

    • @williampeters6004
      @williampeters6004 7 месяцев назад +4

      I totally agree with the young lady that's narrating

    • @williampeters6004
      @williampeters6004 7 месяцев назад +4

      I said 35 years and actually it's 44 years ago for me. I don't miss the pomposity of all of them at all

    • @marcalampi5036
      @marcalampi5036 7 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you so very much for your channel. I've never ever heard anyone put into words so exactly as it really is like you have. You must have God's Holy Spirit. God Bless you Greatly forever!​@@WatchStayAwake

  • @Scott-iu2jx
    @Scott-iu2jx 7 месяцев назад +8

    They say Apostates are those that have lost their faith...
    Q. Faith in whom?
    The dictionary states an Apostate is someone who speaks against God.
    Not leaving a man made Organization because of their hypocracy.

    • @adamantiumbullet9215
      @adamantiumbullet9215 7 месяцев назад +2

      Nope. Speaking against god isn't involved.
      *apostate*
      1. a person who renounces a religious or political belief or principle.
      1. adjective: abandoning a religious or political belief or principle.
      In other words, WT is full of apostates- people that left their religion to BECOME a JW. In that case, WT loves apostates. But, to leave WT makes one a "mentally diseased" person who's abandoned god/god's organization.

  • @michaelmaston4702
    @michaelmaston4702 7 месяцев назад +4

    With this change...they stand a good chance of getting cursed out by those who suffered shunning and disfellowshipping.

  • @leetrippii1830
    @leetrippii1830 7 месяцев назад +4

    He really think that somebody who is disfellowshipped may not remember. Anybody would remember the day their family and friends stopped talking to them

  • @Antlil2023
    @Antlil2023 7 месяцев назад +8

    John 8: 1-11 Jesus never shunned this woman who committed adultery . Oh but they conveniently took those verses out in their bible translation. Where I do believe there should be consequences for our actions shunning is not a loving solution unless it’s a pervert!! You put them in jail call police report!! Thank you for sharing your video ❤

  • @adamantiumbullet9215
    @adamantiumbullet9215 7 месяцев назад +5

    The Memorial. On the WRONG date. Again!

  • @williampeters6004
    @williampeters6004 7 месяцев назад +6

    Holier than thou. Everybody's beneath them

  • @neutralobservation9418
    @neutralobservation9418 7 месяцев назад +11

    What about the Prodigal Son?
    It is impossible for three mem to establish somebody's "heart condition".

    • @Des7iny7
      @Des7iny7 7 месяцев назад +5

      If you collapsed in front of everyone in the cong begging..they still wouldn’t see your heart condition and be the brass necked, evil slaves they always have been. You’ll see.

  • @michaelmaston4702
    @michaelmaston4702 7 месяцев назад +8

    And what about those who have committed suicide because of these judgements? How do they make it right for them and their families?

    • @adamantiumbullet9215
      @adamantiumbullet9215 7 месяцев назад

      The standard JW answer: "Leave it in Jehovah's hands."

    • @rudeq86
      @rudeq86 7 месяцев назад

      @@adamantiumbullet9215 jeboobah will have a lot of elder errors to correct, poor guy

    • @ucanliv4ever
      @ucanliv4ever 3 месяца назад

      Michael Maston, please stop making stupid comments or I will kill my self because I can't take responsibility for my victimhood culture/mentality

  • @Scott48-w9i
    @Scott48-w9i 7 месяцев назад +7

    We should only shun a religious conversation

  • @SanDiegoPIMO
    @SanDiegoPIMO 7 месяцев назад +8

    28:00 I think the only clarification was when you lost your charity status in Norway. That ended up being your new light to loosen things up a little.

  • @anthonywilks5695
    @anthonywilks5695 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is really a good program. You are not lying at all. It's not loving at all. I'm sharing this video with a friend. Thank you so much. I really appreciate this video. It is so informative and educational as well.

  • @michaelmaston4702
    @michaelmaston4702 7 месяцев назад +4

    Who the HELL are THEY to judge?! Let he who is perfect cast the first stone...and NONE of those "men" are perfect! Judgement is reserved for Jehovah himself...not man.

    • @adamantiumbullet9215
      @adamantiumbullet9215 7 месяцев назад +1

      "Neither inspired nor infallible". But, THEY SURE DO ACT LIKE THEY ARE!

  • @planeclassic7129
    @planeclassic7129 7 месяцев назад +12

    So this is the one true religion? The only ones who alone “channels” God? And they’re just now understanding the scriptures. Yes. Watchtower is wicked evil and demonic.

  • @youllplotzfilms5917
    @youllplotzfilms5917 7 месяцев назад +6

    What about wearing a dress visiting Bethel and wearing Slacks at Kingdom Hall are their 2 different Gods to worship 😮

  • @markweatherill
    @markweatherill 7 месяцев назад +3

    elders may be quite happy exercising their God given and Holy Spirit appointed roles as judge, jury and executioner, thank you very much. they may not relish the idea of running after those they've lovingly kicked out, begging them to return to Jehovah's loving arms. no wonder they were pushing the idea of younger ones becoming elders, they'll need some replacements soon.

  • @andrewbalenda8532
    @andrewbalenda8532 7 месяцев назад +3

    Beloveth Sister. In one of their watch towers they say and admit that they are Not inspired and also Not infallible!

  • @halinakozlowska2672
    @halinakozlowska2672 7 месяцев назад +2

    Miners: you could explain with the scriptures:: " you shouldn't give remarks to your slave in front of you "

  • @planeclassic7129
    @planeclassic7129 7 месяцев назад +9

    March 24 is not Nisan 14.

  • @michaelmaston4702
    @michaelmaston4702 7 месяцев назад +3

    I needed a swig of mouthwash just to get rid of the puke taste in my mouth.

    • @jamesfloyd1864
      @jamesfloyd1864 7 месяцев назад

      Just before I read your comment I was saying to myself, that makes me sick. I con't watch any more.

  • @jerryjohanan1940
    @jerryjohanan1940 7 месяцев назад +4

    New to your channel and you are 100%

  • @Thunderwing69
    @Thunderwing69 4 месяца назад +2

    When someone is disfellowshipped from the JWorg, who is making that determination? Is the decision made by a group of ordinary men, or not? Are imperfect, mistake making humans (Elders) judging others? Why isn't the rest of the congregation, able to weigh in on the decision to expel someone?

  • @rudeq86
    @rudeq86 7 месяцев назад +3

    The disfellowshipping/shunning/social bullying should be made illegal, people should start lawsuits against the organization in different countries (already happening). Then again it will only feed their followers/victims into believing that the world is against them... They destroyed so many lives and yet they get away with it although the world is against them...

    • @itaintobeezy
      @itaintobeezy 7 месяцев назад

      No. Freedom of association

  • @Lisapinson
    @Lisapinson 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thankyou ive subscribed . I have watched alot of ex jws and subscribed to a lot probably way too many to try keep up with but i loved your video and the way you present it so thank you . See you in next video

  • @IvanCastillo-gb9vp
    @IvanCastillo-gb9vp 7 месяцев назад +2

    What about their Sins that they have committed themselves, because "All have Sinned and fall short of the Glory of God". What so special about them, compared to the rest of the World?

  • @Lisapinson
    @Lisapinson 7 месяцев назад +2

    21:31 this p#$%me off because you can say "hi" . Yea 22:27 and this I
    Can totally agree with you. It's disgusting like it's nothing wtf.

  • @CadillacBunner
    @CadillacBunner 7 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent video!

  • @Scott-iu2jx
    @Scott-iu2jx 7 месяцев назад +4

    What hapoens when you have no idea you where disfellowshipped.?
    When you ask What you have been disfellowshipped for? They do not tell you.
    The elders post on the congregation board a regrouping of congregation members so that they dont have cliches 😂😂😂 but again your name is not on there. Why?
    So where is their loving arrangement ? 😂😂
    It doesn't exist. So in other words you are made to look bad. You just walk away as you do not have to take that type of treatment.

  • @ericbulman1752
    @ericbulman1752 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nowhere in the Bible does it say disfellowshipping is a loving provision from God.

  • @sixofsix
    @sixofsix 7 месяцев назад +3

    If the Elders can read your "heart" (which only pumps blood thoughout the body btw), why do they need to even sit down with a wrongdoer in the first place? If they have the ability to read minds essentially, then they wouldn't need a detailed layout from the wrongdoer about his/her wrongdoing, they should already know right?

    • @adamantiumbullet9215
      @adamantiumbullet9215 7 месяцев назад +2

      If Elders can read hearts, why pray for holy spirit, then claim whatever decision is made is by the holy spirit's direction?
      And, if holy spirit actually made the decision, why does WT allow the DF person to *appeal* the decision?

  • @oswynjames8308
    @oswynjames8308 4 месяца назад +1

    All I will say is this: Acts 17:31
    King James Bible
    Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. We are not to judge for we all have sinned.

  • @childofyah6776
    @childofyah6776 7 месяцев назад +1

    I remember thinking apostates were these evil people too when I was little lol

  • @graciehart1001
    @graciehart1001 7 месяцев назад +2

    Norwegian 🇳🇴 tie WT trying to get their millions 💰 in grants back.

  • @janespitfire9884
    @janespitfire9884 7 месяцев назад +4

    This JW disfellowshipping did not start till 1952 and now stopping shunning cause against human rights. also many EX JW committed suicide due to this policy

  • @estherjuan5499
    @estherjuan5499 7 месяцев назад +4

    Red flag! JW claimed they are the only religion approved by God. Please read John 3:16 It says "every one"

  • @gmandofgod
    @gmandofgod 7 месяцев назад +2

    This text they are misinterpreting about disfellowshipped. The text is clearly stating not to allow that person to fellowship in the congregation, not to stop talking to them outside of the church. Christians are supposed to lovingly correct their error or sin not turn their backs on them. Lastly, people are only to be disfellowshipped for egregious heresy or sin (like sexually abusing children).

  • @johndefalque5061
    @johndefalque5061 2 месяца назад +2

    It's another way of saying fluff off forever, you're immoral! I hate smokers, not their personalities but the sin, especially if it has the power to piss me off and make me sick. We should be segregated at work and in apts by non, mixed and exclusively smoking.

  • @dianeexley1709
    @dianeexley1709 7 месяцев назад +3

    Colonel Sanderson makes me sick to my stomach. Standing there sporting a full beard and talking like he's addressing children! So demeaning! Woe to you scribes and pharisees! Hypocrites!!

  • @Thunderwing69
    @Thunderwing69 4 месяца назад +2

    Is disfellowshipping, along similar lines, as excommunication from the Catholic Church?

  • @JorgeSanchez-sd2qx
    @JorgeSanchez-sd2qx 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you for your video
    It's sooo true

  • @Lisapinson
    @Lisapinson 7 месяцев назад +2

    16:34 yip only a showy display so they look like they changing to get funding back .

  • @houstoneuler
    @houstoneuler 7 месяцев назад +2

    Does the longer video mention Matthew 18:15-17 which this policy seems to be doing a complete end-run around?

  • @triciaworld
    @triciaworld 7 месяцев назад +2

    Yes it’s all legal

  • @andrewbalenda8532
    @andrewbalenda8532 7 месяцев назад +2

    Talking about the so called governing body.

  • @triciaworld
    @triciaworld 7 месяцев назад +1

    They don’t give you repeated chances

  • @triciaworld
    @triciaworld 7 месяцев назад +1

    Total lies

  • @FragenUndGlauben
    @FragenUndGlauben 7 месяцев назад +1

    Is the original video still viewable anywhere?

  • @ericbulman1752
    @ericbulman1752 5 месяцев назад +2

    2 john 9-11 is not speaking apostates . 2 john 9 Anyone who goes to far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ,does not have God ; the one who abides in the teaching , he has both the father and the son .
    Its speaking about those who go to far and do not abide in the teaching of Christ.
    They go to far and do not abide in the teaching of Christ.

  • @kevinwarren1576
    @kevinwarren1576 7 месяцев назад +4

    Hmmm., here’s a pertinent question, why in the world would anyone ever want to be a j-dub ? I’ve watched this video and several other X-j-dub videos and it’s such a miserable existence ! I think if you join this cult, you’re insane.

    • @rudeq86
      @rudeq86 7 месяцев назад +2

      most people are born in, some that are not born in are usually in a difficult phase in their lifes(somebody dearly died, ...) and JW's know how to take advantage of this pain. But yes some people that join are also insane, I've seen that too...

    • @kevinwarren1576
      @kevinwarren1576 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@rudeq86 Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @Darrinnewlife
    @Darrinnewlife 3 месяца назад +1

    He says Jehovah wants you to come back home but they continue to disfellowship ones. There sin is nothing to compare to King Manasahs as in the video that the brother is telling the prodigal son casey i think that was his name in the video but they do not look at how Manasah done on a grand scale to Offend Jehovah, so have any of us done that bad so that it requires we are to be disfellowshiped for months or years how long was it that Manasah was put back as King i bet it wasn't long at all..

  • @justdont2019
    @justdont2019 7 месяцев назад +3

    JW’s destroyed my family 30 years ago. Are they repentant for doing that?

    • @alexshatner3907
      @alexshatner3907 7 месяцев назад

      You would have to resurrect the dead to ask them

  • @Darrinnewlife
    @Darrinnewlife 3 месяца назад +1

    How do they know if there not talking to an ex JW in the world thats an apostate how could they even tell if you dont tell them your an ex JW .

  • @michelejashinsky8409
    @michelejashinsky8409 Месяц назад +1

    U seem really young by ur voice. I’m thinking ur really wise for ur age. 💙💜❤️

  • @Darrinnewlife
    @Darrinnewlife 3 месяца назад +1

    What about the bad man on the steak with Jesus what kind of person was he was he an apostate did he follow Jesus did he do any preaching or anything to show he was a follower of jesus he was probably bad all his life but what did Jesus say to him, he said ( Surley i tell you today you will be with me in paradise not waiting 6 months to a year or more to come back and get reinstated . What about King Manasah He did on a grand scale to affend Jehovah but how long was it before Jehovah put him back being King im sure it was not years or months . Look at David he murder but Jehovah for gave him when he confessed his sin and he stayed King so there are many examples to show just how mercyful Jehovah and Jesus are.

  • @ericbulman1752
    @ericbulman1752 5 месяцев назад +1

    1 Corinthians 5:13 does not say unrepentant wrong doer .

  • @isaiah30v8
    @isaiah30v8 7 месяцев назад

    Judgement day:
    .
    2 Thessalonians 2:11
    So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing THE LIE
    .
    Millions Now Living Will Never Die
    .
    You positively will not die
    .
    2 Thessalonians 2:9
    But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan
    .
    .
    Now keep reading in 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2:
    .
    2 Thessalonians 2:12
    IN ORDER THAT THEY ALL MAY BE JUDGED because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
    .
    .
    Judgement day is here!
    .
    .

    • @sheilarichards122
      @sheilarichards122 5 месяцев назад

      God bound up ALL men in sin..in order to have mercy on all. No flesh shall boast...God alone shall be exalted on that day.

    • @isaiah30v8
      @isaiah30v8 5 месяцев назад

      @@sheilarichards122 --- While Judging Jehovah is now showing mercy on whoever he chooses:
      .
      Romans 9:18
      So, then, upon whom he wishes he has mercy, but whom he wishes he lets become obstinate.
      .
      Keep reading in Romans Chapter 9:
      .
      Romans 9:25-26
      It is as he says also in Ho·se´a: “Those not my people I will call ‘my people,’ and her who was not beloved ‘beloved’; 26 and in the place where it was said to them, ‘YOU are not my people,’ there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’”
      .
      [Name of person] is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses ---->> ‘YOU are not my people,’
      .
      Like I said above; Judgement day is here!
      .
      Have you been shown mercy?
      .
      .
      Romans 9:15
      For he says to Moses: “I will have mercy upon whomever I do have mercy, and I will show compassion to whomever I do show compassion.”
      .
      .

  • @leetrippii1830
    @leetrippii1830 6 месяцев назад

    I love your videos

  • @geraldsutton9981
    @geraldsutton9981 5 месяцев назад

    WE ARE all sinful men&women.....
    Are you without sin...????
    If you are then I guess you can throw the first stone.......(the words Jesus)
    And yes it WAS Satan that tempts people, of ALL religions.
    And yes some fail to fight Satan and succumb to his temptations.....
    But that is NO reason to stop worshipping Jehovah God.....or meet with others that have come to believe that Jehovah IS GOD....!!!!
    This could be a warning to others.........time to take out the trash (expel sinners) but leave the righteous ones.......????
    Time to clean up your act.......????
    The Great day of Jehovah is near.....!!!!
    Are you ready for it....????

  • @adamantiumbullet9215
    @adamantiumbullet9215 7 месяцев назад +6

    This is what WT said about disfellowshipping five years before it began its own disfellowshipping practice:
    "This is "canon 'law" which the Roman Catholic Hierarchy seeks to *enforce on the pretext that it is God's law.* The authority for excommunication, they claim, is based on the teachings of Christ and the apostles, as found in the following scriptures: Matthew 18: 15-19; 1 Corinthians 5:3-5; 16:22; Galatians 1:8,9; 1 Timothy 1:20; Titus 3:10. But, the Hierarchy's excommunication, as a *punishment* and "medicinal" remedy (Catholic Encyclopedia), *finds no support in the scriptures.* In fact, it is altogether foreign to Bible teachings. - Hebrews 10:26-31.
    Where did this practice originate? The Encyclopedia Britannica says that papal excommunication is not without *pagan influence,* "and its variations cannot be adequately explained unless account be taken of several *non-Christian* analogues of excommunication... the *weapon of excommunication* became the instrument by which the clergy attained a combination of *ecclesiastical power* and secular tyranny that finds no parallel in history." Awake January 6, 1947 p.27
    So, according to Watchtower, disfellowshipping is not supported in the Bible, is pagan, and is used solely as a weapon to keep religious leaders in power. And, the list of Bible verses WT says are only a "pretext" to justify this unscriptural practice? THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT VERSES WT NOW USES TO JUSTIFY THE PRACTICE.

  • @jmark7390
    @jmark7390 4 месяца назад

    What language are you speaking?

  • @SayinXJW
    @SayinXJW 7 месяцев назад +1

    Yo learn more about people with serious mental health issues. And those who are seeking help creating a healthy environment to recover. That better be next. BS

  • @leetrippii1830
    @leetrippii1830 6 месяцев назад

    John was talking about antichrist

  • @alexshatner3907
    @alexshatner3907 7 месяцев назад

    A mini skirt or a Dress?

  • @triciaworld
    @triciaworld 7 месяцев назад +1

    You will be hopeless

  • @heinerschmith8821
    @heinerschmith8821 6 месяцев назад

    Aren't you ashamed to write such lies about Jehovah's people? The Bible calls Satan the father of lies.
    ¿No te da vergüenza escribir semejantes mentiras contra el pueblo de Jehová? La Biblia llama a Satanás el padre de la mentira.

    • @Thunderwing69
      @Thunderwing69 4 месяца назад

      Could you please outline which is a lie in this video? Thanks

  • @peterzinya1
    @peterzinya1 7 месяцев назад +5

    jehova witness. youve got to be joking.

    • @alexshatner3907
      @alexshatner3907 7 месяцев назад +1

      Don't forget April fools day is around the corner