He’s such an underrated character. Going from what could be a comic relief to a layered character traumatized from the real world and grow mentally stronger and wiser from this. I don’t know what it is but is fantastic writing.
From the "Fool of a Took" that foolishly threw a rock in Moria, thus alerting the goblins and Durin's Bane of the Fellowship's presence, into a Guard of the Citadel, one of the commanders of the Shire's rebellion against Sharkey and eventual Thain of the Shire. Pippin was clearly one of the characters that went through the most character development in "The Lord of the Rings".
Peregrin Took was a halfling with more than his share of flaws, but he learned that responsibility is power and to take responsibility for the consequences of his actions, and that everything is a choice. Thankfully Pippin's choices played a role in achieving victory in the War of the Ring, and the end of the Dark Lord, the Fellowship was lucky to count him amongst their number.
I really enjoyed them in the films, but think Merry and Pippin were much more badass in the books. And reading that they were buried beside Elessar was a tearjerker moment.
I always get a kick out of imagining an older Pippen swaggering about at Court in Minas Tirith in full armor with Prince Faramir shortly after Second Breakfast. Or an older Merry reunited with Lady Eowyn and King Eomer.
Fool of a took, throwed himself next time on a troll and saved his friend! Gandalf was really proud! I think Pippin deserves far more respect for he is really one of those characters that had that character arc, both in movies and in the books Yoystan, another great video!
Peregrine was one of those who did deeds, intended or not, saved Middle Earth. His misadventure with the palantir of Orthanc, along with Aragorn's intentional use of same, kept the Eye of Sauron away from the true threat.
Pippin is a character we all can relate to. He’s young and quite foolish and immature, but he learned from the hardships he went through . He became an adult
What a great summary of the life Peregrine Took. Everything must start somewhere and he started a bit earlier in life, for his kind, but he made all Hobbits proud and many of his deeds were greater than those of whom one would expect more. Love these kinds of videos. Thanks.
Through Pippin's tale, we may also learn that our mistakes are not what define us throughout our lifetime, but rather the sum of all our deeds, much like milestones upon our paths we tread.
I seem to remember reading Gandalf actually respecting and lauding Pippin's decision to swear fealty to Denethor as a worthy and honorable thing to do. I don't remember him being annoyed by that at all. Gandalf just had a mild fear of Pippin's mouth control and didn't want him to wag his tongue overmuch about events because Denethor was razor sharp and could "perceive" things others could not. Of course that didn't matter much as Denethor already knew or had guessed the bulk of their business.
I actually just got to that part in the book (re-reading them for the first time in many years), and you are correct. I think Gandalf was taken aback a bit by Denathor's insight, though this was before he knew he possessed and had been using a Palantir. Denathor is also a far more sympathetic character in the books than the films.
Pippin and Merry are my wife's favorite part of the tale...she was sore and cross when the movies left out the scouring. "Well then, what is the point of telling a tale...if you don't tell the ending of it?"
I'd love to see a character sheet for Pippin by the end of tLotR, dude definitely levelled up many times throughout the story, maybe even more than Gandalf.
I'm going to have to reread the part of "The Fellowship of the Ring" where Pippin drops the rock down the well, but I seem to remember it happening in a guard station long before the Fellowship was attacked in Morzarbul. I suppose he could still be to blame if his action perhaps caused a scout to be sent to investigate and that's how they were discovered, but that's not entirely clear. That one falling stone may not have had anything to do with the Fellowship being discovered in Moria. It certainly doesn't happen in the book like it did in the movie where Pippin was very clearly to blame for their being attacked! As I said, I'm going to have to reread that part, but I think Pippin maybe doesn't quite deserve all the crap he gets over that attack. Either way, if not for that attack Gandalf the Gray would never have become Gandalf the White, and that may have doomed them all.
I can't explain how much I love the Hobbits. Our main four from LOTR plus Bilbo are some of the best characters ever written. They just pull at my heartstrings and ugh I just love them okay! It makes sense why Gandalf and Aragorn had such a soft spot for the race and protected the Shire.
Pippin and Merry were laid to rest next to Aragorn II Elessar as the only other members of the Fellowship to remain in Middle-earth. Boromir would would pass out into the Bay of Belfalas in the boat of Lothlorian and "whither then I cannot say." Frodo went to the Undying Lands with Gandalf et al. Later, Legolas would take Gimli into the West and finally, Sam would depart Middle-earth by the Straight Road.
Yes, Joysten, I too love Pippin that “fool of a Took” who ends up like his great Hobbit brethren who accomplish unexpected greatness. This was a lovely episode and thanks for your faithfulness to our beloved tale and its heritage. I’m an old man and an avid reader of Tolkien and will be ever grateful to my grandson for leading me to your channel. Grace & peace. Robbie
"I think you have strength, of a different kind. And one day your father will see it." Man I can't think of another who went thru more of a character change than pip, both book and movie. He was a rich kid who probably lived an easy life and ended up saving the world, if u fervently believe the killing Gandalf theory. Hes the friend everyone wants but u shake your head at more than a dozen times in a single day ^_^ Also by hobbit standards I should b a full blown adult by now......I would not make a good adult hobbit 😭😅🤣😂
Excellent work Mellon! Keep it up. Pippin was one of the bravest beings of the 3rd age...toe to toe with Saur-Saur...now that's a Hell of a Took! ECTHELION!
Can't wait for the what-if video for what if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
Great video. I am loving this series! At twenty-eight, Pippin's age would be about the equivalent to a fifteen or sixteen-year-old human. This explains much of his initial immaturity. Merry was thirty-six, and Samwise thirty-eight; still quite young by Hobbit standards, but significantly older than Pippin. Frodo, by comparison, was fifty at the start of their quest. All four grow exponentially as characters over the course of the story, though I would argue Pippin most of all, owing at least in part to his age and how events forced him to "grow up" before he'd fully matured.
Sam is my favorite character, but Pippin shows the most character growth. Imagine how surprised Sharkey's men must have been when knights of Rohan and Gondor show up to confront them!
Love Pippin, currently on my first read-through of the French translation of Pippin, and dear lord did I forget how much I love that 'Fool of a Took'! He's hilarious and likely my fourth-favourite character of the whole Fellowship right behind Merry, Aragorn and Sam. Honestly, I can't wait to get more LOTRO coins so as to make a character inspired by Pippin in there.
Originally, when I first watch the Movies, Pippin was my favorite character, *(keep in mind I haven't read any of the books outside of The Hobbit)* I still love his character *soon* 7 years later, but I related to him...Now *as my most recent read and watch* it's a combination of Eowyn of Pippin!!! Man Mellon Thanks, so much for Pippin's ECH, Until Whatever happened in the South and East in Arda *Hm, Interesting* Marion Baggins Out!!!
Favorite scene in movie and book is when the two young hobbits are sitting at the gate of Isenguard drinking and smoking when the rest of the fellowship shows up.
I highly enjoyed this video!! It reminded me of my high school friend who was a clown and then patriotically enlisted in The Marines. Sadly, he sacrificed himself saving his platoon in Iraq.
@@MenoftheWest Thank you very much. I appreciate what you said. Funny thing was: when we met in high school, we found out that we were born one hour apart AND in the same hospital too!!!
I relate to Pippin a lot, he’s immature, young, and curious, quite similar to me, I do wish I can live up to responsibility and leadership, just as he did in, both books and movies
Wait so if pippin was 29 when at Gondor, when we first meet him before Bilbos party he’s actually 12??? As obviously there was that 17 year gap when Gandalf was away
@@dustwyrm Oh wow! So I guess that really shows us why he's so troublesome and immature and why Gandalf can be so hard on him, he's practically a kid! aha
@@tomthecookieking167 Yep, though I want to clarify I meant he was about seven at the time of the party. At the time of the quest he's probably the equivalent of a 16 or 17 year old.
I really enjoy the depth the character gets throughout and the Scottish actor who played him recommended a new drink to me, I tried Irn Bru this weekend too!!! :)
At 8:05 you say Gandalf was partially annoyed at Pippin for pledging his service to Denethor. This was true in the movie, but quite the opposite in the book: Gandalf speaking to Pippin after their initial meeting with Denethor had ended: "...I do not know what put it into your head, or your heart, to do that [pledging his service]. But it was well done." The Return of The King, Chapter 1, "Minas Tirith", by JRRT
I like to think that each time Aragorn visit the Shire that Pippin would kneel before him and welcome his king, but Aragorn would always tell him that was never necessary as they are brothers.
While Samwise Gamjee "The Brave", is the absolute hero of the end of the 3rd Age, The Fool of a Took is my absolute favourite of all the Hobbits! I even have a stuffed 🐻 called Pippin 😍.
Specifically, Pippin (and all hobbits in that time) only used the informal version of second person, because the version of Westron used in The Shire no longer had a formal second person. There is no such distinction in present day English. Second person is always "you", but it does exist in present day Danish, where informal is "du" and formal is "De" (capitalized, and rarely used here in 2022). German has that distinction too... I think it's "du" vs "Sie". So that's how you con Gondorians into assuming you're royalty (or at least high nobility). Just address the Steward as "du".
English did have an informal version of the second person - 'thou'. 'You' is the formal version. It's a pity we're all so formal, but using 'thou' now would sound silly. It's only really used in prayers, signifying intimacy with God.
1:02 "...born to the Took family of the Great Smials..." No! No! No! "Smial" just has to rhyme with "trial", not "wheel". Having a smial sound just like a smile is so much more Hobbitish. (They did rename their river from Baranduin to Brandywine.)
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It would be quite the poetic ending if Merry and Pippin, after they ‘died’, found themselves reawaken in the Undying Lands, where they forever reunite with Frodo and Sam. I believe Legolas and Gimli are there as well, and I wouldn’t doubt it if Aragorn found himself given a place in the Undying Lands, as well, given how great of a Man he was and how close he was to the Elves, even in mannerism, given how his life went and how he grew up in Rivendell.
Legolas - yes. Gimli - the fate of dwarfs after they die is unknown. Humans & Hobbits - the Valar cannot remove the Gift of Iluvatar, it is their fate to leave Ardar after they die, but to what end the Valar know not.
Not really. Hobbits don't have much by way of facial hair. However, someone once suggested that the three different breeds of Hobbit - Stoors, Harfoots, and Fallowhides - correspond to the other three humanoid races, respectively Men, Dwarves, and Elves.
He’s such an underrated character. Going from what could be a comic relief to a layered character traumatized from the real world and grow mentally stronger and wiser from this. I don’t know what it is but is fantastic writing.
From the "Fool of a Took" that foolishly threw a rock in Moria, thus alerting the goblins and Durin's Bane of the Fellowship's presence, into a Guard of the Citadel, one of the commanders of the Shire's rebellion against Sharkey and eventual Thain of the Shire.
Pippin was clearly one of the characters that went through the most character development in "The Lord of the Rings".
"You need people of intelligence on this sort of mission. Quest. Thing."
Peregrin Took was a halfling with more than his share of flaws, but he learned that responsibility is power and to take responsibility for the consequences of his actions, and that everything is a choice. Thankfully Pippin's choices played a role in achieving victory in the War of the Ring, and the end of the Dark Lord, the Fellowship was lucky to count him amongst their number.
I really enjoyed them in the films, but think Merry and Pippin were much more badass in the books. And reading that they were buried beside Elessar was a tearjerker moment.
Don't forget a beer and extra pipe.
Must.. Not.. Read.. LOTR secret diaries. You'll be permanently scarred.
It was, it is, it will be a tearjerker moment.
I always get a kick out of imagining an older Pippen swaggering about at Court in Minas Tirith in full armor with Prince Faramir shortly after Second Breakfast. Or an older Merry reunited with Lady Eowyn and King Eomer.
same! an Old Grandfather telling the same story over and over and every time so welcomed!
"You are grown up now. Grown indeed very high; among the great you are, and I have no longer any fear at all for any of you."
Fool of a took, throwed himself next time on a troll and saved his friend! Gandalf was really proud! I think Pippin deserves far more respect for he is really one of those characters that had that character arc, both in movies and in the books
Yoystan, another great video!
Peregrine was one of those who did deeds, intended or not, saved Middle Earth. His misadventure with the palantir of Orthanc, along with Aragorn's intentional use of same, kept the Eye of Sauron away from the true threat.
Am I the only one that gets a little choked up when the passing away of Merry and Pippin is mentioned?
Yup
Perrin was one of my favorite characters in the later books and movies. I'm glad I rediscovered this channel again.
Pippin is a character we all can relate to. He’s young and quite foolish and immature, but he learned from the hardships he went through . He became an adult
What a great summary of the life Peregrine Took. Everything must start somewhere and he started a bit earlier in life, for his kind, but he made all Hobbits proud and many of his deeds were greater than those of whom one would expect more.
Love these kinds of videos. Thanks.
Through Pippin's tale, we may also learn that our mistakes are not what define us throughout our lifetime, but rather the sum of all our deeds, much like milestones upon our paths we tread.
I clicked onto this post as soon as I recall Pippin talking about second breakfast 😅
I seem to remember reading Gandalf actually respecting and lauding Pippin's decision to swear fealty to Denethor as a worthy and honorable thing to do. I don't remember him being annoyed by that at all. Gandalf just had a mild fear of Pippin's mouth control and didn't want him to wag his tongue overmuch about events because Denethor was razor sharp and could "perceive" things others could not. Of course that didn't matter much as Denethor already knew or had guessed the bulk of their business.
I actually just got to that part in the book (re-reading them for the first time in many years), and you are correct. I think Gandalf was taken aback a bit by Denathor's insight, though this was before he knew he possessed and had been using a Palantir. Denathor is also a far more sympathetic character in the books than the films.
One does not simply wag their tongue in the presence of Denathor ll,a very perceptive man.
Pippin and Merry are my wife's favorite part of the tale...she was sore and cross when the movies left out the scouring.
"Well then, what is the point of telling a tale...if you don't tell the ending of it?"
Great video! I've always loved that specific artwork of Peregrin Took! 😍
I'd love to see a character sheet for Pippin by the end of tLotR, dude definitely levelled up many times throughout the story, maybe even more than Gandalf.
Gandalf was already a high level PC, but when his character died, The DM gave him two more levels since he mainly classed into fighter.
Thank you for transporting me away from the worries of the world for a few minutes with your videos.
I'm going to have to reread the part of "The Fellowship of the Ring" where Pippin drops the rock down the well, but I seem to remember it happening in a guard station long before the Fellowship was attacked in Morzarbul. I suppose he could still be to blame if his action perhaps caused a scout to be sent to investigate and that's how they were discovered, but that's not entirely clear. That one falling stone may not have had anything to do with the Fellowship being discovered in Moria. It certainly doesn't happen in the book like it did in the movie where Pippin was very clearly to blame for their being attacked! As I said, I'm going to have to reread that part, but I think Pippin maybe doesn't quite deserve all the crap he gets over that attack. Either way, if not for that attack Gandalf the Gray would never have become Gandalf the White, and that may have doomed them all.
I can't explain how much I love the Hobbits. Our main four from LOTR plus Bilbo are some of the best characters ever written. They just pull at my heartstrings and ugh I just love them okay! It makes sense why Gandalf and Aragorn had such a soft spot for the race and protected the Shire.
Thank you Men of the west! Your tales bring me much needed peace in these dark times.
Pippin and Merry were laid to rest next to Aragorn II Elessar as the only other members of the Fellowship to remain in Middle-earth. Boromir would would pass out into the Bay of Belfalas in the boat of Lothlorian and "whither then I cannot say." Frodo went to the Undying Lands with Gandalf et al. Later, Legolas would take Gimli into the West and finally, Sam would depart Middle-earth by the Straight Road.
The tenth member of the Fellowship, Bill the Pony, also likely remained in Middle Earth.
@@tominiowa2513 Quite true.
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My favorite of the fellowship.
Special shout out to Billy Boyd's singing voice, absolutely fantastic gift he has. 🎶
Yes, Joysten, I too love Pippin that “fool of a Took” who ends up like his great Hobbit brethren who accomplish unexpected greatness. This was a lovely episode and thanks for your faithfulness to our beloved tale and its heritage. I’m an old man and an avid reader of Tolkien and will be ever grateful to my grandson for leading me to your channel. Grace & peace. Robbie
"I think you have strength, of a different kind. And one day your father will see it."
Man I can't think of another who went thru more of a character change than pip, both book and movie. He was a rich kid who probably lived an easy life and ended up saving the world, if u fervently believe the killing Gandalf theory. Hes the friend everyone wants but u shake your head at more than a dozen times in a single day ^_^
Also by hobbit standards I should b a full blown adult by now......I would not make a good adult hobbit 😭😅🤣😂
All the best men and hobbits have a bit of the boy...that adulthood can't restrain about them
Excellent work Mellon! Keep it up. Pippin was one of the bravest beings of the 3rd age...toe to toe with Saur-Saur...now that's a Hell of a Took! ECTHELION!
Here we go this is my favorite character in all Tolkien history
Mine as well!
Can't wait for the what-if video for what if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
Thank you so much for making this video! Pippin Took has been my favorite character in the world since I was twelve.
The Guard of the Citadel indeed.
Great video. I am loving this series! At twenty-eight, Pippin's age would be about the equivalent to a fifteen or sixteen-year-old human. This explains much of his initial immaturity. Merry was thirty-six, and Samwise thirty-eight; still quite young by Hobbit standards, but significantly older than Pippin. Frodo, by comparison, was fifty at the start of their quest. All four grow exponentially as characters over the course of the story, though I would argue Pippin most of all, owing at least in part to his age and how events forced him to "grow up" before he'd fully matured.
Sam is my favorite character, but Pippin shows the most character growth. Imagine how surprised Sharkey's men must have been when knights of Rohan and Gondor show up to confront them!
Love Pippin, currently on my first read-through of the French translation of Pippin, and dear lord did I forget how much I love that 'Fool of a Took'! He's hilarious and likely my fourth-favourite character of the whole Fellowship right behind Merry, Aragorn and Sam. Honestly, I can't wait to get more LOTRO coins so as to make a character inspired by Pippin in there.
Originally, when I first watch the Movies, Pippin was my favorite character, *(keep in mind I haven't read any of the books outside of The Hobbit)* I still love his character *soon* 7 years later, but I related to him...Now *as my most recent read and watch* it's a combination of Eowyn of Pippin!!!
Man Mellon Thanks, so much for Pippin's ECH, Until Whatever happened in the South and East in Arda *Hm, Interesting* Marion Baggins Out!!!
This is so beautifully written and wholesome, as all of your compositions. I'm so glad to be subscribed.
One of my favorites characters ❤️
Favorite scene in movie and book is when the two young hobbits are sitting at the gate of Isenguard drinking and smoking when the rest of the fellowship shows up.
Amazing. You are my favorite RUclipsr by far.
The light is with you. Thank you friend
Brings joy to my heart. Such little folk. Such great deeds
I highly enjoyed this video!! It reminded me of my high school friend who was a clown and then patriotically enlisted in The Marines. Sadly, he sacrificed himself saving his platoon in Iraq.
I’m sorry for your loss my friend. He was a hero!
@@MenoftheWest Thank you very much. I appreciate what you said. Funny thing was: when we met in high school, we found out that we were born one hour apart AND in the same hospital too!!!
Take notes, Amazon. This what true hobbit is like.
Pippin is someone you want to dislike at first for his foolishness but you just can't and later discover that he is actually a fine fellow.
I relate to Pippin a lot, he’s immature, young, and curious, quite similar to me, I do wish I can live up to responsibility and leadership, just as he did in, both books and movies
Wait so if pippin was 29 when at Gondor, when we first meet him before Bilbos party he’s actually 12??? As obviously there was that 17 year gap when Gandalf was away
Yep! And that's probably the equivalent of around seven for a Hobbit.
@@dustwyrm Oh wow! So I guess that really shows us why he's so troublesome and immature and why Gandalf can be so hard on him, he's practically a kid! aha
@@tomthecookieking167 Yep, though I want to clarify I meant he was about seven at the time of the party. At the time of the quest he's probably the equivalent of a 16 or 17 year old.
This is so great...Pippin is my favourite.
Peregrin frickin' TOOK.
What a great Hobbit.
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That Fool of a Took was only foolish due to his heritage. He and Meriadoc both were quite young by the reckoning of their people.
alrigt time for an awesome character growth
awesome video Yoystan really enjoyed it
Thanks, great video as always 🙏🏻👊🏻👍🏻😊
Thanks guys
I don’t have anything to add to the conversation but I appreciate you making this content
Boromir would have been so proud of him. 8'X
I really enjoy the depth the character gets throughout and the Scottish actor who played him recommended a new drink to me, I tried Irn Bru this weekend too!!! :)
Billy Boyd is his name. He also really sang the song in Denethor's Hall in Return of the King.
@@mish375 Yessir and he's a great musician!!!
At 8:05 you say Gandalf was partially annoyed at Pippin for pledging his service to Denethor. This was true in the movie, but quite the opposite in the book:
Gandalf speaking to Pippin after their initial meeting with Denethor had ended:
"...I do not know what put it into your head, or your heart, to do that [pledging his service]. But it was well done."
The Return of The King, Chapter 1, "Minas Tirith", by JRRT
Pippen had the best character arc of all,he was the youngest member of the fellowship at 28. He still was in his tweens.
I like to think that each time Aragorn visit the Shire that Pippin would kneel before him and welcome his king, but Aragorn would always tell him that was never necessary as they are brothers.
While Samwise Gamjee "The Brave", is the absolute hero of the end of the 3rd Age, The Fool of a Took is my absolute favourite of all the Hobbits!
I even have a stuffed 🐻 called Pippin 😍.
But what about second breakfast? 🤔 Keep up the great work, fantastic channel thanks!
So are you going to do a Video on Merry Brandybuck?
This was a great video it’s been a while since reading the books
Let’s just hope no one from Middle Earth makes a Macbeth parody with the Thane of the Shire replacing the Thane of Cawdor.
Billy Boyd was in Macbeth...
❤️Pippin
I wonder how physically growing taller changed Pippen's status in the Shire. A Peregrin Took 2.0 after the Lord of the rings.
Specifically, Pippin (and all hobbits in that time) only used the informal version of second person, because the version of Westron used in The Shire no longer had a formal second person.
There is no such distinction in present day English. Second person is always "you", but it does exist in present day Danish, where informal is "du" and formal is "De" (capitalized, and rarely used here in 2022). German has that distinction too... I think it's "du" vs "Sie".
So that's how you con Gondorians into assuming you're royalty (or at least high nobility). Just address the Steward as "du".
English did have an informal version of the second person - 'thou'. 'You' is the formal version. It's a pity we're all so formal, but using 'thou' now would sound silly. It's only really used in prayers, signifying intimacy with God.
Very well done.
Well done and wonderful art 👏👏👏👏
I came of age as a hobbit today!
Oh Happy Birthday, my friend! Look at that timing!
1:02
"...born to the Took family of the Great Smials..."
No! No! No!
"Smial" just has to rhyme with "trial", not "wheel".
Having a smial sound just like a smile is so much more Hobbitish.
(They did rename their river from Baranduin to Brandywine.)
Peregrin son of Paladin.
this was heartwarming
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Nice work dude
Fool of a Took
It is ironic that both fool of a took moment resulted in more good than bad. (A comment I found somewhere)
That's a good what if.... What if durins bane was never awoken and gandalf never died. Of course with them never fighting the goblins in moria
It kind of shows how our mistakes aren't always negative. Sometimes good comes of it.
@@mish375 yes I understand that but that's not the point. That's why it's a what if
Is anyone else able to share these videos with the thumbnail? I can share Nerd of the Rings videos without a problem.
It would've been so cool to have met Tolkien im so sad I never got too
Makes me want to play LEGO The Lord of the Rings.
Why is audio so low?
I see you lotro.
Pippin!
Its strange call him by the nickname followed by surname. "Pippin Took"
Thain of the shire
Bane of gandalf 😅
It would be quite the poetic ending if Merry and Pippin, after they ‘died’, found themselves reawaken in the Undying Lands, where they forever reunite with Frodo and Sam. I believe Legolas and Gimli are there as well, and I wouldn’t doubt it if Aragorn found himself given a place in the Undying Lands, as well, given how great of a Man he was and how close he was to the Elves, even in mannerism, given how his life went and how he grew up in Rivendell.
Legolas - yes. Gimli - the fate of dwarfs after they die is unknown. Humans & Hobbits - the Valar cannot remove the Gift of Iluvatar, it is their fate to leave Ardar after they die, but to what end the Valar know not.
its a little off-topic but does it make sense to anyone that hobbit are an offshoot of hybrid between dwarves and men
its a little off-topic but does it make sense to anyone that hobbit are an offshoot of dwarves and men?
Not really. Hobbits don't have much by way of facial hair.
However, someone once suggested that the three different breeds of Hobbit - Stoors, Harfoots, and Fallowhides - correspond to the other three humanoid races, respectively Men, Dwarves, and Elves.