World of Warships - Throwing Distance
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2023
- Today we're going to try to be positive about things, which is why this is definitely NOT another episode of A Game of Throws. No sir! Not this video.
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Today, I found out that Mahan was secretly a Bismarck-class battleship in disguise. Thank you for enlightening me, Lord Jingles.
Stay gold, ponyboy
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And it's the naval theory writer pronounced Ma Han. Cause I've seen the lecture on him the Naval college gives.
“The cloggies are basically just swamp Germans, aren’t they?”
😂😂😂😂😂😂
made me a bit scared till he said he wanted our stroopwaffels so we good now
It does sound funny.
Until you realize that has a true kernel to it.
Germany or at that time "Holy Roman Empire" extended well into modern france, netherlands, belgium, luxembourg, modern italy, switzerland, austria, ungary, czechia, poland, russia (exclave kaliningrad) meaning in all these countries either remants or relatively big influences of german culture and language are left.
As a certified swamp German I suppose I should feel insulted. If only it wasn't so funny :).
@@richardkip930I put Vegemite on mine, so much nicer 😂
@@ArschvomDienst yeah Germany and HRE are not synonyms.
"the mahan is on fire, is it gonna go down?"
*tirpitz gets sunk*
"it is!"
😂😂😂
Jingles jingled a lot this episode. The "second" kill was really the third. The call out you mentioned and several others xD
That's the fun of watching though while down in the salt mines.
@@NPzed I mean..he is getting on his years after all.
Jingles' blunders are his whole bag;) his official title could be "charismatically inaccurate announcer"
Straatvader is entirely Dutch. It's a street father who keeps rioting kids in check. Both straat and vader are different words in German
Straat[nl] = Straße[de]
vader[nl] = Vater[de]
As we are German, we have a nice, long, complicated word vor Straatvader: Sozialarbeiter.
Slightly different.
In modern german.
Dutch is very close to other 'german regional accents'.
Keep in mind what is known as german is "High German" aka "Hochdeutsch" and there are a couple hundred regional dialekts. Some of which are directly related to foreign languages.
For example germans with the regional dialect "Plattdütsch" (both eastern and wester variants) can understand british people without any qualms even if they never had contact to the english language, inhabitants of the "Saarland" can understand french, ...
The closest German word would be Straßenvater, which is not entirely a real word in terms of that nobody uses it, but this would be the correct spelling.
Thank you featuring me Jingles! Have been watching your videos since ages and get featured twice a week on your channel is quite a treat for me. ~Straatvader
Great game Christian! Greetz from NLD!
Well played!
Goed gedaan, ouwe!
Groet'm, Magere_Hein_10 aka Swamp_German_
Bedrand!
Heel boelkloedig uitgespeeld maat.
Straatvader was also in the DD div of the Graf Zeppelin game last tuesday ❤
Was looking for this comment.
No way!?
Yes I was ❤
favoritism then.
What are the odds! Nice.
Only jingles can mistake the Battleship Tirpitz for a Mahan class destroyer
12:22 "Will Straatvaders team get their second kill, whilst they have 5 ships left? No!" Completely ignoring that the Schors sank the enemy Kagero for their SECOND kill, at 11:50, the same time as he was lost! Jingles even mentioned that he'd taken the Kagaro with him. Jingles "The Observant" strikes again! lol
even with so few ships left the old man can´t keep track of the events ...
Jingles the "makes deliberate glaring mistakes to ensure comments are left, thus increasing algorithm activity" strikes again!
Jingles blunders are his whole bag;) his official title should be "the charismatically inaccurate announcer"
In his self-defense.... I think that it would be easy to make that mistake if the enemy team isn't showing in the replay
It’s pronounced Muh-HAHN, very similar to how you say mahogany. At least that’s how I was taught it in the Navy. OFC, the Navy also taught me to pronounce leeward as lew-ward, forecastle as fo’c’sle, and drinking fountain as scuttlebutt.
Albert Thayer Mahan was a huge influence on naval strategy but the emergence of submarines and aircraft spoiled his focus on capital ships.
That sounds a bit familiar.
But Mahan did not think the Philippines could be defended.
I have read "The Influence of Sea Power..." and another huge change that makes his thinking obsolete is the appearance of wireless - instant ocean-spanning communications - though his accounts of battles show how the development of flag signaling paid off for the Royal Navy.
I wouldn't trust the vowel sounds I use for his name, the IPA has weaknesses in vowel sounds because it tries to assign definite sounds to different parts of a fuzzy blob. Then the stress on the second syllable affects the sound.
Those American examples feel odd to me, too close to a "schwa" but that is something genuinely American. Your example from "Mac" names brings in Irish and Scots accents, which bring in the "Is it a language?" question. At best, that makes a risky guide.
There are a lot of Lincolnshire connections to early American history. Since it is World Dracula Day I shall only mention that Sir John Smith (Jamestown / Virginia) was knighted by the Prince of Transylvania.
I concur. I also learned it's Muh-HAHN in the Navy.
Alfred Thayer Mahan (/məˈhæn/; September 27, 1840 - December 1, 1914) was a United States naval officer and historian,
Rather obviously two syllables. Am also quite sure, since he got commissioned as lieutenant in 1861 during the civil war and only born in 1840 , he was NOT a Civil War Admiral ^^
@@mynameiswritinwater Jingles has forgotten something quite important when comparing McMahan with Mahan. McMahan is not rooted from English but is actually anglicised GAELIC. In Gaelic it would indeed be pronounced as a single syllable as he stated in the video.
Jingles is English, and many English kind of forget at times that like Wales, Ireland and Scotland still have extant Celtic languages, and that many names and place names derive from those languages, not English, Anglo Saxon or Norse.
@@alganhar1 why do you tell me ? - American tradition on pronouncing the name is available online (wikipedia and several language sites - as quoted ) and even in a single language there are different pronounciations of the same name in regional dialects. If you are uncertain look it up and verify the source. Jingles wondered but was not willing to look it up. Given some other rushed stuff in that vid,... yeah well /shrug
Even after being, ever so casually, insulted for being a inhabitant of a country not far
from our Uncle Jingles, i can not but come to the conclusion that this man is a born
story teller and i enjoy pretty much all he has to say 6 times a week. Even above narration.
+1 old man, live long in happiness.
I think a pint or two in Amsterdam might get him to reminisce about the good old days when his ship docked in Den Helder and the NS took him to .. er... where bad boys go. Charles Stross is fond of the place as well.
Careful now, Jingles, you don't want to anger us Swamp Germans. Chatam is not very well defended at the moment...
😂
l’audace, l’audace. Toujour l’audace…
Go ahead, bombard it, you'll cause millions of pounds worth of improvements.
@@AR-hi1hy while they’re at it, they can take a swing at Gravesend too. Can’t get much worse
Hi Jingles, I would have translated my name like 'father of the street'. It is indeed a combination of two Dutch words. ~Straatvader
Jingles, just so you know, Old English and modern day Frissian (a Germanic language spoken in a part of the Netherlands) are so similar that they can understand each other, so you guys are by definition just Island Germans.
Sincerely, a Swamp German 😁
"Island Germans".
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Our new German empire grows by the day I see.
As a Mountain Celt I resent that!
@@tbjtbj7930 Alpine or Perinese Celtic?
@@DocLeQuack well we already put a German on their Throne (several times in fact ) and they just don't notice
There are a lot of subtleties to Japanese pronunciation but if you're curious Azuma is written in three characters a zu ma. Japanese follows a rhythm where each syllable is pronounced on one beat or count. The a and ma rhyme, the zu rhymes with zoo but for perfect pronunciation you avoid elongating the vowel. But the way you typically pronounce it is more than adequate for someone who doesn't speak Japanese.
Jingles to Dutch viewers: "Need moar Stroopwafels, or else..."
Also Jingles: "What do you have against Tirpitzes?"
The Dutch: "Nothing in particular, outside a disagreement around May. We're just not sure about the year..."
The fact that no enemy BB was able to shred a cruiser circling around the middle in open waters is mind boggling.
If you watch the throttle indicator, Straatvader was adjusting their speed a fair amount. The enemy team was also turtling pretty far back on the map. My guess is a combination of unpredictable piloting, distance, and bad aim.
I actually like the "bug". It makes it cooler when you don't know who's on the other team until you see them.
It wouldn’t be a jingles video.. without him asking “Are they gonna get their Second Kill..”. When it would have been their third 😂❤
Clutching the win at the end...exceptionally good shooting in this one.
The McMahon is a different spelling to the Mahan although in this game it is pronounced Tirpitz :) Great result for a team that looked like an easy loss :)
They were both Admirals, right? So it's okay. 😇😇😇
Jingles' blunders are his whole bag;) his official title could be "charismatically inaccurate announcer"
"The last hit set a fire there. Will the Mayhan go done?"
**Enemy Tirpitz sunk**
"YES!"
Never change, Jingles ... :D
Now I understand the no enemy team bug.
"With friends like these you don't need enemies"
Would love to see the red team's chat from about the 1/3 or 1/2 way through the match.
The screaming would be intense lol.
That cruiser at the end learned the definition of "fuck around and find out."
As a 20 year U.S.N. vet, I can tell you, "May-han", as you were pronouncing it, is correct.
I was having a dodgy day so far, but jingles always makes it a bit better.
Mahan is one of the signpost admirals. He is the one that passed a paper around about having a navy in existence BEFORE you need them for a war despite the cost as a deterrence.
“Won’t someone kill these low health enemy ships?” Straatvader keeps splitting fire.
The Colorado activated his 'Someone else's problem' consumable
No, you were right! The Hood was on low health and taking the hits for the team.
"Are they going to get their second kill while they're still on five ships? No they're not!"
Meanwhile: *_Two ships already killed._*
Jingles moment! Everyone take a drink!
Jingles' blunders are his whole bag;) his official title could be "charismatically inaccurate announcer"
@@j_ro
So... CIA.
*_Deploys Black Helicopters_*
I like my liver too much to play that drinking game.
The real MVP was the light cruiser again - delivered victory in an instant.
That's it, nobody send Jingles any more stroopwafels, only drop from now on! Don't mess with the cloggies!😂
Alfred Thayer Mahan (/ m ə ˈ h æ n /; September 27, 1840 - December 1, 1914) was a United States naval officer and historian, whom John Keegan called "the most important American strategist of the nineteenth century."
So ya.. I believe that IS pronounced correctly all this time :)
The cloggies are basically swamp Germans 😂 the best thing I’ve heard
"Let's just face it, the 'Cloggies' are basically just Swamp-Germans anyway, aren't they?"
1:59
😂😂😂😂
Things I learnt from this video. Mahan's can be camoflagued as Tirptiz's. Ibuki is a German heavy cruiser with long range hydro.... how did I not know these things ? The Azuma's a good ship but whenever I play it you do tend to get smashed from odd angles with the high number of very large caliber AP guns around these days.
1:33 "AH-zu-ma" is basically* the correct pronunciation. Same with most three-syllable Japanese words, like "YA-ma-to," "MO-ga-mi," "MI-ka-sa," etc.
*I say "basically" because strictly speaking, I think most native Japanese speakers would tell you Japanese is a "flat" language where you don't actually put a lot of emphasis on any one syllable. But as native English speakers used to putting emphasis on certain syllables, putting a little emphasis on the first syllable of most three-syllable words in Japanese (as opposed to the second syllable, which seems to be most native English speakers' natural inclination) will get you pretty close.
A few more basic tips on Japanese pronunciation for anyone interested (I could go more in detail than this, but I wanted to keep the points relatively brief):
1. VOWEL SOUNDS! There are only five vowel sounds in Japanese. A ("ah"), I ("ee"), U ("oo"), E ("eh" or "ey"), and O ("oh"). If you think you're hearing another vowel sound (like "aye"), it's probably actually two of the other sounds put together in quick succession ("ah ee"). Double, triple, and sometimes even quadruple vowels aren't uncommon in Japanese.
2. A lot of times, vowels will effectively get "dropped" from words, like the u in "Akatsuki" ("ah-KA-ts-ki"). Technically you're still giving it the length of the full four syllables (although if you're not used to hearing Japanese spoken at full speed, you could be forgiven for thinking it was being condensed down to three syllables), but the "breath" has been taken out of the vowel sound. This can also happen at the end of words, most commonly with I and U. "KA-wa-chi" might sound like "KA-wa-ch," "MU-tsu" might sound like "MU-ts," etc. Again, you're still technically saying the full length of the syllable, but the vowel sound is kind of lost. Worth noting that this can vary greatly between individual speakers and regional dialects, as some Japanese speakers will more fully annunciate those vowel sounds.
3. The "Japanese R" sound, which is sort of an R, an L, and sometimes a little bit of a D all rolled together. There are tons of videos out there on how to learn to pronounce this, but it basically involves touching the area right behind the tip of your tongue to the ridge on the roof of your mouth.
Lmao. “The cloggies are really just swamp Germans.”
My prediction for when the green team would get its first kill was after losing half their team and another five minutes from when Jingles first started asking for estimates. I wasn't too far off.
His team was suffering from a severe case of “someone else’s problem” when the Colorado was on low health.
To be fair he was bloody far away, and at least once while Jingles was bemoaning the fact that no one was shooting at him, someone shot at him.
@@MorningNapalm I did see that lol. Didn’t make much difference since he still got away on 1k health after teetering there for a few minutes while Jingles went on to narrate other things.
@@Alitmos I think the Colorado was also clever enough to stop shooting and go dark while he regained some health.
"Street Father" took care of his business with a casual ease. If I actually played the game, I'd start sweating if I saw his name on the enemy team list. GG good Sir.
Please make sure those precious floofy demi-goddesses get the scritches and treats they are due.
Keep up the good work, material support primate Jingles.
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I served on USS Mahan DDG 42
Farragut class destroyer refitted in the 60's for the Cold War Era of missile boats.
We pronounced it "muh-han"
Oof, that captain got paddled so hard, he'll comandeer the next battle in a canoo.
To be really pedantic, Mahan was only a Lieutenant during the Civil War; you're probably thinking of Farragut. Mahan was only promoted to admiral after he retired.
Love the “positive things on things” at the end! 😂
It may have been 'almost' a game of throws, but it was certaily fun to watch!
"The cloggies are just swamp germans"
As a person of dutch herritage, never have I been so offended by sometning I 100% agree with.
Ah yes, the mahan, renowned for its turtleback armor and 15 inch guns, never change jingles
Man's said "hold my beer, LEEEEEEEEROOOOOOY JEEEEEENKINS!!!!"
Love ya Old Man your vids always make my day.
Loved it Jingles!! another one off your finest!!!
A tip for stroopwafel - rest them on top of a hot cup of coffee for 30-60 secs before eating. Yum!
Both very well done Straatvader well done in game, and Jingles very well done in staying positive.. Straatvader translated, Street Dad
I was gonna guess that they lose 6 ships before getting a kill, but then you said to be more pessimistic and it'd probably still not be correct, so I changed it to 8.
Damn you Jingles!!!
3 ships and 5 minutes after the mention of the not sinking anyone on the enemy team
"Gloryfying the negative a bit...?" Naah, sarcasm is the highest form of the human arts, never compromise on that.
Thank you for giving respect to the Mahan at the end of the video. You're right, Mahan is not a very good destroyer and it does not uptier well at all, especially in a carrier game. But man, he put in WORK. Not only did he nuke the friendly Fletcher, but also killed the friendly Jean Bart with the shit tier torpedoes that the Mahan gets. That's two top tier, very deadly ships that he took out early on before they had much of a chance to impact the battle. He did his best to keep the win all the way to the end. If you're reading this, Mahan player, I salute you.
"Straat" is telling, that's deffo Dutch for "Street".
We Germermans usually do not deal in double a's - double o's yes, even double e's at times, but not double a's.
Except of course when glueing otherwise innocent words together to compounds as we are want to do every now and then ...
To be honest Jingles, I reckon I would have stopped playing WOW a long time ago but for your videos, your optimistic attitude and live life to the full demeanor is an example to all of us!
Hey Jingles! Thanks for the videos! I have to say your WoWs videos are the best. WoT is next.
Do you ever see a video where one team is absolutely getting slaughtered in under 8 minutes for WoWs?
I personally think of "Swamp German" as a humorous term of endearment.
Others may not see it like that, though.
Swamp Germans 😂
I’ve never heard that and you already know I’m gonna use it
16:00 The Mahan a.k.a. Tirpitz goes down!
Mahan, is pronounced Ma-han. He was an American naval officer who after a nondescript career at sea was assigned as a professor in the US Naval Academy. There he wrote a book that was translated into many languages and became required reading in Japan and European Capitals. He became known as one of the most important strategist of the nineteenth century. In Mahan's books he argues that throughout history no Empire or major power has lasted long without seaborne trade and a strong navy to protect it. Mahan's books also kick off the Battleship race among nations when he predicts that future naval wars between peers and near peers will be decided by decisive engagements between whole fleets where big gun battleships will play the most important role. Mahan's writings influenced The Battle of Jutland in WW I and the Japanese obsession with fighting a decisive naval battle in WW II.
16:03 That’s a big, suspiciously German-looking Mahan there, Jingles.
It's May-han, you're just overthinking it Jingles
1:27 Jingles....
STOP LICKING THE BATTLECRUISER
Jingles confusing the Tirpitz for Mahan. Oh don't change
Anyone else noticed that this guy was one of the destroyers in "Smoke me a Kipper, Skipper" earlier this week?
That poor poor light cruiser, it was just herp aderp away when suddenly, citadel city.
As an old US Navy brat, I've always heard it pronounced mah-HAN. However he is always called Afred Thayer Mahan. He is the semi-official God of the Navy, and his book The Influence of Sea Power on History is the Navy's semi-official Bible. It has been argued that it was his theories that led the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor, so it may have backfired on us.
Japan based their naval strategy on an oversimplified version of Mahan's theories, which led them to the conclusion that the best way to win a war was to win a single decisive battle that crushes the enemy fleet. In reality, Mahan's doctrine was that winning such a battle gives you *control of the seas,* which is extremely valuable but not the automatic "I win" button the IJN seemed to think.
Japan also failed to recognize that the usual way a nation that has control of the seas can defeat their enemy without needing to fight any further battles (by blockading their ports until they surrender) simply can't work on the United States, because Japan would in the absolute best-case scenario still only have been able to blockade the west coast, which would be far from crippling to the US economy.
I must admire enemy Colorado, a slow, bottom tier BB for survival almost to the end...
16:10 that sure is a nice Mahan kill he got there xD
That was an incredible comeback. I had a feeling when all of those low health ships still around...
He says Mahan is on fire... the feed says Tirpitz sunk... Never change Paul...🤣
“The Cloggies are basically just swamp Germans.”
Are you seriously telling me that the Dutch are German Florida Men?
Hooo.....leeeee.....cow. i had to rewind that last kill. Magnificent!
the reason mr Straat here is so happy, is because he is hight as a kite haha the Dutch we love you❤
I think the Mahan is a fine destroyer.
Yeah I'm average overall and do quite well in the Mahan. Now the Farragut on the other hand😬
What an ending 😂 BOOM! HEADSHOT!🎉
knowing Jingles it is probably all of them lmao
11 minutes into the battle, Straatvader's team will score their first kill, having already lost five ships of their own.
mahan on fire is it gonna go down,tirpitz dies, it is! oh jignles
He is all alone in a time of need.
That was definitely a Game of Throws. I did like it though.
First sinking guess:
9 minutes, 7 friendlies sunk.
By detonation from near full…
I literally woke up at 1 am to be early to a Jingles vid and I still fucked it up.
Cheers.
My original guess was 5, but I changed it to 6 after your comments about underestimating.
Hey our Mighty overlord Jingles. As a humble salt mining worker since 2014, have you ever thought about bringing back a couple of classics, like.. The Good the bad and the ugly series? Or your forgotten cooking channel? I've recently been going back on your videos, its always great having your voice in the background while I'm cooking dinner for the family.. Anyway I will be returning to my duties in the salt mine. Much love from a South African living in China 😊
cloggies, must remember that one when i talk about the dutch next time XD
Haha swamp Germans... Real funny. And yes we keep the stroopwafels coming...
He's one of the destroyers in the last video, isn't he? The carrier video.
"Not a Game of Throws", Pilot-Episode
well, that was a paddlin at the end. great way to finish the game
I am the same age as you jingles and that is the very first time I have heard anybody pronounce my surname correctly WELL DONE OLD MAN YOU GOT SOMETHING RIGHT
😂😂
BTW McMahon means son of the hun ☺️
Can you imagine how much damage a competent torpedo destroyer could have done at about the halfway mark?
To be fair to Strat, he was spotted by planes while capping before firing.
16:31 Mathematically, they are not going to catch up before the match ends. 912 with once cap to 789 with two caps would be 1000 to 877 when the team with one cap reaches 1000. So it is actually the other team that as to do something, like blocking a cap most likely.
they likely would have done so shortly after the last salvo, he saved the game neat and tidy
another lesson perfectly showcased by the Colorado: ignoring low HP ships WILL come back to haunt you. remove those guns from the match, if you can.