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  • Опубликовано: 13 фев 2017
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    First published on April 18, 2013.
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Комментарии • 73

  • @jergarmar
    @jergarmar 5 лет назад +129

    This was the review that not only led me to Archipelago, one of my favorite games, but also made me appreciate SU&SD as something more than goofy Brits doing goofy skits. They have a clear vision to promote games that you can play with friends, games that get people laughing and interacting, while also being very good games. It's a great alternative to the "BGG mindset" that tends to prioritize heavy puzzley euros.

  • @matthewbrown3981
    @matthewbrown3981 5 лет назад +45

    I really need an "Ordinary Sized Reference Pineapple™" in my life

    • @wesleyswank1527
      @wesleyswank1527 4 года назад +3

      For the low price of a pear, a scallion, and a box of toothpicks, you too can experience the miracle of the Ordinary-Sized Reference Pineapple™.

  • @draconianlife
    @draconianlife 7 лет назад +98

    This got their #1 spot for best game in 2013, I'd really like to know if they'd STILL recommend it with all the good games that have come out since.

    • @shutupandsitdown
      @shutupandsitdown  7 лет назад +96

      Yes! Still great.

    • @einhorn303
      @einhorn303 7 лет назад +12

      Last night, I played two games (two!) of Archipelago with my room mate. It reminded me that it's my #1 all-time fav game.

    • @MK-11111
      @MK-11111 6 лет назад +3

      Good luck finding it!

    • @toomanybarts
      @toomanybarts 4 года назад +1

      Michael Kellett just got it on sale tonight at miniature market for $55 - result!

    • @RulebooksForYou
      @RulebooksForYou 4 года назад +1

      toomanybarts reprinted!

  • @jkerm2727
    @jkerm2727 5 лет назад +26

    no way he got through the "ordinary-sized reference pineapple" on the first or fiftieth take

  • @Panquernic
    @Panquernic 7 лет назад +25

    14:32 Paul's face reacting to the volcano lol, love it

    • @miro375
      @miro375 4 года назад

      I never understood why Paul hits Quinn

    • @PenguinOverlord4555
      @PenguinOverlord4555 11 месяцев назад

      @@miro375 Because Quinn spilled the beans about the table sets for the videos not being from real games. This is a huge betrayal of trust to Paul! You can't just tell someone that the video isn't real!!

  • @Derpplup
    @Derpplup 5 лет назад +34

    Mmmm so many hexagons makes me wanna play civilization

  • @alexhartan
    @alexhartan 7 лет назад +28

    Well that came to a rather abrupt halt..

  • @HubbiNashrullahM
    @HubbiNashrullahM Месяц назад +1

    This is one of my most favourite games of all time! I recently played it and it made me want to rewatch this review

  • @ThatGuy53297
    @ThatGuy53297 Год назад

    Paul's face when Quinn said the boards aren't real. Such betrayal. Like the scooby-doo short with Scooby eating everyone over and over again.

  • @andy4an
    @andy4an 7 лет назад +10

    WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT ISN'T REAL?!

  • @Caitlin_TheGreat
    @Caitlin_TheGreat 7 лет назад +28

    I love this game, wish I had more opportunities to play it. This was the video that sold me on it.
    As an aside I've discovered I know a number of people who are really bad at "hidden roles". I don't want to insult them, but I do find them frustrating.
    Played a game of this with someone who turned out to be the sympathizer, but for some reason they thought it meant someone _else_ was the sympathizer. So they played opposite of their role. Another, different person who I was playing Resistance: Avalon with was Merlin and they played that part by 1. remaining almost dead silent the whole time and 2. purposefully failing missions in order to "disguise" themselves, so of course the good guys lost.
    Those people would then complain that "this game isn't any fun". And this happened despite the roles being explained at length before play. Everyone else at the table knew what was up.
    But even so... I love this game and need to find more excuses to play it.

  • @atheist_addict
    @atheist_addict 6 месяцев назад +1

    Rewatching this after the John Company review. Things have changed.

  • @corytoews5222
    @corytoews5222 3 года назад +10

    Paul's gradually degrading pronunciation of archipelago is comedy gold.

  • @Twineandribbon
    @Twineandribbon 3 года назад +2

    This was the game that made me realize games that require 3 players as a minimum are just never going to get played at my house.
    Either we have 3 players and no one is willing to put in the time to learn a new game, or we only have 2 players. Owned this for 5 years and never got a game in.

  • @madend
    @madend 7 лет назад +4

    Would be curious to hear how it compares to the recently released Android: New Angeles. Have heard them mentioned at the same time before, but haven't had the chance to play either myself yet.

  • @zubeerek
    @zubeerek 7 лет назад +6

    After this review I bought Archipelago and I'm really happy with it great game. I wonder if you make a video about great western trail too?

  • @andersklausen
    @andersklausen 6 лет назад +3

    I realy want to buy this game! Realy ! But it seams to be out of Stock everywhere... do you know any place to buy on the internet or if its to be reprinted?

  • @brandonblack5499
    @brandonblack5499 7 лет назад +20

    I've never heard anyone pernounce archipelago correct but you guys nailed it!

    • @BensonBPH
      @BensonBPH 7 лет назад +7

      How do you pernounce "pernounce"?

    • @brandonblack5499
      @brandonblack5499 7 лет назад +3

      BensonBPH I'm not sure how autocorrect made it autoincorrect. but thanks for letting me know!

  • @Brax1982
    @Brax1982 6 лет назад +1

    This is from their "Innuendo Sells" phase.

  • @jmalmis
    @jmalmis 7 лет назад +4

    Either that milk paket is weirdly small or Quentin's hands are monstruous...

  • @MerlinsJester
    @MerlinsJester 7 лет назад +9

    You forgot to settle the topic of recommending the game

  • @hozonov7995
    @hozonov7995 4 года назад +3

    Nice game, nice Asuka poster.

  • @eschsoapy2809
    @eschsoapy2809 6 лет назад +8

    archipelago is a fantastic game. We mock the imperialist glossing over, but there do seem to be some counters to this stuff in the expansion. And the fact that there are "revolt" mechanisms and that there are separate populations of "real people" and "angry people" can leave one to draw one's own conclusions about what is going on beneath all the gloss and stuff. This game does take a while to learn and it doesn't seem to make it to table as much as I'd want, but it can also be super frustrating when one person has a good turn on the market board and an explore while another person gets zilch and a crap explore. Sometimes a chance game where a successful explore (dice roll with a high level of failure pretty much) can leave one player really pissed off and the rest feeling awkward that they are really into how their colonies are doing, so there might be some balance issues with the game there. The sympathizer and pacifist secret mission things increase the "semi" bit quite a lot.

  • @foyoGames
    @foyoGames 7 лет назад +7

    this gaming session was pretty ackward ...was glad I played as the traitor

  • @matthewmcneany
    @matthewmcneany 5 лет назад +4

    Only copy of this I could find in the UK was £350

  • @314per
    @314per 6 лет назад +6

    This is a great review, but I am surprised you liked Archipelago so much. The central mechanic means that any player can force a tie by behaving badly (barring the unlikely event of someone having the Sympathizer card). I don't think I've ever had a more anticlimactic experience playing a board game.

    • @fy8798
      @fy8798 5 лет назад +10

      Not a tie - a loss.

  • @matejzganec6183
    @matejzganec6183 3 месяца назад

    most underrated boardgame of all time?

  • @DrMFoster7
    @DrMFoster7 4 года назад +3

    Rare to see Paul being the annoying one.

  • @ADKearney2112
    @ADKearney2112 7 лет назад +6

    I love this game. It doesn't get played enough.

  • @drewbauer9721
    @drewbauer9721 7 лет назад +9

    Quinn's hair is too well groomed in this episode

  • @elios4592
    @elios4592 2 года назад

    I have a bit of a love hate relationship with this game. I love the material, the tiles are fantastic, and even though I've had it for 4 years, I like to bring out archipelago once or twice a year for a game. And yet every time I play it I get a certain frustration, I hate the randomness of exploration, which causes some to end up with crappy tiles while others have monopolies over precious resources. I hate the abrupt way every game ends, when you get cut right in the middle of your strategy because a player who you haven't even paid attention to has finished his objectives. Archipelago is an incredible game, that makes you dream at its start and leave you alone with your bitterness at the end, and still I continue to play it again and again.

  • @russman738
    @russman738 6 месяцев назад +2

    No, not offensive.

  • @andycollins6148
    @andycollins6148 4 года назад

    I like this game!

  • @miro375
    @miro375 2 года назад

    Why Paul hits Quin?

  • @drewbauer9721
    @drewbauer9721 7 лет назад +2

    Uploaded one minute ago nice

  • @thelastmotel
    @thelastmotel 2 года назад

    Love Archipelago. Shame the "spiritual successor" to it was bollocks.

  • @TheMagicianLiam
    @TheMagicianLiam 5 лет назад +2

    Getting wood.

  • @apertotes
    @apertotes 5 лет назад +2

    We have played 5 times. We have ended 1 short game (the first we played), that lasted about 2 hours and was enjoyable but felt incomplete. Many buildings were built and were barely used because the game ended too quickly.
    The other 4 games ended in less than 30 minutes because nobody wanted to contribute to crisis. Only in one of those games was the sympathizer role in play.
    It's one of the biggest gaming disappointments of the last five years for us.
    In contrast, we enjoy immensely every game of Batllestar Galactica, another game of hidden roles and semi-cooperation.

    • @jergarmar
      @jergarmar 5 лет назад +3

      If 80% of the time your games ends in rebellion... yeah, that might not be a good fit for your group. That sounds like a group NOT interested in the negotiation portion of this game.

  • @chain-wallet
    @chain-wallet 6 лет назад +2

    sometime su&sd is just plain weird

  • @stumbling
    @stumbling 3 года назад +1

    It's pronounced "Archie Pergola".

  • @matt_selby
    @matt_selby 3 года назад +7

    Just popped in to say it's ok to be a white maple.

  • @erfanashkan5925
    @erfanashkan5925 5 лет назад +2

    the barbaric card makes me uncomfortable

  • @TheGullywully
    @TheGullywully 6 лет назад

    ruclips.net/video/KeHUkmd_T1s/видео.htmlm15s Quinn's or Paul's tea?

  • @massfarmer818
    @massfarmer818 2 года назад +1

    Daddies so young

  • @ForgottenNoble
    @ForgottenNoble 3 года назад +6

    More offensive the better

  • @legolasegb
    @legolasegb 3 года назад +9

    lol, every board game abstracts from the ugly side. Gaia Project never addresses the planets you terraform. Axis & Allies doesn't touch on Unit 731 or what the Red Army did in Berlin. Brass doesn't touch on the horrible living conditions of the factory workers. Village doesn't address child mortality.
    It's kind of cringe to hear people make a big deal out of today's-trendy-to-be-outraged-about-stuff. Lots of war games and horrible things happen in board games, but people aren't endorsing any of it! If you fight as Germany in WWII, how would you do it? That's an interesting question to explore tactically, but please, get off your soap box. No one is saying WWII should have happened.

  • @musagetes23
    @musagetes23 7 лет назад

    Love you guys, but please stop re-releasing old videos! It makes me think you're done filming new content forever every time I see a notification and it's a review I've already watched several times.

    • @shutupandsitdown
      @shutupandsitdown  7 лет назад +44

      For RUclips to make sense we really have to have all our videos here. It's a big job so not happening over night. Some people also seem to enjoy the trip down memory lane, and lots of folks are finding these videos for the first time. This playlist is for you! ruclips.net/p/PLuhACAvGwzxe-PztXhNpcmNZxLzhVel3S

    • @musagetes23
      @musagetes23 7 лет назад +3

      Oh gosh, thanks! I'm glad to get a reply from you, and even more glad to know about this playlist. Appreciate it!

    • @go_rilla262
      @go_rilla262 6 лет назад +8

      Not to mention those who just discovered SU&SD, like myself. Love the channel, thanks for the new releases and golden oldies. It's all new to me!

  • @StuartHetzler
    @StuartHetzler 4 года назад +11

    gotta love the crippling white guilt that so many board game review channels have.

    • @MarcusTullman
      @MarcusTullman 4 года назад +17

      StewieSwan They briefly mentioned the thematic issue and said they were fine with it and moved on ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ hardly crippling

    • @thelastmotel
      @thelastmotel 2 года назад +1

      This video wwas from 2013 originally. They are much more ridden with the white guilt now than they were when they filmed this. Their review of Chinatown was atrocious because of it. Gotta love people who go around being offended on behalf of other people, especially when those other people aren't offended.

    • @Keesvanloomacklin
      @Keesvanloomacklin Год назад +4

      It’s exhausting to constantly have to prostrate one’s self at the ‘Altar of Apology’ of some sort or another at the extreme end; or, at the other end like here, still have to make an aside for it no matter how brief.

  • @Sith90lord
    @Sith90lord 4 года назад +8

    the apologetic start to the video is annoying -_-
    it's a game ffs.

    • @theoneandonlyjs19
      @theoneandonlyjs19 4 года назад +13

      Criticism of things that you enjoy is important and understandable to everyone above the age of 12

    • @phxcppdvlazi
      @phxcppdvlazi 3 года назад +11

      games inform attitudes and attitudes inform society. it is just a game, but it's part of our culture. there's no need for you to get offended, the point is simply to remain mindful of the past.

    • @Keesvanloomacklin
      @Keesvanloomacklin Год назад

      I love watching this channel, but it’s funny to me how games I really like are the ones they’re luke-warm on or don’t even like themselves; but then, a game like this, which doesn’t appeal to me at all, they rave about. Ah, different strokes I guess.

    • @cazmaestro
      @cazmaestro Год назад +5

      The problem is, some people may play this game and due to personal ties with particular events, may not enjoy or feel upset by the depictions and artwork in the game. A review site like this is to inform people about the game and whether they will enjoy it or not. Them informing us that there are certain themes in the game and that it may not appeal to all is good information to have so we can decide whether we're going to buy it or not.
      Obviously it hasn't affected your decision, but others may feel differently. And it's just 10-20 seconds of a video that you have to sit through.