Joey Sturgis, Kris Crummett, or Cameron Mizzell lol. Kris does Dance Gavin Dance & bands like that, while Cameron did Sleeping With Sirens & bands like that. Those 3 dudes were the real voices of an entire generation lol. Kris in particular is a really nice, cool dude.
I love how Joey is obviously not full of himself yet doesn't feel the need to downplay his accomplishments. He seems like a humble guy that also has no problem owning the contributions he has made. Rare to see someone like that.
Long-time fan of his recordings, but had never listened to an interview. Not sure what I was expecting, but not necessarily this. What a great interview with lots of great insights from Joey. Thanks!
My high school band recorded our demo with Joey back in 06 and it still holds up today. Great interview and always cool to see his success. Wish we hadn’t done the bass drops on every song tho lol
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA only one per song for us so it was amateur hour lol he ain’t kidding about chain smoking tho. Several of us did as well and I remember barely being able to keep my eyes open from the smoke in that garage🤣
Dude this is awesome. Finn, you’re passion and enthusiasm for music is incredible. Joey,I grew up to numerous albums your produced and let me tell you, you’re recording style was mind blowing. At age 31 now, I can safely say not one day of work has ever as “fun” as listening to HTML Rules DOOD, with your buddies for the first time,. And freaking the fuck out. Always loved your style and recordings. Thank you for this interview to both of you, and much love. Take care guys Edit- forgot to say in 07-2011, had a Subaru Outback with Eclipse 5 channel amp, JL audio w0 10 inch sub, eclipse head unit, and mbquart speakers. Asking Alexandria and attack attack sounded NASTY in the Subaru. Again, thanks for this video and drive back to memory lane
Joey basically defined my teens with the bands he produced; you could always hear the mark he left on the bands he worked with. Also, hearing him bring up the current state of copyright in the RUclips scene is beautiful. Papa Bless, Joey! 🙏
Growing up between my cousin and forums I never really had a respect for Joey Sturgis but after this interview I find myself with my jaw on the ground. What a legend. I feel so bad for never really seeing how influential and what a trailblazer he really is. I’m so happy for him and his success he truly has earned it and I can’t wait to see what else he has in store for the future! Thanks for doing this Flynn
32:13 Really love this interview (came here from the short you released couple days ago). During the aughts I was caught up and focused on electronic music I sort of lost touch with the rock/metal world. Lamb of God & Killswitch were the only two bands I kept tabs on. So it's cool to hear perspective on a time and a scene that I wasn't really a part of, but from a producer's perspective.
I cant believe he sat there and made thousands of little clips and manipulated every sound to his will, I've done stuff similar to that so I know what its like to sit there and move things and clip, but not to his extent and i always thought, is this overkill? But no no no i wasnt doing it enough! Truly inspiring. Even working on tdwp kick drum for FIVE days straight just the KICK DRUM is truly remarkable and shows the dedication you need to have to be THE BEST
I gotta say that as someone who has no knowledge of the music industry or what goes into recording an album, I found this to be a very fascinating interview! Some of the technical stuff went over my head, but I loved when you guys talked about “just find a way”.
Joey for sure had a big impact on music during that time. As an engineer myself, I am the guy that hits play and keeps it (for the most part) to try to keep it sounding as human as possible. Joey cuts and edits his music to the point it sounds inhuman and it works for the bands he is recording. I grew up listening to 60-80s music being thrown on to tape with all its flaws giving it tons of character. Huge respect for the guy for having that much attention to make something sound perfect to the ears.
I'm pretty sure this kid is from my home town connersville Indiana his dad was good guitar player and him mom was a singer looks just like them if it's same kid this is awesome to see him making name for himself
You gotta get into all the writing Joey did for those early bands next time. Especially post production like synths and keys and vocal harmonies etc. His melodic contribution is really an underrated part of his role in the development of his sounds and career
I spent some time in a studio doing drum edits: tab to transient in protools for hours. It makes me so glad I make electronic music. I feel like once you start editing drums like that, you might as well use drum software.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA i get that back when Joey started, there was no drum software so you had to. With modern drum software, I don't think many people could tell the difference
Wow I remember me and my friends IMMEDIATELY noticed the more on time drums on Prada's WRAABB album! We thought like wow the drummer got way better but its hilarious now to learn that on the first album there was no click track and that on the second album it was more edited haha!!
I know this is kind of old, but just getting a chance to watch, I have to say I 100% agree thT while a band is recording in a studio with a professional producer they are certainly a member of the band while they are recording. How much the producer guides the songs, helps with mixing and matching parts, and so much other stuff, then the editing and mixing... yeah...
I record acoustic drums. The process of time aligning everything sucks and is so tedious. Joey is crazy for doing it so often. I love when it all comes out in the end though. I also own every JST plug-in.. they just work!
What a chill guy, saying that i would like to hear a Joey Sturgis edition of Alaska from between the buried and me, can imagine some mad edits on the intro with the sweet picking guitars. If the attila track he put forward as his peak in his mind then i can dig it, that song had people so divided because how in your face it is with its message i love it though.
At 23:07 is pretty interesting, cuz in one way it's "cheating", as some people would say, but it's also a shit tonne of work. No pressing of a magic button.
This was a great video, really informative, but also really depressing. Cause it reminded me that my dreams are never gonna come true. Listening to what Joey went through, and realizing I’ll never have the same opportunities is just really demotivating.
I admire JS for his drive and can appreciate the time spent doing what he does/did editing drums, but I can't say I'm a fan of any of the bands he's worked with and after listening to the stuff he worked on just to have a fresh take on it, damn does everything feel sterile and gridded to hell and back, the 4 or 5 bands that i listened to have the most drab boring drum sound I've heard, I'm so glad that he didn't sterilize Spiritbox. And I think there is a big difference between things like time alignment and autotune/pitch correction vs EQ, compression and things like that is that time alignment and pitch correction changes the performance and input from the musician, EQ, compression, mic placement just change how you hear that performance, gridding the shit out of drum hits and making sure every note is perfect pitch takes the human element out and leaves the music pretty fucking lifeless, and bland, and could argue is the reason most modern metal feels so cookie cutter. again props to him being as dedicated to what he thinks metal should sound like, but definitely a fundamental difference between opinions.
I played with Gwen Stacy at chain reaction a bunch of times. I never really liked cole cause he was kind of a douche but Geoff was a kick ass dude. We’d get drunk on top of their “tour bus” before we were supposed to play. I remember being so hot from being drunk I would take off all my clothes down to my underwear while on stage. I’d still be so sweaty the damn pick would fall out of my hands. It was pretty cool though playing barefoot on the cramped ass stage at chain, like you were channeling all the blood, sweat, tears, and saliva that were soaked into its wood floor by the musical godfathers and heroes that once stood. Some of the best times I ever had.
Best shows: - Slipknot 2001 - Tool (x2) 2006 - Motörhead 2013 - Rammstein 2013 Since I quit weed, I find it hard to give a shit about Tool. I was a massive stoner back then and they were the ideal accompanying band.
I obsessed over Joey’s work as a teenager. This interview is amazing.
The man, the myth, and the legend himself.
Sixth member of Asking Alexandria
@@untitled568 he’s the unofficial n-th member of a lot of Metalcore/Pop Punk/ Scene Warped Tour bands then lol
@@Wisconsin222 Some people just like to be everywhere.. Travis Barker for example
My first warped tour in 2010 I realized that EVERY band was produced by JS. This man defined a generation with his sound.
Joey Sturgis, Kris Crummett, or Cameron Mizzell lol. Kris does Dance Gavin Dance & bands like that, while Cameron did Sleeping With Sirens & bands like that. Those 3 dudes were the real voices of an entire generation lol. Kris in particular is a really nice, cool dude.
Whoa whoa whoa ... Let's be real. Jon Feldman?!
Man Joey is more important to the Metalcore scene than any of the bands
@michael B you are blind sunny
@michael B
Apologies for the weak, stand up and scream wouldn't be the same without Sturgis
Finn Mcdjenting in a colored room, this is a sick interview so far
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA FINN MCDJENTY that one made me lol XD
Finn got to get a 3rd channel named that lol
Love this content. Would be great to get more interviews with music producers. Will Putney would be amazing!
He's such a mastermind, his vision for metalcore really defined the whole scene with that crisp breakdown sound. What a god!!!
Joey out here making albums in C++
I love how Joey is obviously not full of himself yet doesn't feel the need to downplay his accomplishments. He seems like a humble guy that also has no problem owning the contributions he has made. Rare to see someone like that.
Great interview. I had no idea he had so many other business ventures, the dude is a visionary. Nothing but respect and admiration for him.
Long-time fan of his recordings, but had never listened to an interview. Not sure what I was expecting, but not necessarily this. What a great interview with lots of great insights from Joey. Thanks!
How does this not have more views. He is LEGENDARY
Joey Sturgis is synonymous to top fucking tier metalcore/post-hardcore. Thank you for this interview!
My high school band recorded our demo with Joey back in 06 and it still holds up today. Great interview and always cool to see his success. Wish we hadn’t done the bass drops on every song tho lol
Bass drop in every measure is the only true path
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA only one per song for us so it was amateur hour lol he ain’t kidding about chain smoking tho. Several of us did as well and I remember barely being able to keep my eyes open from the smoke in that garage🤣
is that demo on spotify?
@@lastlettersny unfortunately no but I’d be happy to email the mp3s to you if you like. The band is Some Came Running
@@expendedelectricity Ah I feel like I came across you guys on Myspace!
Dude this is awesome. Finn, you’re passion and enthusiasm for music is incredible. Joey,I grew up to numerous albums your produced and let me tell you, you’re recording style was mind blowing. At age 31 now, I can safely say not one day of work has ever as “fun” as listening to HTML Rules DOOD, with your buddies for the first time,. And freaking the fuck out. Always loved your style and recordings. Thank you for this interview to both of you, and much love. Take care guys
Edit- forgot to say in 07-2011, had a Subaru Outback with Eclipse 5 channel amp, JL audio w0 10 inch sub, eclipse head unit, and mbquart speakers. Asking Alexandria and attack attack sounded NASTY in the Subaru. Again, thanks for this video and drive back to memory lane
It's pretty wild that this man is responsible for our favorite metal core Albums of the past decade!! Great interview.
Joey basically defined my teens with the bands he produced; you could always hear the mark he left on the bands he worked with. Also, hearing him bring up the current state of copyright in the RUclips scene is beautiful. Papa Bless, Joey! 🙏
This man defined my high school era
Growing up between my cousin and forums I never really had a respect for Joey Sturgis but after this interview I find myself with my jaw on the ground. What a legend. I feel so bad for never really seeing how influential and what a trailblazer he really is. I’m so happy for him and his success he truly has earned it and I can’t wait to see what else he has in store for the future! Thanks for doing this Flynn
I remember watching the old attack attack studio updates with Joey. Crazy how time flies
32:13 Really love this interview (came here from the short you released couple days ago). During the aughts I was caught up and focused on electronic music I sort of lost touch with the rock/metal world. Lamb of God & Killswitch were the only two bands I kept tabs on. So it's cool to hear perspective on a time and a scene that I wasn't really a part of, but from a producer's perspective.
I cant believe he sat there and made thousands of little clips and manipulated every sound to his will, I've done stuff similar to that so I know what its like to sit there and move things and clip, but not to his extent and i always thought, is this overkill? But no no no i wasnt doing it enough! Truly inspiring. Even working on tdwp kick drum for FIVE days straight just the KICK DRUM is truly remarkable and shows the dedication you need to have to be THE BEST
So glad i clicked on this since conquer divide is my all time favorite band 🙏🏻 love hearing of progress!
Cool interview, thanks! I would be very curious to hear what a Spiritbox/Joey collab would bring :)
He has great drum sample packs that I use! Awesome interview!
I don’t make music at all but this guy’s experience is inspiring.
fantastic interview Finn!!!
01:23:52 Lights has colab-ed with Deadmau5 a few times. Interesting style!
Super inspirational interview thanks so much.
"Where there is great success there is great sacrifice" Awesome.
I gotta say that as someone who has no knowledge of the music industry or what goes into recording an album, I found this to be a very fascinating interview! Some of the technical stuff went over my head, but I loved when you guys talked about “just find a way”.
11:47 lol i had a page on soundclick. i actually knew the two guys that started it...
What a gem of an interview, lots of insight gained here
Ohhhh very interesting interview.. Didn't know I needed this :D
Don't ever stop, Finn bro. This is so inspiring❤
Joey for sure had a big impact on music during that time. As an engineer myself, I am the guy that hits play and keeps it (for the most part) to try to keep it sounding as human as possible. Joey cuts and edits his music to the point it sounds inhuman and it works for the bands he is recording. I grew up listening to 60-80s music being thrown on to tape with all its flaws giving it tons of character. Huge respect for the guy for having that much attention to make something sound perfect to the ears.
The big boss of multi tasking and metalcore 🔥🔥🔥
Kudos to Finn without a unnecessary intro & straight to the interview at the start of the video!!!
I really appreciate you bring back the podcast over youtube because I have youtube premium, and you guys look beautiful...
GOAT interview. GOAT interviewer. Loved this episode
This interview opened my eyes
omg...nerding out about hypercard? i have come to the right place! we also used to do our own "games" with aldus super paint and hypercard.
Also, thank you for the interview, Finn!
I will now listen to Gwen Stacey all week. Love that band. Thanx for putting them in my mind again hahaha
Idk how i never knew he lived so close to my area 😂 that’s crazy as hell
I'm pretty sure this kid is from my home town connersville Indiana his dad was good guitar player and him mom was a singer looks just like them if it's same kid this is awesome to see him making name for himself
Yep thats him!
New CONQUER DIVIDE album?! Fuck yeah! Thank you, Joey! :)
I didnt start understanding music Production until I started watching joey and using his plugins.
This man produced the sound track of my young adult life lol
Great interview
You gotta get into all the writing Joey did for those early bands next time. Especially post production like synths and keys and vocal harmonies etc. His melodic contribution is really an underrated part of his role in the development of his sounds and career
Great interview. I would love to see an interview with illustrator/designer, Rob Dobi. He has a large body of work with some great bands.
I spent some time in a studio doing drum edits: tab to transient in protools for hours. It makes me so glad I make electronic music. I feel like once you start editing drums like that, you might as well use drum software.
Yep why even record shells?
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA i get that back when Joey started, there was no drum software so you had to. With modern drum software, I don't think many people could tell the difference
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA probably bruise some drummer egos though
Joey seems so awesome and easy to work with
Man you always get great people!
Awesome interview. He is incredibly intelligent.
Wow I remember me and my friends IMMEDIATELY noticed the more on time drums on Prada's WRAABB album! We thought like wow the drummer got way better but its hilarious now to learn that on the first album there was no click track and that on the second album it was more edited haha!!
My bro was a MTG cardboard slinger!! Nice!!
I know this is kind of old, but just getting a chance to watch, I have to say I 100% agree thT while a band is recording in a studio with a professional producer they are certainly a member of the band while they are recording. How much the producer guides the songs, helps with mixing and matching parts, and so much other stuff, then the editing and mixing... yeah...
Shout out to His family
I record acoustic drums. The process of time aligning everything sucks and is so tedious. Joey is crazy for doing it so often. I love when it all comes out in the end though. I also own every JST plug-in.. they just work!
What a chill guy, saying that i would like to hear a Joey Sturgis edition of Alaska from between the buried and me, can imagine some mad edits on the intro with the sweet picking guitars. If the attila track he put forward as his peak in his mind then i can dig it, that song had people so divided because how in your face it is with its message i love it though.
Would love to see u interview Sam Pura. One of the best producers/recordists in the bay area.
Yep i know him well!
Omg, Quake II 🖤He's the Carmack of metalcore 🔥
At 23:07 is pretty interesting, cuz in one way it's "cheating", as some people would say, but it's also a shit tonne of work. No pressing of a magic button.
Repping Michigan! Hell yeah!
Did he record chiodos too back in the day?
He reminds me so much of Buster Bluth 😅
"The kick drums loud as fuck!"
**Google fi ad drum fill plays**
/Yep!
He recorded The Color Morale that lived 40 mins from me. I want to know his opinion on Steve Carey's drumming
Great interview, thanks guys!
Yoooo, it's the drum dude! Your content bangs 🤘
Joey = GOAT
This was a great video, really informative, but also really depressing. Cause it reminded me that my dreams are never gonna come true. Listening to what Joey went through, and realizing I’ll never have the same opportunities is just really demotivating.
Yeaaaaahhhh
What about Jon Feldman? Can we get an interview
But it makes you sound good
I would say Steven slate started it
Why did your notification bell get shut off it's back on now but Hmmm.
There's my permission to REALLY GRIND!
I admire JS for his drive and can appreciate the time spent doing what he does/did editing drums, but I can't say I'm a fan of any of the bands he's worked with and after listening to the stuff he worked on just to have a fresh take on it, damn does everything feel sterile and gridded to hell and back, the 4 or 5 bands that i listened to have the most drab boring drum sound I've heard, I'm so glad that he didn't sterilize Spiritbox.
And I think there is a big difference between things like time alignment and autotune/pitch correction vs EQ, compression and things like that is that time alignment and pitch correction changes the performance and input from the musician, EQ, compression, mic placement just change how you hear that performance, gridding the shit out of drum hits and making sure every note is perfect pitch takes the human element out and leaves the music pretty fucking lifeless, and bland, and could argue is the reason most modern metal feels so cookie cutter.
again props to him being as dedicated to what he thinks metal should sound like, but definitely a fundamental difference between opinions.
100% agree.
Ah myspace. The days when you didn't have to fight to catch an algorithm on social media.
Think he was part of the early kramus and fadeaway days
No mention of Ben W., seriously Finn???
1:19:29 is perfection haha.
Bring on Kris Crummett!!!
616 Grand Rapids!!!
41:00
I played with Gwen Stacy at chain reaction a bunch of times. I never really liked cole cause he was kind of a douche but Geoff was a kick ass dude. We’d get drunk on top of their “tour bus” before we were supposed to play. I remember being so hot from being drunk I would take off all my clothes down to my underwear while on stage. I’d still be so sweaty the damn pick would fall out of my hands. It was pretty cool though playing barefoot on the cramped ass stage at chain, like you were channeling all the blood, sweat, tears, and saliva that were soaked into its wood floor by the musical godfathers and heroes that once stood. Some of the best times I ever had.
Best shows:
- Slipknot 2001
- Tool (x2) 2006
- Motörhead 2013
- Rammstein 2013
Since I quit weed, I find it hard to give a shit about Tool. I was a massive stoner back then and they were the ideal accompanying band.
Finn looks like mr clean
Hello?
completely off topic,
Rouri404 though
The charisma of a tree stump
First
…and people wonder why every band starts to sound exactly the same. lol.
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