I agree with you 100%......I am old enough to know Nique was amazing. Over 26,000 points scored is not from dunks. One of the most underrated players ever. JJ reDICK was a role player at best and not even born when Nique was in the league
Dominique - my favorite player of all time. I used to wear Pony Sneakers when I played HS Basketball. When I graduated college the Hawks were on TNT and TBS a good bit and that just made my end of day to watch him. Great guy and class act.
He really is a great guy. Always positive toward everyone. Gives respect to players of all generations (from Russell/Chamberlain/West/Big to Bird/Magic/King/Isiah/Dr. J/Barkley/MG to Shaq/Duncan/Robinson/Drexler/Olajuwon to Kobe/Miller/Nash/Dirk/Webber/ right on up to today and especially to those he had to battle himself. Never craps on people. Always gives credit. Assumes best intentions. The way he validated McClung at the dunk context, giving him a hug. I mean, this was the frickin Human Highlight Film, slamdunk contest winner, a big-time in-game dunker, who stood up for the G-League kid. Dominique is a man's man and a truly decent person.
Can you see Redick making a trip into the lane against Bird-Parrish-McHale or Rambis-Kareem-Worthy-Cooper or The Bad Boys, and coming out unscathed? Nope, me neither. Because, you know, physicality.
MaHale PF 6-10 210, Robert Parish C 7- 230lb, Larry Bird SF 6-9 220, Kurt Rambis PF 6-8 213lb, James Worthy SF 6-9 225lbs, Micheal Cooper SG 6-7 170lbs vs. James Harden 6-5 220lb, Luka 6-7 230lb, Ben Simmons 6-10 240lb, Lebron James 6-9 250lb, Kevin Durant 6-10 240lb, Nikola Jokic 6-11 284lb.
@@1teela If you saw a play like that today it would make national news and there would be a debate about "legislation" to stop it. Back then that was how basketball was played from the playground to the NBA.
Back in the 80s and 90s there were REAL rivalries where teams and players truly despised each other and you could feel the tension through the TV screen. Those games were so much fun to watch. Todays NBA is not fun to watch at all.
@@hitek9too255 The Lakers and Celtics set the table that the Jordan era would fully capitalize on and when the Dream Team happened the NBA went global in a way that nobody could've ever imagined but Magic and Bird were the springboard for that. There were still some good 80's teams though. The Bucks, 76ers, Pistons, Hawks, and Rockets had some good teams but the Lakers and Celtics were absolutely stacked beyond belief. They would still dominate to this day.
"Now" NBA sucks! It all started when it's OK for any player to chuck a three pointer no matter what the situation is. Even during a fastbreak! NBA thought they will attract more people in stadiums by prioritizing scoring vs overall play like defense, rebounding, etc.. It turned many people off! I'm turned off by the quality of play I'm witnessing in every NBA game!
@@hitek9too255 i mean literally... lakers vs celtics, celtics vs philly, lakers vs detroit, celtics vs detroit, Bulls vs detroit, bulls vs knicks, bulls vs cavs, knicks vs heat, knicks vs pacers, spurs vs suns, bulls vs utah...... like seriously explain yourself.... and im leaving out a tonnn
When it mattered most...Most game-winners (last minute) of All-Time: #1) Kobe = 26 (in 1346 games) #2) Jordan = 25 (in 1072 games) #3) Bird. = 24 (in 897 games) #4) LeBron = 19 (in 1366 games) ... However, when it came to overall game-winners ratio, here are the best of All-Time: #1) Bird = 2.67 #2) Jordan = 2.33 #3) Kobe 1.93 #4) LeBron = 1.39
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) #1) Jordan = 44.7 #2) LeBron = 44.4 #3) Bird = 43.1 #4) Kareem = 42.9 Curry is #31 with 37.5 That's just to put things into to perspective
JJ Redick is really annoying me. He's sounding more and more like the media guys he speaks about. Lol. Get that man a clown mask because he's part of that group! Lmao.
Only diff is, TRUE media would never disrespect Larry Bird like this. Stephen A. Was about to back Maddog but (for once) he couldn’t get a word in edge-wise lol 😱 ruclips.net/video/yfy42pYBhcg/видео.html
@@NBAHistoryCLNS Yeah - they have a chance to do legitimate sports commentary, but they are selling out for click-bait and cheapening themselves. Both Stephen A and Redick likely know better, but they seem to prefer to be TV trolls.
1st off, nobody should be taking redick seriously, or listening to a word he says. 2nd, the growing trend of disrespect toward prior eras & players needs to stop. preach dominique ❤
Reddick is jealous. He's butt hurt about the league being labeled soft now. IT IS! It really hurts his feelings to be thought of as soft because he played in a soft era, Oh, and he's soft. It's just sad pathetic and common playa hate.
Facts. Even someone like me who started watching basketball in the early 2000’s and I still know how insane Larry Legend was. First JJ shits on Jerry west and now he shits on Bird? It makes no sense.
@@77amitd Yep, the whole "new media" thing....which is basically: Never ask tough questions, let players do whatever they want and continually ride their nuts.
What? Players today get disrespected today way more than old eras. How often do you hear people say the “game is soft”, I would average 40 etc. Also JJ was saying that Steph gets abused off the ball in a way Bird didn’t. Either way the physicality is way overstated in previous eras
I don’t ever remember curry breaking his cheek in a game then finishing the same game. Players now get a sprain ankle and they are out for half the damn season.
@@OzhullHockey players make millions and routinely play w broken jaws, fractures etc. Basketball has became soft in this generation due to people like Popovich implementing load management. It set a horrible precedent which resulted in a domino effect
Thankyou Dominique... it drives me crazy when people that were not there think they can compare the physicality to today's game. It's not comparable.. obviously you played it... but when I was at those games in the stands.. I got scared for you guys.. because all of you were warriors and didn't give an inch... especially in the paint was incredibly brutal..
It’s crazy how insecure and defensive old heads are about basketball from the 80s and 90s. JJ was only talking about getting 3 point shots off. It’s undoubtedly way harder for steph to get a 3 point shot off then Larry bird. JJ even admitted it was more physical in the paint mainly because no one guarded the 3 point line back then so there was more people around the basket but old heads again are so insecure and trying to preserve the basketball from that time it’s wild
@@mattsell2361 You're delusional Mj, Pippen, gary payton, Michael cooper would have hounded curry full court with physicality defense. He definitely wouldn't be casually shooting 3s wide open
@@hitek9too255 You kids born late 90s, 2000s are delusional lol.Curry would of gotten the toni kucok treatment. Payton/Pippen wouldve hounded him with full court pressure with hand checking so no petty touch fouls/flops to bail him out.
I miss those Celtics-Hawks games. Bird vs Nique and you knew it was gonna be good. Back then it was like playground ball compared to today. No blood, no foul. Redick got no idea.
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) #1) Jordan = 44.7 #2) LeBron = 44.4 #3) Bird = 43.1 #4) Kareem = 42.9 Curry is #31 with 37.5 That's just to put things into to perspective
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) #1) Jordan = 44.7 #2) LeBron = 44.4 #3) Bird = 43.1 #4) Kareem = 42.9 Curry is #31 with 37.5 That's just to put things into to perspective
You tell them Nique!! The ignorance of some of these so called basketball players is astounding. Would love to see him in a room with Bird for 5 minutes. Bird would abuse him verbally and make him run crying.
@@ssj-rose4572 the "GOAT" of Trashtalkers didnt talk? even Reggie Miller who was known as one of the best trashtalkers got whooped by Bird..! and Dr. J! one of the legends who was known cool, gotten into fistfight with Bird because of Bird's "friendly talk" with Dr.J!
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) #1) Jordan = 44.7 #2) LeBron = 44.4 #3) Bird = 43.1 #4) Kareem = 42.9 Curry is #31 with 37.5 That's just to put things into to perspective
@@Beantown6 Look a Kawhi Leonard and how much time he spends on the bench. I mean he gets a cramp and he's out for like two weeks or something like that. Makes me wonder if he actually wants to play basketball at all.
@@LonewolfmikeIt’s maddening. He’s so good, and so fun to watch, yet he plays half a season every year. I get the injury comeback, but that is behind him. I don’t understand what the owners or players are thinking. They are killing the product, in turn salaries will eventually be reduced due to declining profit. What network will want to keep showing games featuring bench players. They need to rethink this.
Bird was my favorite player. Nique was 2nd. Nique played that era and knows what he is talking about. I'll take it a step further.... Look at today's all star games vs back in the day. Moses Malone and them guys were playing for blood. No nights off.
@@Lonewolfmike I watched it live, and while I’ve seen superstars like Jordan, Kobe, Magic, and LeBron play at a level equal to Bird and ‘Nique in that game, I can’t recall ever seeing two play at that rare level head to head over such a long stretch, let alone the 4th quarter of a game 7. Me and my high school friends kept falling off the couch and screaming every time they shot because they simply couldn’t miss. It was truly heartbreaking a clock forced the ending to something so special. I could have watched that for hours
@@ktbeatty What can you say it is a classic in every sense of the word. Two great players leaving it all out on the floor. You can't do better than that.
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) #1) Jordan = 44.7 #2) LeBron = 44.4 #3) Bird = 43.1 #4) Kareem = 42.9 Curry is #31 with 37.5 That's just to put things into to perspective
I'm no pro...but I've literally told my own kids I used to hate playing basketball as a kid, being the smallest of my friends because the game was way more physical than it is now. I used to get banged around like a ping pong ball. The game is way softer compared to the 80s and 90s
exactly same here it's way easier to score . I been hanchecked especially against someone bigger than you ,I was faster but I could even get past the guy I had to settle for a jumpshot
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) #1) Jordan = 44.7 #2) LeBron = 44.4 #3) Bird = 43.1 #4) Kareem = 42.9 Curry is #31 with 37.5 That's just to put things into to perspective
Basketball is literally one of the least physical sports. I played soccer and when I played basketball the first thing I said notice was how soft the sport itself is. I’ve been to the most unsanctioned games, with guys who have physical gifts and I still walk away thinking how soft this sport is. Basketball regardless of era isnt a sport that hurts. You just might be weak
Lmao. Nice one man. Speaking of the ASG did you watch the game last week? Literally zero defense until the final minute. Not even half ass defense. Why even play the game if you’re not gonna try the minimum? I watched the game as a comedy. Every trip down the court was a wide open 3. Much like the actual real games. They started trying to match each others half court shots. Shaq sarcastically made a comment saying he hopes they take 10 half court shots in a row. Just a garbage product.
Back then you had to be physical just to make space. Now the space is just provided. I love Kyries ability to finish but he doesn’t get touched. Back then most of his drives he would be on the floor. Just ask iverson. That man lived on the floor and he was way quicker than Kyrie
True dat. Isiah made an interesting comment back in the day saying that they couldn't ball handle the ball as fancy as today because the defensive physicality wouldn't allow that. You were actually limited by what you could do because of that physicality.
"Bro we have less body fat" that's basically their position in a nutshell. They claim to be more "athletic and skilled" we have no way of knowing if they are more skilled its pure conjecture. The 3 point shooting is better these days that's about it. But that's due to a stylistic choice of coaches, one that basically gutted the IQ of the average player as well. Now you have guys passing out for the open 3 rather than take an open layup. Completely psycho. And so they only really have the "athletic" argument. Are they stronger? Lifting heavier weights? Do we have combine type stats? They're just thinner on average. The average player is more cut. More fit in terms of nutrition and lifestyle. That's about it. They aren't significantly faster and stronger.
It's also the modern fans. I haven't watched basketball in a very long time, but I'm an avid boxing fan. The sheer lack of respect modern fans show towards boxers of the past is disgusting. I understand that they want to claim that they were around when the "best fighters fought", but it's a total lack of understanding of the sport. Never show a lack of respect to athletes in the past just to try and make yourself feel better. Good comment.
I have also been disappointed in JJ Redick, I would have thought he was someone who understood the game, but he has really let some moronic statements fly recently. Also, he seems to be participating in this disrespect towards previous eras in order to try to boost up the current players, which is sad to see.
He got a job because he's a lebron fanboy just like Perkins and the majority of workers on ESPN they're hired to tear down legends and big up lebron plain and simple
Dominique is my 2nd favorite player. I know most talk about Jordan and his dunking skills but to me Dominique was that guy. He looked so fluid and had the perfect body composition for basketball and he had so much power behind his dunks. Clyde Drexler was the same way when he took jumpshots, just pure perfection.
"You really don't know do you?" Man if JJ made a disrespectful statement like that as a player in the 80s, Bird would have put up 50 on him, and talked shit to him the entire time. These players nowadays don't understand what it's like to be humbled.
JJ is a perfect example of the change in the NBA, he came into he league at 22... 6.0 ppg , 2nd season 4.5 ppg.... 3rd season 6.0...... then all of a sudden, the league starts to change and he numbers go up to his career highs of 18 ppg at 35 !!!! he made his living on the league being soft!! he will fight tooth and nail to keep you from understand how soft it really is!
Guys like Redick and Jay Williams in these sports shows are mind boggling. How much have they done to think of themselves as "experts" when they open their mouths. It's not Dominique being an "old head" it's just him knowing the game and he is someone who actually played the game at a high level.
@@penkima4923 Please Wilkens had to go through Bird and was the main man....Reddick was an after thought with a jumper and was carried , yet he still had no rings I don't believe?
@@penkima4923 Are you seriously comparing Reddick and Wilkins because Reddick was in more playoff games? That's about as dumb as saying Horry is better than Jordan because he has more rings.
@@blachloch1 No rings. But he made a finals appearance. Nique conference semi. The opening comment reads Nique has actually played at a high level. Whether that means playoff runs, skill or responsibility it doesn't make sense. JJ is top-20 in 3-pointers made and 3p%, all-time. And the main 3-point threat is an afterthought in today's game? Not the main man, but he's not carried either.
My Uncle worked in the Old Boston garden in the 70's and 80's, I went to countless games, even walked on the court before and after games. When Bird came into the league is in 70-80 was when the 3 was first implemented. Larry was the first forward to stretch thew game with the 3 period. His fade and turn around shot was nuts, along with his off the ball movement to create. The "86" Celtics averaged 3.5 3's per game while averaging 115ppg, because the Celtics could play any style!
Larry Bird is a legend. Bird made a player suffer and pay every time he shot that ball. He had deadly accuracy. He was a born shooter! No shame in his game.
Honestly I think its more so that they've mastered the craft of "say stupid shit" on the air in order to raise up their viewership numbers, and to have people talking about them. Sadly that's the only way you can have a career in media now days, and they want that career because their playing days are over. Gotta make money some how huh?
@@dagameplayer I think you nailed it. JJ is trying to be the new Skip or Stephen A. By saying controversial things that are basically click bait to get people talking. It’s the way of the world now but it’s ridiculously disrespectful to come at guys like Bird to boost up your likes.
@@dwigg7700 nah yall need to listen to what he actually said and JJs response to this. JJ actually knows the game incredibly well and made very valid points. The dude who asked the question completely misrepresented what JJ said.
Bird entered the NBA as a PF who had never shot a 3 pointer in his life and ended his career as one of 2 players ever to have multiple 50-40-90 seasons.
Most beautiful thing ever said. “It’s y’all time now beautiful and perfect. But don’t crap on us to try and feel good n prove ya greatness” If these special Ed guys were so confident and secure in y’all greatness they wouldn’t have to twist reality and downplay the greatness of other older eras that were the opposite of what their narratives say they are. Maybe it’s an emotional response for some of these JJ like guys listening to the wrong older guys crapping on their era but it’s the fault of whoever is spewing and listening to BS young or old for being unable to discern what’s truth and what’s hate and spewing their own fallacy and hate as a result of emotion
@@ghodge20flex even if an older guy started it, and what he said wasn’t just truth taken as hate but ACTUAL hate, then 2 wrongs never make a right and in this particular case it’s all JJ as no one here is dissing his particular era and I’m thinking maybe he was met with some type of hate earlier in his life but it’s not a sure thing at all in the case of jj just a possible thought of why he’s buggin so much, but yes if your saying your glad I’m keeping consistency on both sides then I’m glad u enjoyed that bruv
How can the league be more physical now when the game is played from the 3 point line now and not under the rim? Teams are averaging 39-40 3s a night now. Nobody is getting banged up under the rim like 80s basketball was played
Shout out to Dominique for doin' all windmills in that dunk contest. This man did a windmill each dunk attempt and the sh*t never got old cuz he was so ferocious wit' it...
When it mattered most...Most game-winners (last minute) of All-Time: #1) Kobe = 26 (in 1346 games) #2) Jordan = 25 (in 1072 games) #3) Bird. = 24 (in 897 games) #4) LeBron = 19 (in 1366 games) ... However, when it came to overall game-winners ratio, here are the best of All-Time: #1) Bird = 2.67 #2) Jordan = 2.33 #3) Kobe 1.93 #4) LeBron = 1.39
Wow JJ talking smack on Larry Bird, Larry Freaking Bird. He needs to brush up on his basketball history. There's not many players today who could deal with the physicality of 80s and 90s basketball. They wouldn't be getting any free layups like they get today I'll tell you that.
@Tyler Holt I have been watching the ACC tournament on the ACC channel. It covers the entire history of the tournament. Charlie Scott was the first black player at UNC. You could take him right out of that era and he would dominate this era. First off he is really tall for a guard( 6'5-6" tall. He had completely modern moves. Many guards were really big back then. Ainge was 6'5, Maravich was 6'5 Dennis Johnson was 6'4. All of these guys are as coordinated as players today. Go look at Charlie Scott's highlights. Worthy was 6'9 and he is as modern as anyone as was MJ. Ralph Sampson is more coordinated than Embid and Giannis and he is much taller than them.
It only started when the media was trying to convince the world lebron is great. They started taring down other players to build him up and looking at the game strictly from a stats POV😡🤦🏿♂️
No lies. Every time you blink, people shit on the past. "Not athletic. Low scoring games. They had to defend because they had no offensive game to speak of."
It's the reason players like kyrie Irving can get to the rim no matter what. When he can go any direction he wants and can just barrel through Defenders because they physically can't stop him, it makes it look easy. Defensive rules have ruined the game. kyrie would be good in any area, but instead of averaging 27. He'd average like 24. Not just in the 90s, but even in today's game players in general would be held in points.
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) #1) Jordan = 44.7 #2) LeBron = 44.4 #3) Bird = 43.1 #4) Kareem = 42.9 Curry is #31 with 37.5 That's just to put things into to perspective
Got to laugh at the young heads thinking they know the game better than people that ACTUALLY played in the era and now see how it is played and officiated present day. JJ Reddick better go back to duke and study because his hoop history IQ with the Bird comment is ZERO.
It’s crazy how insecure and defensive old heads are about basketball from the 80s and 90s. JJ was only talking about getting 3 point shots off. It’s undoubtedly way harder for steph to get a 3 point shot off then Larry bird. JJ even admitted it was more physical in the paint mainly because no one guarded the 3 point line back then so there was more people around the basket but old heads again are so insecure and trying to preserve the basketball from that time it’s wild
Matt sell That's the problem... We that were growing up in the 80s were there... It was man to man defense... The players guarded WHEREVER THERE MAN WAS.... If there man was at the three point line they guarded him.... You can go on You tube and fine many games that will show players not guarding guys at the three point line.... Especially in the early 80s, but as three point specialists started to rise, and Larry started to use it as a weapon they began to be guarded very closely.... Realize You tube doesn't have all 80s games or 90s but those of us that were there.... It just isn't true.... All 5 players wherever they were whether in the paint or not were guarding their man.... It got even more vicious in the 90s and God knows in the early 2000s! I am talking about guarding guys man to man at the 3 point line, paint or midrange... It didn't matter you were going to meet incredible PHYSICALITY!
@@brandonmartin7713 not to mention the fact that Larry had the ability to be very elusive. Once ge finally broke free of whoever happened to be grabbing and tugging on his shirt at that moment, he would get away as soon as they weren't looking and wind up open. When he was open for a three, it was because he caused himself to be open. Then he would tell his defender... "Hey I'm over here". Rodman even talked about that in detail
I have been watching the ACC tournament on the ACC channel. It covers the entire history of the tournament. Charlie Scott was the first black player at UNC. You could take him right out of that era and he would dominate this era. Fist off he is really tall for a guard( 6'5-6" tall. He had completely modern moves. Many guards were really big back then. Ainge was 6'5, Maravich was 6'5 Dennis Johnson was 6'4. All of these guys are as coordinated as players today. Go look at Charlie Scott's highlights. Worthy was 6'9 and he is as modern as anyone as was MJ. Ralph Sampson is more coordinated than Embid and Giannis and he is much taller than them.
JJ outed himself as a today's player apologist and utter moron to not see how today's game of 3's or dunk's has RUINED the nba for fans who loved it longer then 15 years..... I think JJ COULD take this criticism and learn from it, but critiquing YOURSELF as a human being is the hardest thing we can do. Here is hoping JJ Learns from it and takes the L of his current comment and stance.
Just like everyone else, people rush to comments to do the SAME THING that he’s doing in this video-speaking on someone without context…you haven’t even heard Redick’s comments. Go watch his video on this, and tell me if he’s out of line or disrespectful. Until then, save your time and energy, and stop speaking on something until you have heard all the details.
Your lack of knowledge is laughable I’m sure you didn’t even watch the whole clip so go home and try again kiddo and come back when you understand what the word context means
JJ can hold his own engaging the smartest basketball minds in conversation. He's getting constant coaching invitations. He played upwards of 10 seasons in the NBA as a short white guy. The man is smart, and that might be an understatement.
@@penkima4923 He is very smart. He's also becoming the thing everyone projected on him when he was at Duke; which I found unfair at the time. He's awfully haughty these days. He also seems to be doing this thing of trying too hard to future-proof all of his thoughts (to stay relevant and hip), by just assuming that all current analytics are gospel; it's guiding all of his thoughts like it's his sonar. There are plenty of analytics that we use today - or that they're wanting us to use today - that will be picked-apart over time. A lot of the older guard don't sound too sharp at times, but some of their points are correct, and today's analytics will have you believe that the game is evolving; rather than it's just trending (for now) in this current 3pt barrage era. The 3pt shot is here to stay, but basketball and the stats in this era are becoming meaningless. Lillard and Mitchell going off for 60, and Siakam for 50, or averaging 30ppg today, doesn't mean that much anymore.
JJ Redick is starting have to some awful takes similar to Ryan Hollins. Just because you can look at a dumb stat sheet or statistics, doesn't prove it valid by the eyeball test. We all know the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s was more physical than it is today. To stay these modern players could take that is dumb when they are complaining about guys touching them lightly. Dominque is definitely speaking fax
I think you are missing the context in Redick's argument. The whole point was arguing Larry Bird and Steph's 3 point ability and JJ was saying that in the 80s three's were uncontested while today Steph has to deal with guys guarding up and being more physical on threes. JJ never said that the 80s weren't more physical, he was saying that only 3's today are more physical.
Farhan Sarkar But even that is not true! It was man to man defense back then.... No zone allowed.... Because Larry became so feared shooting the three, he was held a lot before he could get open... Then he was touched up by bigs before he could get to his spots.... Now if you go back through you tube you will find games that don't show anything I said.....The reason is You tube doesn't have every Larry Bird game... You had to be in the 80s.. I first started watching in 85-86. When he was at the peak of his powers... I am from Detroit... Later in his career the Bad Boys did a job on Bird.... Laimbeer, Mahorn were brutal! Dennis Rodman would be all over bird... The regular season games and playoffs for Larry trying to get his shot off at the three was not a pretty picture.... Switching defense, drop coverage, and no hand checking has truly allowed Steph to nowhere COME CLOSE to experiencing the physicality that Bird experienced trying to get his shot off at the three point line or pretty much anywhere on the court... I forgot about their games against the 76ers in the early 80s... I have watched those games on You tube.... Boy were those games INTENSE! Hope you understand my point...
Wishful thinking, Ever wonder why Steve Kerr, has a better shooting percentage than S.Curry , never averaged more than 10 points a game.please come up with intelligent explanations
I love Dominique, I’ve been a hawks fan since fan since 1987, even had his sneakers which nobody else had when I was in school (brooks high tops) and I agree with him. And for him to defend bird after bird would talk so much trash to him when they played, shows you the level of respect he has for him and his game.
Dominique has said that after the initial not shaking his hand and telling him he didn't belong in the league as a rookie, he never trash talked him after that.
I was a huge 76ers fan because of Dr J (I followed the box scores when he was in the ABA because they weren't on tv much) but I always wanted the Hawks to get to the finals because of Dominique Wilkins. He was sooo exciting! I never watched basketball again after these greats retired.
Context is important! He was talking about physicality around the 3 pt line specifically. JJ obviously knows that Bird faced more physicality overall but the 3 pt shot wasn't as prevalent back then and wasn't guarded how it is today.
The 3 pt shot is guarded more today but you have to take into account that there is no hand checking anymore. The likes of Curry have less limitations because the NBA is doing everything to make the game more spectacular. The step back wouldn't have been allowed back then for sure
you can't crowd the shooter now, you could back then. The shooter can initiate the contact now by swinging their legs out, no back then tho.. so no, it is NOT more physical now on the perimeter. not to mention the hand checking.
Curry would have got the toni kukoc treatment. Players like mj, mike cooper, Gary payton, pippen would have hounded curry full court with elite defense& hand checking is allowed so no bail outs flops to save himself
Larry Bird played in the Golden Era of The NBA. It is like saying that Drake could rap circles around a Biggie or a Tupac! Larry was so clutch I don’t ever remember him missing a game winning or series clinching basket.
The funny thing is, JJ never said Bird faced less physicality than Curry. I find it interesting seeing how the statements JJ made have been twisted to his detriment, especially outside of the media on various RUclips channels.
Just watch McHale's clothesline of Rambis and no technical was called. Today he would have been suspended for multiple games. JJ's trying to make a name for himself by being controversial. Instead, he does sound stupid.
A good and important discussion by someone (Dominique) who, as the story goes, was only trashed talked once by Larry Bird. That has got to be the ultimate expression of respect Larry had for Dominique's play.
Shouldn't ol' JJ be cutting a RAP album right about now? Or, making his girlfriends sign an "abortion contract," prior to sleeping with them? 《--- Both true JJ stories, btw.
Dominique Wilkins was a badass player. Should've been on the 50 greatest players list when it came out in 1996. He wasn't called the Human Highlight Film for nothing.
As much heart break that Larry Bird dished out to so many legends of the game, I think it speaks VOLUMES by the fact that those same legends always have Larry Bird's back. If anybody doubts how great Larry Bird was, all they have to do is listen to the guys who competed against him night in and night out. You will never hear Larry Bird tooting his own horn on how great he thinks he was.... he never has too!
Well, that's because JJ didn't say that. He said there was no physicality in the perimeter, specifically. If you go back and watch a game from the 80s you'll notice there's none picking up their man outside the 3-point line.
People are ignoring the whole context of the conversation. JJ was referring to Bird and Steph strictly as shooters, and according to the context, he is not wrong. People in the 80s were not worried about guarding 3s because it was an inefficient shot, even for good shooters (at the time) like Larry. If the offense took a 3, it was good defense. That's not how the game is played today. The 80s obviously had more phisicality, with the illegal defense, hand-checking, hard fouls and whatnot, i don't think JJ is arguing with that
It’s crazy how insecure and defensive old heads are about basketball from the 80s and 90s. JJ was only talking about getting 3 point shots off. It’s undoubtedly way harder for steph to get a 3 point shot off then Larry bird. JJ even admitted it was more physical in the paint mainly because no one guarded the 3 point line back then so there was more people around the basket but old heads again are so insecure and trying to preserve the basketball from that time it’s wild
That's why I just watch highlights of the modern NBA. No way in hell I'm watching a game with no defense an everyone just chucks threes. I'll RUclips an 80s era game
No that’s not what reddick said. He said on 3POINT ATTEMPTS curry faces more physicality than Larry did on 3POINT ATTEMPTS. and it is 100% true go look up a compilation of Larry hitting 3s in game there is no one within 5 feet of him. Go look at curry’s people are draped on him grabbing him around screens.
Which is a bad argument by Reddick. He ignored the fact that Larry averaged only TWO 3pt shots a game in his career while Steph averages NINE 3pt shots a game (so far) in his career. Also to point out that he averages atleast ELEVEN 3pt shot attempts per game since the 3pt shooting era started in 2015/2016.
Redick’s comments that triggered Dominique (and Nick Gelso) ruclips.net/video/yfy42pYBhcg/видео.html
But let's be for real there was a huge mountain of elephant doo doo 🗑️ 🤢🤢🤢😷😷😷😷😷😷😷 this nba players would smack them sleep
Nique has never got his due and respect… he was more than a dunker…
He had a hell of a jump shot with Range, too!
Facts!
I agree with you 100%......I am old enough to know Nique was amazing. Over 26,000 points scored is not from dunks. One of the most underrated players ever. JJ reDICK was a role player at best and not even born when Nique was in the league
Super efficient player.
Speaking facts
I love Dominique, Not only was he a human highlight reels But,was a true class act
I sold Dominique his cash registers for his nightclub. He is a great guy.
Dominique - my favorite player of all time. I used to wear Pony Sneakers when I played HS Basketball. When I graduated college the Hawks were on TNT and TBS a good bit and that just made my end of day to watch him. Great guy and class act.
@@tombyorn8278 unbelievably pigeon toed. You should have seen him walking up stairs
He really is a great guy. Always positive toward everyone. Gives respect to players of all generations (from Russell/Chamberlain/West/Big to Bird/Magic/King/Isiah/Dr. J/Barkley/MG to Shaq/Duncan/Robinson/Drexler/Olajuwon to Kobe/Miller/Nash/Dirk/Webber/ right on up to today and especially to those he had to battle himself. Never craps on people. Always gives credit. Assumes best intentions.
The way he validated McClung at the dunk context, giving him a hug. I mean, this was the frickin Human Highlight Film, slamdunk contest winner, a big-time in-game dunker, who stood up for the G-League kid.
Dominique is a man's man and a truly decent person.
Total class!! Even the Celtics admitted that!! He should have been on the dream team imo
First 9 years of Larry Bird’s career he never played less than 74 games!
An STILL won 3 rings came close to 4 if he hit that corner 3 .
Turned a league worst losing team around in his rookie year.
That's why hes the GOAT
What no load management? 😉
Fewer
Can you see Redick making a trip into the lane against Bird-Parrish-McHale or Rambis-Kareem-Worthy-Cooper or The Bad Boys, and coming out unscathed? Nope, me neither. Because, you know, physicality.
not to mention, this dude wouldn’t even have made the team back then
MaHale PF 6-10 210, Robert Parish C 7- 230lb, Larry Bird SF 6-9 220, Kurt Rambis PF 6-8 213lb, James Worthy SF 6-9 225lbs, Micheal Cooper SG 6-7 170lbs vs. James Harden 6-5 220lb, Luka 6-7 230lb, Ben Simmons 6-10 240lb, Lebron James 6-9 250lb, Kevin Durant 6-10 240lb, Nikola Jokic 6-11 284lb.
Remember when Rambis got wiped out? You would never see a play like today.
@@1teela If you saw a play like that today it would make national news and there would be a debate about "legislation" to stop it. Back then that was how basketball was played from the playground to the NBA.
physicality or blatant hacking?
Back in the 80s and 90s there were REAL rivalries where teams and players truly despised each other and you could feel the tension through the TV screen. Those games were so much fun to watch. Todays NBA is not fun to watch at all.
No defense throwing your hands up and getting a call it's just awful
It was the Lakers and Celtics. That's about it.
@@hitek9too255 The Lakers and Celtics set the table that the Jordan era would fully capitalize on and when the Dream Team happened the NBA went global in a way that nobody could've ever imagined but Magic and Bird were the springboard for that. There were still some good 80's teams though. The Bucks, 76ers, Pistons, Hawks, and Rockets had some good teams but the Lakers and Celtics were absolutely stacked beyond belief. They would still dominate to this day.
"Now" NBA sucks! It all started when it's OK for any player to chuck a three pointer no matter what the situation is. Even during a fastbreak!
NBA thought they will attract more people in stadiums by prioritizing scoring vs overall play like defense, rebounding, etc.. It turned many people off! I'm turned off by the quality of play I'm witnessing in every NBA game!
@@hitek9too255 i mean literally... lakers vs celtics, celtics vs philly, lakers vs detroit, celtics vs detroit, Bulls vs detroit, bulls vs knicks, bulls vs cavs, knicks vs heat, knicks vs pacers, spurs vs suns, bulls vs utah...... like seriously explain yourself.... and im leaving out a tonnn
Dominique Wilkins is so right!
Well his comments showed he didn’t see anything more than just a clip of Reddicks comments or he
@@anthonyw6092he never said he saw it he’s going off what the guy told him
@@TheSands83 ya bad interviewing by the guy.
When it mattered most...Most game-winners (last minute) of All-Time:
#1) Kobe = 26 (in 1346 games)
#2) Jordan = 25 (in 1072 games)
#3) Bird. = 24 (in 897 games)
#4) LeBron = 19 (in 1366 games)
...
However, when it came to overall game-winners ratio, here are the best of All-Time:
#1) Bird = 2.67
#2) Jordan = 2.33
#3) Kobe 1.93
#4) LeBron = 1.39
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK)
#1) Jordan = 44.7
#2) LeBron = 44.4
#3) Bird = 43.1
#4) Kareem = 42.9
Curry is #31 with 37.5
That's just to put things into to perspective
JJ Redick is really annoying me. He's sounding more and more like the media guys he speaks about. Lol. Get that man a clown mask because he's part of that group! Lmao.
Only diff is, TRUE media would never disrespect Larry Bird like this. Stephen A. Was about to back Maddog but (for once) he couldn’t get a word in edge-wise lol 😱 ruclips.net/video/yfy42pYBhcg/видео.html
@@NBAHistoryCLNS Yeah - they have a chance to do legitimate sports commentary, but they are selling out for click-bait and cheapening themselves. Both Stephen A and Redick likely know better, but they seem to prefer to be TV trolls.
Like agent zero, he thinks we have short memories.
Bird couldnt hold a candle to curry. stop it. 😂😂😂
@@Whatacomedian_ You're a clown.
1st off, nobody should be taking redick seriously, or listening to a word he says. 2nd, the growing trend of disrespect toward prior eras & players needs to stop. preach dominique ❤
Reddick is jealous. He's butt hurt about the league being labeled soft now. IT IS! It really hurts his feelings to be thought of as soft because he played in a soft era, Oh, and he's soft. It's just sad pathetic and common playa hate.
Facts. Even someone like me who started watching basketball in the early 2000’s and I still know how insane Larry Legend was. First JJ shits on Jerry west and now he shits on Bird? It makes no sense.
@@77amitd Yep, the whole "new media" thing....which is basically: Never ask tough questions, let players do whatever they want and continually ride their nuts.
Convinced y’all don’t even hoop yall just watched for fun ☠️
What? Players today get disrespected today way more than old eras. How often do you hear people say the “game is soft”, I would average 40 etc. Also JJ was saying that Steph gets abused off the ball in a way Bird didn’t. Either way the physicality is way overstated in previous eras
I don’t ever remember curry breaking his cheek in a game then finishing the same game. Players now get a sprain ankle and they are out for half the damn season.
Because they're multi-million dollar assets, come on man, think about it for just 3 seconds.
@@Ozhullyea let’s pay this million dollar asset to ride the bench 🤡
@@OzhullHockey players make millions and routinely play w broken jaws, fractures etc. Basketball has became soft in this generation due to people like Popovich implementing load management. It set a horrible precedent which resulted in a domino effect
Not just finishing, but dominating.
Westbrook came close
Thankyou Dominique... it drives me crazy when people that were not there think they can compare the physicality to today's game. It's not comparable.. obviously you played it... but when I was at those games in the stands.. I got scared for you guys.. because all of you were warriors and didn't give an inch... especially in the paint was incredibly brutal..
It’s crazy how insecure and defensive old heads are about basketball from the 80s and 90s. JJ was only talking about getting 3 point shots off. It’s undoubtedly way harder for steph to get a 3 point shot off then Larry bird. JJ even admitted it was more physical in the paint mainly because no one guarded the 3 point line back then so there was more people around the basket but old heads again are so insecure and trying to preserve the basketball from that time it’s wild
Karl Malone, Shaq, Ewing, Larry Johnson, these guys were a Force of Destruction in the Paint...
@@mattsell2361 You're delusional Mj, Pippen, gary payton, Michael cooper would have hounded curry full court with physicality defense. He definitely wouldn't be casually shooting 3s wide open
@@G_Martin Gary Payton got lit up by Jason Williams and Pippen got are up by Jamal Mashburn. Old heads and their nostalgia lol.
@@hitek9too255 You kids born late 90s, 2000s are delusional lol.Curry would of gotten the toni kucok treatment. Payton/Pippen wouldve hounded him with full court pressure with hand checking so no petty touch fouls/flops to bail him out.
I miss those Celtics-Hawks games. Bird vs Nique and you knew it was gonna be good. Back then it was like playground ball compared to today. No blood, no foul. Redick got no idea.
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK)
#1) Jordan = 44.7
#2) LeBron = 44.4
#3) Bird = 43.1
#4) Kareem = 42.9
Curry is #31 with 37.5
That's just to put things into to perspective
@@FreedomFighter2112 I believe if you add in rebounds and assists, Bird is still #1
LARRY BIRD WAS A GREAT PLAYER AND A JOY TO WATCH
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK)
#1) Jordan = 44.7
#2) LeBron = 44.4
#3) Bird = 43.1
#4) Kareem = 42.9
Curry is #31 with 37.5
That's just to put things into to perspective
You tell them Nique!!
The ignorance of some of these so called basketball players is astounding. Would love to see him in a room with Bird for 5 minutes. Bird would abuse him verbally and make him run crying.
Bird doesn’t even talk
Lmao you acting like Bird gonna beat someones ass or something 💀
@@ssj-rose4572 the "GOAT" of Trashtalkers didnt talk? even Reggie Miller who was known as one of the best trashtalkers got whooped by Bird..! and Dr. J! one of the legends who was known cool, gotten into fistfight with Bird because of Bird's
"friendly talk" with Dr.J!
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK)
#1) Jordan = 44.7
#2) LeBron = 44.4
#3) Bird = 43.1
#4) Kareem = 42.9
Curry is #31 with 37.5
That's just to put things into to perspective
I’ve lived through both eras, Dominique is 💯. The league was far more physical during his and Birds time.
All it was just hard( flagrant)fouls…….Majority of the time it was just them out there hurting people.
These dudes today can’t even play three games without a load management day off 😂
They get a hang nail and they are out for a month in today's game.
@@Lonewolfmikefacts!
@@Beantown6 Look a Kawhi Leonard and how much time he spends on the bench. I mean he gets a cramp and he's out for like two weeks or something like that. Makes me wonder if he actually wants to play basketball at all.
@@LonewolfmikeIt’s maddening. He’s so good, and so fun to watch, yet he plays half a season every year. I get the injury comeback, but that is behind him. I don’t understand what the owners or players are thinking. They are killing the product, in turn salaries will eventually be reduced due to declining profit. What network will want to keep showing games featuring bench players. They need to rethink this.
yet you couldn’t make the league
Bird was my favorite player. Nique was 2nd. Nique played that era and knows what he is talking about. I'll take it a step further.... Look at today's all star games vs back in the day. Moses Malone and them guys were playing for blood. No nights off.
Then that 4th quarter of game 7 must have been the greatest quarter of NBA hoops in your life! Truly epic.
@@ktbeatty The Dual. The story Dominique tells about that one is classic. ruclips.net/video/U69kS3idK5Q/видео.html
@@Lonewolfmike I watched it live, and while I’ve seen superstars like Jordan, Kobe, Magic, and LeBron play at a level equal to Bird and ‘Nique in that game, I can’t recall ever seeing two play at that rare level head to head over such a long stretch, let alone the 4th quarter of a game 7. Me and my high school friends kept falling off the couch and screaming every time they shot because they simply couldn’t miss. It was truly heartbreaking a clock forced the ending to something so special. I could have watched that for hours
@@ktbeatty What can you say it is a classic in every sense of the word. Two great players leaving it all out on the floor. You can't do better than that.
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK)
#1) Jordan = 44.7
#2) LeBron = 44.4
#3) Bird = 43.1
#4) Kareem = 42.9
Curry is #31 with 37.5
That's just to put things into to perspective
I'm no pro...but I've literally told my own kids I used to hate playing basketball as a kid, being the smallest of my friends because the game was way more physical than it is now. I used to get banged around like a ping pong ball. The game is way softer compared to the 80s and 90s
exactly same here it's way easier to score . I been hanchecked especially against someone bigger than you ,I was faster but I could even get past the guy I had to settle for a jumpshot
Yeah, i nearly got into a couple fights against other kids. I had sharp elbows and didnt mind using them for rebounds.😁
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK)
#1) Jordan = 44.7
#2) LeBron = 44.4
#3) Bird = 43.1
#4) Kareem = 42.9
Curry is #31 with 37.5
That's just to put things into to perspective
Basketball is literally one of the least physical sports. I played soccer and when I played basketball the first thing I said notice was how soft the sport itself is. I’ve been to the most unsanctioned games, with guys who have physical gifts and I still walk away thinking how soft this sport is. Basketball regardless of era isnt a sport that hurts. You just might be weak
They played more defense during the 1988 NBA All Star game than in today's league.
Lmao. Nice one man. Speaking of the ASG did you watch the game last week? Literally zero defense until the final minute. Not even half ass defense. Why even play the game if you’re not gonna try the minimum? I watched the game as a comedy. Every trip down the court was a wide open 3. Much like the actual real games. They started trying to match each others half court shots. Shaq sarcastically made a comment saying he hopes they take 10 half court shots in a row. Just a garbage product.
Back then you had to be physical just to make space. Now the space is just provided. I love Kyries ability to finish but he doesn’t get touched. Back then most of his drives he would be on the floor. Just ask iverson. That man lived on the floor and he was way quicker than Kyrie
True dat. Isiah made an interesting comment back in the day saying that they couldn't ball handle the ball as fancy as today because the defensive physicality wouldn't allow that. You were actually limited by what you could do because of that physicality.
@@leechrec lol James Harden probably would not even have the space to do a single crossover dribble let alone that flashy shit he does
And Bird could outfake anyone. Anyone remember the time he faked 4 defenders at once?
The disrespect of today's Players for their predecessors is mind boggling!
"Bro we have less body fat" that's basically their position in a nutshell. They claim to be more "athletic and skilled" we have no way of knowing if they are more skilled its pure conjecture. The 3 point shooting is better these days that's about it. But that's due to a stylistic choice of coaches, one that basically gutted the IQ of the average player as well. Now you have guys passing out for the open 3 rather than take an open layup. Completely psycho.
And so they only really have the "athletic" argument. Are they stronger? Lifting heavier weights? Do we have combine type stats? They're just thinner on average. The average player is more cut. More fit in terms of nutrition and lifestyle. That's about it. They aren't significantly faster and stronger.
It's also the modern fans. I haven't watched basketball in a very long time, but I'm an avid boxing fan. The sheer lack of respect modern fans show towards boxers of the past is disgusting. I understand that they want to claim that they were around when the "best fighters fought", but it's a total lack of understanding of the sport. Never show a lack of respect to athletes in the past just to try and make yourself feel better. Good comment.
I have also been disappointed in JJ Redick, I would have thought he was someone who understood the game, but he has really let some moronic statements fly recently. Also, he seems to be participating in this disrespect towards previous eras in order to try to boost up the current players, which is sad to see.
He got a job because he's a lebron fanboy just like Perkins and the majority of workers on ESPN they're hired to tear down legends and big up lebron plain and simple
yeah cuz lebron is the goat
@@zaviorrlmao nah losing finals record is embarrassing
@@rareform6948 shi making the finals ten times is a feat i commend by itself, considering how often his teams were dogshit
@@zaviorr still can’t be the goat if you lost 6 times, that’s horrible
Dominique is my 2nd favorite player. I know most talk about Jordan and his dunking skills but to me Dominique was that guy. He looked so fluid and had the perfect body composition for basketball and he had so much power behind his dunks. Clyde Drexler was the same way when he took jumpshots, just pure perfection.
"You really don't know do you?" Man if JJ made a disrespectful statement like that as a player in the 80s, Bird would have put up 50 on him, and talked shit to him the entire time. These players nowadays don't understand what it's like to be humbled.
JJ is a perfect example of the change in the NBA, he came into he league at 22... 6.0 ppg , 2nd season 4.5 ppg.... 3rd season 6.0...... then all of a sudden, the league starts to change and he numbers go up to his career highs of 18 ppg at 35 !!!! he made his living on the league being soft!! he will fight tooth and nail to keep you from understand how soft it really is!
Role players like Reddick talking about 3 time MVPs is crazy
He was trash as a NBA player so Role was irrelevant!
Nobodies online talking about an NBA player that lasted more than 10 years.
Spot on 💯.. Larry Bird legend!
Guys like Redick and Jay Williams in these sports shows are mind boggling. How much have they done to think of themselves as "experts" when they open their mouths. It's not Dominique being an "old head" it's just him knowing the game and he is someone who actually played the game at a high level.
JJ Redick has made deeper runs in the playoffs and played more playoff games than Dominique Wilkins.
@@penkima4923. And he is a top 75 player.....wait. ..No. Carry Nique's bags bitch.
@@penkima4923 Please Wilkens had to go through Bird and was the main man....Reddick was an after thought with a jumper and was carried , yet he still had no rings I don't believe?
@@penkima4923 Are you seriously comparing Reddick and Wilkins because Reddick was in more playoff games? That's about as dumb as saying Horry is better than Jordan because he has more rings.
@@blachloch1 No rings. But he made a finals appearance. Nique conference semi. The opening comment reads Nique has actually played at a high level. Whether that means playoff runs, skill or responsibility it doesn't make sense. JJ is top-20 in 3-pointers made and 3p%, all-time. And the main 3-point threat is an afterthought in today's game? Not the main man, but he's not carried either.
My Uncle worked in the Old Boston garden in the 70's and 80's, I went to countless games, even walked on the court before and after games. When Bird came into the league is in 70-80 was when the 3 was first implemented. Larry was the first forward to stretch thew game with the 3 period. His fade and turn around shot was nuts, along with his off the ball movement to create. The "86" Celtics averaged 3.5 3's per game while averaging 115ppg, because the Celtics could play any style!
Look at the 84-87 finals, Bird was the focus of hard fouls all series, by some nasty big men.
The 80's & 90's basketball. Rivalries. No freebies. No layup rules. Etc, etc. The best era of hoops.
First Jerry West, now Dominique? Reddick's been pissing off a lot of these legends.
Think he wants pub and views.
Lol old heads mad.
JJ Redick hasn't said nothing to either one of those legends. This is a bad look Dominique. Maybe less so for Jerry West.
Larry Bird is a legend. Bird made a player suffer and pay every time he shot that ball. He had deadly accuracy. He was a born shooter! No shame in his game.
JJ and Gilbert are prime examples of "just because you played in the NBA doesn't mean you know the game" lol
Can't stand Gil his a dumby
Honestly I think its more so that they've mastered the craft of "say stupid shit" on the air in order to raise up their viewership numbers, and to have people talking about them. Sadly that's the only way you can have a career in media now days, and they want that career because their playing days are over. Gotta make money some how huh?
@@dagameplayer I think you nailed it. JJ is trying to be the new Skip or Stephen A. By saying controversial things that are basically click bait to get people talking. It’s the way of the world now but it’s ridiculously disrespectful to come at guys like Bird to boost up your likes.
and that moron Ryan Hollins as well.
@@dwigg7700 nah yall need to listen to what he actually said and JJs response to this. JJ actually knows the game incredibly well and made very valid points. The dude who asked the question completely misrepresented what JJ said.
Bird entered the NBA as a PF who had never shot a 3 pointer in his life and ended his career as one of 2 players ever to have multiple 50-40-90 seasons.
Imagine if they told Bird, shoot 10+ three's a game 😂🤣😂
Larry had 11 out of 12 -3's in a 2 game span'
Dominique was a great player and a class act!
Didn't Larry Bird used to get beat up by Bill Laimbeer in the paint?
Today's bball is hard to watch for the fact it's watered down defense and 3 ball chucking.
If JJ wasn't a commentator on TV, no one would remember he even played.
Most beautiful thing ever said. “It’s y’all time now beautiful and perfect. But don’t crap on us to try and feel good n prove ya greatness”
If these special Ed guys were so confident and secure in y’all greatness they wouldn’t have to twist reality and downplay the greatness of other older eras that were the opposite of what their narratives say they are. Maybe it’s an emotional response for some of these JJ like guys listening to the wrong older guys crapping on their era but it’s the fault of whoever is spewing and listening to BS young or old for being unable to discern what’s truth and what’s hate and spewing their own fallacy and hate as a result of emotion
I like the part when you admitted the wrong older guys started this trend of disrespect.
@@ghodge20flex even if an older guy started it, and what he said wasn’t just truth taken as hate but ACTUAL hate, then 2 wrongs never make a right and in this particular case it’s all JJ as no one here is dissing his particular era and I’m thinking maybe he was met with some type of hate earlier in his life but it’s not a sure thing at all in the case of jj just a possible thought of why he’s buggin so much, but yes if your saying your glad I’m keeping consistency on both sides then I’m glad u enjoyed that bruv
Damn, Nique should've been in the dunk contest last Saturday the way he just threw down on Reddick. I'd give that slam a 50.
I've watched basketball for more than 49 years.. 70s and 80s were Hella physical
How can the league be more physical now when the game is played from the 3 point line now and not under the rim? Teams are averaging 39-40 3s a night now. Nobody is getting banged up under the rim like 80s basketball was played
Shout out to Dominique for doin' all windmills in that dunk contest. This man did a windmill each dunk attempt and the sh*t never got old cuz he was so ferocious wit' it...
As a gay guy who wasn't good at basketball, Reddick is about being woke and not about the game.
Absolutely, no contest!!!
If he'd said anything more stupid, he'd be sitting in the corner of the court wearing a clown nose 🤡
When it mattered most...Most game-winners (last minute) of All-Time:
#1) Kobe = 26 (in 1346 games)
#2) Jordan = 25 (in 1072 games)
#3) Bird. = 24 (in 897 games)
#4) LeBron = 19 (in 1366 games)
...
However, when it came to overall game-winners ratio, here are the best of All-Time:
#1) Bird = 2.67
#2) Jordan = 2.33
#3) Kobe 1.93
#4) LeBron = 1.39
Wow JJ talking smack on Larry Bird, Larry Freaking Bird. He needs to brush up on his basketball history. There's not many players today who could deal with the physicality of 80s and 90s basketball. They wouldn't be getting any free layups like they get today I'll tell you that.
Well JJ is apart of that Duke thing, you know that Duke thing.
-Patrick Bankman
NBA seems to be the only major sports which fans and media consistently disrespects past generations all the time
@Tyler Holt I have been watching the ACC tournament on the ACC channel. It covers the entire history of the tournament. Charlie Scott was the first black player at UNC. You could take him right out of that era and he would dominate this era. First off he is really tall for a guard( 6'5-6" tall. He had completely modern moves. Many guards were really big back then. Ainge was 6'5, Maravich was 6'5 Dennis Johnson was 6'4. All of these guys are as coordinated as players today. Go look at Charlie Scott's highlights.
Worthy was 6'9 and he is as modern as anyone as was MJ. Ralph Sampson is more coordinated than Embid and Giannis and he is much taller than them.
It only started when the media was trying to convince the world lebron is great. They started taring down other players to build him up and looking at the game strictly from a stats POV😡🤦🏿♂️
No lies. Every time you blink, people shit on the past. "Not athletic. Low scoring games. They had to defend because they had no offensive game to speak of."
Maybe Redick should time travel for a match up with Bill Laimbeer/Rick Mahorn.
How do they guard the perimeter?
It's the reason players like kyrie Irving can get to the rim no matter what. When he can go any direction he wants and can just barrel through Defenders because they physically can't stop him, it makes it look easy. Defensive rules have ruined the game. kyrie would be good in any area, but instead of averaging 27. He'd average like 24. Not just in the 90s, but even in today's game players in general would be held in points.
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK)
#1) Jordan = 44.7
#2) LeBron = 44.4
#3) Bird = 43.1
#4) Kareem = 42.9
Curry is #31 with 37.5
That's just to put things into to perspective
It is ridiculous that Nique did not make the top 50 list in 1996. Glad to see he made the top 75 a couple years ago.
Got to laugh at the young heads thinking they know the game better than people that ACTUALLY played in the era and now see how it is played and officiated present day. JJ Reddick better go back to duke and study because his hoop history IQ with the Bird comment is ZERO.
It’s crazy how insecure and defensive old heads are about basketball from the 80s and 90s. JJ was only talking about getting 3 point shots off. It’s undoubtedly way harder for steph to get a 3 point shot off then Larry bird. JJ even admitted it was more physical in the paint mainly because no one guarded the 3 point line back then so there was more people around the basket but old heads again are so insecure and trying to preserve the basketball from that time it’s wild
Anyone who thinks Larry’s shots were uncontested NEVER WATCHED HIM PLAY.
Matt sell That's the problem... We that were growing up in the 80s were there... It was man to man defense... The players guarded WHEREVER THERE MAN WAS.... If there man was at the three point line they guarded him.... You can go on You tube and fine many games that will show players not guarding guys at the three point line.... Especially in the early 80s, but as three point specialists started to rise, and Larry started to use it as a weapon they began to be guarded very closely.... Realize You tube doesn't have all 80s games or 90s but those of us that were there.... It just isn't true.... All 5 players wherever they were whether in the paint or not were guarding their man.... It got even more vicious in the 90s and God knows in the early 2000s! I am talking about guarding guys man to man at the 3 point line, paint or midrange... It didn't matter you were going to meet incredible PHYSICALITY!
@@brandonmartin7713 not to mention the fact that Larry had the ability to be very elusive. Once ge finally broke free of whoever happened to be grabbing and tugging on his shirt at that moment, he would get away as soon as they weren't looking and wind up open. When he was open for a three, it was because he caused himself to be open. Then he would tell his defender... "Hey I'm over here". Rodman even talked about that in detail
I have been watching the ACC tournament on the ACC channel. It covers the entire history of the tournament. Charlie Scott was the first black player at UNC. You could take him right out of that era and he would dominate this era. Fist off he is really tall for a guard( 6'5-6" tall. He had completely modern moves. Many guards were really big back then. Ainge was 6'5, Maravich was 6'5 Dennis Johnson was 6'4. All of these guys are as coordinated as players today. Go look at Charlie Scott's highlights.
Worthy was 6'9 and he is as modern as anyone as was MJ. Ralph Sampson is more coordinated than Embid and Giannis and he is much taller than them.
Reddick a backup in his career and disrespecting one of the top 10 players in NBA history is funny to me 😂
No harm, no foul. That was old school basketball.
JJ outed himself as a today's player apologist and utter moron to not see how today's game of 3's or dunk's has RUINED the nba for fans who loved it longer then 15 years..... I think JJ COULD take this criticism and learn from it, but critiquing YOURSELF as a human being is the hardest thing we can do. Here is hoping JJ Learns from it and takes the L of his current comment and stance.
Larry Bird was doing all the stuff with a mangled shooting hand.
Just like everyone else, people rush to comments to do the SAME THING that he’s doing in this video-speaking on someone without context…you haven’t even heard Redick’s comments. Go watch his video on this, and tell me if he’s out of line or disrespectful. Until then, save your time and energy, and stop speaking on something until you have heard all the details.
JJ is a dope - nobody plays any D today which is why you have nightly scores of 140-125
Yeah, ignore the Nuggets having the highest scoring offense of all time in the 80's. Moron.
Career Ppg for Dominique Wilkins: 24.8
Career ppg for JJ Redick: 12.8
I rest my case.
JJ is a classic case of someone who is well spoken but not that smart. Simple
Your lack of knowledge is laughable I’m sure you didn’t even watch the whole clip so go home and try again kiddo and come back when you understand what the word context means
JJ can hold his own engaging the smartest basketball minds in conversation. He's getting constant coaching invitations. He played upwards of 10 seasons in the NBA as a short white guy. The man is smart, and that might be an understatement.
@@penkima4923 He is very smart. He's also becoming the thing everyone projected on him when he was at Duke; which I found unfair at the time. He's awfully haughty these days. He also seems to be doing this thing of trying too hard to future-proof all of his thoughts (to stay relevant and hip), by just assuming that all current analytics are gospel; it's guiding all of his thoughts like it's his sonar. There are plenty of analytics that we use today - or that they're wanting us to use today - that will be picked-apart over time. A lot of the older guard don't sound too sharp at times, but some of their points are correct, and today's analytics will have you believe that the game is evolving; rather than it's just trending (for now) in this current 3pt barrage era.
The 3pt shot is here to stay, but basketball and the stats in this era are becoming meaningless. Lillard and Mitchell going off for 60, and Siakam for 50, or averaging 30ppg today, doesn't mean that much anymore.
JJ Redick is starting have to some awful takes similar to Ryan Hollins. Just because you can look at a dumb stat sheet or statistics, doesn't prove it valid by the eyeball test. We all know the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s was more physical than it is today. To stay these modern players could take that is dumb when they are complaining about guys touching them lightly. Dominque is definitely speaking fax
I think you are missing the context in Redick's argument. The whole point was arguing Larry Bird and Steph's 3 point ability and JJ was saying that in the 80s three's were uncontested while today Steph has to deal with guys guarding up and being more physical on threes. JJ never said that the 80s weren't more physical, he was saying that only 3's today are more physical.
Yeah it’s a very simple argument I don’t understand how they can’t see that
Uncontested? That’s just as goofy as Redick’s comment
Farhan Sarkar But even that is not true! It was man to man defense back then.... No zone allowed.... Because Larry became so feared shooting the three, he was held a lot before he could get open... Then he was touched up by bigs before he could get to his spots.... Now if you go back through you tube you will find games that don't show anything I said.....The reason is You tube doesn't have every Larry Bird game... You had to be in the 80s.. I first started watching in 85-86. When he was at the peak of his powers... I am from Detroit... Later in his career the Bad Boys did a job on Bird.... Laimbeer, Mahorn were brutal! Dennis Rodman would be all over bird... The regular season games and playoffs for Larry trying to get his shot off at the three was not a pretty picture.... Switching defense, drop coverage, and no hand checking has truly allowed Steph to nowhere COME CLOSE to experiencing the physicality that Bird experienced trying to get his shot off at the three point line or pretty much anywhere on the court... I forgot about their games against the 76ers in the early 80s... I have watched those games on You tube.... Boy were those games INTENSE! Hope you understand my point...
Wishful thinking, Ever wonder why Steve Kerr, has a better shooting percentage than S.Curry , never averaged more than 10 points a game.please come up with intelligent explanations
@@mattsell2361 To be fair it isn't Dominque's fault. He was given blatant misinformation..
I feel like JJ was trying hard to diss a white guy because that's just the thing to do
I love Dominique, I’ve been a hawks fan since fan since 1987, even had his sneakers which nobody else had when I was in school (brooks high tops) and I agree with him. And for him to defend bird after bird would talk so much trash to him when they played, shows you the level of respect he has for him and his game.
Dominique has said that after the initial not shaking his hand and telling him he didn't belong in the league as a rookie, he never trash talked him after that.
@@toddpeterson2992 I have seen him tell that story and Dominique learned from that. It is a great story.
Players today would cry foul in the parking lot if they played in the 80s.
I was a huge 76ers fan because of Dr J (I followed the box scores when he was in the ABA because they weren't on tv much) but I always wanted the Hawks to get to the finals because of Dominique Wilkins. He was sooo exciting! I never watched basketball again after these greats retired.
Question for the audiophiles... does anyone know the make and model of the headsets that they are using?
Context is important! He was talking about physicality around the 3 pt line specifically. JJ obviously knows that Bird faced more physicality overall but the 3 pt shot wasn't as prevalent back then and wasn't guarded how it is today.
The 3 pt shot is guarded more today but you have to take into account that there is no hand checking anymore. The likes of Curry have less limitations because the NBA is doing everything to make the game more spectacular. The step back wouldn't have been allowed back then for sure
you can't crowd the shooter now, you could back then. The shooter can initiate the contact now by swinging their legs out, no back then tho.. so no, it is NOT more physical now on the perimeter. not to mention the hand checking.
Curry would have got the toni kukoc treatment. Players like mj, mike cooper, Gary payton, pippen would have hounded curry full court with elite defense& hand checking is allowed so no bail outs flops to save himself
@@G_Martinthat’s false lol they not chasing Curry around💀
Finally I looking for this comment, these old heads don’t like context
Royce 5'9" said "remember when you praising the butterfly, don't you ever distract the f-in caterpillar"
Wilkins has always been a solid, honest dude….one of the most Vicious dunkers of all time too
Never understood the hate JJ got in college when playing for Duke...I'm starting to see why now.
Larry Bird played in the Golden Era of The NBA. It is like saying that Drake could rap circles around a Biggie or a Tupac! Larry was so clutch I don’t ever remember him missing a game winning or series clinching basket.
Nowadays refs call fouls just for breathing on an opponent
Shit, they call techs for yelling at your own teammate.
J.J. Redick missed more momentum turning threes than anyone I've ever seen.
The funny thing is, JJ never said Bird faced less physicality than Curry.
I find it interesting seeing how the statements JJ made have been twisted to his detriment, especially outside of the media on various RUclips channels.
Exactly! They will jump on whatever blindly to protect their childhood.
Back to back to back MVP.
End of story.
That still doesn't' negate what JJ said
Considering Larry Bird played in the most competitive era in NBA history and highest degree of difficulty… uh… yeah… it does.
@@Neilxtc So 3 straight MVP's makes him a top 3 3pt shooter all-time?
Just watch McHale's clothesline of Rambis and no technical was called. Today he would have been suspended for multiple games. JJ's trying to make a name for himself by being controversial. Instead, he does sound stupid.
JJ needs to be in a boyband. Not in the NBA
Thank you for speaking the truth Nique
A good and important discussion by someone (Dominique) who, as the story goes, was only trashed talked once by Larry Bird. That has got to be the ultimate expression of respect Larry had for Dominique's play.
Shouldn't ol' JJ be cutting a RAP album right about now? Or, making his girlfriends sign an "abortion contract," prior to sleeping with them? 《--- Both true JJ stories, btw.
Dominique Wilkins was a badass player. Should've been on the 50 greatest players list when it came out in 1996. He wasn't called the Human Highlight Film for nothing.
Guess he never watched Celtics vs Lakers or Pistons...
The truth is JJ Redick would not make a team in birds era , Dominick said it best a poor man's Danny Ange .
If Larry Bird played today, he'd be Luka Doncic but better.
More like a better defender and more athletic Nikola Jokic
Adam Morrison at best.
Damn Dominique, tell us how you really feel.....lol
Jordan said people don't get it. Bird was the best Small Forward to ever play. He was amazing.
I’m sure Redick’s plaque in the HOF will be right next to Larry’s 🙄
Bird started 95 playoff games, Redick 70 games. Maybe not next to, but not too far off. JJ just has to accept one of those coaching invitations first.
@@penkima4923 yea because playoff games is what we use to measure a HOF . He’s not even in Larry’s league dude . 😆
No basketball player today could ever win a debate against 80's and 90's players EVER!!!!!
As much heart break that Larry Bird dished out to so many legends of the game, I think it speaks VOLUMES by the fact that those same legends always have Larry Bird's back. If anybody doubts how great Larry Bird was, all they have to do is listen to the guys who competed against him night in and night out. You will never hear Larry Bird tooting his own horn on how great he thinks he was.... he never has too!
FINALLY THE TRUTH CAME OUT. TODAYS NBA IS SOFT I TOLD YOU JJ REDICK DON'T KNOW NOTHING......😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well, that's because JJ didn't say that. He said there was no physicality in the perimeter, specifically.
If you go back and watch a game from the 80s you'll notice there's none picking up their man outside the 3-point line.
People are ignoring the whole context of the conversation. JJ was referring to Bird and Steph strictly as shooters, and according to the context, he is not wrong. People in the 80s were not worried about guarding 3s because it was an inefficient shot, even for good shooters (at the time) like Larry. If the offense took a 3, it was good defense. That's not how the game is played today. The 80s obviously had more phisicality, with the illegal defense, hand-checking, hard fouls and whatnot, i don't think JJ is arguing with that
They just want to be mad about something without knowing what they are even arguing 😂
No JJ said Curry faces the same physicality coming off screens, getting held, getting bumped and fouled. That's what he mentioned.
It’s crazy how insecure and defensive old heads are about basketball from the 80s and 90s. JJ was only talking about getting 3 point shots off. It’s undoubtedly way harder for steph to get a 3 point shot off then Larry bird. JJ even admitted it was more physical in the paint mainly because no one guarded the 3 point line back then so there was more people around the basket but old heads again are so insecure and trying to preserve the basketball from that time it’s wild
That's why I just watch highlights of the modern NBA. No way in hell I'm watching a game with no defense an everyone just chucks threes. I'll RUclips an 80s era game
No that’s not what reddick said. He said on 3POINT ATTEMPTS curry faces more physicality than Larry did on 3POINT ATTEMPTS. and it is 100% true go look up a compilation of Larry hitting 3s in game there is no one within 5 feet of him. Go look at curry’s people are draped on him grabbing him around screens.
Physicality one 3 point shots? 😂😂😂. Stop it. No one in the nba plays defense
Don’t let the facts get in the way of old heads stories
Which is a bad argument by Reddick. He ignored the fact that Larry averaged only TWO 3pt shots a game in his career while Steph averages NINE 3pt shots a game (so far) in his career. Also to point out that he averages atleast ELEVEN 3pt shot attempts per game since the 3pt shooting era started in 2015/2016.