Fun Fact: You should NOT try to play a Betamax tape in a VHS machine, Nor a MiniDisc in an 8-Track player. Join me on my next TED talk about things NOT to do while high.
When I was 16 a friend and I were hanging out and we decided to see what would happen if we put the magnetic media from a 3+1/2 floppy disk in to the DVD drive on a PC. The tray opened up, the magnetic plastic plus metal hub set perfectly in the middle, the drive closed, the drive struggled to do anything. When I pushed the tray open button the tray slid out but the disk was GONE! Turns out the mechanism inside for holding a CD/DVD had magnetic tension so the steel insert in the centre of the 3+1/2 disk had stuck perfectly on to the magnets.... My friend laughed uncontrollably... Took an hour to get it out with careful tweezering.
Fun fact: Betamax doesn't fit or look like it would fit in a VHS, and neither does a MiniDisc in regards to an 8-track player. Vinyl _does_ fit on a gramaphone, and the technology looks remarkably similar to those who don't know much about the differences or what to look for. Try harder next time, and come up with better examples...then it'll be funny.
@@tiredoftheliesalreadyI said "while high..😵💫So the examples are supposed to be absurd. And the channels owner thought it was funny and even "hearted" it.🤔 Plus a MiniDisk is much smaller than an 8track. You certainly CAN put a MiniDisk in an 8Track deck. You'd have to disassemble it to get your disk back.
Thanks for the advice. I always wondered what WOULD happen if you were to play a more modern or contemporary record on an old-school gramophone (especially a wind-up one.)
2 of my recently purchased vinyls are scratched but they didn't deserve that pain! 😭😭 I hope someone knows how to re clean them and bring them back to a state like they are brand new!
Considering that your 'gramophone' is actually a crapophone (a badly made Indian fake antique), you shouldn't even play decent 78s on it: it will chew them up as well. Also, late electric 78s, from the mid 1930s on, should not be played on any acoustic machine. Those records were made with softer shellac, designed to be played with lighter electric pickups, and did not have the fillers that would shape the needle into compliance with the record groove. Furthermore, they were recorded with much higher modulation, which can damage older reproducers. If you have a *genuine* acoustic horn gramophone, generally stick to acoustic recordings from before 1925 or so. The somewhat later 'Orthophonic', 'Viva-Tonal', and similar acoustic machines from the late '20s, were better designed for early electric records.
What really annoys me is that most records don’t even say when they came out, so you have to look it up on Discogs. On the plus side, if a 78 specifically says the speed is 78, you know it came out *after* the LP was invented in the late 1940s, hence the need for that distinction.
@@nnewt8445 True. No one before 1948 called shellac 78 RPM records "78s" they were just called "records" (many were cut at 80 RPM too, so there's that!) "78s" is a "retronym", just like when people today call LPs and 45's "Vinyl" or even though SOME are actually NYLON.
There are a few easy ways to tell old records age. VICTOR was VICTOR TALKING MACHIE until purchase in 192i. If any mention of RCA tn combination with "talking machine" its from 1928 to 1933 transitin, after wards mention of talking machine dropped. VICTORS with "0rthophonic" or "VE" on label from 1924 to 1930. Columbias saying "VivaTone" early electric. Any brand of 1920s record having lightning bolts, ⚡ on labels like Edison needle, or "ELECTRIC" 'Electrical process" "New Process"' or capitol Eoldef near center of record or printed on label sometimes near number is mid20s to early 30s ( 3837 E) After about 1933 "all" records were electric, so designation dropped.
You could use a modern needle or stylus and retrofit it to a horn. You could also use an old timer ear phone and hook it up to the cartridge and use a horn to amplify the sound. It won't ruin you collection and you will have some volume. It's best just to play acoustical records on the old phonograph and play newer records on an old stereo. Mono records should be played on a hi fi record player and stereo records using a stereo cartridge and stylus I was also told a wired stereo cartridge can be hooked up to a mono record player. If you don't have a stereo record player. Some mono stylus can ruin a stereo record. You need to match up record to cartridge types. This is old school music reproduction. Some things should be played on the era equipment that it was made for. You can backwards a CD to an old tube amp but to play old music recordings don't play on modern equipment. My 45 don't fit in my CD player or could play if it could fit. Two different eras for music. 73
You sure there’s not too much tracking force on a gramophone arm? Because that’s my main concern - even a dinky little Crosley player is notorious for eating the records it was designed for.
@@nnewt8445 that has nothing to do with using a modern tone arm on an old record player. Modern tone arms has much lighter tracking. It depends on the record on how much tracking is right old records can have more weight. A hifi record player arm was heavier but didn't hurt any of my old mono records. I would not play stereo records on a mono record player unless I wire a stereo cartridge and adjust the wright. A talking book tone arm was heavy but maybe because the spring was missing I remember the spring coming undone and the tone arm was too heavy and you could hear the difference (more distortion). Bottom line just use modern turn tables for modern records. Every manufacturing company claims theirs is the best do your own research and not listen to a salesman. 73
Very nice to hear what it would sound. What about putting a gramophone record into a modern record player? If you can't play modern records onto a classical phonograph, why not the other way around. Who's to say it would work. I wouldn't be too suprised.
You can and I do but ideally it should actually support 78 RPM and you should have a larger stylus for the wider grooves of old shellac records because the normal LP size would just sink to the bottom of the groove and not read it properly, making the infamous swishing noise. Whether to use a stereo cartridge or a true mono cartridge is a topic of much debate and depends on use cases such as casual listening vs. archiving and how you want to go about the latter. Stereo lets you pick the less noisy groove wall but mono has less surface noise overall because mono cartridges don't read verticality which the standard laterally cut 78 RPM records don't have anyway. Pathé records and Edison Diamond Discs are vertically cut records however.
You shouldn’t play ANYTHING on those old things unless they’re already screwed. I have nice rock 78s and they get a standard ceramic cartridge with a proper stylus at 4.5 grams. It’s futile to play 78s with a magnetic cartridge at 2.5 grams - they’re just too noisy; they need a bit more pressure because the grooves are gigantic compared to modern vinyl.
There are magnetic cartridges that are recommended to track heavier. AT-MONO3SP T 5g, MP-110 with a wider stylus at 3g or higher (normally up to 2g for vinyl), and others.
@@charlottewhyte9804 yes agree. Vinyl no the speed is too fast to play a 45 or slower and the needle is just what it is a needle. Vinyl records need a stylus and cartridge with proper tracking. 73
I actually got a modern record to play on my Victor 8 phonograph. I got a somewhat modern stylus and fit it into the needle connector in the reproducer. Had to be slightly bent to ride the grooves. Then rigged up a rod on the reproducer with counterweights to lighten the weight of the reproducer / needle on the record. It played. I can't say it didn't skip a couple of times, it did but it did play without damaging the record. Didn't sound great though. What record did I use? A 12 inch single of Anita Ward "Ring My Bell" as seen in the movie Book Of Eli. Just had to do it. My phonograph has a pitch control where I can go above 78 RPM and lower than 16 RPM. Also in experimenting with this phonograph, I got it to record on a blank compact disc by attaching a speaker to the reproducer and had to hold the reproducer as it cut thru the cd with the music playing to try to keep an even cut groove. Didn't sound great, but was clear enough that the reproducer took the vibration of the speaker playing the music and cut that vibration into the cd.
I recently inherited a pretty good size collection of 78rpm records. Now, I just need to find a gramophone to play them on (but I suspect I’ll end up buying a special cartridge and stylus so that I can play them on one of my Pro-Ject turntables instead)
Wind up record players are yes made for shellac 78s not modern Vinyl records.But you can play a shellac 78 record on a modern 3 or 4 speed record player
I used to play old records on my hi fi and turned down the treble to get rid of the noise. It's like I never listen to Rock and Roll. I didn't fit well with my peers but I got an appreciation for big band and early modern music. I did have some R and R favorites but my favorite genre was beautiful music and Classical music and of course Big Band music. It's funny you stick with what you grew up listening to. 73
@@ronb6182 It can also play doo-wop, early rock & roll 78’s from the 1950’s on a wind phonograph or gramophone. I have a bunch of 78’s from the 1950’s and it plays good on a gramophone. I remember listening to “A Thousand Miles Away” by the Heartbeats and “A Sunday Kind Of Love” by the Harptones or “Goodnight Sweetheart Goodnight” by the Spaniels, they all sounded good on my Victor Orthophonic VV 8-4.
The grooves of modern records are narrower and smaller, and the needle of old players is very thick, the weight that this needle exerts on the record is also very strong,For these reasons, For this reason, playback will always repeat the same groove track on the disc. And the weight will also ruin it.
Um YES...and NO. Early NON EDISON disk records had only a "side to side" modulation. Edison disk records ("Diamond Disk"s) used an "up and down" modulation. (Edison's cylinder records ALSO use a vertically modulated groove). "Modern" stereo (Post 1958) records used (and still do..) use BOTH! (needed for 2 channel sound..). The BIGGEST problem with playing an LP or 45 on anything designed for 78 RPM records is: 1, Obviously the SPEED is wrong for both. 2, LPs and 45's are "microgroove" records. a 78 rpm stylus is just too big and will gouge the grooves. Record players form the 1950's till the 1980's often had a "flippable" stylus carrier with one for 78's and the other for LPs/45s for this very reason.
You are my hero thank you. I tried playing a new record on my antique phonograph and it kept skipping. Any way to fix this or its just won’t work to play new records on old antique turntables?
It will not cause damage provided you have the proper 3 mil stylus to play old gramophone 78 records on a modern turntable,and should of course play 78rpm,if you play a microgroove stylus it will sound poor and could cause damage to needle.
I'm sure that Lionel Richie record was made out of styrene also. A regular vinyl record may be minutely more forgiving, but definitely don't try it at home. You basically re recorded it. That is a great demo.
couldn't a finer thinner needle be used that would play on the finer 45 rpm record tracks . the 78 records had large music tracks and the old record players had large needles to play in the larger sound tracks .
You can play vinyl mate on gramophones but it has to be 78 rpm I’ve been doing it for ages absolutely fine. 45 rpm however are actually shite and shouldn’t be done on a gramophone
Are there any modern shellac records you can play on your gramophone? Fortionatly you can easly get vinyl records nowadays cuz they are made again, what about shellac ones? Also, can you play a shellac record on a modern record player?
It's absurd to put a disc on a gramophone that's not in the right format. Start with a 78 rpm disc, then it'll work. It's not a problem of recording era. You could very well record today's music on a 78 rpm disc.
Hello. Since this shows that modern records cannot be played on old gramophones because of the different material and revs. Is it possible to RECORD, modern songs on a Shellac 78, then play it on a grammophone? Thank you.
This is getting deep. You could use the turntable and then use a tone arm and hook it up to the old high impedance earphone. You will have to slow the turntable down to 45 or 33 and 1/3 rpm. I don't think you will get good results using the horn. Head and earphones would work better in this experiment. It's something you might get your child interested in. We did a similar experiment using a straight pin and a milk carton on a record player. It ruined the record if it wasn't already but you did hear sound. 73
I think you can l, when the Amplifier quit I could still hear the record playing from the stylus and cartridge . If there is a will there is a way. It may not be practical but it may have better results. Mods need to be done on equipment you cannot expect to just put a record on and play with the wrong needle. Even a 78 will ruin with an LP stylus. Both could be damaged . 73
@@pip5528 I played the “Pinocchio” soundtrack 78 on my Victor Orthophonic and they sound pretty darn good. I played “When You Wish Upon A Star” on my windup phonograph and it sounds amazing. I also tried to play doo-wop from the 1950’s on my windup phonograph and it sounds not too bad depending how loud it is.
@@recordsnphonographs7263 I don’t remember why I posted that comment. But I did watch the whole video, and you never commented on that, you only commented on the tracking weight of the gramophone stylus.
Please for your sake get a real antique phonograph. What you have is an Indian crap-o-phone. A modern reproduction with poor quality materials and horrible quality. Get yourself something like a VV-IV or a VV-VI to start off. Perhaps a suitcase portable. Anything besides that modern piece of junk.
At least someone is making new old stock it's for people who cannot afford to buy an antique record player. It doesn't matter where it's made I seen worst in the stores made from China. 73
Fun Fact: You should NOT try to play a Betamax tape in a VHS machine, Nor a MiniDisc in an 8-Track player. Join me on my next TED talk about things NOT to do while high.
I’m laughing my ass off
Hey I was curiououous. Thanks for the enlightment at the cost of that fine muzak vinyl!
When I was 16 a friend and I were hanging out and we decided to see what would happen if we put the magnetic media from a 3+1/2 floppy disk in to the DVD drive on a PC. The tray opened up, the magnetic plastic plus metal hub set perfectly in the middle, the drive closed, the drive struggled to do anything. When I pushed the tray open button the tray slid out but the disk was GONE! Turns out the mechanism inside for holding a CD/DVD had magnetic tension so the steel insert in the centre of the 3+1/2 disk had stuck perfectly on to the magnets.... My friend laughed uncontrollably... Took an hour to get it out with careful tweezering.
Fun fact: Betamax doesn't fit or look like it would fit in a VHS, and neither does a MiniDisc in regards to an 8-track player. Vinyl _does_ fit on a gramaphone, and the technology looks remarkably similar to those who don't know much about the differences or what to look for. Try harder next time, and come up with better examples...then it'll be funny.
@@tiredoftheliesalreadyI said "while high..😵💫So the examples are supposed to be absurd. And the channels owner thought it was funny and even "hearted" it.🤔 Plus a MiniDisk is much smaller than an 8track. You certainly CAN put a MiniDisk in an 8Track deck. You'd have to disassemble it to get your disk back.
Thanks for the advice. I always wondered what WOULD happen if you were to play a more modern or contemporary record on an old-school gramophone (especially a wind-up one.)
0:50 sounds like a modern hip hop song intro, expected some voice to go “yeah” at the end
Man bro chose a Motown album to do this to
spoiler: half of today hip-hop music was created accidentally 😀
Great video!
But Lionel Richie did not deserve that pain😭
2 of my recently purchased vinyls are scratched but they didn't deserve that pain! 😭😭 I hope someone knows how to re clean them and bring them back to a state like they are brand new!
And that's how breakbeat was invented
Considering that your 'gramophone' is actually a crapophone (a badly made Indian fake antique), you shouldn't even play decent 78s on it: it will chew them up as well.
Also, late electric 78s, from the mid 1930s on, should not be played on any acoustic machine. Those records were made with softer shellac, designed to be played with lighter electric pickups, and did not have the fillers that would shape the needle into compliance with the record groove. Furthermore, they were recorded with much higher modulation, which can damage older reproducers.
If you have a *genuine* acoustic horn gramophone, generally stick to acoustic recordings from before 1925 or so. The somewhat later 'Orthophonic', 'Viva-Tonal', and similar acoustic machines from the late '20s, were better designed for early electric records.
Lol I know
What really annoys me is that most records don’t even say when they came out, so you have to look it up on Discogs.
On the plus side, if a 78 specifically says the speed is 78, you know it came out *after* the LP was invented in the late 1940s, hence the need for that distinction.
@@nnewt8445 True. No one before 1948 called shellac 78 RPM records "78s" they were just called "records" (many were cut at 80 RPM too, so there's that!) "78s" is a "retronym", just like when people today call LPs and 45's "Vinyl" or even though SOME are actually NYLON.
How can you tell its a fake?
There are a few easy ways to tell old records age.
VICTOR was VICTOR TALKING MACHIE until purchase in 192i. If any mention of RCA tn combination with "talking machine" its from 1928 to 1933 transitin, after wards mention of talking machine dropped.
VICTORS with "0rthophonic" or "VE" on label from 1924 to 1930.
Columbias saying "VivaTone" early electric.
Any brand of 1920s record having lightning bolts, ⚡ on labels like Edison needle, or "ELECTRIC" 'Electrical process" "New Process"' or capitol Eoldef near center of record or printed on label sometimes near number is mid20s to early 30s
( 3837 E)
After about 1933 "all" records were electric, so designation dropped.
You could use a modern needle or stylus and retrofit it to a horn. You could also use an old timer ear phone and hook it up to the cartridge and use a horn to amplify the sound. It won't ruin you collection and you will have some volume. It's best just to play acoustical records on the old phonograph and play newer records on an old stereo. Mono records should be played on a hi fi record player and stereo records using a stereo cartridge and stylus I was also told a wired stereo cartridge can be hooked up to a mono record player. If you don't have a stereo record player. Some mono stylus can ruin a stereo record. You need to match up record to cartridge types. This is old school music reproduction. Some things should be played on the era equipment that it was made for. You can backwards a CD to an old tube amp but to play old music recordings don't play on modern equipment. My 45 don't fit in my CD player or could play if it could fit. Two different eras for music. 73
You sure there’s not too much tracking force on a gramophone arm? Because that’s my main concern - even a dinky little Crosley player is notorious for eating the records it was designed for.
@@nnewt8445 that has nothing to do with using a modern tone arm on an old record player. Modern tone arms has much lighter tracking. It depends on the record on how much tracking is right old records can have more weight. A hifi record player arm was heavier but didn't hurt any of my old mono records. I would not play stereo records on a mono record player unless I wire a stereo cartridge and adjust the wright. A talking book tone arm was heavy but maybe because the spring was missing I remember the spring coming undone and the tone arm was too heavy and you could hear the difference (more distortion). Bottom line just use modern turn tables for modern records. Every manufacturing company claims theirs is the best do your own research and not listen to a salesman. 73
Very nice to hear what it would sound. What about putting a gramophone record into a modern record player? If you can't play modern records onto a classical phonograph, why not the other way around. Who's to say it would work. I wouldn't be too suprised.
you can do it, you just need a special needle and belt for the turntable
You can and I do but ideally it should actually support 78 RPM and you should have a larger stylus for the wider grooves of old shellac records because the normal LP size would just sink to the bottom of the groove and not read it properly, making the infamous swishing noise. Whether to use a stereo cartridge or a true mono cartridge is a topic of much debate and depends on use cases such as casual listening vs. archiving and how you want to go about the latter. Stereo lets you pick the less noisy groove wall but mono has less surface noise overall because mono cartridges don't read verticality which the standard laterally cut 78 RPM records don't have anyway. Pathé records and Edison Diamond Discs are vertically cut records however.
@@cowhydrodynamics Nice, we made basically the same point but I went into more detail since I figured it would help our friend here.
@@cowhydrodynamics Why would you need a (special) belt? Your machine either has the 78 speed or it doesn't.
You shouldn’t play ANYTHING on those old things unless they’re already screwed. I have nice rock 78s and they get a standard ceramic cartridge with a proper stylus at 4.5 grams. It’s futile to play 78s with a magnetic cartridge at 2.5 grams - they’re just too noisy; they need a bit more pressure because the grooves are gigantic compared to modern vinyl.
No shit lol did you watch the video ?
There are magnetic cartridges that are recommended to track heavier. AT-MONO3SP T 5g, MP-110 with a wider stylus at 3g or higher (normally up to 2g for vinyl), and others.
Playing normal period correct 78s is completely fine
agree totally
@@charlottewhyte9804 yes agree. Vinyl no the speed is too fast to play a 45 or slower and the needle is just what it is a needle. Vinyl records need a stylus and cartridge with proper tracking. 73
Videos are meant to be shot HORIZONTALLY!
I actually got a modern record to play on my Victor 8 phonograph. I got a somewhat modern stylus and fit it into the needle connector in the reproducer. Had to be slightly bent to ride the grooves. Then rigged up a rod on the reproducer with counterweights to lighten the weight of the reproducer / needle on the record. It played. I can't say it didn't skip a couple of times, it did but it did play without damaging the record. Didn't sound great though. What record did I use? A 12 inch single of Anita Ward "Ring My Bell" as seen in the movie Book Of Eli. Just had to do it. My phonograph has a pitch control where I can go above 78 RPM and lower than 16 RPM. Also in experimenting with this phonograph, I got it to record on a blank compact disc by attaching a speaker to the reproducer and had to hold the reproducer as it cut thru the cd with the music playing to try to keep an even cut groove. Didn't sound great, but was clear enough that the reproducer took the vibration of the speaker playing the music and cut that vibration into the cd.
1:08 Sounds a little bit like Artificial Intelligence or Cyantific DnB track.
I recently inherited a pretty good size collection of 78rpm records. Now, I just need to find a gramophone to play them on (but I suspect I’ll end up buying a special cartridge and stylus so that I can play them on one of my Pro-Ject turntables instead)
Why do you need a gramophone?
I was searching for this kind of test. Thanks for share with us!
Wind up record players are yes made for shellac 78s not modern Vinyl records.But you can play a shellac 78 record on a modern 3 or 4 speed record player
Your right I have my lp120 for my rare stuff
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And don’t forget modern vinyl 78 rpm records can only be played on a modern 4 or 3 speed record player
I used to play old records on my hi fi and turned down the treble to get rid of the noise. It's like I never listen to Rock and Roll. I didn't fit well with my peers but I got an appreciation for big band and early modern music. I did have some R and R favorites but my favorite genre was beautiful music and Classical music and of course Big Band music. It's funny you stick with what you grew up listening to. 73
@@ronb6182 It can also play doo-wop, early rock & roll 78’s from the 1950’s on a wind phonograph or gramophone. I have a bunch of 78’s from the 1950’s and it plays good on a gramophone. I remember listening to “A Thousand Miles Away” by the Heartbeats and “A Sunday Kind Of Love” by the Harptones or “Goodnight Sweetheart Goodnight” by the Spaniels, they all sounded good on my Victor Orthophonic VV 8-4.
good video! really informative and in depth for just 3 minutes!
Thank you
The grooves of modern records are narrower and smaller, and the needle of old players is very thick, the weight that this needle exerts on the record is also very strong,For these reasons, For this reason, playback will always repeat the same groove track on the disc. And the weight will also ruin it.
Damn!!! I would've paid $1000. for that record..
Lol sureeeeee
Dude at least $1200
U maniac!!!!
While the music is actually in the side of the groove in modern records it is different as far as I know
Um YES...and NO. Early NON EDISON disk records had only a "side to side" modulation. Edison disk records ("Diamond Disk"s) used an "up and down" modulation. (Edison's cylinder records ALSO use a vertically modulated groove). "Modern" stereo (Post 1958) records used (and still do..) use BOTH! (needed for 2 channel sound..). The BIGGEST problem with playing an LP or 45 on anything designed for 78 RPM records is: 1, Obviously the SPEED is wrong for both. 2, LPs and 45's are "microgroove" records. a 78 rpm stylus is just too big and will gouge the grooves. Record players form the 1950's till the 1980's often had a "flippable" stylus carrier with one for 78's and the other for LPs/45s for this very reason.
Pobre vinilo de 45 RPM al ser tocado por esa púa, la debe sentir hasta lo más profundo de su ser 😟
You are my hero thank you. I tried playing a new record on my antique phonograph and it kept skipping. Any way to fix this or its just won’t work to play new records on old antique turntables?
Have you ever played a gramophone record on a modern record player? Does it do damage? If so, make a video about it!
No, the gramophone records grooves are wider than microgroove vinyl records and it will not damage it.
It will not cause damage provided you have the proper 3 mil stylus to play old gramophone 78 records on a modern turntable,and should of course play 78rpm,if you play a microgroove stylus it will sound poor and could cause damage to needle.
I'm sure that Lionel Richie record was made out of styrene also. A regular vinyl record may be minutely more forgiving, but definitely don't try it at home. You basically re recorded it. That is a great demo.
What movies have you seen has the part when they are playing vinyl on old gramophone?
What about the other way around; playing old records on newer record players?
couldn't a finer thinner needle be used that would play on the finer 45 rpm record tracks . the 78 records had large music tracks and the old record players had large needles to play in the larger sound tracks .
I imagine you can probably buy a gramophone lookalike to play vinyl records though.
You can play vinyl mate on gramophones but it has to be 78 rpm I’ve been doing it for ages absolutely fine. 45 rpm however are actually shite and shouldn’t be done on a gramophone
I played my 45 record on my homemade acoustic phonograph and it sounds fine on my turntable after that.
I used candle wax and dull the steel needle by playing an early 78 record for 6 seconds to reduce wear.
@@digidoridvideos3672 perhaps because is homemade…
@@Tmilitaria Yeah but it's an victor phonograph imitation so I glued the coins to my soundbox to weigh the same as an real soundbox would.
They aren't made of bugs but the bugs excrement it's the resen they used from the bugs excrement
Are there any modern shellac records you can play on your gramophone?
Fortionatly you can easly get vinyl records nowadays cuz they are made again, what about shellac ones?
Also, can you play a shellac record on a modern record player?
Try a cassette, can it play a cassetet, please help, I need for a party (work related)
Are you kidding me a Lionel Ritchie record.
Yup lol
@@recordsnphonographs7263 It’s “The Only One”, the B-side to “Love Will Conquer All”. I still have it.
It's likely the needle, though idk
Some gramophones are near perfectly capable of playing modern 45 and even 33 rpm records. Refer to videos on my channel for examples.
It's absurd to put a disc on a gramophone that's not in the right format. Start with a 78 rpm disc, then it'll work. It's not a problem of recording era. You could very well record today's music on a 78 rpm disc.
Is this first in the series "Obvious, Needless Lessons for Morons?"
Only a big fool would play vinyl records on a wind-up gramophone.
It was for educational purposes
That poor record !😮
Why don't u care about the record, it sounds awesome :(
why have a high-tech cell phone, and use it to take videos in a vertical position, rendering a video slit
bro what is that turntable 💀 shit looks like an actual toy
It is
Hello.
Since this shows that modern records cannot be played on old gramophones because of the different material and revs.
Is it possible to RECORD, modern songs on a Shellac 78, then play it on a grammophone? Thank you.
There are companies who make them but it’s 300$ per side I can’t afford that bs lol
@@recordsnphonographs7263
Expensive… but at least I know it’s possible.
I’m not doing it either. Lol.
I think some fool already recorded a Led Zeppelin on a 78 format just to say he played it on a victrola. Some people have too much money. 73
Why shoot vertical video for posting on RUclips? #TotalNonPro
With a real gramophone not a crapophone it is possible with bamboneedles
Is there a wind up record player that can play that record?
Nope only electric players only
This is getting deep. You could use the turntable and then use a tone arm and hook it up to the old high impedance earphone. You will have to slow the turntable down to 45 or 33 and 1/3 rpm. I don't think you will get good results using the horn. Head and earphones would work better in this experiment. It's something you might get your child interested in. We did a similar experiment using a straight pin and a milk carton on a record player. It ruined the record if it wasn't already but you did hear sound. 73
You can only play 78 rpm records on a gramaphone
Can't you just modify it with a modern needle?
It’s not possible because it’s basically kinda like playing a cd in a cassette player there different formats
Gramophones were designed for 78 RPM shellac records exclusively so no.
I think you can l, when the Amplifier quit I could still hear the record playing from the stylus and cartridge . If there is a will there is a way. It may not be practical but it may have better results. Mods need to be done on equipment you cannot expect to just put a record on and play with the wrong needle. Even a 78 will ruin with an LP stylus. Both could be damaged . 73
@@pip5528 I played the “Pinocchio” soundtrack 78 on my Victor Orthophonic and they sound pretty darn good. I played “When You Wish Upon A Star” on my windup phonograph and it sounds amazing.
I also tried to play doo-wop from the 1950’s on my windup phonograph and it sounds not too bad depending how loud it is.
these gramophones can only play 78s, not 45s or others!!!
Dosnt skip at all lol
That needle is too wide for the groove of the record.
Yes I know if you watch the video I explain everything
@@recordsnphonographs7263 I don’t remember why I posted that comment. But I did watch the whole video, and you never commented on that, you only commented on the tracking weight of the gramophone stylus.
Please for your sake get a real antique phonograph. What you have is an Indian crap-o-phone. A modern reproduction with poor quality materials and horrible quality. Get yourself something like a VV-IV or a VV-VI to start off. Perhaps a suitcase portable. Anything besides that modern piece of junk.
Literally look at my other videos this was for science lol
@@recordsnphonographs7263 understandable. just looking out for another collector. gotta be on your toes for th best playback methods
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Shame on you!!! U destroyed a very good Lionel Richie song.
Haha this is Indian made fake phonograph. It's newly made junk.
It sure is lol
@@recordsnphonographs7263 This is my phonograph! ruclips.net/video/ssjBKBjIi9I/видео.html
At least someone is making new old stock it's for people who cannot afford to buy an antique record player. It doesn't matter where it's made I seen worst in the stores made from China. 73
But this fake indian machines are as much as an original vintage gramophone. these fakes ruin 78s@@ronb6182