BMW M2 - My initial thoughts, exhaust sounds, joy ride with friends etc.
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- DOH! - I kept saying DTC not DCT gearbox haha sorry!
After a handful of drives and two weeks of M2 ownership, I thought I'd share my thoughts. I also included some driving clips with exhaust sounds. And lastly I popped over to take my buddy Will and his Sister Louise out for a blast, I think these driving clips really translate the M2 experience...
I plan to do M135 vs M2 & M2 vs M3/4 vids after Gumball.
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Thank you :-)
thank you for driving an M car like it should be driven.though you're keeping it under 5.5k you still drive it like a champion and this is why i subscribed.cars like this are supposed to be pushed
+phantom2k10 Haha cheers man :-)
Took a 3 hour test drive on weekend. Dct , most amazing drive I've ever had . Power Grip and Turn in is amazing, and ohhhhh that sound !!!!!!
Deposit down . Now the 6 month wait for 1 :( . Hurry up please mr BMW .
Finally a car that brings smiles back . I love this car!
Glad you liked it, it really is one of the greatest drivers cars on the planet! 6 months isn't too bad, which country are you from? Cheers
+Joe Achilles Australia . Dealer just rang and said dec 20 delivery . Initially they said 12 months wait then 6 now it looks like 3.5 months . Wooooohooo!
Why the long wait? I live in California and I got mine in two months. FTR, I also own a 2013 E92 and after driving the M2 for a week now, I still prefer my E92. IMO, the E92 looks, sound and steer much better. The only thing the M2 is better is getting out of the hole. There are so many things I'd change in this car. For one, I wished it had a dedicated M engine. Knowing BMW, that's in the future. I'd change the wheels to all satin finish and not black or at least it should be an option. I'd lower the body to at least the top of the tires. It sits higher than my E92. The seats could be better. It'll probably grow on me but for now, my E92 is king of the road.
Why the long wait.... I posted this over 6 months ago! Also you live in California. Glad your E92 is king of the road, good for you mate
does anyone know how long the waiting list is now in the uk
I bet everyone who says that it's under powered are just stupid and have never even driven a car with that kind of power. They watch all the super/hyper-car videos on the internet and think that every car should be as fast as those cars.
My M3 has 343hp and I wouldn't want any more than that in a long time! It's even too much on the track IMO.
Adam Andersson
ya fakn right about dat ya wanka
Watched several videos on the M2, the Competition and the CS, and you’re the first to help me understand the difference between the M2 as a sports car and the likes of the 135/235 - when starting to push the 8/10ths and beyond to a loss of grip the M2 makes you feel totally secure when it does so the lateral moving of the tail feels natural and fun. As opposed to 135 and co feeling twitchy and resulting in a loss of confidence. Cheers Joe
Aw mate just watching this back again.. That noise and exhaust burble. . 💙 Just a wonderful review. The N55 sounded so good.
If the M2 isn't a real M car than I have no idea what a real M car is. I could care less about the mirrors or carbon fiber roof. Many legendary M cars didn't have those things either. Thanks for the video. I am still waiting for mine. Probably some time after August for me.
+T Bone I'll have to wait until September for mine and that is not certain either. It's an epic car.
Epic video - I just bought my M235i and I couldn't agree more with you regarding the ample power it produces - can't imagine how an M2 would shift. I think many people forget that usable power and on-paper figures are two very different things...
+Sarfraz Rathore Exactly and well summed up!
I ordered the M2C, can’t wait!
Can’t wait till I get my 2018 LBB M2. People said the 1M wasn’t a real M car, and now some consider it the best M car ever built.
As a M235i owner thanks for showing the contrast between the M2 and M235i. I love my M235i. The edginess of the M235i could be due to the M2 has a 2 inch wider wheel track and wider wheels but I have taken it to some country roads and it gives me all that I want. I was able to keep up in the corners with a late model Porsche 911 non-S recently.
+Chad Steelmon Yeah the M235i is one hell of a car, as I mention in the video the main differences are when you really start pushing on, the M2 gets excited whereas the M135 & 235 get a bit scary haha.
Ah yay thanks Louise! X
Well said - you've summed up exactly what M division is all about. Test drive and ordered my M2 last week. A fantastic car.
my m235i breaks the rear end loose in gears 1-4. has plenty of power stock. If this M2 has more than that it should be all good. Iv logged 32000 miles on the m235i. all spirited driving and the car still drives like the day i bought it. Most enjoyable car i have ever owned to date. Cant wait to get my hands on a m2. Congrats dude.
Was your m235i a manual? I’ve had a ZF8 for the last 3 years and within a month I became relatively bored, wanting to shift my own gears
Totally agree with you. There are many people out there who don't even own a car commenting on 'lack of power' of certain cars and yes, they are totally lost, caught up in the power trap of more is better!
Agree. 365 bhp in car that small is a lot, I'd bet they crap them selfs if they put their foot to the floor in one
Must get one. The exhaust sounds so sublime.
Your videos are what has made me decide to save for a couple years and buy an m2! I can't wait to own one☺
So what spec is it?
We need cars like this in our lives, I can feel a bit ill or have a bad day at work, and immediately feel better when I get in my car for the drive home, awesome machine man, I would say enjoy, but it looks like you already are, cheers.
+Scott Schmidt So true man, this car even cures "man flu" haha
Hi Joe! Thanks for the videos! This comment is too late but I have just traded in my 2016 M135i LCI Xdrive for an 2018 LCI M2. I had real fun with the M135 in the 3 years of ownership, I live in Sweden so the Xdrive was a pearl to have with the wonderful N55 engine.
I agree with you about how anyone who is saying that this car is not an M car knows nothing and never have driven one for sure. The straight performance is near, but you feel the difference in everything else, the steering, braking and most important the suspension! the way this thing swipes through corners is just a reminder av the E92 M3 (other M car i drove). The M135 is really good to "mild" driving, on the edge it just reminds you that this is the limit. The M2 is just a race car really adapted for the street, and you feel that quality when driving it!
One more thing! Even if the M135 or even the new M140 are fast, the way this engine sounds and behave is just amazing. The stock exhaust system is perfectly loud and pops and cracks when you want (even with a "secret" way to open valve exhaust even in comfort), and then silent when needed. I know everyone wants a loud car, but if you daily drive and 30+, you would appreciate why the german fellows did it that way :)
Just wanted to share my experience with another enthusiast, keep up the good work! :)
Thanks for sharing! I'm getting one in August here in the USA! LOVE the sound, BMW got it right this time around. Sounds VERY reminiscent of the old naturally aspirated V8 that sounds SO sweet to this day. Cheers, m8t!
+Lorenzo G Awesome and congrats on your new toy, bet you cant wait! Well worth the wait :-)
Joe Achilles Totally cannot wait! Thanks for the excellent videos that just pour all manner of Kerosene on what is already a gasoline FIRE of excitement! Congrats 2 U as well. Cheers, m8t
Cracking video again buddy. You always say how it is which I like. I totally agree and you are the reason why I got my M135i because you bring everything down to earth, you speak how we us normal folk want to hear!! Cheers again chap 😎👍
+Russ Clark Haha yeah I need to watch my words a bit more.... Yeah I'm pride myself on being totally honest mate.
Finally got round to watching this, brilliant video. I couldn't agree with you more, the M2 is an epic car and in my personal opinion. It's a proper M car. Love the videos man. Keep'em coming!!
Cheers buddy :-)
I got the white m235i just two weeks ago. Amazing car. Just ordered myself some black Breyton GTS rims. Cant wait.
Hi Joe, just watching this video now as I am due to pick up my 17 plate M2 at the weekend. This car looks like such epic fun, and cannot wait to see what it's capable of! - I have NEVER driven a BMW before in my life, so this will be an interesting experience for sure! Cheers mate, take care.
Just been watching shmee and your driving the ABT,didn't realise it was you in all the films with him for some reason.another cracking film mate see you on Monday in Manchester hopefully.
love the straight up approach at the beginning haha. "bullshit" "bollocks" ahaha. great video as always Joe. Car looks and sounds great and glad that you're enjoying it. Seems nice and controlled when pressing on!!! you nutter!!! hahah
+Dan Brown Haha Cheers Dan :-)
Thanks to bumping into your vids. I'm getting myself an M2 in Blue! Unfortunately it'll only come by next month =/ But it'll be worth the wait! Gave mum the M135i and the 130i to me bro. Still need a compact car, almost got the A45 AMG and thank god I didn't! I fell in love with the M2 as soon as I heard it turn on and took it out for a test drive lol. It's more fun to drive than our E60 M5. But anyhow, thanks for the vids! Keep em comin! =)
+Baharshatri Rashid Cheers man & great to hear!
Thx bud, I hear ya, I picked up a 2017 DCT(white w/standard exhaust) about 3 weeks ago and although I love the car coming from my S5, I know I'd have more fun with the manual(being in Canada probably better for winter too). They only had the DCT ,and I wanted it so bad(last one in Canada for 6 months); so I just ordered a manual(mineral grey w/m performance exhaust). It should arrive for July. Until then life could be worse being stuck with this version. Love the content, keep it up. Take it easy man!
So jealous I want to order one of these but really don't want to wait 2 years! Sounds amazing no wonder you love it.
+TaxaTV Cheers man
Very good review, I agree with everything you mentioned. People saying its not a proper M car don't know what they talking about.
+///MPOWER 9 Cheers man glad you agree!
Another reason why I can't wait for my M2, great video Joe.
+Rob Lombardi Cheers man, well worth the wait!
you make the best reviews honestly. and I love watching you drive. Excellent driving.
+ThePhonecat Cheers man that means a lot!
Great vlog Joe - Your warts and all approach is excellent but despite the little quirks, your M2 is a serious piece of kit and without doubt a genuine 'M' car - ignore the doubters bud, enjoy your car and keep up the excellent work - it'll be good to see as the M2 loosens up over the next few thousand miles!
Why did you get a DCT and not a manual?
Excellent review mate ! Don't lose your time with haters. You enjoy it 100% and we can see that. The rest is irrelevant.
Hey man, been watching your videos for a couple of weeks now.. I stumbled upon your channel looking at M135i videos, I ordered one just over a month ago, love your content and reviews! keep up the good work.
Absolotely adore it Joe. Couldn't be more jealous.
+luke simpson Haha cheers buddy!
Great car and review keep up the great work ,see you in a few days for Gumball in London!
+LDN Wheels Cheers man, did I meet you in London in the end?
Unfortunately not :( stayed for a few hour but my girl didn't want to stay out any longer in the great English weather so left after 4 wish I think.
Oh thats a shame, by the time we arrived the shitty weather had cleared up luckily! See you next time :-)
I test drove what might be ;-) ;-)my M2 last week and it was missing the Louise option, I will have to speak to my dealership about this, I'm very angry about this :-D It's because of Seb's video with you going to take your first look at your M2 that peaked my interest also seeing Tim(Shmee) driving one around on he's European tour has made me aware of this car. Thank you and keep up the good videos.
that car is absolutely stunning.
Nice review and congrats to the ownership of the new BMW M2! I also recently got to test it and for me it's the best M car out there currently!
Just ordered mine.
Long Beach Blue
DCT
Visibility Package
Harmon Kardon
Folding Electric Anti Dazzle Mirrors
Heated Seats
Electric Seats with Memory
Thanks for being so informative Joe. really helped to make my mind up :)
Awesome man glad to hear :-)
Brilliant review, nice to hear someone talk sense
Good review! I agree with you completely👍👍
+Mind Control Media Cheers man :-)
Jeremy Clarkson said in the Sunday Times that the M2 is the greatest M car ever. Even greater than the E28 M5. Coming from him that is high praise. Congrats on the new car
+Ian Townsend Yeah although he gave the M135i top marks for the times, then slated it on Top Gear because he ran out of talent haha. But yeah probably does give M2 more residuals :-)
Good stuff Joe, just stumbled on your channel and love the videos! Been looking into an M2 myself lately :)
Awesome great to hear thanks! Do it.... haha
Indeed, looking into it! Getting an allocation appears to be the hard part at this point.
i think i will get the blue color one.
Covered a lot in this, nice video Joe!
+Adam London Cheers man
I'm in love with this car. Would do unspeakable things to be able to trade in my MK7 R and afford the M2. Cheers and thanks for the uploads :)
Those with negative comments are idiots and the reason BMW has stopped making proper cars. The last great car BMW made was the e46 M3. It's been 15 freaking years because of BMW catering to people who have no idea what a driver's car is. This is more of an M car than anything produced by BMW in 15 years. They made one decent car since, the 1M and didn't even produce enough to go around.
I currently have an M235i and I'm waiting for my M2 to arrive in November. I was going to do a comparison video but you've beat me to it haha! The only thing I would have liked are some upgraded seats (just set it apart from the M235i) not the big M3/4 seats as they wouldn't fit but some lighterweight ones, some Recaros or something or even just make them look a little more like race seats haha. Less weight overall would have been good but I still have a feeling a CSL or GTS version will be on it's way. Gonna make sure my names on the list early for that so I'm not waiting for over 12 months haha! Like you say it's all about how they drive and not what the paper stats say. Can't wait to drive it!
Chris Dorgan im waiting :)
haha, it arrived, I can write all of the difference etc and my initial thoughts (only had it 2 weeks or so) but it'll take me ages to try and film something, never done that before... also I forgot to get any b roll of the M235i.
Yess, exactly what I wanted to see! Great video
+Mohammad Zohaib Cheers man
do you feel the crooked seat?
you can feel it, but its not enough to stop 1 from buying this amazing machine
Got to drive the M2 for approximately 15km 2 weeks ago. I didn't notice it at all.
don't listen to the haters buddy . the car looks and sounds awesome. great channel to
+Chris King Cheers buddy
After almost 2 years of owning it and with the rumoured M2 CS coming in the summer whats your thoughts?
Great fun review. Congrats sir and you look very happy which is exactly what the experience is suppose to bring.
///M power for ever :)
+rokan81 Cheers man
have fun on gumball joe!
+Arjan Pauw Cheers man
Well said Joe, the m2 is every bit an m car just listen to the bloody thing! Jealousy is the greatest form of flattery mate. I'm so bloody jealous!!!!
+Mike Holt Haha cheers Mike
This is the perfect car for gumball, you can offer a team and ask them if they're interested in using your car as the luggage carrier along the way while having fun!
Phenomenal little machine but I think it would be a bit out of its depth at gumball with the veyrons, p1's....
But it's brand new and could.... Oh wait.
Phantoms do exactly the same thing and suit the theme!
Now that I saw Car Throttle's "How To Be a BMW Driver". It all matches up!
It's kinda shows your "Achilles" within your personality! 😂
Yeah thats basically me haha
Oh, and by the way, an E46 M3 is still to this day a 'Monster Killer', its that good and so far ahead of its time!
+Shredded Tyres Very true!
I that car too, it looks amazing and sounds amazing, your a lucky guy Joe.
+Nick Fox Cheers Nick, I do appreciate how lucky I am :-)
Nice review Joe 100% agree with you about m135i , I'm on my second one and off to motech for springs and spacers !
My next car will be an m2 (funds permitting) I drove m4 and m2 at brands , hands down the m2 is the better drivers car👍🏽
Lovely car, Joe! M135i or M235i is an amazing car for the money but this must be on another level when you really start pushing it Anyway, I'd love to to hear your thoughts about why you went for DCT instead of manual in the next video. I love 1M so manual would have been my choice though you can't beat the speed of DCT.
Amazing joe :) i can't wait for my M2 :)
HI Joe - great video - looking forward to the longer M135 vs M2 video as well. Still got 6 months wait on my order... :-(
Gone for Black+DCT and black grill + service plus package. Still not managed to get a test drive, so hope I have gone for best gearbox option. Cheers !
black kidney grilles have made this car PERFECT. awesome video Joe
you're awsome man, my two passions are moutain biking and cars as well!! Keep on going!
I really enjoyed all the 23 minutes! nice work! and please make place for Louise in your videos! cutie ;)
Excellent thank you! Yeah I should have got Lou to sit up front haha
How do you compare the ZF8 box in a M135i to a DCT in the M2? I xHP mapped my ZF8 box, to change gears as quicker, or quicker than a DCT, and certainly has a faster change down.
@joeachhiles No video on why you sold this. Was it because you wanted the M2 Competition instead?
Nicely produced review,thks.
Wow! That sound!
fantastic video and superb car!
+scott Thorne Thanks buddy!
13:10 actually i think bigger rims gives you less grip off the line, (for example drag cars wheels) and again i think the reason for that big rim thin profile tires less flexible than small rim thick profile tries and that give it less resistance to torque on the wheel
Super car, I'm saving up.The girl in the back seat (Louise) is so sweet.
+oppanheimer Cheers man, yeah Louise is one of a kind! :-)
I'm looking for a new car now between the m2 and c43 amg. I live in Toronto which has a lot of snow and a long winter. Do you recommend me to get a M2? Because i'm a little concerned about this rear wheel drive beast.
The car is great, i wish they had amg like seats, do you agree
Picking up mine in a week, I can’t wait, been hooning around in a GR Yaris for a year , great car but it’s just not a BMW 😘
Does the manual gearbox make all those nice pops from the exhaust on downshifts like the dct does?
Joe, what microphone are you using for the rear exhaust shots? Just the Gopro in a W/P case, or external mic in the boot? I would love to get some video of my C63 exhaust!
+Tom Morley Just a 2nd GoPro on a suction cup mounted on rear bumper, using the bare "the frame" case though, much better for sound! Cheers
Excellent video. Amazing car
I saw one of these yesterday, and i just think it looks so much better than the M4, both very good looking but it is just something about a smaler car. Only thing I absolute hate about it is that it does not have a temp gauge for the engine, it the same on my fathers Volvo, You just never know when you can really floor it!
It does have a digital temp gauge thankfully 🖒
Does you M135i also have that?
+Henning Vaule Berntsen unfortunately not 👎
+Joe Achilles - Hi Joe - great video - i'm on the waiting list. Just one question regarding comfortable daily driving - would you compare M2 comfort mode to M4 sport plus mode? Since the M2 is track ready I was just wondering how rough (suspension) the daily driving will be? Would it be comfortable for a 5 hour road trip? Thanks!
Really enjoyed this.
For me one of the greatest M cars ever. I like the simpler more back to basics of this M car over the M3/M4 less tech is a plus side with cars like this. Also one very tall loud person agrees JC
Can you give your thoughts on the engine noise through speakers? Would the HK audio be a must?
Hey, I have mine coming in Jan, still a bit of wait, but super excited!
Out of interest, why are you selling it?
Absolutely love your car , I'm on my tenth
Bmw now and can't see past them .the black
With the black grille is nice ,great videos ,
Also love the d3 touring but stay in Scotland
And chose an X drive
I own 911turbo, m5 e39, AudiTTS , this car looks great I'd have this my collection any day , good honest video......
F*ck the negative comments
Haha Cheers man
When did you sell this Joe ? Worth an upgrade over a M140i ?
Hi Joe seriously love this car considering placing an order for one in the next few months your videos are very honest and informative. One thing I cant guage is your exhaust the stock one or is it the MPE model?
Standard buddy!
was that a standard exhaust? I've ordered an M2 due delivery in november been toying with M sport system but if thats standard i won't bother :) lovely note
Any plans to wrap that beautiful car?
Love the video and very very nice car. Not really a fan of black cars in general but this looks awesome in black
+Ross Johnson Cheers man, my first black car actually!
Great review Joe. This cars brilliance is pretty much summed up in the first 10 second of this vid. Love it. Dct Vs the 8 speed auto - which is nicer as a daily drive?
Joe, at 1:51 in the video when you're down shifting is it "auto-blipping" right there? So auto-blip is a feature in the automatic "as well as" the manual option? Also, is that the "stock" pipe or the performance exhaust? Thanks!
+Lorenzo G Yeah Auto Blip in Sports or Sports +, totally standard exhaust too. Cheers
Joe Achilles Awesome! Thanks for the reply. I cannot wait now! I love hanging out in Marlborough, Wiltshire county, London and my fav Alton Barnes! Cheers, m8t from Southern California!
Did you ever regret getting dct?
Hey Joe! Nice video! Did you notice some delay during downshifts? How do you compare the DCT against the Alpina D3 ZF 8 auto? Cheers!
Thanks for the great vids you're sharing, what a machine !
I have 2 questions, and i 'm sorry if you talk about these subjects in another vid but i haven't found it
- What made you go with the automatic gearbox ? I always felt like you were really hesitant between auto and manual (just like i am ! I do drive an auto 118i, and i'm considering getting a manual 228i for the end of this year, but i'm always changing my mind about the gearbox).
- Why are you keeping the m135i? Don't you feel like it's a duplicate kind of use?
Again, thanks for your amazing work here, cheers !
+Halfmoon67 Good questions... I went DCT because its such an incredible box when rely pushing on, perfect for a M car... Also keeping my manual M135i means I have both boxes. I'm keeping the 1 as my "practical" car to transport my mountain bike etc... Cheers man
Great car. Well done
Mine M2 is due in a couple of weeks....sapphire black with a few options. I've spec'd it as much as I could because I actually think it will do me for many many years (I will be replacing an F80 M3 Comp pack with it!)
Just juggling exhaust options...did you ever consider any Joe? The Akra is proper dollar.
Considering seeing if M3/M4 front seats fit as I love those.......
Your M2 videos have been a big help in my choices and man maths :)
Hi Joe, thanks for this great review of your car. Currently driving 1M I'm getting mine at the end of this month , can't wait. :) @ 1:59 you had some nice oversteer without TC off? Anyway I just subscribed. Enjoy your M2! Cheers Robin_NL(@ Bimmerpost)