TikTok: The Ultimate Chinese Propaganda Tool?
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Recently TikTok has begun facing increased scrutiny over their ownership and links to China. For a while people (including former President Trump) have worried about their links to China, but with new reports emerging it is worth questioning…
The best way to avoid the risks of tik tok is not using it. Probably better for society as a whole anyways
lol, ditto not to use smart phones, or anything that contains Chinese products or labour. We are long past isolation policy.
@@sablefilms First, not all smartphones are made in China.
Second, Tik Tok can be easily replaced with something safer and dedicated to just comunicating with who you want to comunicate with, like Signal (rather Whatsapp, because it is already too widespread and most don't even know about Signal and what open-source means).
Besides, how is Tik Tok as important as a smartphone. I've never had Tik Tok, Twitch, Twitter, Instagram and threw my Facebook account to the trash can 2 years ago because I was only using it to save progress in games I stoped playing.
RUclips is good enough and it is good for every kind of non-toxic content.
@@Hardcore_Remixer almost all things have Chinese raw materials, parts and labours, to avoid anything Chinese has been tried but proved futile. Sure, we can have all kinds of platforms to turn to but we can't avoid being spied on due to the necessity to keep data for all companies from microchips to media, cars etc. RUclips has an algorithm just like other platforms including Tik Tok. We are used to giving up our data but only screaming at those private companies owned by the Chinese. It's a bit biased.
@@sablefilms You're misunderstanding this. It's not just the fact it's the CCP, it's the fact that it gathers far more data than any other social media. That's the concern
Gotta hand it to the Chinese Government, they really found a neat trick to accelerate the dumbing down of the West! And I say accelerate because we were dumbing down already...
Banned in India. India also banning chinese smartphones below cost of 12k INR
But now not banning those phones.
Sane
Didn't trump ban it?
@@davidty2006 wdym
@@davidty2006 india was the first country to completely shut off tiktok
tiktok is with ByteDance and ByteDance is a Chinese company and every Chinese company needs to have a CCP member onboard so if the CCP it's army or anyone in the CCP wants personal data it will just take it from ByteDance, if the CCP want ByteDance promote propaganda then they have to do it.
Not jut a CCP member, an entire section of communist party members who report directly to the CCP.
Spot on. I came down here in the comments to find this. I'm surprised TLDR didn't even mention this huge elephant in the room.
Also, The U.S government can't confirm their relationship since all that economical activity occurs in China under the protection of the government
It is important to mention that in the same report "Tik Tok China employees had higher data access to USA data than US employees"
Also, TikTok can turn your plants gay, so keep that away from your hetrosexual plants.
It's also important to mention, that Vine had just closed down, which TikTok saw as an opportunity to expand into a western market.
It's a coincidence that TikTok grew really fast when Trump left office...
@@cameronfateweaver2206 ok?
@@ekksoku He wanted to mean that either Trump knew Tik Tok is not a good thing or whoever took his place allowed Tik Tok to expand.
One thing I've always found weird is that only the US seems to get these insane harmful trends taking off, even though I consume content in Spanish and Portuguese as well as English.
americans all hate ourselves its just self flagellating
@@asyncrevengance3322 honestly you could say the same thing about the other two; i even like to think of the social context in Latin America as an "endgame" of the pessimism that's growing in the US - the youth in Latin America has been cynical and alienated for much longer than their counterpart in the US.
It's karma, the USA did some questionable things in the past,
No, it happens in England as well.
We just had a major court case where a kids life support was turned off (against the wishes of his parents) because he was brainstem dead. A state which he brought upon himself by choking himself out as per... you guessed it, a viral tiktok trend.
Latin America has loads of misinfo on social media though
There has never been an app I've so deeply despised. From its hyper-addictive format to its insane push in vulgar content and straight data harvesting on an unprecedented scale, the app is cancer. I wish it got banned, and I hate the fact that Facebook, Instagram and RUclips have followed suit with their "Reels" or "Shorts".
Me too, Barnaby, me too.
I had the same reaction when Snapchat got copied in Facebooks "Stories" or whatever they are called.
They took a completely incompatible idea and molded their app around it. It's absurd. If I wanted to be sending vanishing photoes, I'd be using Snapchat. If I wanted super short, hurried, clickbaity videos, I'd be using TikTok.
By changing their app to steal another platform's user base, they made it worse for all the prior users, losing their unique service and identity in the process.
its so addictive, and the fact the other three have copied the format, the best thing I have done since deleting tiktok in januray was deleting youtube from my phone, and at this rate Instagram is on a shoogly peg as well.
Yes, I agree. Some videos with a bit of blood or something has been taken down but videos including nudity, threats and violence they haven’t even batted an eye to. It’s horrible
I have never downloaded TikTok and actively suggest that my friends and family delete it. I don’t mind the RUclips shorts, I think “the algorithm” knows what I like and gives me craft and news items rather than silly teenage trends or underage girls that is the default on many platforms. I am on the border of deleting Facebook but I think it has its uses with the marketplace and calendar/events and I use the messenger too much to remove. I don’t see any benefit of having TikTok at all
I deleted my Facebook account back in 2016 because I didn't want Füćķerberg to have access to my data so why would I download/use TikTok so Xinnie the Pooh can have it?
I don´t know how true it is, but I read somewhere that the algorithm that decides what the app shows you is very different from country to country, and the algorithm is one of the key aspects of tiktok: the subscription based interaction is not that present there. So it would be very very easy to tweak the algorithm to spread ideas, misinformation or just plainly dangerous acts in those "non friendly" countries.
I agree - I also read that TikTok videos can change the gender of your pet.
You do business with a Chinese company, you do business with the CCP. Either directly through the latter's declared ownership (or stake therein) or indirectly through the CEO's kids one day getting a nice ride home from a nice man from the Government a day after he refuses a 'request'. There's no Chinese version of "Whatsapp refuses to reduce its encryption".
Let's be honest, we wouldn't be losing much by banning tiktok. It's not an essential service that we need.
You can say that about nearly everything.
@@Infinitystar225 not really. RUclips actually has a lot of educational content. Tittok banned would just move that content to IG or RUclips but if RUclips was banned, that content (longer videos) wouldn’t be able to go to IG or Tiktok.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson you can't call it essential though.
@@Infinitystar225 I would call it essential much like I would call tv essential. Sure we can live without it unlike food but it’s highly important.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson well your definition of essential is wrong.
Can't believe there isn't VPN sponsor for this episode
LOL, true
I actullay thought that Nord VPN was going to popup.
I actually stopped using instagram about the same time as "Reels" were introduced... I also blocked the RUclips "Shorts section" with uBlock as soon as it was introduced. I REALLY don't like these TikTok-style videos, which are enticing to click on, and then they just keep you glued to your screen for the next "fun thing"... Nope, TikTok-style entertainment is a big NO from me, I hate it. It's the worst of dopamine time thief you can find. And it doesn't help that you often find propaganda in a lot of these video snippets or the fact that these social media apps collect excessive amounts of data.
Thematic advice: Your catchy tune-stock footage mix leaves the channel feeling a bit much like Visual Politics, personally, I prefer your usual more professional look and feel.
It is banned in my country along with around 200 more chinese apps for last 2 years
god bless your country
India?
Best decision ever
Nice
You are lucky
Tik tok is what I like to call: digital opium.
Eh at least opioids have a use as a painkiller. TikTok is just a blackhole of time with minimal educational or entertainment value.
heh heh ironic
@@KommandantAegis oh occasionally there’s good stuff done in ultra short formats, but the interesting-brain melt ratio is not good.
Payback for the Opium Wars
@@Baffon100 haha, yeah
Any leader that approves of these companies or wont take them seriously should also be investigated.
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It's not "Anti-China" bias, it's "Anti CCP" bias (the distinction is important). Also, I'd say having an Anti CCP bias is on a level with having an Anti Murder bias, it's a bias that any decent person should have.
Dont google and facebook do all of this for a long time allready?
Goggle and Facebook didn't kill 70 million people in cultural revolution and great leap forward terror campaign
@@NihilistAlien neither did TIK TOK lol 🤣
Some videos on TikTok with a bit of blood or something has been taken down but videos including nudity, threats and violence they haven’t even batted an eye to. It’s horrible.
Ugh, I know - when I searched for TikToks about Jesus all it kept showing were TikToks about Catholic priests abusing children!
pls put the link to the nebula video in the video description next time
I have enough of a problem with my RUclips (non-short) addiction
Very well explained. Thank you for this.
Besides the topics of privacy and propaganda I also heard about concerns about tik toks algorithm pushing users towards more extreme opinions and topic. I believe the Wall Street Journal had a video about it for example. Any particular reason this aspect was not included here?
It was glossed over with the “banned topics” concept, what you’re talking about is part of the way that they ban content. If this were longer, it probably would have been discussed in depth, and it should be.
TikTok also monitors your clipboard to access eg. information used by password managers.
Why aren't you mentioning the UK data?
ohio?
Yeah, all reasons why I did not install tiktok. The way the ccp is set up means that any company with links to the ccp can't act independently.
Hi there, Ive been watching your videos for a while, and am currently subscribed to almost all channels. I find these videos to be very entertaining however a bit of feedback from me on this particular channel would be that the music and sound effects can be a bit aggressiv and it would be nice if those could be toned down a little. Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback, we’re trying something a bit different with this channel so we can adjust based on feedback like this
@@TLDRbusiness Always a pleasure :)
I don't get why TikTok gets blasted for privacy concerns when America has been collecting insane amounts of data from people for years through Alphabet, Meta, Apple, Microsoft and Amazon. Also, former government officials working at media companies isn't something only done in China. Former Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg now works for Meta as the president of global affairs for example.
I'm hardly a fan of the CCP, but i find it hypocritical that they often get criticised for doing things that the US and UK governments already do. If we only criticise the CCP then what's the difference between our media and their propaganda?
Western logic: do as we say NOT as we do!
Well said, western tech companies are collecting massive amounts of data which is being sold to advertisers and other companies building profiles of us. This isn't something that the governments are interested in though? Apple limited advertising on its platform claiming it respected the privacy of its users, but then moved to placing its own adverts, so now they are the ones controlling advertising data!
One reason I have why I haven't used or created any account on TikTok is because its from China. Democratic countries does have their own set of problems, but problems from a Communist country is something I especially don't want to be in.
The CCP never regards privacy on their citizens. They even have cameras all over their cities and your credit status is tightly connected to that. The CCP also have full control over companies, and they can always ask them to provide all details they want. That includes your personal information.
Ah, whataboutism, the best type of counter-argument
Its not hypocrisy to have an argument about who gets to hold a loaded gun. One person holding it is not the same as any other person holding it.
In this conversation, everyone has one, and everyone's asking why we keeping giving the guy who steals everything, abuses everyone without exception, and constantly tells everyone he will enslave them, more ammo.
Don't know why, but when ppl send me TikTok links, they work fine when opened using Tor. The other social media sites get very upset if you browse them with Tor. So at least in that regard, it is better (don't know if on purpose).
Never used this shady chinese app and never will. I watch all sorts of political content, dont need this liability. Viva la Tchaiwan
Sounds alot like Facebook.
Just Replace China with the US in the Context. And you basicly got Facebook xD
What's the name of music in transitional scenes?
How can you NOT Mention that India Banned TikTok
We did have a whole section about that in the original script, but this already ended up being one of our longest videos ever so we cut it down a bit - Jack
@@TLDRbusiness Thanks for the Clarification. Cheers 😊
Why did they ban talk on N Ireland independence
Because there are secessionist movements in Xinjiang and Tibet (and technically also Hongkong and Taiwan), so the CCP wouldn't want to have any support for similar ideas.
@@kosinusify oh thank you
Wen i get ads from tiktok during every ad break in this vid..
What can you do? Don´t use tik tok.
Crazy fact. TikTok is one of very few apps Chinese or Western, that is unavailable in Hong Kong. So you have a Chinese owned App that is available in the US, and in China, but not in a "Special Administrative Region" of China.
There's been some claim that the app eventually suggests anti-democratic government propaganda even if there isn't any views on the topic as long as you use the app. Kinda interesting what the app can and will eventually suggest to users.
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Once decided to follow a propaganda thread to its source, and verify myself.
Its source was absurd.
Yeah, I wouldn't take anything on security from Marco Rubio, given his response to Trump's documents which are a clear security breach. He is clearly incompetent on the issue. He didn't have to qualify in any way to get on that committee.
You say sharing pictures and videos isn't really a concern. Those pictures and videos include metadata, including, at the very least, a location where the picture or video was taken and what device the picture or video was taken with. Social media platforms are supposed to strip this information as part of the upload process, but if TikTok and ByteDance are already being questioned about blatant things going on, do you really think that they aren't trying to get away with the underlying things that aren't so obvious? Most people don't even know what metadata is, let alone the fact that it's tied into almost everything on the planet that is digital.
Tldr needs to talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants trees
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Ban tiktok
'be aware of bias propaganda'... After citing ASPI without any context, whereas it is well known to be anti-China... Yes, I try to be aware.
A parent company have no access to data in their foreign subsidiaries? Yea sure I trust you.
When you quote ASPI the pin immeidately drops.
Also why do you think that Tik Tok is doing what the other social media are not using? Or is it a case of double standards.
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It’s best to not have the App in the first place or just delete it.
That's why I didn't down load it
I have never used Tiktok, Instagram and Twitter. And Facebook almost a century and Whatsapp under heavy censure. And I am happier that way
This seems to be so in the US at least, but what about the rest of the world, specifically EU?
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0:32 wtf
Tiktok is insane... Im staying far away
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Your mic stand broke
Anyone else got a tiktok ad in the midrolls lmao they're coming
I get so fucking many of them and they're all the most annoying drivel that any corporation could possibly shit out, literal AI generated nonsense
It wasn't a coincidence. TikTok did that to make it look like Trump was just over reacting to that. Which worked so fair play to them.
Broke: China invented covid as a bioweapon.
Woke: China invented covid so people would use tiktok.
compare to facebook, google and microsoft . tiktok is not even a privacy issue at all.
You might as well remove the question mark from the title lol.
Otherwise it breaks the journalists’ law that the answer is always ‘no’
Tiktok is good I started searching and watching videos on making money alot of such videos started to pop-up on my feed damn I'm glad I did that I get free education everyday
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Awesome video i just can't believe you forgot to mention Vines! TikTok clearly capitalized the vacuum it left due mismanagement. As in most things from China, it was based upon that.
Just ban it and we're done
Tiktok as block out
Never touched the stuff
Gotta love RUclips - watching videos warning me about Chinese government propaganda between adverts telling me to join the British Army.
8:59 Why is India shown in this,India banned the app
The report was done before the india ban
@@Haris1 it shows 2022, I think it was banned before, maybe the data was collected before the ban
@@Haris1 it shows 2022
is our private information safe for ticktok in the UK
It isn't safe anywhere g but you're probably not gonna be of too much interest to the CCP cus they just want political figures' data mostly
@@largeladsteve25 ok
While tiktok is the worst among the social media apps, the points in this video can be applied to all of them. The only difference is who has access to your data
I’m confused.
Are you saying that China/TikTok suppressed Western-created content intended for Western consumption? Or are you saying that TikTok suppressed Chinese-generated content about Hong Kong and Uighers? Because the latter would seem to be par for the course for the Chinese government. But the former-people would notice.
And I don’t notice an overflowing of Chinese-critical content on Shorts or Reels. So I can only imagine it’s because none is being created.
Who is making geopolitical videos on TikTok?
I am not too about Tik-Tok been “exploded” in popularity due to the pandemic. Looking at the chart that’s provided, it looks very close to Tik-Tok was simply continuing its normal projected gain quarter after quarter with some very minor deviations. To say that it has “exploded” is somewhat of an exaggeration.
One very concerning issue is that a generation will grow up seeing mainly CCP propaganda on tiktok with voices critical of the regime being suppressed.
i mean makes a change from the previous generations who grew up with only british state propaganda. It's all to play for now
The best solution is just not using tiktok at all
We are coming close to the video of TDLR with the tittle "call of duty is a US army propaganda tool" :D
“Engagement Algorithm”
Not only TikTok record and store your private information on servers. Everything you do will be recorded and stored for potential future use by US. One party state or a two party state will not matter, at the end it will be a one surveillance state.
That's true, a shaman told me that a friend of his was a Christian one day and after using TikTok they became an atheist the next day.
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@@cameronfateweaver2206 Highly unlikely.
Look up what life is actually like in places like China, Russia, North Korea, recently India. It’s really, really not the same.
DOUBLE STANDRAD WSTERN MEDIA HAHAHA
How to take protect yourself from TikTok?
DON'T DOWNLOAD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
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Tiktok as seems nightmare people
Banned in india
Omg Northern Ireland was on this suppress list 😂
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Tbh, even if tiktok would be banned in usa and eu then some new main app would appear with the same format and everyone would move there.
I know something like Tik Tok exist but neve had it and found idea of it really stupid. People doing videos of mediocre skills and other people wow to them🤦♀️
Soon we put will put things like ,,using sale tape,, or ,, know how to flash toilet,, into skills on our CVs🤣
It is shocking how our intelligence decreased since uprising of ,,smart"phones.
i thought only russia had their own applications different from the western made ,interesting video thank you
It's apt to mention subtle propaganda, since this video is a prime example
Says the homogenizing commie.
tiktok = cancer
I don’t even use TikTok because I know what that thing does to your brain.
What is up with the lame club music in this video
of course tiktok, so predictable
Nice channel you've got here mate. Topic suggestion, Bitcoin, not crypto, bitcoin
Yikes, just deleted my account. Thanks!
And the app?
@@well-blazeredman6187 Of course :)
I have a better idea. Don't download
I don't run TikTok bots, but if you were to determine whos a bot and not based on the comments they leave, it would be about 60% (based on comments left in English, i haven't analysed any other languages). Still insane how many people are using this spyware. TT also pays users to create accounts - they have contracts with all the major paid task companies (where you are paid, or rewarded with in-game currency, for creating an account - this is public knowledge and you can go on any games earn/survey page and see this - presumably done just to get an install on as many devices as possible as an immediate uninstall is still a success).
before tiktok, facebook was bad, before facebook internet was bad, before internet printing press was bad, in fact historically even text as in writing was considered to be bad for society.
I got a few things to points out. I get, you are trying to fight propaganda, which is good, but you need to do the full research. If you only research onesided, aren't you doing propaganda as well? For example the HK protests, it was reported until february, that it was 'peaceful protests', while asian media like singapore or TW, even HK media itsself reported, how brutal the protests were, they put a man on fire for beeing not on the same opinion and even search for 'brick man dead'. We know from documentaries like from bbc, that the 'west' was funding and teaching them. 'school for separatists, oslo' With so much controversy, isnt it understandable, some fun App to just try to circumvent all this political mess?
Yeah, well, i wouldn't be any less worried if the U.S or Singaporean government possessed my data. Great video btw
You should be slightly less worried.
Who holds the loaded gun is very relevant.
You should be more worried about China. Look up what life is actually like there (but not through tiktok).
Let’s see how many TikTok apologists comment here
Does this mean RUclips and Instagram also American propaganda engine?
No.
That's what's called a *difference.*
Traitor.
@@JoshSweetvale "Traitor" LMAO
I know right how i can betray something that i never even pledge loyalty to.
The funny thing is that most US apps do the exact same thing. They collect data on you at all time in a slightly less pushy way or heavily limit the spread of dicussion about gender identity.
The DSA can access any database in the US they wish to see.
So really if we should be concerned about TikTok, we should also be concerned about website like Facebook who are helping the state to arrest woman who get an abortion or helped cause a genocide in Myanmar (yes they actually did that).
It needs to be banned
Neat