I feel bad for Sean I really do. He was found by whatever England's Advertising regulatory agency to have NOT lied about what will be in the game, Sony forced him to release an unfinished game, and it was sooo hyped that people believed what OTHER PEOPLE were fucking saying or taking what Sean says out of context (One example being Sean said it'll be Online BUT NOT A MULTIPLAYER GAME, He said you MIGHT VERY RARELY see another player, then boom everyone thinks it'll have full blown multiplayer capability.) I personally think Sean Murray and his Development team is not at fault whatsoever and you all can get pissy at my opinion all you want. This game is the product of PEOPLE overhyping the fuck out of this game with lies and statements taken wayyy out of context and Sony forcing out an unreleased game. Sean wanted to delay the game even. Then when it's a shitty game EVERYONE gets all fuckin pissed when in reality it was those same people lying about what features will be included.
No I don't like the game and I will most certainly watch that video and come back here I appreciate your respectful reply and will definitely take what you've said into consideration :). Oh and I was never mad! Lol I swear, when I add caps to words generally im trying to just add emphasis to the word itself, and it doesn't always look that way.
this video's end made me realize just how hillariously terrible the game is, if anything, take some solace in the fact that you just made my day with that. sorry for your loss of 60 hours.
NoReXx I was thinking the same exact thing, I actually laughed once I came up on that ending. Fucking tragedy this game would be remarkable with a story and actual purpose. :/
I watched this video back when it came out and I remembered it being so long! Now I come back here after a 4 hour Witcher critique and a 3 hour God of War critique and it feels like baby's first game analysis
It takes my breath away imagining that poor SOB's reaction to being the first one to make it to the galaxy center. All the suspense is built up, you don't know what happens next, and... nothing. You start all over. It breaks you, I imagine.
One of the best critiques I've seen. I appreciate that you put in all the effort and time to "complete" the game before uploading a critical review of the game. Calm, factual, intelligently produced with great use of examples, etc. Just earned my sub. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Joseph, I agree with PikeyScott. Your video was all of those things, not to mention that it became incredibly evident how hard you fought with this game for the sake of your viewers. Every time you said you ALMOST gave up playing this game, I would have. It's a testament to your will that you stuck with it, and I agree that it absolutely puts you in a better place to assess and critique the game in its entirety. There have been a lot of rants made on this game, but this is a proper overview/review that really arms the viewer with what they will need know before picking up a copy themselves. Before I saw this video, I was unsure of what to do about NMS. Now, I will most certainly be avoiding the game and putting my $60 to better use. I will keep an eye on this game in the years to come for a time when I can catch it at a steep discount on one of the numerous Steam sales. As far as now goes, you've gained a new subscriber. Have a good one, looking forward to future videos.
People are saying that videos like this didn't age well, I call bull on that. Videos like these are why No Man's Sky went through arguably the best redemption arc in gaming.
It still sucks. It still crashes every session, their updates completely destroyed the base I had built (and saved, of which they destroyed the save), and there still isn't any real reason to explore planets other than to laser some more rocks. It's still a hassle to move around the inventory and reload things, and they fixed the heat-dissipation glitch. Haven't played it in forever. There is absolutely nothing in the current iteration that's any different from this review save for a few very minor qol and ship updates.
It still is at best mediocre. Yes, it has more shit to do, but the problem was never them - the problem was the ass-backwards exploration and progression system, with nothing to aside minig and primitive combat. Yes, it has vehicles now, yes it has capital ships, but they don't change the main flaw in gamedesign: useless, stat-driven repetitiveness of it all.
@@razorr4366 i am one of that "specific people". And i still would play starsector for space exploration and trade or subnautica for vibrant worlds then NMS. Because if you have to grind, grinding should either lead to some nice gameplay changes, or be fun and engaging in it's own right. Again, look at subnautica: there is grind there, but you don't grind for your gun to have +1 damage, you grind to get yourself new and interesting tools of exploration or easing your survival in some way. In NMS it is just stats. Gameplay-wise the way you play don't change through the game, you don' t learn environments you don't do anything aside sinking resources into the meaningless stat-upgrades. And you never ever find something interesting on the planet, because any planet is designed to be as blank as possible.
Well of course unlike the other reviewers this idiot decided to complete the game. we all knew it would end to nothing. They could have at least added a huge final fight, to end the game.but no they decide to send you right back to the start. so glad I don't have a PS4 this game was one I thought had promise, but glad it was not on Xbox 1 now or I would have fallen into the trap.
Well plenty of reviews are objective. But opinions and gaming preferences play into it regardless. Watch LGR's review of No Man's Sky for example, he probably has one of the most positive reviews of the game thus far, with a sort of hate/love feeling towards it.
If this review was actually objective, you wouldn't find much use of it. Look up Jim Sterling's 100% objective review to see what an objective review really looks like.
The fact it was lovecraft’s Call of Cthulhu opening lines, talking about how ignorance is better, sometimes, as you were forced to die at the very end is just beautiful irony that still makes me wonder if this is, still, even after all the upgrades, just some sick joke.
They say money follows you to the afterlife. Unfortunately you ran out of pocket change purchasing this game to get in. (Sort of a monogatari quote if anyone recognizes it.)
It goes to show how garbage this game is when even the most level-headed, analytical and critical person on RUclips, who basically completed the end goal of the game and had no expectation of the game outside of the core gameplay in concept, is consistently angry throughout their critique of the game
BUCCIMAIN apparently he got the story completely wrong? Apparently a lot of the plot holes in the game he pointed out were answered in PDAs littered throughout the game. From what I’ve read of the people that were saying this a lot of the plot holes do have answers, however they’re very “convenient” such as “why wasn’t the cure completed?” “Because the only thing that produces the enzymes that are the cure is old and the enzymes aren’t as effective” which is such a bad answer (in my opinion) since you’re telling me that this dead society that was so advanced that space travel wasn’t an issue what so ever, but being able to synthesise enzymes are? Even tho they have the creature that can do it around and can study the enzyme, they’d rather create a giant cannon that destroys anything entering or exiting the planet, and a doomsday device that can destroy the entire planet (that didn’t work) instead of being able to make more enzymes artificially? Sorry that this was a bit of a rant. I agree that if the game does answer the plot holes that were presented then his point was mute, however that does not excuse how terrible a story the game does have, and that the answers to the plot holes do make sense, are just ludicrously stupid justifications are problems the game wants to keep, even though it would be easier changing some of the story so these plot holes wouldn’t exist in the first place while also having a better story as the result of it
"End goal" "Core gameplay in concept" Right there is why people that hate RTS games shouldn't be reviewing RTS games. There's no end goal to NMS, fuck all the idiots that think there is. It's an exploration game, let the people that want one have the SINGLE exploration game to be released and quit calling it shit because you don't like exploration games. The core gameplay is that of an exploration game, and it executes it pretty damn well. This reviewer is an idiot for even bothering to review this game in the first place, he's just being a biased piece of shit reviewing a game from a genre he hates.
It really couldn't have ended better. At the end of it all, it strips away your progress, puts you through the longest loading screen yet, takes away your control, and says: "Go fuck yourself" with a final laser to the face right as it gives you the freedom to die.
Well that's not quite true. You apparently keep your ship, and your gear, though you have to fix your ship again. So you didn't lose any progress per say .. you just get to start that pointless cycle again to traveling to the center of the galaxy only to get there and start yet again in another gaalxy.
@@CommissarMitch Yeah since NMS I'm never pre-ordering, I'm never paying more than £20, NMS has ruined the trust I've had with games. It may be better now, but NMS will always be to me what it was at launch - a huge disappointment I couldn't get a refund on (also I wasn't given the pre-order ship which was the perk of pre-ordering, it was in the menu but it wouldn't give it to me)
I do to. I put the playlist on every night. Usually listen to one review intently and fall asleep before the next. Let’s me really get into one, get a great night sleep, and looking forward to the another great video before zoning out for sleep again! Never found another channel quite like this.
@@laethenglish1299 In his Fallout 76 video, he mentioned how Hello Games gained more respect from fixing the game. He didn't make his opinion on it clear though.
@@voidgivenfocus I know people who said that at the release and still went back to it later because of the massive changes brought by the updates, it's definitely no longer the same game.
The ending to this video was the most beautifully put feelings of despair and passive anger... It felt like i was there with him, being insulted by the game and feeling the most contempt for a game i have not felt in a long time. Simply great Poetry.
Paraxite meh i probably put like 100 hours into spore back when i had it on CD and i picked it up a month ago for like 3 bucks on steam i haven't played more than 30 mins of it
That is the most fitting ending I have ever experienced in one of your videos. Nice work Mr. Anderson. Thank you for taking, yet another, one for the team.
@@23Raymond22 I don't know man. I just tried it hoping it would be worth playing now. Yes, they changed a lot, added multiplayer support, massively enhanced basebuilding and updated graphics. Kudos for the devs for staying instead of taking the money and running away. But lots of Josephs criticism still stands. Most importantly, all planets are still exactly the same, just reskinned. There is nothing (!) of interest to find. Exploration is pointless. If you're only interested in basebuilding it might be worth a try, but even then you spend a massive amount of the time within the game world, exploring or grinding and it's just boring.
The center of the universe is literally "sorry your princess is in another castle" or more like "sorry the game you wanted is in a different game, thanks for your money"
For those of you wondering about the "Birth of a Star" option for the Atlas, what happens is it tells you that a new explorer has just begun in the new Star just like you, and then you leave. Thats it.
I have seen alot of videos about no mans sky. This is the most well made and well thought out video about any game i have ever seen. I honestly don't think a tv series company or massive team of a hundred people could make a better game review video than this one. This video is what i will forever judge all over game review videos on. Thank you for the video and i am defiantly subscribing for more :)
To add abit more, i have a habbit of skipping bits of every video i see. I havnt watched a video in around a month without skipping aleast bits of it. This video is the first in ages i actually watched all the way through. I didn't want to miss any of it. Amazing video.
I agree, I usually can't stand sitting through long RUclips videos because there is too much 'filler' and not enough meaningful content. But I watched your entire critique of The Witness in one sitting and was thoroughly engaged start to finish, so much so that I proceeded to binge-watch your NMS, Darkest Dungeon and Hearthstone videos. I enjoyed how well, objectively, and thoroughly you presented your arguments, especially with The Witness where even though I have not played it, you convinced me of the dilemma where I know I would love the moments of discovery and environmental puzzles but probably would not be able to drudge through the hundreds of tablet-esque ones. I do feel that perhaps you were a bit less objective on the Hearthstone video. Your points were certainly valid, but I felt you didn't thoroughly evaluate design decisions made by Blizzard as well as you could have, rather dismissing them as not knowing what they were doing and providing an illusion of depth. Just my feeling though, I am not really qualified to critique. That was an older video anyway and I think you do a great job now :) Anyway, keep up the good work! I would love to hear more of what you have to say. I am curious what criteria you have for selecting which game to do a video on though. Obviously it's a very significant time sink. Might I suggest Overwatch?
Yes i agree, i wasnt keen on the hearthstone video but that's only because its not my kind of game. I would also like to suggest overwatch it would be great to your in depth thoughts of overwatch :)
The best summation i've heard of it was Rich Evans talking about how Minecraft is a deeper game. He said something to the effect of "You start and its sunny and nice and you punch trees and make a shitty house and everythings great. Then night falls and at night the monsters come." Theres no hook to this beyond the basic idea and no challenge to overcome. It reeks of an early build pushed out too soon to a religious zeal level of hype sold as a retail build. God would i love to read a book about this whole mess years after the fact.
Servebotfrank I played it recently too, but unlike you I had no bugs. So either it is your computer, or you found new bugs. Hello Games should have a bug report option iirc so you can just send them that instead of complaining. Honestly games would be better if we did that but whatever. Compared to day one, which I played, the new version is leagues better and is actually fun.
@@twenty-fifth420 same here, I played recently, quickly got sucked in and lost a week to that game. No bugs to speak of, let alone gamebreaking bugs. I ended having to put down b/c college is starting and it was to much of a time sink.
I'm glad that this review exists for the purpose of archival and to serve as a lesson on the dangers of over-hyping a game. I'm also glad that the people at Hello Games had the integrity and work ethic to stick with it and make the game that they told everyone they'd make.
@@qinlongfei Not necessarily, NMS wasn't just a glitchy mess like Andromeda or Cyberpunk, it was a nothing game, had it been glitchless at launch it still would've been a really really bad game (for an AAA), like career ending bad, so they HAD to patch it.
@@AA-lz4wq There's this guy, maybe you've heard of him, called Internet Historian. Resident shitposter and archivist of oddities on the net. Did a video on No Mans Sky and to an extent lead developer Sean Murray. In said video it shows that Sean had the whole team go radio silent to work on every major problem people had with the game at the time and worked who knows how many hours to get most of the originally promised features into the game, and some people didn't ask for as well. We can argue whether this makes the game good, as that is subjective. What's not is that the game has significantly improved over its base release, that's objective and it shows that Sean and the devs of Hello Games really DO care about their game and wanted something better then what they shipped out.
Joe brings up some very good points in this video. I'm almost thinking NMS would have been better as a Rogue-lite game with a lot more scarcity and danger during space travel and planet exploration and mining, where you can legitimately die off or run out of resources due to under-planning or unforeseen consequences, since (like Joe says in the video) the current game just gives you everything you need wherever you need it. Dying would result in permadeath and you would try again, a little more powerful perhaps, and a little wiser. I probably clocked a good 30 hours into NMS, but it's true that at least before its patches it was a game without gameplay.
Meh, this is why we can't have good exploration games. People like you have to come ruin it with your ideas on how to make it something different. The game's not for you, just accept that you twat.
I got this game simply because I love space. Played for maybe 30 - 40 hours then realized how much fun I was not having. That was probably only a week or 2 after it was released. Never opened it again. And now I finally have seen the "ending" and I am speechless. I do not think I have ever hated a game that I have played before. But now I can say that I have.
Interesting coming back to this now. The game has changed so much in so many ways, but at the end of the day the core of the game is exactly the same with the same purpose.
@@hugorodriguez8672 Minecraft has an ending. One that you get even if it doesn't 100% explain or twist anything because that's what Minecraft sets out to do. It's the sandbox of all sandboxes because the freedom to do anything you like is basically unlimited. In Minecraft there is no narrative at all. You make your own fun and you can because you have so much freedom, No Man's Sky is not a sandbox. It's very limited in what you can do and the things you do have almost no impact on the world around you. It has the vestigial tail of a narrative because there are NPCs who talk and that hinders the experience more than enriching it. Make a narrative that goes somewhere or don't but don't leave me hanging like a sneeze that never comes.
@@lightsideofsin8969 No man's sky also has a narrative and an ending, I'm not talking about the centre of the galaxy, I'm talking about the artemis path, if you played it you should know what I'm talking about. NMS is a sandbox, you can ignore completely the story and do whatever you want, it has a very extense variety of things you can do, I have like 60 hours in the game and most of them are me doing whatever I want. And I don't really get the "you don't have much on an impact on the world", not to disrespect minecraft, but in minecraft you also don't influence much in the world at large.
I was initially skeptical about having to watch another No Man's Sky video. I felt like a lot of the points I knew would just be reiterated, and while they were, part 2 of your analysis made it shine. You're at your best when you recount your personal experience of the game. It's why I loved your Fallout 4 analysis. The way you decided to deal with Father told me something about you and your experience and I very much appreciated it. Looking forward to seeing more content from you :)
If this game had been $20, it could of easily attracted a nice, niche fanbase. It would of had haters, but you can't hate too much on an ambitious, $20 indie title. Instead, we have a Frakemsteined $60 game.
You seriously deserve an award for this. What you offer is games Journalism, not just game reviews like the majority of gaming publications, shows, youtube channels, etc. Thank you.
I actually really enjoyed spore until i had done everything possible. Then it becomes OH! Why the F*ck did EA make this! But before that, really good game.
Stop talking out of your ass, its people like you who are ruining mankind by assuming bullshit faster than the speed of light. Every game out there that i like, i bust open my wallet for it.
I drop back in every couple of weeks to see if they haven't added something worthwhile, but absent some kind of base building, terraforming, starship/spacestation ownership, major faction wars, or something... anything, it looks like this is a complete bust of a game that will go down in gaming history for all the wrong reasons.
I did that for some other game, hoping whatever new update would suddenly make the game good. It's sad to see something you wanted to like just disappoint you.
Thats what's funny to me. People keep demanding basebuilding and were so stoked when HG announced they might patch it in at some point. What's the point of base building in a game whose entire premise is exploration? There is NO reason to stay in a single spot. I mean, fine, actually there is becasue the exploration is super boring and shitty, but still. I feel like HG doesn't even know their own game.
its a way to find closure, like any space rollplay if you have a faction that you are friends with you can always come back when in danger, specially since it shouldnt be a universe filled and explored already. it would be better if it was like swan song rollplay where you have a crew(possible co-op). heck even create your own faction and powerfight others, trying to find artifacts to become stronger than the others, having the "center of the universe" as the "all mighty power"
When I heard about Sean Murray claiming that player-controlled freighters and base building were coming, I think the way I processed that news was as an indication that they'd hit enough of their original design goals that they felt comfortable moving on and expanding the game into new directions. He made that announcement in a post which linked to a bunch of his own interviews and talks which turned out to be misleading (www.no-mans-sky.com/2016/08/what-do-you-do-in-no-mans-sky/). So announcing those features were planned and coming implied that they were satisfied with core feature set. Now the cynic in me thinks that this was partially the impression Sean intended to create (the other part being to get people hyped about more features that will probably never see the light of day). He announced those features before most people knew how shitty the game was or how utterly useless those features would be if dropped into the game as it is currently structured. As it stands, NMS would need another year or so of full development to become a halfway decent survival/exploration game, to say nothing of adding worthwhile structure-building elements.
I don't think something like base building would be useless in the current game. A lot of people have issues with the fact that we show up to these supposed 'undiscovered' planets and there are already all these buildings and aliens all over the place. I think showing up on an actual undiscovered planet and building your own outposts (to establish contact with the galactic trading network), manufacturing facilities (to generate more resources), and transmission towers (to locate any atlas artifacts or maybe crashed ships) would give us more of a reason to stay on a planet, explore, and gather resources; other than just to gather more resources. The game would still need a graphic upgrade with a ton of new art assets though (maybe make the game twice that tiny 6.9gb size that people kept telling us not to freak out about). I've heard the game was in development for 4 or 5 years and considering what we ended up with my best guess would be another 2 years just to get the game they originally promised. I have my doubts that this team could ever deliver what they promised though.
Honestly bro, your videos are totally my new favourite source for game information. I love how in-depth you get with them. As for this one in particular: thank you for spending so much time "playing" this mess so that I didn't have to. And that ending... man that disappointment in your voice... it was heart breaking.
I get the feeling that No Man's Sky is a pun... like 'No Man will ever want to traverse this Sky ever again.' I never played this game, thanfully cause my PC is too crappy to run it, but I read yesterday that the team was charged with false advertising or some such. Following everything I read up on No Man's Sky, I'll say this... I sincerely hope the devs rot in a dark, hellish cell for a long time.
Mr. Missingno No kidding ;) Considering how terrible No Man's Sky is and how improbable it is to meet another Man in the universe, the pun feels justified.
I feel like the game started as an honest project. To create an infinite universe would be an awesome achievement in gaming. They accomplished a form of that, but only that. Its almost like the development started out as just a procedural generation prototype, and when they found out that it could work, they hyped it up to Sony and gained AAA status without actually making a game. So once they got the backing from Sony, they were like, OH SHIT we need to this make generated universe into a game. And.... they failed at that.
This isn't possible. The game that launched was nowhere near as feature rich as the game they revealed YEARS ago. Which means the reveal was pure bullshit. So from the start, they were dishonest.
TheNotReligious What was different? What features were not included? I studied this game for hours without ever playing it. I just want to know what was deliberately lied about and left out.
Jacob Carey There is a plethora of videos on RUclips showing you what is missing and what is lied about. From what I remember there is even a Reddit post listing every single thing that was promised and also shows what on that list wasn't included in the game. You cannot have "been studying this game for hours without ever playing it" because if you had, you'd have stumbled on all those videos.
Now that we're two content updates in, I think it's safe to say that Hello Games is not maliciously and deliberately trying to make the game tedious and monotonous as some sort of statement. They're just plain incompetent.
This game brought more misery to people than any other game in existence. Millions of people disappointed, millions of people wasted 60$ for that crap, millions of people constantly irritated with dozens of nitpicky problems, millions of hours wasted for awful late game grind, hundreds of death threats sent to the devs, millions of pointless internet arguments about it. Misery, misery, misery. Aren't games supposed to bring joy? Or at least be a piece of art, like dark souls, when brining misery.
This was the best review I have seen for No Man's Sky. It makes me feel sad that you really pushed yourself forward only to see that ending. Thank you for making this video!
It’s crazy that as much as the game has improved, the core nuisance issues are still inexplicably there. Still terrible inventory, still a crazy chore to learn language, etc
I fucking loved the first 2 hours or so of this game. It just gives you a sense of awe the first time you do something. The first time you wake up, the first time you fly your ship, the first time you exit the atmosphere, the first time you see your starting planet, the first time you enter a space station, the first time you warp to a new solar system. and then, well then it just becomes a boring painful grind of the same thing over and over. It actually made me so sad to see the path this game went down. it had so much potential. But it didn't happen.
Why is space so colourful in this game? It'd make sense if that happened every now and then, like if you warped to a star system in the middle of a nebula or something, but it's everywhere! Why? Did Hello Games think that people would lose interest if space was just a dark abyss like it should be?
Not to forget that you zoom past thousands of asteroids when flying through space at extreme speeds and you never run into any of them, even though they are so densely grouped that there is always one within a kilometer of you. If there were so many asteroids in space like that, you wouldn't be able to see any stars at all.
Holy cow, why the heck did I just watch the whole video? I never intended to buy NMS and still watched it. You have earned yourself a sub! I'm not really sure how to describe what I just watched, but damn if I wasn't glued to the video the whole time. You did an outstanding job of explaining your experience with the game. That said, it's very depressing watching your video, because it further supports the narrative that Sean Murray is a scam artist.
0:45 That's a really beautiful sky there. I don't really have anything to add to the conversation here. I just think the sky looks really beautiful there.
Wow, that ending was very poetic and well put together. Congratulations on wasting your time on this game for us. It was worth it to see such an amazingly detailed review! Love your content
I pirated the game to see how shit it was and I really liked the first 1 hour or so where you have to repair your ship and you get introduced to the mechanics of the world because it had the same kind of "confused but determined" anxiety that I remembered getting when I first played Minecraft, after that it all went downhill :/
No, Joseph isn't Matthewmatosis. They have similar styles, but I think Matthew is much more refined in his commentary. I feel like Joseph likes talking about what he did or didn't like in a game (to a very great extent) while Matthew talks about why something is in a game. There's a good reason why his videos take months to complete and you can tell that he's spent a long ass time refining it.
I've never watched a review for a video game and have felt like i needed to personally apologize for the reviewer completing the game, that's a new sensation. I'm so sorry you had to play this for 58 hours.
I’ve been watching your channel in a binge fashion for a few days. I only just discovered you last week while searching for something, anything, to quench my BOTW thirst and ive been watching you Netflix style for hours now. I have zero experience with the vast majority of your content, and have no intention of broadening my gaming career. I’m not here to figure out what to play next. I’m simply addicted to your level of dedication. When you make a claim, you back it up with more than enough examples to suffice. This is true for every claim. I can imagine you having something you’d LIKE to say about a game, but leave it out of the script if you cannot back it up. And you back it up with numbers, calculations, footage. More than one example. Then through process of elimination you rule out any reason to have any other opinion then the one you so diligently came to. You are very thorough. I watch reviews and retrospectives on games i have now idea about nor desire to play because I appreciate the review or the retrospective itself. And you, sir, have just cemented your place in my list of favorite you tubers. I like Arlo. But i have nothing to say to arlo. In fact i never comment. I am a silent watcher. But I really felt the need to let you know that i can see the effort you’re putting into your channel and wish you the best of luck growing it to the level you deserve. I think, in my humble opinion, you are sadly vastly undiscovered, and i think that collaboration with other channels will fix this. I can easily imagine other reviewers saying “for a more in depth look at these and other issues this game has, check out joseph anderson, link below” and then moving on to make their opinions and claims without the need to back them up, because you already have.
Thank you for sitting through this ordeal for us. I would have loved to play it and looked forward so much to it. But after I heard what was going on I stopped even considering to get it
As much of a disappointment this game was, its soundtrack is absolutely fantastic. It's the only redeeming factor NMS has to offer for me to not be a complete disaster.
Ironically enough the person in charge of the music/soundtrack to this game is the only one responding to the public at the moment. Probably because he knows he did a good job. It's just the other 14 devs didn't.
To be fair, I think 13 of those devs still did a very good job at _what they were tasked to do_. As an experimental indie game, NMS is okay in my eyes. Their problem was Murray delivering completely unreasonable expectations to the outside, bundled in a 60$ game.
Selbi inkille. I don't see it like you. So what your saying is the folks in that company did not talk with sean at all. and he just kept talking about everything he wanted in the game. No that just not how it is. They all talked together about the game and sean was the lead devoloper. they all knew what they had before release. and they had plenty of time to let the consumers know what they are gonna get if the buy the game. but no change was made to their advertisment. all up to the release. trust me they knew what would happen. if they had shown the real product. instead of 2 year old CGI. and what Sean was saying. But they did nothing. they kept it to themself. in fear of loosing customers. I hope they get ruined. Sure they had good ideas and could proberly have made a good game if they hadlike 2-5 years more on it. but thats just not good enogh. they released a early access game in early apha sate. for a AAA price. with half of it missing.
I agree. I try not to comment on music in games because I don't feel qualified to judge. But I've listened to some of it while not playing the game. It's really great.
Selbi Inkille No not really even that it's the fact that Murrary simply lied. That's the issue. He said dozens of things would be in the game during multiple interviews and showed gameplay footage on the steam store page that simply is not in the game.If the devs cant meet expectations that's fine and understandable and I think the community would be more forgiving. Sure the game would probably be only getting like 60 percent positive or mixed reviews but its because they lied that it's a problem. That my friend is called false advertising and it's supposed to be illegal in the U.S. and most first world countries. I'm quite disappointed in steam that they stuck by their refund policy and refused to refund anyone past the two hour mark when they knew what was being advertised on their store page was false. Gee maybe the reason people were going past that two hour mark wasn't because they were trying to play the game and then return it but because they were wasting time looking for content that was said to be in the game that wasn't. Which is why I feel like Valve should have done better and given us some slack on that because this game was straight up fraud. If they would have said the game would have had what it did nobody would have had an issue. Strangely though I doubt they would have been able to charge 60 dollars for it either now would they? Na this whole game and team or a few of them were involved in this scam. And that is exactly what it was a scam and I really hope they are punished for it to prevent future devs from thinking they can pull the same kind of crap in the future.
Watching this in mid-2019, I for one am grateful for honest and logical critique like yours. Without it, Hello Games might not have completely overhauled NMS like the game needed and deserved.
This is the best, most thorough review of any game I've ever seen. I previously chose not to have the ending spoiled for me, thinking I would one day come back to the game and see it for myself, but you earned the right to let me know the truth by your incredible analysis and critique. Subscribed for your dedication, looking forward to more from you. Thank you sir :)
That tiny robot killing you in the end perfectly sums up the fuckery. o god i felt miserable just watching this.
Yeah, it was sad...
Nitish Chauhan I wish Sean Murray had to watch that final scene every time someone buys the game at full price
Nitish Chauhan imagine how baffled he must have felt
I feel bad for Sean I really do. He was found by whatever England's Advertising regulatory agency to have NOT lied about what will be in the game, Sony forced him to release an unfinished game, and it was sooo hyped that people believed what OTHER PEOPLE were fucking saying or taking what Sean says out of context (One example being Sean said it'll be Online BUT NOT A MULTIPLAYER GAME, He said you MIGHT VERY RARELY see another player, then boom everyone thinks it'll have full blown multiplayer capability.) I personally think Sean Murray and his Development team is not at fault whatsoever and you all can get pissy at my opinion all you want. This game is the product of PEOPLE overhyping the fuck out of this game with lies and statements taken wayyy out of context and Sony forcing out an unreleased game. Sean wanted to delay the game even. Then when it's a shitty game EVERYONE gets all fuckin pissed when in reality it was those same people lying about what features will be included.
No I don't like the game and I will most certainly watch that video and come back here I appreciate your respectful reply and will definitely take what you've said into consideration :). Oh and I was never mad! Lol I swear, when I add caps to words generally im trying to just add emphasis to the word itself, and it doesn't always look that way.
This game crashed for my brother so badly that he was banned from PSN for a week because it mistook the crash as a hacking attempt.
"It just works".
You can fly all the way to the center of the galaxy.
TankBus *Ps4 error screen appears*
Working as intended.
So... liquid couldn't play no mans sky?
Killian Experience summed it up perfectly: if your dev team consists of 13 people, don't literally promise the universe.
@@bigyeet18 yes but it is quite a bit easier to create a good world in a 2D metroidvania then a 3D open “universe“.
@loaf;r It's exactly what they did.
They didn't promise THE universe they promised A universe. They delivered that at least like 30 times over with the new game plus thing.
I mean hollow knight though
They still delivered
Wow...that ending with the sentinel. A perfect way to give you one last encore of a f*** you.
It was fucking poetic😤
Epic ending.
Holy Shit. Probably the saddest ending to any video I've ever watched.
John Spade вышивка крестом схемы
"You can buy all three of these games for less money."
What a great twist of the dagger, well done.
I watched all of this video and had more fun than I did at any point during the actual game.
Dan Bull DAN BULL!?!? WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?
hey remember that time you shilled for ea to make a shitty mobile game
cause i do
How is it now?
@@lolzant397 From what i hear actually preaty good
@@lolzant397 it's been updated ALOT. I play it every other day after work. Gotta have at least 150h in it.
Your ending is so perfect. It's like poetry.
There is so much going on at the screen at any one time,it's really dense.It's funnier than Joe Danger...
"we may have gone too far in some places"
It’s gonna be great.
It’s gonna be great.
It’s gonna be great.
It’s gonna be great.
It’s gonna be great.
@@johnconnorpliskin7184 it is great
I thought there was a piece of hair at the top of my screen
Lmao found an empty reply of aw fallingbed's comment
Who
Just as anderson said, having any sort of expectation about something can ruin the experience.
XD same
Its mine, don't eat it
"NOFLORAMYASS" haha. Great shit once again Joseph. Always enjoy hearing you lay it down.
"hardtofindpieceofshit"
rare comment dog bless you
Hello yogaman
this video's end made me realize just how hillariously terrible the game is, if anything, take some solace in the fact that you just made my day with that. sorry for your loss of 60 hours.
NoReXx I was thinking the same exact thing, I actually laughed once I came up on that ending. Fucking tragedy this game would be remarkable with a story and actual purpose. :/
And actual gameplay.
NoReXx My name is Solace, so it always fucks with me for a split second when someone actually uses that word.
Ace that's such a cool name
I watched this video back when it came out and I remembered it being so long! Now I come back here after a 4 hour Witcher critique and a 3 hour God of War critique and it feels like baby's first game analysis
you can almost feel the existential dread from here
It really might be what this game is about.
Hbomberguy's "rant" is the reason ive tried to avoid reviews of this game
The fact that the quote right after is from H.P. Lovecraft is almost poetic
No Man's Sky is basically taking a second job for no pay.
^ poetry
so dickensian
Avatar matches
So it's an internship
No that's too generous. That describes eve. No mans sky is like getting sent to an American prison.
It takes my breath away imagining that poor SOB's reaction to being the first one to make it to the galaxy center. All the suspense is built up, you don't know what happens next, and... nothing. You start all over. It breaks you, I imagine.
@@tommcdaniel9554 The person who did it was someone who paid $1000 to get a street date broken copy. No joke. Look it up, he said he doesn't regret it
@@tommcdaniel9554 at least you'd be enjoying that pizza. That bloke was feeling miserable the whole way through
One of the best critiques I've seen. I appreciate that you put in all the effort and time to "complete" the game before uploading a critical review of the game. Calm, factual, intelligently produced with great use of examples, etc.
Just earned my sub. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks!
Joseph, I agree with PikeyScott. Your video was all of those things, not to mention that it became incredibly evident how hard you fought with this game for the sake of your viewers. Every time you said you ALMOST gave up playing this game, I would have. It's a testament to your will that you stuck with it, and I agree that it absolutely puts you in a better place to assess and critique the game in its entirety. There have been a lot of rants made on this game, but this is a proper overview/review that really arms the viewer with what they will need know before picking up a copy themselves. Before I saw this video, I was unsure of what to do about NMS. Now, I will most certainly be avoiding the game and putting my $60 to better use. I will keep an eye on this game in the years to come for a time when I can catch it at a steep discount on one of the numerous Steam sales. As far as now goes, you've gained a new subscriber. Have a good one, looking forward to future videos.
Yeah what he (PikeyScott) said :)
agreed - sub earned man. Looking forward to catching up on your vids
I cannot believe you sat through all of that. You are a christus, the martyr suffering for no reason save for our pleasure. Cheers!
This video is more enjoyable than the actual game.
Hahaha xD
That's not saying much unfortunately.
Getting my genitals stapled is more enjoyable than this game.
AssasinArsenal47 I dunno genitals being stapled is saying quite a bit lol.
Jake H. I kinda like this game
People are saying that videos like this didn't age well, I call bull on that.
Videos like these are why No Man's Sky went through arguably the best redemption arc in gaming.
Electronic Corgi true tho
It still sucks. It still crashes every session, their updates completely destroyed the base I had built (and saved, of which they destroyed the save), and there still isn't any real reason to explore planets other than to laser some more rocks. It's still a hassle to move around the inventory and reload things, and they fixed the heat-dissipation glitch. Haven't played it in forever. There is absolutely nothing in the current iteration that's any different from this review save for a few very minor qol and ship updates.
It still is at best mediocre. Yes, it has more shit to do, but the problem was never them - the problem was the ass-backwards exploration and progression system, with nothing to aside minig and primitive combat. Yes, it has vehicles now, yes it has capital ships, but they don't change the main flaw in gamedesign: useless, stat-driven repetitiveness of it all.
Кирилл Поповкин I don’t think it’s at best mediocre, just a game for specific people, some people might like flying around and grinding, idk tho.
@@razorr4366 i am one of that "specific people". And i still would play starsector for space exploration and trade or subnautica for vibrant worlds then NMS. Because if you have to grind, grinding should either lead to some nice gameplay changes, or be fun and engaging in it's own right. Again, look at subnautica: there is grind there, but you don't grind for your gun to have +1 damage, you grind to get yourself new and interesting tools of exploration or easing your survival in some way. In NMS it is just stats. Gameplay-wise the way you play don't change through the game, you don' t learn environments you don't do anything aside sinking resources into the meaningless stat-upgrades. And you never ever find something interesting on the planet, because any planet is designed to be as blank as possible.
"NOFLORAMYASS" theres a comedian hiding behind that brain
"LikeLookingIntoAMirror" - creature with what looks like glans penis for a head.
"Get away from my planet you je-" 😂
My favorite is still "Eudoxie Mbouguiengue" because the planet was so hostile and had weather so extreme that it was fucking ludicrous
Joe is a massive memer
I think this was by far the most objective review of No Man's Sky.
Well of course unlike the other reviewers this idiot decided to complete the game. we all knew it would end to nothing. They could have at least added a huge final fight, to end the game.but no they decide to send you right back to the start. so glad I don't have a PS4 this game was one I thought had promise, but glad it was not on Xbox 1 now or I would have fallen into the trap.
Yeah what an idiot he only decided to invest time into the game he was reviewing! Who does that shit? What a dummy. /s
Well plenty of reviews are objective. But opinions and gaming preferences play into it regardless. Watch LGR's review of No Man's Sky for example, he probably has one of the most positive reviews of the game thus far, with a sort of hate/love feeling towards it.
If this review was actually objective, you wouldn't find much use of it. Look up Jim Sterling's 100% objective review to see what an objective review really looks like.
Drew Fox Well i have seen no other reviewer do what he did and actually complete the game. so this review was a first for me.
The fact it was lovecraft’s Call of Cthulhu opening lines, talking about how ignorance is better, sometimes, as you were forced to die at the very end is just beautiful irony that still makes me wonder if this is, still, even after all the upgrades, just some sick joke.
Holy shit. It's like they simulated hell.
Except that Hell doesn't charge you money to get in.
They say money follows you to the afterlife. Unfortunately you ran out of pocket change purchasing this game to get in.
(Sort of a monogatari quote if anyone recognizes it.)
No it simulates the development process of shitty games like this
Your dedication is admirable, you don't see this kind of channel everyday. New sub here
It goes to show how garbage this game is when even the most level-headed, analytical and critical person on RUclips, who basically completed the end goal of the game and had no expectation of the game outside of the core gameplay in concept, is consistently angry throughout their critique of the game
he is very mature and professional but oh my god it was so funny when he got genuinely angry at chat during the danganronpa streams
@@jakers141 what exactly happened?
@Sheev Lalpatine What about it was trash? I watched it but I was too tired so I dont really remember it that good, also I havent played Subnautica.
BUCCIMAIN apparently he got the story completely wrong? Apparently a lot of the plot holes in the game he pointed out were answered in PDAs littered throughout the game. From what I’ve read of the people that were saying this a lot of the plot holes do have answers, however they’re very “convenient” such as “why wasn’t the cure completed?” “Because the only thing that produces the enzymes that are the cure is old and the enzymes aren’t as effective” which is such a bad answer (in my opinion) since you’re telling me that this dead society that was so advanced that space travel wasn’t an issue what so ever, but being able to synthesise enzymes are? Even tho they have the creature that can do it around and can study the enzyme, they’d rather create a giant cannon that destroys anything entering or exiting the planet, and a doomsday device that can destroy the entire planet (that didn’t work) instead of being able to make more enzymes artificially?
Sorry that this was a bit of a rant. I agree that if the game does answer the plot holes that were presented then his point was mute, however that does not excuse how terrible a story the game does have, and that the answers to the plot holes do make sense, are just ludicrously stupid justifications are problems the game wants to keep, even though it would be easier changing some of the story so these plot holes wouldn’t exist in the first place while also having a better story as the result of it
"End goal"
"Core gameplay in concept"
Right there is why people that hate RTS games shouldn't be reviewing RTS games.
There's no end goal to NMS, fuck all the idiots that think there is. It's an exploration game, let the people that want one have the SINGLE exploration game to be released and quit calling it shit because you don't like exploration games. The core gameplay is that of an exploration game, and it executes it pretty damn well. This reviewer is an idiot for even bothering to review this game in the first place, he's just being a biased piece of shit reviewing a game from a genre he hates.
The ending....so poetic...and yet very depressing.
It really couldn't have ended better. At the end of it all, it strips away your progress, puts you through the longest loading screen yet, takes away your control, and says: "Go fuck yourself" with a final laser to the face right as it gives you the freedom to die.
Lol. Just a big middle finger pointing at you as the realisation hits you that you just seriously wasted a bunch of money, effort and time.
Well that's not quite true. You apparently keep your ship, and your gear, though you have to fix your ship again. So you didn't lose any progress per say .. you just get to start that pointless cycle again to traveling to the center of the galaxy only to get there and start yet again in another gaalxy.
money doesn't come in bunches, bananas come in bunches.
Wut :3
somebody give this poor man a hug
I volunteer as tribute.
Base building is fun. :)
Alan Garcia You don't get it. He feels bad for Joseph. You're not too bright huh?
Time for my weekly viewing of this video
Same. Jesus Christ this game was bad at released and it ruined it for me because I have never looked at video games the same since this game.
Mike Fluff but it’s a good game now. So you should be able to look at games in a better way now.
@@CommissarMitch Yeah since NMS I'm never pre-ordering, I'm never paying more than £20, NMS has ruined the trust I've had with games.
It may be better now, but NMS will always be to me what it was at launch - a huge disappointment I couldn't get a refund on (also I wasn't given the pre-order ship which was the perk of pre-ordering, it was in the menu but it wouldn't give it to me)
@@skylark.kraken so no matter how something changes it will always be a huge disappointment, even if it far exceeded the initial promise? 🤨
@@TabalugaDragon I can’t fucking land the ship to play the game, I’m stuck flying. The game looks much improved but I’m unable to play it
As wide as an ocean, but deep as puddle.
You forgot to say the ocean is muddy.
If I could go my entire life without ever seeing this stupid phrase ever again
More like _18 Quintilian light years wide, but only one millimeter deep._
(13)
-Angry Joe 2016
+Doc Destro no
"You find and collect things in NMS, in order to make it easier for you to collect things in NMS"
Just realised that NMS is a glorified clicker.
I still come back to this video sometimes, to listen to as I fall asleep. I have no idea why.
I do that with basically every 30+ minutes game review i know, mainly on the ones with pleasant voices such as this one :P
lol literally what I'm doing right now
I find Joseph’s voice soothing.
I do to. I put the playlist on every night. Usually listen to one review intently and fall asleep before the next. Let’s me really get into one, get a great night sleep, and looking forward to the another great video before zoning out for sleep again! Never found another channel quite like this.
Now this is a true horror game.
That was just miserable to watch. Like its a good video but damn the pain to get though this game was way too apparent.
Would love to see a 2021 critique of the game.
YES! It doesn't even have to be a video, I just want him to say **something**
@@laethenglish1299 In his Fallout 76 video, he mentioned how Hello Games gained more respect from fixing the game. He didn't make his opinion on it clear though.
"I turned the game off, and I will never play it again."
@@voidgivenfocus I know people who said that at the release and still went back to it later because of the massive changes brought by the updates, it's definitely no longer the same game.
Downloaded. Sound did't work. Died within three minutes because resource nodes didn't spawn properly. Uninstalled. See you in 2026.
The ending to this video was the most beautifully put feelings of despair and passive anger... It felt like i was there with him, being insulted by the game and feeling the most contempt for a game i have not felt in a long time.
Simply great Poetry.
So basically Spore is a better No man's sky , than No man's sky ?
yep, i remember actually enjoying my time with spore.
Spore is very old, but you can always start again and get enjoyment out of it too
Paraxite meh i probably put like 100 hours into spore back when i had it on CD and i picked it up a month ago for like 3 bucks on steam i haven't played more than 30 mins of it
yes
Skyrim is a better NMS than NMS. Hell, DOS Elder Scrolls games are better NMS than NMS.
That is the most fitting ending I have ever experienced in one of your videos. Nice work Mr. Anderson. Thank you for taking, yet another, one for the team.
"I turned the game off, and I will never play the game again."
LOL just about sums up everything
Well, how about now, 4/5 updates later, still keeping NMS?? Your surprised how freaky much has changed since 2016..
Keeping NMS off i mean
@@23Raymond22 I don't know man. I just tried it hoping it would be worth playing now. Yes, they changed a lot, added multiplayer support, massively enhanced basebuilding and updated graphics. Kudos for the devs for staying instead of taking the money and running away. But lots of Josephs criticism still stands. Most importantly, all planets are still exactly the same, just reskinned. There is nothing (!) of interest to find. Exploration is pointless. If you're only interested in basebuilding it might be worth a try, but even then you spend a massive amount of the time within the game world, exploring or grinding and it's just boring.
This video broke my heart
Such a sad ending
ikr
Seriously. That ending was a real gut punch.
That ending made me erect :)
Sean Murray XD I'M CRYING
LMFAOOOOO SEAN MURRAY xD !!!
The center of the universe is literally "sorry your princess is in another castle" or more like "sorry the game you wanted is in a different game, thanks for your money"
THE GAME YOU WANTED IS IN A DIFFERENT GAME 😭 why must you be so brutal
This games great now though
For those of you wondering about the "Birth of a Star" option for the Atlas, what happens is it tells you that a new explorer has just begun in the new Star just like you, and then you leave. Thats it.
For what is worth, that dedication to your videos just earned you a new sub. Great video.
Agreed. I commend any reviewer who'll see every single game through to the end - even to their dismay.
"Unfortunately, I can still keep going"
I have seen alot of videos about no mans sky. This is the most well made and well thought out video about any game i have ever seen. I honestly don't think a tv series company or massive team of a hundred people could make a better game review video than this one. This video is what i will forever judge all over game review videos on. Thank you for the video and i am defiantly subscribing for more :)
To add abit more, i have a habbit of skipping bits of every video i see. I havnt watched a video in around a month without skipping aleast bits of it. This video is the first in ages i actually watched all the way through. I didn't want to miss any of it. Amazing video.
Thanks so much! Great to hear you enjoyed it that much.
I agree, I usually can't stand sitting through long RUclips videos because there is too much 'filler' and not enough meaningful content. But I watched your entire critique of The Witness in one sitting and was thoroughly engaged start to finish, so much so that I proceeded to binge-watch your NMS, Darkest Dungeon and Hearthstone videos. I enjoyed how well, objectively, and thoroughly you presented your arguments, especially with The Witness where even though I have not played it, you convinced me of the dilemma where I know I would love the moments of discovery and environmental puzzles but probably would not be able to drudge through the hundreds of tablet-esque ones.
I do feel that perhaps you were a bit less objective on the Hearthstone video. Your points were certainly valid, but I felt you didn't thoroughly evaluate design decisions made by Blizzard as well as you could have, rather dismissing them as not knowing what they were doing and providing an illusion of depth. Just my feeling though, I am not really qualified to critique. That was an older video anyway and I think you do a great job now :)
Anyway, keep up the good work! I would love to hear more of what you have to say. I am curious what criteria you have for selecting which game to do a video on though. Obviously it's a very significant time sink. Might I suggest Overwatch?
Yes i agree, i wasnt keen on the hearthstone video but that's only because its not my kind of game. I would also like to suggest overwatch it would be great to your in depth thoughts of overwatch :)
Eddygeek18 *your
This video is so accurate it makes me feel real depressed by the end.
"To say it's an Early Access game is just as bad, it's like an Earliest Access game."
This quote turned out to be insanely prophetic
The best summation i've heard of it was Rich Evans talking about how Minecraft is a deeper game. He said something to the effect of "You start and its sunny and nice and you punch trees and make a shitty house and everythings great. Then night falls and at night the monsters come." Theres no hook to this beyond the basic idea and no challenge to overcome. It reeks of an early build pushed out too soon to a religious zeal level of hype sold as a retail build. God would i love to read a book about this whole mess years after the fact.
en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/summation
To summarise, summarisation and all that lark.
Wait, Rich Evans? As in Dick the Birthday Boy?
Dick the Birthday Boy himself.
Your channel is shockingly underrated. You earned my sub at least.
Keep it up man.
Anyone else back here after the new Internet Historian?
@@allanthomson9372 ah, thanks for letting me know.
hi :)
I play No Man's SKy recently, it's still bad and I ran into several game breaking bugs within like three hours.
Servebotfrank I played it recently too, but unlike you I had no bugs.
So either it is your computer, or you found new bugs.
Hello Games should have a bug report option iirc so you can just send them that instead of complaining.
Honestly games would be better if we did that but whatever.
Compared to day one, which I played, the new version is leagues better and is actually fun.
@@twenty-fifth420 same here, I played recently, quickly got sucked in and lost a week to that game. No bugs to speak of, let alone gamebreaking bugs. I ended having to put down b/c college is starting and it was to much of a time sink.
I was gonna buy a ps4 for this game......jesus I dodged a fucking bullet
Or for Bloodborne!
I bought a ps4 just for bloodborne. highly recomend it too
A couple of hundred dollars and a fucking bullet do not compare.
Its a shit game but you still need a PS4.
Get an XBox1S.
It's not the destination that matters, it's da juuuurneeeeey....
THE LONG JOURNEY TO THE RESTART BUTTON
Rod VonBoche Then play Journey, it's a lot better than this!
nah Tis the best kind of jurney cos then you get to jurney again, trot along a whooole new world !
To shoot at rocks !
Fuck yeah !
Way to go, Harry...
more like the short journey to uninstall button
I'm glad that this review exists for the purpose of archival and to serve as a lesson on the dangers of over-hyping a game. I'm also glad that the people at Hello Games had the integrity and work ethic to stick with it and make the game that they told everyone they'd make.
Had the "integrity" to save face after basically scamming a ton of money*
@@AA-lz4wq A shame most other companies can't even be arsed to do that, and we are forced to see Goodbye Games and Liar Murray as a good example.
@@qinlongfei Not necessarily, NMS wasn't just a glitchy mess like Andromeda or Cyberpunk, it was a nothing game, had it been glitchless at launch it still would've been a really really bad game (for an AAA), like career ending bad, so they HAD to patch it.
@@AA-lz4wq There's this guy, maybe you've heard of him, called Internet Historian. Resident shitposter and archivist of oddities on the net. Did a video on No Mans Sky and to an extent lead developer Sean Murray. In said video it shows that Sean had the whole team go radio silent to work on every major problem people had with the game at the time and worked who knows how many hours to get most of the originally promised features into the game, and some people didn't ask for as well.
We can argue whether this makes the game good, as that is subjective. What's not is that the game has significantly improved over its base release, that's objective and it shows that Sean and the devs of Hello Games really DO care about their game and wanted something better then what they shipped out.
Over-hyping? It was fucking terrible on launch regardless of the hype.
Joe brings up some very good points in this video. I'm almost thinking NMS would have been better as a Rogue-lite game with a lot more scarcity and danger during space travel and planet exploration and mining, where you can legitimately die off or run out of resources due to under-planning or unforeseen consequences, since (like Joe says in the video) the current game just gives you everything you need wherever you need it. Dying would result in permadeath and you would try again, a little more powerful perhaps, and a little wiser. I probably clocked a good 30 hours into NMS, but it's true that at least before its patches it was a game without gameplay.
Meh, this is why we can't have good exploration games.
People like you have to come ruin it with your ideas on how to make it something different. The game's not for you, just accept that you twat.
Again, I run into you, like a courier on his way to Vegas
There is in fact a game simular to what you just described for android devices, its called Out There
@@SherrifOfNottingham Imagine imposing such vulgarity on someone for simply proposing a decent idea, you twat.
I got this game simply because I love space. Played for maybe 30 - 40 hours then realized how much fun I was not having. That was probably only a week or 2 after it was released. Never opened it again.
And now I finally have seen the "ending" and I am speechless. I do not think I have ever hated a game that I have played before. But now I can say that I have.
You should try it again it’s a lot more fun after the updates and new stuff they added.
You really really should try it again.
It got like 5 huuuge updates now, its muuch more content and much more fun now!
I loved the ending.
Cause it served all those idiots right for jumping into a genre they didn't like and acted like they owned the place.
@@SherrifOfNottingham So what about the people who did like the genre and were disappointed by the ending?
Interesting coming back to this now. The game has changed so much in so many ways, but at the end of the day the core of the game is exactly the same with the same purpose.
@STANSAIDSHEWAS18ITWASONTHEPROFILE It's not and you haven't played it if you think so. The game is still boring garbage and a scam.
@@ddd-op5wy
I played it a lot and I think it's fine, it's basically minecraft but with space, next gen graphics and aesthetics.
@@hugorodriguez8672 Minecraft has an ending. One that you get even if it doesn't 100% explain or twist anything because that's what Minecraft sets out to do. It's the sandbox of all sandboxes because the freedom to do anything you like is basically unlimited. In Minecraft there is no narrative at all. You make your own fun and you can because you have so much freedom,
No Man's Sky is not a sandbox. It's very limited in what you can do and the things you do have almost no impact on the world around you. It has the vestigial tail of a narrative because there are NPCs who talk and that hinders the experience more than enriching it. Make a narrative that goes somewhere or don't but don't leave me hanging like a sneeze that never comes.
@@lightsideofsin8969 No man's sky also has a narrative and an ending, I'm not talking about the centre of the galaxy, I'm talking about the artemis path, if you played it you should know what I'm talking about.
NMS is a sandbox, you can ignore completely the story and do whatever you want, it has a very extense variety of things you can do, I have like 60 hours in the game and most of them are me doing whatever I want.
And I don't really get the "you don't have much on an impact on the world", not to disrespect minecraft, but in minecraft you also don't influence much in the world at large.
it’s a decent game, but there’s no depth
I was initially skeptical about having to watch another No Man's Sky video. I felt like a lot of the points I knew would just be reiterated, and while they were, part 2 of your analysis made it shine. You're at your best when you recount your personal experience of the game. It's why I loved your Fallout 4 analysis. The way you decided to deal with Father told me something about you and your experience and I very much appreciated it. Looking forward to seeing more content from you :)
I really like this comment. Thank you for writing it.
Joseph Anderson
You're very welcome :)
If this game had been $20, it could of easily attracted a nice, niche fanbase. It would of had haters, but you can't hate too much on an ambitious, $20 indie title.
Instead, we have a Frakemsteined $60 game.
With an insane religious fan base and defenders with no self awareness
65firered Yep. What a wonderful world
***** America's current selection for presidential candidates shows that well
Pan Z Are you implying that No Man's Sky fanboys are SJWs?
65firered no? Not sure how you came to that conjecture
You seriously deserve an award for this.
What you offer is games Journalism, not just game reviews like the majority of gaming publications, shows, youtube channels, etc.
Thank you.
The end is like: "now you have my permission to die".. hah, poetic!
Thanks for the genuine laugh.
No Man's Sky, the game that makes you go back and play Spore.
Luke McDaniel Except once you get to the final stages if Spore you want to go back to NMS.
Meow Nya Your opinion. :)
I actually really enjoyed spore until i had done everything possible. Then it becomes OH! Why the F*ck did EA make this!
But before that, really good game.
That hp lovecraft quote at the end seemed fitting in a weird way.
Sorry the actual ending is in another Galaxy - Sean Murray
Yeah we have a ending, but the chance you get to it is very slow, You might even find two otherplayers before that happens. - Murray
@@NineSun001 not very slow if you take the Atlas Path. Just because this reviewer chose the slowest way doesn't mean it takes that much time.
I pirated this for 15 minutes and then deleted it
It's not even worth the energy it takes to pirate it.
You know you have fucked up if even the pirates dont want your game on their hdd.
people like you are killing the industry
Stop talking out of your ass, its people like you who are ruining mankind by assuming bullshit faster than the speed of light.
Every game out there that i like, i bust open my wallet for it.
why not buy the game and if you dont like it refund that easy
Man, that ending was so poetic
I cry everytime
It's like the game was created specifically to make Joseph Anderson as upset as possible.
I drop back in every couple of weeks to see if they haven't added something worthwhile, but absent some kind of base building, terraforming, starship/spacestation ownership, major faction wars, or something... anything, it looks like this is a complete bust of a game that will go down in gaming history for all the wrong reasons.
I did that for some other game, hoping whatever new update would suddenly make the game good. It's sad to see something you wanted to like just disappoint you.
Thats what's funny to me. People keep demanding basebuilding and were so stoked when HG announced they might patch it in at some point. What's the point of base building in a game whose entire premise is exploration? There is NO reason to stay in a single spot. I mean, fine, actually there is becasue the exploration is super boring and shitty, but still. I feel like HG doesn't even know their own game.
its a way to find closure, like any space rollplay if you have a faction that you are friends with you can always come back when in danger, specially since it shouldnt be a universe filled and explored already. it would be better if it was like swan song rollplay where you have a crew(possible co-op). heck even create your own faction and powerfight others, trying to find artifacts to become stronger than the others, having the "center of the universe" as the "all mighty power"
When I heard about Sean Murray claiming that player-controlled freighters and base building were coming, I think the way I processed that news was as an indication that they'd hit enough of their original design goals that they felt comfortable moving on and expanding the game into new directions. He made that announcement in a post which linked to a bunch of his own interviews and talks which turned out to be misleading (www.no-mans-sky.com/2016/08/what-do-you-do-in-no-mans-sky/).
So announcing those features were planned and coming implied that they were satisfied with core feature set.
Now the cynic in me thinks that this was partially the impression Sean intended to create (the other part being to get people hyped about more features that will probably never see the light of day). He announced those features before most people knew how shitty the game was or how utterly useless those features would be if dropped into the game as it is currently structured.
As it stands, NMS would need another year or so of full development to become a halfway decent survival/exploration game, to say nothing of adding worthwhile structure-building elements.
I don't think something like base building would be useless in the current game. A lot of people have issues with the fact that we show up to these supposed 'undiscovered' planets and there are already all these buildings and aliens all over the place. I think showing up on an actual undiscovered planet and building your own outposts (to establish contact with the galactic trading network), manufacturing facilities (to generate more resources), and transmission towers (to locate any atlas artifacts or maybe crashed ships) would give us more of a reason to stay on a planet, explore, and gather resources; other than just to gather more resources. The game would still need a graphic upgrade with a ton of new art assets though (maybe make the game twice that tiny 6.9gb size that people kept telling us not to freak out about).
I've heard the game was in development for 4 or 5 years and considering what we ended up with my best guess would be another 2 years just to get the game they originally promised. I have my doubts that this team could ever deliver what they promised though.
That was the most perfect ending to this video
When you set your expectations very low and the game still manages to disappoint you....
Honestly bro, your videos are totally my new favourite source for game information. I love how in-depth you get with them. As for this one in particular: thank you for spending so much time "playing" this mess so that I didn't have to. And that ending... man that disappointment in your voice... it was heart breaking.
That ending is the most beautiful thing I have ever heard.
That ending, wow. Holy crap. What lazy, lazy game design.
It's not game design
It's a programming error
@@TheGunFreak94 He means the ending of the game, not the video
I get the feeling that No Man's Sky is a pun... like 'No Man will ever want to traverse this Sky ever again.' I never played this game, thanfully cause my PC is too crappy to run it, but I read yesterday that the team was charged with false advertising or some such. Following everything I read up on No Man's Sky, I'll say this... I sincerely hope the devs rot in a dark, hellish cell for a long time.
have you tried evochron legacy it looks pretty good its on steam
Gara Sandor Never heard of it, but I'll check it out. Thanks :)
Marc Shanahan
no problem ,have fun :)
It's a play on the phrase "No man's land"
Mr. Missingno No kidding ;) Considering how terrible No Man's Sky is and how improbable it is to meet another Man in the universe, the pun feels justified.
"There's no reason to do anything" No Man's Sky is an allegory for life
30:20 You tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter.
units received
*units received*
*UNITS RECEIVED*
*_UNITS RECEIVED_*
*_U N I T S R E C I E V E D_*
Argon Hey, now I should have enough to buy this really really good Rifle- *Only got 17,000* I only got 17k from that? Seriously?
Hello good sir! Have you heard the good word of our Lord and Savior, *UnItS rEcEiVeD???*
I feel like the game started as an honest project. To create an infinite universe would be an awesome achievement in gaming. They accomplished a form of that, but only that. Its almost like the development started out as just a procedural generation prototype, and when they found out that it could work, they hyped it up to Sony and gained AAA status without actually making a game. So once they got the backing from Sony, they were like, OH SHIT we need to this make generated universe into a game. And.... they failed at that.
Reuben Rodriguez
You're right. From a technological standpoint, they done a great job but as a game it's simply no good
This isn't possible. The game that launched was nowhere near as feature rich as the game they revealed YEARS ago. Which means the reveal was pure bullshit. So from the start, they were dishonest.
Sony was only responsible for the PS4 disc distribution. Nothing else.
TheNotReligious What was different? What features were not included? I studied this game for hours without ever playing it. I just want to know what was deliberately lied about and left out.
Jacob Carey There is a plethora of videos on RUclips showing you what is missing and what is lied about.
From what I remember there is even a Reddit post listing every single thing that was promised and also shows what on that list wasn't included in the game.
You cannot have "been studying this game for hours without ever playing it" because if you had, you'd have stumbled on all those videos.
Now that we're two content updates in, I think it's safe to say that Hello Games is not maliciously and deliberately trying to make the game tedious and monotonous as some sort of statement. They're just plain incompetent.
Watch Shammy at all?
@@JustAJauneArc don't you love when people copy popular youtubers' quotes like the rest of us won't catch on
The game is quite good now tho
don't attribute malice to which it could be better attributed incompetence
They are still updating it
I salute your dedication, sir.
Yo I subbed just cause of your dedication towards finishing the game. That takes some serious mind control.
i pirated this game and i still want my money back
@@0x6e95 wow youre really not fun
@@fyggy5480 Holy shit. That was bad. I don't know why I was so triggered.
@@0x6e95 its fine we all make mistakes sometimes. just watch ur words next time i guess
I haha'd at this.
Me too.
This game brought more misery to people than any other game in existence.
Millions of people disappointed, millions of people wasted 60$ for that crap, millions of people constantly irritated with dozens of nitpicky problems, millions of hours wasted for awful late game grind, hundreds of death threats sent to the devs, millions of pointless internet arguments about it.
Misery, misery, misery.
Aren't games supposed to bring joy?
Or at least be a piece of art, like dark souls, when brining misery.
More misery than E.T?
We were still young back then, there were few really good games in those times.
Spore.
Meh, Spore was worse.
CIA 4U At the very least spore... Functioned...
This was the best review I have seen for No Man's Sky. It makes me feel sad that you really pushed yourself forward only to see that ending. Thank you for making this video!
It’s crazy that as much as the game has improved, the core nuisance issues are still inexplicably there. Still terrible inventory, still a crazy chore to learn language, etc
I fucking loved the first 2 hours or so of this game. It just gives you a sense of awe the first time you do something. The first time you wake up, the first time you fly your ship, the first time you exit the atmosphere, the first time you see your starting planet, the first time you enter a space station, the first time you warp to a new solar system. and then, well then it just becomes a boring painful grind of the same thing over and over. It actually made me so sad to see the path this game went down. it had so much potential. But it didn't happen.
Why is space so colourful in this game?
It'd make sense if that happened every now and then, like if you warped to a star system in the middle of a nebula or something, but it's everywhere!
Why? Did Hello Games think that people would lose interest if space was just a dark abyss like it should be?
Well, they couldn't have expected people to stay for the gameplay, so they gave pretty colors.
Not to forget that you zoom past thousands of asteroids when flying through space at extreme speeds and you never run into any of them, even though they are so densely grouped that there is always one within a kilometer of you. If there were so many asteroids in space like that, you wouldn't be able to see any stars at all.
Also he complained how everything takes so long to get places... Yeah. You're in space.
well I don't know if you know this but realism doesn't equal good
Victor Viridian
I'd actually be more interested in the game if that were the case.
Way better than 90% of other reviews on the game. "It's bad, don't buy.", is usually it.
Holy cow, why the heck did I just watch the whole video? I never intended to buy NMS and still watched it.
You have earned yourself a sub!
I'm not really sure how to describe what I just watched, but damn if I wasn't glued to the video the whole time. You did an outstanding job of explaining your experience with the game.
That said, it's very depressing watching your video, because it further supports the narrative that Sean Murray is a scam artist.
just be glad you didnt have to play it.
I did play it and his review is spot on. he brought up a bunch of things i experienced and forgot about.
0:45 That's a really beautiful sky there. I don't really have anything to add to the conversation here. I just think the sky looks really beautiful there.
Yep. A lot of the planets can look good. Even some of the barren ones can have a great contrast with space.
Wow, that ending was very poetic and well put together. Congratulations on wasting your time on this game for us. It was worth it to see such an amazingly detailed review! Love your content
I pirated the game to see how shit it was and I really liked the first 1 hour or so where you have to repair your ship and you get introduced to the mechanics of the world because it had the same kind of "confused but determined" anxiety that I remembered getting when I first played Minecraft, after that it all went downhill :/
DStork What pirating software did you use?
Joseph Anderson = the faster Mathewmattosis
exactly what i thought!!
Yeah, Matthewmatosis with stamina regen maxed out
Maatthewmatosis is a faster mrbtongue
Teostra nice profile pic! 😉
No, Joseph isn't Matthewmatosis. They have similar styles, but I think Matthew is much more refined in his commentary. I feel like Joseph likes talking about what he did or didn't like in a game (to a very great extent) while Matthew talks about why something is in a game. There's a good reason why his videos take months to complete and you can tell that he's spent a long ass time refining it.
my fiancé was so excited for this game, he preordered and everything.
i felt so bad for him when i saw him get so let down by it.
way too much hype ):
Your fiance is dumb
Don't get tricked by hype
@@TheGunFreak94 Real internet grade mean spirited barb. Totally uncalled for.
Robert Yes, because insulting someone will definitely change their opinion.
Robert so you aren’t ever allowed to get excited by something because that’s dumb? You must live a sad life buddy
I've never watched a review for a video game and have felt like i needed to personally apologize for the reviewer completing the game, that's a new sensation. I'm so sorry you had to play this for 58 hours.
Amazing commentary. Without realizing I clapped at the end.
And the bus driver? Morgan Freeman
I’ve been watching your channel in a binge fashion for a few days. I only just discovered you last week while searching for something, anything, to quench my BOTW thirst and ive been watching you Netflix style for hours now.
I have zero experience with the vast majority of your content, and have no intention of broadening my gaming career. I’m not here to figure out what to play next.
I’m simply addicted to your level of dedication.
When you make a claim, you back it up with more than enough examples to suffice. This is true for every claim. I can imagine you having something you’d LIKE to say about a game, but leave it out of the script if you cannot back it up. And you back it up with numbers, calculations, footage. More than one example. Then through process of elimination you rule out any reason to have any other opinion then the one you so diligently came to.
You are very thorough.
I watch reviews and retrospectives on games i have now idea about nor desire to play because I appreciate the review or the retrospective itself. And you, sir, have just cemented your place in my list of favorite you tubers.
I like Arlo. But i have nothing to say to arlo. In fact i never comment. I am a silent watcher.
But I really felt the need to let you know that i can see the effort you’re putting into your channel and wish you the best of luck growing it to the level you deserve.
I think, in my humble opinion, you are sadly vastly undiscovered, and i think that collaboration with other channels will fix this.
I can easily imagine other reviewers saying “for a more in depth look at these and other issues this game has, check out joseph anderson, link below” and then moving on to make their opinions and claims without the need to back them up, because you already have.
People do talk about him in other reviews/retrospectives saying how they can’t make videos as detailed or as long as this guy
Thank you for sitting through this ordeal for us. I would have loved to play it and looked forward so much to it. But after I heard what was going on I stopped even considering to get it
This end was just heartbreaking
Letty Whiterock!!! ♥
It's been happening for awhile now. Not just 2016.
at least you dont wasted your money in this trash, by happy for it because alot of people got scamet here
dedicationtoKiKi I thought the ending was fitting lol
As much of a disappointment this game was, its soundtrack is absolutely fantastic. It's the only redeeming factor NMS has to offer for me to not be a complete disaster.
Ironically enough the person in charge of the music/soundtrack to this game is the only one responding to the public at the moment. Probably because he knows he did a good job. It's just the other 14 devs didn't.
To be fair, I think 13 of those devs still did a very good job at _what they were tasked to do_. As an experimental indie game, NMS is okay in my eyes. Their problem was Murray delivering completely unreasonable expectations to the outside, bundled in a 60$ game.
Selbi inkille. I don't see it like you. So what your saying is the folks in that company did not talk with sean at all. and he just kept talking about everything he wanted in the game.
No that just not how it is.
They all talked together about the game and sean was the lead devoloper. they all knew what they had before release.
and they had plenty of time to let the consumers know what they are gonna get if the buy the game. but no change was made to their advertisment. all up to the release.
trust me they knew what would happen. if they had shown the real product. instead of 2 year old CGI. and what Sean was saying.
But they did nothing. they kept it to themself. in fear of loosing customers.
I hope they get ruined.
Sure they had good ideas and could proberly have made a good game if they hadlike 2-5 years more on it. but thats just not good enogh. they released a early access game in early apha sate. for a AAA price. with half of it missing.
I agree. I try not to comment on music in games because I don't feel qualified to judge. But I've listened to some of it while not playing the game. It's really great.
Selbi Inkille
No not really even that it's the fact that Murrary simply lied. That's the issue. He said dozens of things would be in the game during multiple interviews and showed gameplay footage on the steam store page that simply is not in the game.If the devs cant meet expectations that's fine and understandable and I think the community would be more forgiving. Sure the game would probably be only getting like 60 percent positive or mixed reviews but its because they lied that it's a problem. That my friend is called false advertising and it's supposed to be illegal in the U.S. and most first world countries. I'm quite disappointed in steam that they stuck by their refund policy and refused to refund anyone past the two hour mark when they knew what was being advertised on their store page was false. Gee maybe the reason people were going past that two hour mark wasn't because they were trying to play the game and then return it but because they were wasting time looking for content that was said to be in the game that wasn't. Which is why I feel like Valve should have done better and given us some slack on that because this game was straight up fraud. If they would have said the game would have had what it did nobody would have had an issue. Strangely though I doubt they would have been able to charge 60 dollars for it either now would they? Na this whole game and team or a few of them were involved in this scam. And that is exactly what it was a scam and I really hope they are punished for it to prevent future devs from thinking they can pull the same kind of crap in the future.
Watching this in mid-2019, I for one am grateful for honest and logical critique like yours. Without it, Hello Games might not have completely overhauled NMS like the game needed and deserved.
Is it worth playing now?
@@kirkbupkis yeah, not for full price, but on a discount it's more than worth
It has proven to be a labor of love for the studio. Try it.
It's like the most beautiful, obfuscated and fractalized version of Desert Bus ever.
Watching this video was somehow a very emotional experience
spent half my work day watching/listening to your videos
no regrets
This is the best, most thorough review of any game I've ever seen. I previously chose not to have the ending spoiled for me, thinking I would one day come back to the game and see it for myself, but you earned the right to let me know the truth by your incredible analysis and critique. Subscribed for your dedication, looking forward to more from you. Thank you sir :)
Thanks!