Trains on Cine Film in the 1970's - Spalding, ECML and Woodhead
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- I hope this video will bring back memories for many. I have spent many hours producing this short video from my old Cine Film of the 1970's, it shows Deltic's and other diesels Through Spalding plus Class 76 Electrics over the Woodhead route, The Quality is way down on todays standard but that's all we had in those days.
Great sequence I grew up on the ECML in the late sixties and seventies so these locos were very familiar to me. We also spent three holidays not far from the Woodhead line in the mid seventies and I would usually spend a couple of days spotting (when the weather was nice) whilst the family went off to visit a stately home. I realise the railway had to modernise but it had so much more variety and character back then despite the rundown appearance of many of the stations and infrastructure. Thanks for taking the time to post.
Thanks Phil, Glad you enjoyed it
Absolutely fabulous. Growing up in the 70’s the only one downside to watching this is it reminds me of times when this country seemed much better ( which I’m sure some will disagree with )
Apart from the huge inflation, 3 day weeks, Winter of discontent, misogyny, racism and homophobia!
Melanie Rhianna. As I said, not everyone would agree. But I was born in 1970 so grew up in the 70's and have fantastic childhood memories.
Stupot ,you are correct, for all its ills I would go back to the 70's in a heartbeat!
Alas ,though we were too young to realise it, the country was under attack from within by Cultural Marxist's and clossett Communists as another poster has highlighted !
Fast forward to the present, luckily people are finally waking up although I don't ever see England returning to the civilised country it was.
Regards.
@@stupot50english82I also was born in that year, we were too young to realise those bad aspects of life.
At least our teenage years we saw a boom in the nation
Absolutely outstanding footage
Many thanks!
Mind blowing Roy! What a totally different world that was, and my god the sounds were stunning. Thank you so much for uploading this Roy, I feel very lucky to have seen it - Brilliant! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Many thanks Kev, Glad you enjoyed it.
Sounds aren’t real, they are dubbed. Badly.
@@aureol40012 thanks for that excellent contribution
@@marksmith7460My sentiments exactly.
Simply wonderful stuff. I think mid 70s to early 80s was the best era on BR, especially for diesels.
That said, the 76s are particular favourites and I made several journeys over the Woodhead route and through the tunnel. Seeing double-headed 76s on coal including mgr is ingrained in my brain.
Ngl the Deltics sound cool
Marvellous footage from the old electrics to Inter City 125s.
Thanks Pat
One of those films that makes u cry and wonder where it all went wrong 🙄😂
Glad you enjoyed it Paul
Working people voting Conservative
@@jimusgrimus don't think politics has a thing to do with it. ..
@@delticnapierdccsound4236 we kept voting for the party that offered to tax less and spend more. We always have and always will.
@@jimusgrimus union militantism didn't help.
Very good, must of taken you many hours, smashing sound!!
Yes, Debbie thanks, getting lots of favorite comments. X
Love this video it brings back some memories from the late 1970a as a kid!!!😎
Glad you enjoyed it.
Fantastic film and takes me back. I remember when I first saw the intercity 125s and thought I was seeing the future. In fact I was, the fact GWR and Scotrail have refurbished and are using them extensively shows how much of the future they were. 45 years and they still look modern and are still doing a great job. The old BR often got a bad name but those trains were inspired. A testament to British design and engineering.
So very true Patricia, "British Built Best".
British is Best no doubt about it. Politicians sold us out
Roy this is fantastic! The Deltics, a 33 and a 'Western' 47 at Spalding - all with glorious sound. The hidden gem is the Woodhead footage, possibly the first time I've heard what a 76 actually sounded like since the 70s. I didn't want the footage to stop.... Have you got any more? Thanks goodness you had the foresight to record what has become historical and amazing
Glad you enjoyed it Steve, Sorry to say I haven't got anymore from that time that's of any use, Cine film was expensive and didn't run for long, I wish I had now,
@@royharrison4122 that's the sad thing about cine film compared to video - cost a *LOT* of money
Vhs was much more economical
Fantastic, an amazing collection there. Loved the Deltics of course(especially my pet 55015), but also great to see the Woodhead line and 76s. Some great memories there from my childhood when my love of railways was still in its early years.
Many thanks!
Class 47 and Deltic nice to them and HST
Thank you Graham
I think what I need to say has already been said by the majority of individuals who have witnessed this fantastic footage of 1970s railway history..... Bloody fantastic!!! This was my era for loco spotting, from the early 70s til the early 80s.... I live near Bristol, so Deltics were an absolute rarity and had to travel to King's Cross to see them..... I remember Colossus the class 47. And got the entire set of Westerns, also the entire set of Class 47s, the last one being at Haymarket, near Edinburgh..... Happy childhood days.... Thank you so much for posting this historic video of railway footage....
Me to..I grew up in Birmingham and the Birmingham to Bristol railway line ran just at the back of my house and towards the bottom of my garden so as a kid in the 1970s and early 80's and especially during the school summer holidays me and my mates sat on the bank all day watching the trains go by..and yes you're spot on Deltics were a rarely seen thing even on that stretch of line but tons and tons of 45 peaks 47's Duffs and by the late 70s early 80's the new HST'S..also a real treat was seeing on occasions the two 37 lickey bankers that rolled past a few times a week..really happy times
Brilliant!
Thank You.
My first ever memory of trains was going to London in 1969 on a train pulled by one of these on the ECML. I am going to annoy a lot of people though by saying I'm glad I just missed out on dirty inefficient steam and grew up in the proper good old days of the diesels!
The Crompton was a surprise; how did that get there?
By travelling along the tracks being driven
Most likely with a special for the Spalding flower festival. A number of excursions came up from the southern with cromptons in the late 70’s and early 80’s as I recall.
I defy anyone to tell me the Deltics do not have the face of a startled robot.
Absolutely wonderful. The sound was amazing for the age of the film stock. Thanks' for posting.
Many thanks!
Cracking video Roy!
Brings back a lot of fond memories!
Wish we could go back...
Thanks Michael, glad it brought back memories.
That was absolutely brilliant. Thank you so much for posting. 🍻
Glad you enjoyed it Derek.
Very nice. Would love to have seen Spalding in it’s heyday when it was very busy!
Thanks, Glad you like it, Yes it was a busy station in the past.
Good quality recording on cine and I miss the screaming valeta 125 engines the preserved class 43 at york isnt original the lights ain't original I'm not sure about its engine either!!!
How good did those inter-City 125s look lol
Yep...the HSTs were panned by quite a few enthusiasts for being 'boring' back in the day. However they represented a big leap performance wise over even the Deltics and damn did they look good in that livery. Especially those first class trailers.
Only used on East Coast Main Line and GWR I believe? Don't remember them on WCML
Thank you for this window into the past, I was born in the late 80's so I never got to see anything as interesting and as varied as what's in this footage.
Wow 33044 on for'n metals, that must have been a sight for spotters indeed for one so far out of the SR...
Cromptons did go on tour far from home now and then.
My two favourite class’s , 55 Deltic and the class 76 electrics , had a fantastic view of the wath branch of the woodhead route from my bedroom window and went to Doncaster to see the Deltics, both withdrawn at the same time 1981, went to reddish and guide bridge to say my farewell to the 76’s and to Doncaster works to say farewell to the Deltics , it was sad seeing both classes in long scrap lines awaiting they’re fate , thankfully six Deltics one EM1 76 were preserved along with two EM2 77 ex woodhead coco’s after their service in Holland, strange that the EM2’s sold as surplus in the late sixties out lasted the class 76’s, the Dutch got a bargain.
One of the saddest things i ever witnessed was the death of Wath yard, that was my playground as a kid along with Wath RD junction. My step dad was a guard based at Wath back in the day and in the school holidays he sometimes took us for a ride in the guards van up Woodhead. Aye, they were the days.
@@poodle559 Brilliant, that was the one thing I always wanted to do a trip on the woodhead , whenever I bike to manvers lake on the TPT I always think of wath sheds and the 76’s, when I was a kid Ernest and Gordon the signalmen at elsecar junction would let me raise and lower the barriers for the crossing
@@poodle559 Brilliant, that was the one thing I always wanted to do a trip on the woodhead , whenever I bike to manvers lake on the TPT I always think of wath sheds and the 76’s, when I was a kid Ernest and Gordon the signalmen at elsecar junction would let me raise and lower the barriers for the crossing
The class 76s I just about remember them on the Manchester to sheffield run!.they used to always be a few stabled at guidebridge yard I used to look at them when I was about 7 in 1979-80 happy days!!!
Happy days indeed Justin.
Unfortunately I never got to see the 76s and Woodhead before it was all taken away, I do remember riding on the 125s up to York with my dad.
@@johnchurch4705 still a few 125s about but the railways ain't the same anymore we still got a few old locomotives about more class 37s than any other class! I just about remember the 76s on the woodhead route I was about 7 when my dad took me to Sheffield from Manchester Piccadilly via the woodhead line happy days of our once great railway infrastructure that's n8w dominated by bog units!!!😥😥😥
The Deltics were pure throbbing beasts. I cabbed on at Selby station in 1977 when I was a 13 year old kid. Pure Power. Thanks to the Driver who was a true enthusiast just like me and my friends
Fantastic footage , thank you for uploading it , woodhead with original sound ( most dub with AC sound not the same at all ) do you mind if I put a link to this video on the Barnsley and district railways site on Facebook?
Glad you enjoyed it, its fine by me if you wish to share this Mick.
Amazing! Actual real live Deltics, brand new HSTs; the scene of the HST and Class 40 crossing is priceless.
And 55007 passing 47508.
Thanks Andrei!
I took a photo at York in 1979 of 55006 hauling HST 6 through the centre roads at 01.00.
Great memories. Deltics and Peaks were my favourites. You could tell what was coming from the engine noise before you saw them.
Indeed!
Deltics were regulars on the London Cleethorpes turn out and back.
125s were used in and out of Cleethorpes as well
9:35 That's such an evocative sequence from the Railway Museum, showing Meld and the APT prototype, with York Minster on the skyline. A happy time and place for so many of us.
Thanks for posting, Roy. Brought back lots of happy memories of my spotting days.
Glad you enjoyed it
Do you have anything showing the eight-gates crossing when it actually had 8 gates?
No Andy, but there are shots of the "4 Gates" on "Trains at Spalding 1984" which was after the Bourne line gates had gone. ruclips.net/video/0Th8omSIuak/видео.html and others on my channel.
So nice to see and hear Deltic's rumbling through spalding and in one clip a class 33 on a passenger working certainly wasn't expecting to see that! fantastic video thank you sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
The 33 world have a been on a flower show special from the southern region and return and the black backed nameplate of Colossus on 47086 was a Cardifft to Spaulding flower special and return working.... fantastic footage, thoroughly enjoyed it four times in a row..... The Deltics especially as I chased them up and down the ECML from 1977-81 bagging them all except 1 & 20 which I saw in service a couple of times each and at Doncaster Works as they rusted away until 1980.....55019 was my machine with nearly 3600 miles behind her
Halcyon days....some magical footage there Roy, Many thenks!
Cheers Stu.
U really have some classic quality vids, thanks for sharing
Glad you like them!
FANTASTIC. Cannot say more.
It went wrong the day of the internet
Roy many thanks you have done it a again a fantastic blast from the past, just the audio alone is brilliant brings back so happy memory's from the good old days, remember the Deltics going hell for leather though Grantham and Doncaster non stop and watched may a time them pull away on one engine and bringing the other engine in when on the move and wonderful Woodhead video as well one of my favourite lines
Glad you enjoyed it
When HST's had the old paxman engine and unmistakable whistling sound.
Sure did James.
And the stink when they applied the brakes.
Well done Roy- solid gold and easily the best thing on telly this Christmas (although the Repair Shop was good too!)
I only saw the 76s when they were in bits at Reddish- numbers scored in the Combined Volume at the time but not as good as seeing them moving:-(
Best wishes for 2021 and keep up the great work:-))
Thank you Ned, Nice to know I am up there with "The Repair Shop", that's my favorite on TV.
Great stuff Roy- when I asked my partner what she wanted for Christmas she said ‘For Will from the Repair Shop to come round and fix the Kitchen cupboards!!!’ ...I got the message and they are all done now:-))
That was great! Thanks for taking the time to upload.
My pleasure!
All been said already Roy.... what an outstanding piece of footage, 15 minutes of pure gold.... just when I became interested in railways, simply great days with so much variety and interest. Awesome footage.... I will watch this again and again, many thanks for posting 👍👍👍
Wow, thanks, glad you enjoyed it Ian.
Great vintage shots with the superb sound of the Deltic.
Many thanks!
Don't pay any attention to the naysayers - this is marvellous!! Many thanks for the memories!
Many thanks Kev, glad you enjoyed it, I have dealt with that "Naysayer" sent him packing.
is this trains on cinefilm or locos on cinefilm, some of us weren't around in the 70s and would like to see rolling stock too
Nothing wrong with the quality. We can see what we can and that's ok.
Loved this. Loved the deltics and the 76s
Glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks for sharing Roy. Nice peice of history recorded there. Unfoutounatly the Deltics were withdrawn and the Woodhead route had closed once I had started taking and interest and travelling around the network. One of my regrets was that I hardly took any photos of my travels back then! Happy new year to you and all the best for 2021. Stay safe. Regards, John
Thanks for the info John, best regards for 2021.
That brought back a lot of memories! How did you manage to keep the camera so steady when stood on the platform next to Pinza?! What I remember was the Deltics made the whole ground shudder. Nice to see the old DC engines - I spent quite a few hours on Penistone station as a young teenager waiting for them to pass through.
Yes Malcolm you could feel the noise of the Deltic's in your bones, I am pleased I made the sound recordings on Cassette Tape. but it wasn't easy matching that during editing.
Diversions off the ECML between Doncaster and Peterborough via GN & GE joint between Doncaster and Spaulding the GN to Peterborough. Do they still divert that way or is it all replacement bus services these days? Lived at Woodhouse just East of Rotherwood and Gran lived at Darnall so remember the Woodhead Electrics.
The line is still used for ECML diversions.
You've done a great job.
The video is fantastic, the sound is particularly good.
The footage is priceless. Many thanks.
It takes everyone back😊
Thank you too!
Listening to a Deltic is like a Spitfire on rails
Never mind the quality is not that good the content more than makes up for it Excellent The 33 a rare visitor and the sound of the Deltic leaving Peterborough on full power wonderful. I travelled through Woodhead a few times on Sunday diversions but never saw the 76's working on freights there. Saw most of them around Guide Bridge Happy memories Thanks to taking the time and effort to edit this
Well said! Glad you enjoyed it.
That noise.
Great sound isn't it!
Amazing, and with sound, it given me,...Needles and Pinza 🎵🎶🎵🎶
Rock on!
Thanks for all your trouble. The quality gives a real feel for the history.
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow! My two favourite locomotives in one place! Great stuff thankyou
Glad you enjoyed it
Absolutely superb Roy! Thanks for sharing. Did you ever go and film down the joint line at places like French Drove?
No, I only took photographs back then.
Glad you enjoyed it
I was hoping you had something like this in your collection. Many thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it Mike.
Great video with delltics and 40s and Woodhead route. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Cracking video, amazing atmosphere, loved it.
Glad you enjoyed it
The good old days ❤Everything is here the sound of the Napier and Paxman Valenta to the Brush and EE Sulzer Type Locomotion,Sadly nowadays this is not the case ,Iconic footage ❤️Want a time machine to go back to when Blue ruled the Rails before Privatisation.The sight of Class 76s is just wow ,Amazing 😍
Thank you Roy for transferring these old films to digital to get them on to RUclips, I know that was a lot of work doing that. Two of my favourite spotting places as well. Essendine in steam days, we used to spend many a Sunday afternoon picnicing on that manicured flat embankment, now it is just a mess like many other places. Woodcroft was a nice place in the 70/80s but the footbridge is no more. Then all those Deltics through Spalding, shear bliss with that throbbing noise.👍👍👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Great new video update . like it very much.
Many many thanks
Good to see 08 133 again. Used to look out for it going down to Geests and the Beet Factory to collect BR covered wagons and Interfrigo wagons.
Yes, remember it well Patrick.
Exellent footage love the deltics.
Sadly that was all that was left of the old line up to Grimsby, other than the part between Boston and Firsby curve. Losing the East Lincs line was a terrible decision.
Big thanks for sharing great to see Deltic,s at Spalding and the 33.
Glad you enjoyed it
Well done on capturing stereo sound !
Happy New Year Roy . Not much rail action but did get to the Kwai b4 the virus struck love to all Bob
And Happy New Year to you Bob, Not much action from this end either, We are in Lock down again, just waiting for the Jab. Looking forward to getting out with the camera in the Spring.
@@royharrison4122 Good luck Roy stay safe .
Wow! Best video yet! Thankyou for sharing
Wow, thanks!
Unfortunately the railway was doomed to secondary role as soon as technology had enabled the go anywhere at anytime vehicle.I have many good memories of working on BR in the 70s however as soon as the catalogues invented White Star and BR was left with Rolls of Carpet we were finished in Collected and Delivered..the end of parcels by rail was imminent
Those HST's must have been new; and good to see those class 76's - a rare sight on RUclips :)
Thank you Jon, glad you enjoyed it.
They must have been very new at the time. Notice that in the very early days they had no TGS. The guards compartment was in the power car.
@@12crepello (and Jon Crawford) the Intercity 125 entered service in 1976 (and it's STILL going today!).....so yea, they were pretty new in this footage. Am guessing it's from the mid to late 70's (76 or 77).
It was good that you captured the "Traveller's Fare" special passing through Peterborough, Roy. That must be incredibly rare footage.
Ah Pinza 💙 The first Deltic I saw & the first I got pulled by. You never forget your first smelly delly.
wow this is a treasure trove
Couldn't agree more with the comments,, so much memories flooding back,,, I never wanted to go home on my days outs transporting days,, sadly today i fear its not the same, I get fed up after 10 mins, I`ll be watching this video time and time again
Glad you enjoyed it Derek.
Wonderful footage! I'm curious as to why they're all coming through Spalding. Next major junction is Sleaford where they can go onto Lincoln or head to Grantham.
Line closure between Peterborough and Doncaster I guess.
@@markcf83 They'd be going Lincoln, Gainsborough, Donny then is my guess.
No offence, but the content and quality of camera technique warrents a much better film to video conversion, a 2k scan of material would look amazing
The unsung hero the class 47
Great video, and sound too, great stuff.
Thank you kindly!
Brilliant! Great memories of Essendine before the bushes blocked the view of the trains.
Thanks Andrew, yes the lineside is not the same anywhere these days.
Don't worry as network rail has blitzed the country side of all it's trees anywhere near a railway line !!!!!!!
Cracking. Thx for taking the time to put it together.
Thanks Scott, Glad you enjoyed it.
The legendary class 76s
wonderful video. love seeing film in the br blue era. I assume the celtics and hst's in Spalding were on divert.
Great footage I’ve got loads of photos of Guide Bride from the late 70s early 80s and this took me back to the good old days 👍
Great video & those were the days old trains which were pulled by real tractor engines!🇬🇧👏👍
How much money was invested in the electrification of the Woodhead route? only to close within 30 years and we now talk of HS2!!!
Nothing changes
@@royharrison4122 You are right there! I must say the films are very interesting from times gone by, appreciated
Memories come flooding back to my train spotting days from the 70s … Brilliant
Wow! what a treasure is this.
We had the EM2's in the Netherlands, I had several trips behind them.
But I always considered them as odd looking machines between the French and Baldwin electrics we had which of course were wider and taller than the EM2's, I didn't know they were bought second hand from the UK as a youngster in the 1970's.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Outstanding video if only we could have locomotives running like this now
Thanks, Roy. A real treat.
Glad you enjoyed it Paul.
The sound of those Deltic's : ) once heard never forgotten. Great to have a blast back to the past, thank you for sharing...DA.
Glad you enjoyed it
great stuff much enjoyed
Glad you enjoyed it
Really enjoyed this thank you Roy👌
Glad you enjoyed it
Great vid Roy, I'm a southeast section lad being born in North Kent and the class 33 on a passenger train that far north. Was that an unusual motive power?. Thanks again for the memories. - buddy-
A class 33 would often be seen on a Special train to the "Spalding Flower Parade" held in May.
This was in my spotting era, 1975 to early 80's. Loved it! I used to spot on the WCML at Leyland where I lived, electrics galore, plus plenty of DMU's. Not many diesel loco's though. Used to go to places like York for a complete contrast (no wires back then) and many other places around the country on "trips". I've still got my Ian Allen books and even some of the hand written records of my trip days out. Love watching footage like this, it really takes me back to my "misspent youth". Thanks Roy!
Glad you enjoyed it Ian, I am glad that I took it and have managed to transfer it to the modern media we have now, I have got some footage of Leyland taken in 1988 and hope to put it on sometime so keep watching.
@@royharrison4122 Hi Roy, that would be fantastic to see. I'd stopped spotting by then but have always kept a keen interest in railways...............