Aikido techniques, you WON'T learn in your dojo

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @f4ll3nang3l2
    @f4ll3nang3l2 2 года назад +5

    As a practitioner of numerous martial arts studies and ex-fighter I think what you are saying is very accurate! I would learn the basics and put my own spin to the techniques to be successful! Great videos as always guys!

  • @blacktigermartialarts7329
    @blacktigermartialarts7329 2 года назад +2

    Atemi waza is part of Aikido. O Sensei used to batter his Uchi Deshi around the Dojo

  • @jinyang1116
    @jinyang1116 2 года назад +20

    As a practioner of kendo, taekwondo, judo and boxing for over 10 years, I'm pretty sure over 90% of people who are watching this won't benefit from the video. For the few who really have reached a certain point in their art however, this is golden. If you've been following the teachings of a certain dojo/gym word for word, please experiment, and if that seems to hard, visit other dojos and gyms. I promise it will change your game(sport or street) for the better.

    • @inthefewofmanyg2g902
      @inthefewofmanyg2g902 Год назад

      Never been taught to fight but I can apply anything I watch it’s crazy

  • @Grunt49
    @Grunt49 2 года назад +2

    This was the basis for jeet kune do.Use what works for you! Thank you senseis!

  • @shia_labeouf
    @shia_labeouf 2 года назад +5

    I think its an unfair generalisation to say that sensei deliberately restrict experimentation in order to maintain control over students. I don't think I've ever trained under a sensei that does that. My own sensei absolutely loves exploring techniques and finding new stuff. We regularly discuss the techniques and play around with ideas and he tries to get many guest instructors in because they all have different views which adds to a richer skillset. Occasionally we have extra classes for the higher grades so we can do this kinda thing without confusing the more junior members.
    He sticks to the curriculum for the first few grades because students need to learn the fundamentals and the "standard" way of performing techniques before they understand enough to experiment. Also you need to know the "textbook" answer to pass the gradings. Once you have this understanding, you can start to play with it.
    A white belt learns. A black belt practices.

    • @aikiforreal
      @aikiforreal 2 года назад

      The great thing about gross generalizations is that they are wrong 100% of the time.

    • @scottzappa9314
      @scottzappa9314 Год назад

      it's a generalization but it does happen, and it happens with oriental teachers, and it probably happens a lot more than you think it does. Just because it hasn't happened to you, doens't mean it doesn't happen. There's a certain amount of racism from time to time that enters into it.

    • @shia_labeouf
      @shia_labeouf Год назад

      @@scottzappa9314 Racism like using the term "oriental"? Jesus Christ.

    • @scottzappa9314
      @scottzappa9314 Год назад

      @@shia_labeouf That was to point out that there WAS or IS non-Asian bias going on there, dumb ass.

    • @aikiforreal
      @aikiforreal Год назад +1

      @@scottzappa9314 not sure we're still using "oriental". hmmm 🤔Might be racist. then again, what isn't these days?

  • @nodemever3291
    @nodemever3291 8 месяцев назад

    How could you possibly know what being taught in my dojo or even the name of the dojo or style thought there Oh wait that's click bait huh? Well ya got me it worked good

  • @jarinorvanto4301
    @jarinorvanto4301 2 года назад

    "I'll see you in the next Aikidoflow"
    How does he know all this stuff? Sensei foresight, methinks.

  • @topgsavage1
    @topgsavage1 2 года назад

    Where is Ondrej?

  • @cynthia7242
    @cynthia7242 10 месяцев назад

    😴

  • @VenturaIT
    @VenturaIT 2 года назад

    Because O-Sensei was hardly ever there in Tokyo at Hombu and the other students were running pissing contests to see who was boss. O-Sensei said that Aikido has unlimited divine techniques. But an attacker is not an opponent and a fight is not a duel and a sport is not a martial art and none of those is a war. 99.9% of modern dojos aren't really learning O-Sensei Aikido. O-Sensei always attacked first even if the uke thought he was attacking. So now Aikido is not Aikido, you have to look elsewhere than the Hombu Dojo. However, this kind of improvisation is for black belts and up only. First learn the basics, but modern dojos, at least where I studied tended to string along students requiring decades to become a black belt unless you bowed just right and said the right things and did things just the right way, no individualism was allowed at my former dojo which is now closed. And, by default, if you get into a conflict on the street you are not doing Aikido. The whole point of Aikido is to learn to harmonize. From what I've read most of the 1st generation of O-Sense UCHI-DESHI did not spend years and years and years training directly hands on O-Sensei's wrists. Maybe because O-Sensei travelled a lot.

    • @josephmalone253
      @josephmalone253 Год назад

      So Osensei attacked first but using aikido in a fight is not harmonious and therefore not aikido. That makes no sense.

    • @VenturaIT
      @VenturaIT Год назад

      @@josephmalone253 He's not "using aikido" he uses his hand or fist or foot to attack... Aikido is 90% atemi. Atemi means striking in Japanese... Aikido is first strike and continue from there... few people know this, including big name teachers. I didn't say "using" aikido wasn't harmonious, I said if you get into a fight you are not doing aikido because aikido is harmonizing... to get into a fight you must be in a conflictive state, by definition, this is not aikido... aikido is any way of harmonizing with the situation... you can harmonize in a fight, but first you have to ask how did I get into this fight... the only way you got into the fight is by being conflictive. Aikido is a paradox... if you are doing aikido every second of your life you'll never get into a fight.

    • @VenturaIT
      @VenturaIT Год назад

      @@josephmalone253 Looking for a fight is not aikido... defending using aikido is ok, but if you ever find yourself in a fight, then you are probably not doing your daily aikido... but either way I stopped doing aikido and only do Christianity now... Jesus is the only way. But if you want to do correct Aikido you have to strike or it won't work... O-Sensei always did some kind of strike, and a strike doesn't always look like a boxing or mma type strike.

    • @josephmalone253
      @josephmalone253 Год назад

      @@VenturaIT @Ventura IT striking is offensive grappling is defensive. If someone punches you can armbar them without needing to strike to set it up. You can also grab them to set it up without striking.
      Christianity is not a martial art. I think you are confusing martial arts with religion.
      If I ever find myself in a fight it was probably a home invasion or random attack on the street. Whatever training I do is irrelevant to a criminal assault against me.

    • @josephmalone253
      @josephmalone253 Год назад

      @@VenturaIT yeah that makes no sense. I do aikido and beat up people who break into my house to kill me. Harmony in aikido is probably just aiki which is probably just soft blocking.

  • @visionseeker68
    @visionseeker68 2 года назад +5

    I totally agree with your combined statements about the rigidness of many dojos. This is the type I came from and one of the reasons I left to explore flexible online courses like the ones your guys provide. Thank you!

  • @rogersmith8480
    @rogersmith8480 2 года назад +4

    I am SOOOOOOOOO glad you are out of the DARK SEASON. I was SOOOOOOOOO 😨SCARED😨 to come by this channel. I feel I can come back to this channel again, 😁😁😁😁😁.

  • @giosipiano1026
    @giosipiano1026 2 года назад +2

    Totally spot on guys…in all fairness to my old dojo, the instructor would always talk about the eventual understanding of abbreviations of the techniques, the smaller circles, the so called ara waza (in Iwama Ryu)..problem is, we never got to any. But I think I understand why now - it’s safer and easier to work on all the Kihon in class. Thankfully, some of the black belts took to the park, put on the pads, put on head guards and explored. This way of training works. I just think dojos need to be more clear on what they are teaching and the goals.
    I later had the pleasure of training with Sensei Lapinlampi in Nishio Aikido, and he positively encouraged and developed our applications. And we did don head gear, and got to play…😊

  • @goldentwilight1944
    @goldentwilight1944 Год назад +1

    My Aikido school completely cut Rokyo out of the syllabus. They said it was too dangerous to train responsibly???. And try finding a school that will even talk about finger locks (Yubi Dori).

    • @josephmalone253
      @josephmalone253 Год назад

      Rokyo is safe to train. Even the most dance flow aikido schools train this. Finger locks are not a thing. Rogue warriors does them but is not standard aikido. You want jujutsu not aikido. Finger locks is really just grab Finger and snap it in half.

  • @giovanniraffaeli3109
    @giovanniraffaeli3109 2 года назад +2

    Well, you came to the point. I can testify too often in dojos we follow too much aestetic rather than martiality. I agree : make the fundamentals part of your body and spirit. Then, without need of thinking of them, they must adjust to the real "street" situation automatically. True that too often in some dojos they correct you if you do not stick to the teacher 's own style. Fortunately we have always attended meetings all over Italy and worked with many different teachers

  • @jeffreyivery4299
    @jeffreyivery4299 2 года назад +2

    I'm 67 years old I have been a student of self-defense for 55 years now started when I was 12 and both Jason and Azu are right about everything they are saying practice practice practice and fundamentals are very very important and of course NO FEAR I'm six feet tall and I'm 260 in weight so nobody really tries me on the street but when people try me they get surprised not only by what I can do but my age as well lol I look 40 but also remember its not what u know but what u can with what u know I love the guys at akidoflow they are very good very good indeed we all can learn alot from them even me u never stop learning so I thank u all of u with Aikidoflow........

  • @markhudson3354
    @markhudson3354 2 года назад +1

    You guys need to cut to the point. You waffle a bit. You need to aikido flow flow lol

  • @RuiChui
    @RuiChui 10 месяцев назад

    In Yoshinkan Aikido that's actually the point. You learn and repeat the fundamentals. Then you learn to flow... then you BECOME the flow. You only learn to become the flow when you start your Shodan, and it's a gradual systemic process.

  • @davidwayne9982
    @davidwayne9982 2 года назад

    Many people skip that one point-- arts are designed in moves ONE way for PRACTICE and learning of the principles-- but actual implementation would get yo sorry ass kicked if you did it that way... and they call the art INEFFECTIVE.. I MATRIX arts-- I take every art-- the ones I do- and remove any redundant, repetitive useless moves and check every one I keep based on basic physics to see what is going to be MOST effective... and then train it that way. Example- I took 1600 moves of Kenpo- and narrowed it to 35- and all WILL work on the street VERY WELL... and it is extremely effective. (and kenpo was developed as a STREET art-- but street when things were different than now!!)..

  • @scottcatchot1598
    @scottcatchot1598 8 месяцев назад

    love your stuff, studied Aikido for awhile making Ikkyu before the school abruptly folded. was lineage of Luc Leoni who studied under Tissier. Anyway , using you guys to add to my training.

  • @corporaterobotslave400
    @corporaterobotslave400 Год назад

    I enjoy offending traditionalists by combining techniques from a variety of arts I've learned from. It becomes unique, and therefore, surprising.

  • @ezekielgarza1150
    @ezekielgarza1150 Год назад

    Take your aikido training to next level. To a gym that doesnt do aikido. Shorten your moves. I learned this at the beginning. I learned a few moves then took out side the dojo and found out real quick what is demo and what works. Quick/short powerful moves works

  • @Scorch1028
    @Scorch1028 2 года назад

    Aikido is "great" for defending yourself from someone who comes at you with a "telegraphed Aikido attack". 😆🤣😂

  • @richardlukesh5807
    @richardlukesh5807 Год назад

    To paraphrase O-Sensei, for the student it is 90% technique & 10% intuition, for the master it is 10% technique & 90% intuition.

  • @denismugerin
    @denismugerin Год назад

    Always lots to learn from your videos, about following the learnings of a dojo then at some point, adding some personal twists to it when i feel comfortable enough to do it. Thank you from Paris !

  • @richardsager1723
    @richardsager1723 Год назад

    Be the best you can be, be in the moment and be confident and courageous…
    Be at peace with yourself and God!
    You are to be grateful and humble with Love…

  • @kurtsteiner8384
    @kurtsteiner8384 Год назад

    Have never done akido. But have done traditional jujitsu nimpobuguei and bjj.
    I know what you mean however in nimpo it was unarmed combat as uesed by japaneese ninja or shinobi and samuraui in ido perion in japan. Very interesting in patterns useage.

  • @lml7763
    @lml7763 Год назад

    Very good lesson.... I would like to cut it very-very short.... when you first leant how to sit.... how did it look like.... how did it feel like... now.... today... look at the way you sit.... 😃😃😃

  • @Jazzman-bj9fq
    @Jazzman-bj9fq 2 года назад +2

    I've never trained in aikido but I think there are many similarities to the principles of body mechanics and generating power and advantage of position. What I've found in the few arts I've trained in is that it is very crucial to an individual's development to once in a while step outside of your normal dojo or training group, seek out other training groups or dojos so you get just a different taste to what you're pursuing. Another reason why there are certain things you will learn in your dojo and things you will not is that obviously if your instructor and senior students have never seen a certain technique then they can't possibly show you that. Each martial artist interprets techniques differently whether they know that or not and sometimes you can be explained the same technique by a different instructor and you then 'get it' whereas before you weren't understanding that technique to its full advantage. I agree, one does need to learn the techniques with as much precision as they can, to understand the mechanics of generating the power but in the actual practice of it (once you've gone through the 10,000 hypothetical repetitions) you can shortcut the path significantly, generate more speed which then becomes more power, use your own body advantages and you'll find 'your way' of that same technique.

  • @terryturner1689
    @terryturner1689 2 года назад

    So correct, how your body works, is how you have to execute the technique. We are not all the same, and must adapt to suit your body.

  • @Gking1971
    @Gking1971 Год назад

    This is apparent with kotegeishi . Most dojo do this in an unsafe way, inviting a hook to the head. Yet if you look at the origin of the technique you will see that Tori keeps uke in front of him and sends him away.

  • @tarrantcountykid
    @tarrantcountykid Год назад

    There’s a lot of low self esteem jerks in the world it’s best they don’t learn certain techniques because they will use them unnecessarily against innocent people

  • @1ばかぶた
    @1ばかぶた Год назад

    I think, it is because in the dojo where you learn it, their level of study isnt that high. in japan, this fast movement is also be taught. even better, they also teach on how to receive it safely

  • @juanpabloreyvanegas5381
    @juanpabloreyvanegas5381 Год назад

    Shorter spiral or small circular trayectories are closer to aiki jujitsu, and atemi. Are ideal for some self defense scenarios, nice video thanks

  • @claredin
    @claredin 5 месяцев назад

    Every critic of Aikido should see this video.

  • @josephmalone253
    @josephmalone253 Год назад

    I favor doing ura over omote too but to be fair omote is when someone grabs your wrist to disarm you and you enter to the front to break their arm then tenkan to do the throw upon which you stab them with the knife you are still retaining. Honestly this makes omote more street if you will.

  • @maceyrickard6836
    @maceyrickard6836 2 года назад

    I think it is difficult in translation I understand alot of the traditional stuff but we need to step it up it is not applied quick enough there are things like futaradori I can't find a use for good video

  • @anthonycoviello6596
    @anthonycoviello6596 2 года назад

    He talks that explains way too much he doesn’t get to the point of action as in the teaching of aikido he’s boring

  • @righteousshadowsdojopt.3979
    @righteousshadowsdojopt.3979 2 года назад

    Love this channel.
    Could y'all show some meals?

  • @emsantiago
    @emsantiago 2 года назад +1

    As long as the Dojo Cho is the one responsible for paying the rent, he can teach whatever he wants however he wants.

  • @gmork1090
    @gmork1090 Год назад

    As Bruce said. You must not let the classical mess stifle you.

  • @righteousshadowsdojopt.3979
    @righteousshadowsdojopt.3979 2 года назад

    I wonder if any ufc fighters use aikido.

  • @anthonycoviello6596
    @anthonycoviello6596 2 года назад

    Words are interpretive in different ways he needs to show more on video

  • @oldnatty61
    @oldnatty61 2 года назад +1

    It's all about the trainees goal. There are 2 paths/goals in martial studies: 1) to learn one or more martial arts, 2) to learn how to fight. Caveat Emptor. Trainee know your goal. If it's to 'fight' you aint leaning it from something w/ 'art' attached to it.

    • @scottzappa9314
      @scottzappa9314 2 года назад

      There's more than 2 goals at work here.

  • @Antraeus
    @Antraeus 2 года назад

    Go with the flow. IF you can!

  • @stevevoyles3816
    @stevevoyles3816 2 года назад

    I did not see any moves on this vid but one...

  • @jarinorvanto4301
    @jarinorvanto4301 2 года назад

    You wanna fight? Fight... him!

  • @JamesMossAikido
    @JamesMossAikido Год назад

    We call that "One minded Uke"

  • @gigo2252
    @gigo2252 Год назад

    Couldnt agree more:-)

  • @jlguidry2
    @jlguidry2 2 года назад +1

    Love you guys!!

  • @jamalovichjamaleddin4222
    @jamalovichjamaleddin4222 2 года назад

    High greetings everyone🙌

  • @austinchoi9802
    @austinchoi9802 2 года назад

    That is why Bruce Lee was so popular. He fought intuitively and out of the moment by using all different techniques that worked for him. He also improvised. You shouldn't get caught up in certain techniques.

  • @reden375
    @reden375 Год назад

    Nice video and good points. Techniques have to be practiced to the point of reflex so it is no longer a" technique "per se but rather it becomes an inherent part of your wiring. The second point that is right on the money is that everything one does has to be compressed and shortened as much as possible with no extraneous movements. I might add that one should include blindfolded training as this amps up your tactile sense and orientation skills to a higher level. Dojo practice and "street" practice are two different worlds. The stress of a street confrontation is the great leveller both mentally and physically , therefore in my view whatever method is practiced it should approximate as much as possible the conditions of a real confrontation i.e. overcoming a fully resisting opponent (s). Cheers!

  • @MtnBadger
    @MtnBadger 2 года назад

    When I was taking/teaching in a Norris school in the 70s/80s, the first 3/4ths of the class was the traditional, disciplined routines and the last bit was an interactive "sparing" session where we learned to put the things together in flowing, useful (and weeding out of the useless) techniques and one night a week we had a full class of sparing and learning effective, street and tournament style fighting. Every true "fighting" school, which we were (not just a "Tāk Mī Dō" (take my dough) McDojo. Some just wanted traditional lessons, some wanted street applicable practice time and some actual tournament fighting, at which we were very successful.

  • @leciareeve8089
    @leciareeve8089 Год назад

    ❤️❤️❤️ you guys!

  • @anthonycoviello6596
    @anthonycoviello6596 2 года назад

    And talk less

  • @fredazcarate4818
    @fredazcarate4818 Год назад

    🧐🤔💯👌👊👍🙏

  • @cynthia7242
    @cynthia7242 10 месяцев назад

    Jk

  • @scottzappa9314
    @scottzappa9314 2 года назад

    Thank you for saying you must master the basics, because that's what a black belt is, they've mastered the basics. Without them you pretty much have nothing. But after that you're also correct, you have to make the style(s) work for you, not the other way around. Everybody's different and must be on their own path, which will not be the same as his path, or her path...

  • @kurtsteiner8384
    @kurtsteiner8384 2 года назад

    Not seen you for ages hope all is well with you.
    I have never done akido, but have done japaneese traditional jujitsu, nimpo and ninjutsu, sometimes with weopns like samuraui swords and knives and sticks like handbo, bostaves etc

  • @mieralunarlunishion
    @mieralunarlunishion 2 года назад

    Two other possible reasons certain things aren't taught in the dojo is because the sensei or instructor a) doesn't know the technique, or b) doesn't feel confident in teaching it because they don't properly master it (yet). ;)
    I know that I for one feel very uncomfortoble teaching something I do not know thoroughly. :)

  • @waynemuller1589
    @waynemuller1589 Год назад

    Thank you so much all at Aikidoflow, been following you for a few years now after initial training at a Dojo. Passing all your teachings now to my grandchildren who are coming into that age where they are hitting the towns etc. Thank you so much again. If they don't know...they soon will.

  • @betsyross2.065
    @betsyross2.065 2 года назад

    Don't discontinue the light blue T-shirt,until I get payed....

  • @alphonsofrett2757
    @alphonsofrett2757 2 года назад

    When I walk in the street I carry a 42inch long combat cane because I can't carry a bokken thanks again for sharing your hard work and excellent studies

  • @thomasreilly4345
    @thomasreilly4345 2 года назад

    Your advice applies to anything you want to accomplish in life. Regardless of the endeavor.

  • @TracyHall_DreamsAndLogic
    @TracyHall_DreamsAndLogic 2 года назад

    tenkan (wide circles, often flowing *with* attack) vs irimi (tight, close circles entering *into* or *thru* attacker)

  • @luongorob8409
    @luongorob8409 2 года назад

    Shihonage very practical in a lot of circumstances . Very sneaky

  • @seagullpoet
    @seagullpoet 2 года назад

    You have to be comfortable in protecting yourself.

  • @austinchoi9802
    @austinchoi9802 2 года назад

    It's also good to test your skills to see if the techniques you learned are real.

  • @nickyalousakis3851
    @nickyalousakis3851 2 года назад

    just discovered this channel. really really loving it.

  • @MJ-nb1qn
    @MJ-nb1qn 2 года назад

    Many paths to the Temple.
    You guys are great. Thanks

  • @getoffmyneck
    @getoffmyneck Год назад

    i agree with everyone about the strictness. it's a discipline they want to show you the rules so u can break them. anyway, nice vid but you guys repeated yourself for 7 minutes before showcasing. perhaps you can make your point once and get to the example.

  • @coledreacts2638
    @coledreacts2638 2 года назад

    Hey guys I made a reaction video to one of your self defense vids! Love the content. However it got a strike and now I have multiple violations. It’d mean a lot if you guys removed the strike. I’ll instantly delete the video. I didn’t know… please help me out. I’ve dedicated a lot of time to my channel

  • @christopherlee1827
    @christopherlee1827 2 года назад

    Far, FAR superior to Dark Season.

  • @shengchenfan
    @shengchenfan 2 года назад

    Yes!! Totally Agree!

  • @markhudson3354
    @markhudson3354 2 года назад

    But I like your stuff well done 👍🏻

  • @user-tf8mb6cp5w
    @user-tf8mb6cp5w 2 года назад

    So well said. Bravo!

  • @dirtyharry5957
    @dirtyharry5957 2 года назад

    Love your channel.

  • @emilioaymat5651
    @emilioaymat5651 2 года назад +1

    As someone thats been homeless and on the streets b4, I can authoritavely state that most martial arts and CIA/Marines programs don`t work in street attacks because those attacks can`t be predicted and the only thing that will stop all street attackers is a gun so stay active in opposing gun control. In street attacks, one must coordinate your moves/blocks according to that particular and unique situation.

    • @dancooper6447
      @dancooper6447 2 года назад

      Authoritatively? Based on what experience?

  • @mycatsballs8195
    @mycatsballs8195 2 года назад

    Yea aikido doesn’t work unless your fighting a drunk who doesn’t know how to fight