I’m starting to wonder if the Jesus most Christian’s believe in today is pages of the Bible rather than Jesus Christ himself. Because they so stubbornly don’t won’t to hear God himself.
The word becam flesh which was Jesus cant remember the exact verse. Here Genisis 1 and John 1. Those two explain the word and what we should be listening to.
@@Artem_Myronko He's not God the Father... He calls out to his father... He says the father is greater than he.... Jesus said only the father knows when he will return.... None of that makes sense if the Trinity were true.... It only makes sense if you don't make up words like the Trinity and use words like the Bible uses... Godhead
I never hear people who claim to be Christian (evangelical or other) talk about Jesus to the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints they way we believe He is. I’m starting to think none of them understand the beliefs they argue against. Also I never hear the basics explained that well, though it is beautiful and wonderful concepts from the Bible.
Satan tries very hard to twist and confuse people to dilute truth and splatter some mud on truth Especially on true Church of Jesus Christ , There is always only one Jesus forever and ever
@@juuuk98 is Lucifer a thing? No he is nothing! No I’m kidding I know what your saying. And yes we believe Jesus did create all things both in heaven and earth. But we also understand it was under the direction of His Father. In genesis, when God is talking about Adam and Eve, after they have fallen, he says they have become like one of us. Who is the us? Genesis 3:22
But also the aspects thing is a good observation. Because we do believe in the same Jesus just some eat only vegitables and others everything but both God aknowledges thats pointing out a case of faith cause anything done outside of it is sin. Cane and Abel for example though Cane was wrong for vegitable sacrafice it was really he knew better. If the roles were reversed Cane would have fallen short still and been jealous of Abel and killed him anyways either way. Its a matter of faith. Rem Meshak and abednego if i got it right. They all ate vegitables to get strong out of faith therfore the reward was so not from vegitables but there faith in God. If it were meat they had to eat then they would have stould for a carnivor diet. God rewards faith and spirituality not the comformation of the world or the love of it.
I would disagree for this one reason. The trinity. Mormons do NOT believe in the trinity. The Godhead. As they call it, is very drastically different from the trinity. Believing where He went when He died or believing in something He might have done is very different than believing who He is. Calvinists Methodist ect all believe in the trinity. They just have different opinions in what He may or may not have done. Mormons believe He has a body, He is created by God the Father ect ect ect….
@StewartFletcher sound doctrine. Not disagree about things that's arnt even in the bible. A few big things... Jesus IS God in the flesh. Jesus was NOT created, he's eternal. Lucifer and Jesus are NOT brothers.
@@StewartFletcher it doesn't say God the father. God the Father is God the Father. Jesus is God the son. And the Holy Spirit or "helper" is God the spirit.
@@JJustifiedthe argument that we believe they are brothers is a misunderstanding of our doctrine. We believe just as the Bible that Lucifer was the son of the morning and one of Gods angels ( children ). We also believe that he was cast out of heaven . We believe that at that moment , you can no longer call Lucifer Jesus’s brother just as you can no longer call Lucifer one of Gods angels. Lucifer is now satan So drop the ignorance it’s a rude claim by the anti-Mormons to make us look like some kind of devil worshippers! No, where in the Bible does it say that God the father is Jesus Christ the son it only says that they are one. And of course we understand that differently because we have more knowledge given in our faith.
But also the aspects thing is a good observation. Because we do believe in the same Jesus just some eat only vegitables and others everything but both God aknowledges thats pointing out a case of faith cause anything done outside of it is sin. Cane and Abel for example though Cane was wrong for vegitable sacrafice it was really he knew better. If the roles were reversed Cane would have fallen short still and been jealous of Abel and killed him anyways either way. Its a matter of faith. Rem Meshak and abednego if i got it right. They all ate vegitables to get strong out of faith therfore the reward was so not from vegitables but there faith in God. If it were meat they had to eat then they would have stould for a carnivor diet. God rewards faith and spirituality not the comformation of the world or the love of it.
My Jesus is better than your Jesus. If there even was a Jesus, there is no good reason to believe he was divine or performed miricles, or rose from the dead.
She is so wrong even in her explanation of the different types of Christianity. She’s wrong. There would be and will only be one. Jesus and his words describe clearly how you should view him.
Jesus is the God and creator of all things. You listed different things people believe that Jesus did. Your Jesus is fundamentally different in his nature and character. Most Christian denominations are in unity around who Jesus is. The LDS church diverts radically from the biblical and historical truth about who Jesus is. The idea of a “different Jesus” is biblical (2 Cor 11).
Just believe what the Bible says. Stop making ur own versions. He is the son of God aka God in the flesh. He died for our sins and anybody who believes and confesses he is Lord and savior shall be saved and have eternal life.
@@danthemann7The trinitarian view of God (3 persons 1 being) is not found in the Bible. No verse describes God as 3 persons 1 being in the Old or New Testament, if God was like that then wouldn't you think it would have been explicitly mentioned? It doesn't say that and no honest reading of the Bible would lead you to conclude that God is 3 persons 1 being and every Biblical scholar of all denominations agrees that it doesn’t. The Bible claims Jesus Christ is Lord (Romans 10:9, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Philippians 2:11) and the Son of God (Matthew 3:17, Matthew 17:5, John 10:36, John 20:31, Acts 9:20), He is our mediator with God (1 Timothy 2:5), He said that God the Father is greater (John 14:28) and that God was his God (John 20:17), He wanted us to be one with Him and God as they are with each other (John 17:21-23). Paul very clearly tells us that to us there is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 8:6, 1 Timothy 2:5). No where in the Bible does it describe God and Jesus Christ like how you all do and there is no verse in the bible to back up your pagan belief and to explain it you have to use sources that came centuries later. It’s not in the Bible, at no point did Jews believe in some 3 person 1 being “god” and isn’t something taught and/or defined by Christians for centuries.
I’m starting to wonder if the Jesus most Christian’s believe in today is pages of the Bible rather than Jesus Christ himself. Because they so stubbornly don’t won’t to hear God himself.
The word becam flesh which was Jesus cant remember the exact verse. Here Genisis 1 and John 1. Those two explain the word and what we should be listening to.
They're more trinitarians than Christians these days... Trinity is their religion
@@mikelwatts3212The word is Jesus Christ... The son of God... The literal son of God not some trinitarian nonsense
And the word was God@@wellsjdan
@@Artem_Myronko He's not God the Father... He calls out to his father... He says the father is greater than he.... Jesus said only the father knows when he will return.... None of that makes sense if the Trinity were true.... It only makes sense if you don't make up words like the Trinity and use words like the Bible uses... Godhead
I never hear people who claim to be Christian (evangelical or other) talk about Jesus to the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints they way we believe He is. I’m starting to think none of them understand the beliefs they argue against. Also I never hear the basics explained that well, though it is beautiful and wonderful concepts from the Bible.
Satan tries very hard to twist and confuse people to dilute truth and splatter some mud on truth
Especially on true Church of Jesus Christ , There is always only one Jesus forever and ever
That’s correct!!
Jesus created all things which includes lucifer. So they are not brother
I don’t know what is worse calling them brothers or saying He created Lucifer.
@@G-mom-A Hes literally God wdym, the Bible literally says he created all things
@@juuuk98 is Lucifer a thing? No he is nothing!
No I’m kidding I know what your saying. And yes we believe Jesus did create all things both in heaven and earth. But we also understand it was under the direction of His Father.
In genesis, when God is talking about Adam and Eve, after they have fallen, he says they have become like one of us. Who is the us?
Genesis 3:22
Heavenly Father created Lucifer, Jesus didn't do that.
Looking at it from a trinitarian standpoint, you got to throw out that non-biblical crap that bleeds your brain of the nature of God
But also the aspects thing is a good observation. Because we do believe in the same Jesus just some eat only vegitables and others everything but both God aknowledges thats pointing out a case of faith cause anything done outside of it is sin. Cane and Abel for example though Cane was wrong for vegitable sacrafice it was really he knew better. If the roles were reversed Cane would have fallen short still and been jealous of Abel and killed him anyways either way. Its a matter of faith. Rem Meshak and abednego if i got it right. They all ate vegitables to get strong out of faith therfore the reward was so not from vegitables but there faith in God. If it were meat they had to eat then they would have stould for a carnivor diet. God rewards faith and spirituality not the comformation of the world or the love of it.
I would disagree for this one reason. The trinity. Mormons do NOT believe in the trinity. The Godhead. As they call it, is very drastically different from the trinity. Believing where He went when He died or believing in something He might have done is very different than believing who He is. Calvinists Methodist ect all believe in the trinity. They just have different opinions in what He may or may not have done. Mormons believe He has a body, He is created by God the Father ect ect ect….
Huh there is only one Christian jesus.
Non of those are what people mean when they say "different Jesus"
What do they mean
@StewartFletcher sound doctrine. Not disagree about things that's arnt even in the bible. A few big things... Jesus IS God in the flesh. Jesus was NOT created, he's eternal. Lucifer and Jesus are NOT brothers.
@@JJustified Where in the Bible does it say Jesus is God the Father in the flesh?
@@StewartFletcher it doesn't say God the father. God the Father is God the Father. Jesus is God the son. And the Holy Spirit or "helper" is God the spirit.
@@JJustifiedthe argument that we believe they are brothers is a misunderstanding of our doctrine. We believe just as the Bible that Lucifer was the son of the morning and one of Gods angels ( children ). We also believe that he was cast out of heaven . We believe that at that moment , you can no longer call Lucifer Jesus’s brother just as you can no longer call Lucifer one of Gods angels. Lucifer is now satan So drop the ignorance it’s a rude claim by the anti-Mormons to make us look like some kind of devil worshippers!
No, where in the Bible does it say that God the father is Jesus Christ the son it only says that they are one. And of course we understand that differently because we have more knowledge given in our faith.
It's all the above except Jesus didn't save them from hell it was sort of like a pergatory cause hell is much worse than where they were rescued from.
But also the aspects thing is a good observation. Because we do believe in the same Jesus just some eat only vegitables and others everything but both God aknowledges thats pointing out a case of faith cause anything done outside of it is sin. Cane and Abel for example though Cane was wrong for vegitable sacrafice it was really he knew better. If the roles were reversed Cane would have fallen short still and been jealous of Abel and killed him anyways either way. Its a matter of faith. Rem Meshak and abednego if i got it right. They all ate vegitables to get strong out of faith therfore the reward was so not from vegitables but there faith in God. If it were meat they had to eat then they would have stould for a carnivor diet. God rewards faith and spirituality not the comformation of the world or the love of it.
My Jesus is better than your Jesus. If there even was a Jesus, there is no good reason to believe he was divine or performed miricles, or rose from the dead.
She is so wrong even in her explanation of the different types of Christianity. She’s wrong. There would be and will only be one. Jesus and his words describe clearly how you should view him.
😂that is not true of Methodists.
And they’re all heretics for a reason
Jesus is the God and creator of all things. You listed different things people believe that Jesus did. Your Jesus is fundamentally different in his nature and character. Most Christian denominations are in unity around who Jesus is. The LDS church diverts radically from the biblical and historical truth about who Jesus is. The idea of a “different Jesus” is biblical (2 Cor 11).
And how is yours different than ours?
@@spideyN8R He is the God and creator of all things, not a separate god or created being.
@@dylanmorrill8320 I don't understand how that is different.
It's their idea of god that desturbs me. Which should be the start of the conversation, not Jesus.
Just believe what the Bible says. Stop making ur own versions. He is the son of God aka God in the flesh. He died for our sins and anybody who believes and confesses he is Lord and savior shall be saved and have eternal life.
Jesus is NOT God in the flesh…
@@vahafalekaono576 then u don’t believe Jesus is God which is denying the basic fundamental of the Bible
@@vahafalekaono576 not believing Jesus is God is a one way ticket to hell
@@danthemann7The trinitarian view of God (3 persons 1 being) is not found in the Bible. No verse describes God as 3 persons 1 being in the Old or New Testament, if God was like that then wouldn't you think it would have been explicitly mentioned? It doesn't say that and no honest reading of the Bible would lead you to conclude that God is 3 persons 1 being and every Biblical scholar of all denominations agrees that it doesn’t. The Bible claims Jesus Christ is Lord (Romans 10:9, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Philippians 2:11) and the Son of God (Matthew 3:17, Matthew 17:5, John 10:36, John 20:31, Acts 9:20), He is our mediator with God (1 Timothy 2:5), He said that God the Father is greater (John 14:28) and that God was his God (John 20:17), He wanted us to be one with Him and God as they are with each other (John 17:21-23). Paul very clearly tells us that to us there is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 8:6, 1 Timothy 2:5). No where in the Bible does it describe God and Jesus Christ like how you all do and there is no verse in the bible to back up your pagan belief and to explain it you have to use sources that came centuries later. It’s not in the Bible, at no point did Jews believe in some 3 person 1 being “god” and isn’t something taught and/or defined by Christians for centuries.
Uh yeah, what you just said is a perfect example of a "different Jesus" than lots of people