Old Steam Powered Machine Shop 76: Rebuilding a steam engine
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Video # 76 from my shop, built to depict a general 1925 "job" machine shop using steam power from a time when municipal electric power was not yet available. Most of the shop runs on steam only, supplied by a 1924 Mundey steam hoist vertical boiler and a 1902 8"x11" steam engine built by Richards Iron Works , WI. Most of the machines and leather belts are well over 100 years old. I am presently rebuilding a Liley 6x6 horizontal steam engine, paying attention to how the individual parts were originally set up and machined. Discussion, stories, questions and comments about steam power, line shaft drives and really old school machine shop work are always welcome here. Thanks for watching.....Dave
There's something about watching your work, celebrating the skills developed in earlier times, not to mention the heart beat rhythm of recipocating steam from an earlier era that is very relaxing!
Boy did you nail that! Are you a poet?
@@artszabo1015 In my old age maybe there is a poet in there somewhere..
I think about this every time. It's extremely relaxing to watch. It's fascinating too.
And the tick tock of the clock too.
This weekend I'm giving thanks for people like Dave Richards who share the knowledge they have with everyone here.
Dave - you're the best, I can't wait for your next one.
Thanks John, we can all use prayer....Dave
@@davidrichards5594 You speak of prayers, is it that bad for you?
Thank you Dave the privilege of watching a man at one with his trade Namaste
Hey old man take care enjoy your winter in Florida . Keep up health and be back !!! Your one of a kind! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😎🍻
Thank you Dave a privilege watching a man at one with his Trade Namaste
My memories of when I was thirteen years old and my first trip to Detroit with my dad. He was working and I would stay in a hotel by myself. After a couple of days he said he would bring me to Henry Ford museum / green field village on his way to work. I walked in and spent the whole day wondering around the whole site. I was in heaven.
About half way though the day I went into a small steam powered machine shopin the village, much like the one you have built. It was amazing. Somehow the ford foundation moved an entire building and machine shop to this location. Over fifty years later and I can still recall the moment I walked into the shop. This shop was so old they even had square shafts on some of the machines.
You are so so right. I've been there twice, 69 and 78. It brands your brain for sure.
Art
David it's always a pleaser to watch when you post a video.
You'r the best, hope you have a Mary Christmas.
This season was too short, way too short.
Bless you and have safe travels and enjoy Florida.
It's a treat seeing this old equipment working , the rhythm is great,
Hi Noel, Florida Flywheelers is coming up in Feb. ...Dave
Thanks for posting Dave. Very enjoyable and informative! Wow you have really lost some weight. Inspires me to work a little harder on my own health. Thanks again!
This is refreshing to see. I have some old motors from the 20s with the battery ignition that are fun to work on, the interesting thing is the simplicity
Always like to watch you in this setting. Brings back memories
Of the first school shop that I was a part of. Miller School of Albermarle
In Virginia. It was a line shaft shop that was built in 1880 to teach young
kids the trade. It was powered by a very large DC motor, belt driven to the
Main center shaft in the ceiling. I only attended in my sophomore year
of high school, but it has stuck with me the rest of my life. Still operate
A job shop in Richmond, Va.
I gotta ask my friend, how old are you? I'm old enough (70) to have run many machines converted from line shafts, in some very inventive ways. But never a line shaft shop. I've skidded logs with a horse though, and I'm not Amish. But I would look like one if I had a straw hat.
Art
It always makes my day when I see that you have put out another video
You do fine work Mr Richards. Keep it up, I really appreciate what you do and how you do it!
I like the way you have all your Drills,MT arbors on the wall shelf!.
Very spiffy set up!
Great video still can’t believe how quiet that big engine is 👍
wow that plainer surface is amazing it looks brand new
I enjoy your videos as much as ever . Enjoy Florida. We will look forward for new videos when you have time. Thanks Phil.
Said this before, will say it again. Watching and listening to the old steam engine and all those old belts driving the machines, just amazing music to the ears. These machines will out last mankind if they're taking care of like yours are Dave. Awesome video as always, superb work as well. Truly enjoy watching your videos. Cheers :)
Don't forget that wonderful old shop clock ticking in the quiet background moments... never forget that sound from my youth in the shop class.
Thanks, I'm glad you are interested in this....Dave
Wow! You have to feed that planer vertically by hand! Very cool. Thanks
It does have a power down feed but doing the keyway took only .250".....Dave
@@davidrichards5594 okay. Thanks David. Always enjoy your videos. Have great winter
Best of luck in Florida Dave.
Thanks Dave, greetings from Australia. I am a degree qualified engineer with a background in production and jobbing machine shops. Now in my late career I have my own machine shop including a G&L 3307 horizontal borer, a 24” Bullard vertical borer & a vintage bridge planer - no identification.
Love your work - good to see your high level finesse.
Keep up the great work, enjoy the “winter recess” as we go into summer.
All the best, Peter
You are either a single man, or have a loving, understanding wife. I got up to a $1000, bid on an old shaper. I wasn't game, ( read, could not justify) going any higher. Missed out on it. Bugger. You, mate, are another bloke that I am Jealous of.
When we moved my Chandler and Price 8 by 12 letterpress it had that type of key holding on the huge flywheel. We never got it off and moved it with flywheel on. That crown turned out perfect you made it look easy.
Thanks Dave! have a good time in Florida.
Wonderful accurate work as usual, that’s a beautiful old lathe.
You use your equipment creatively, very interesting.
Thanks for another interesting video, I always enjoy your videos.😀🇬🇧
Thanks so much for sharing this awesome fun video. Love seeing the machines in action. This is what I learned on.
No "chip" shortage " in the old steam shop I would like to see some of these new CNC machines running in around 100 years,, isn't going to happen, always great to see a video clip from you Dave hope your warm down in Florida by now.
Yeah...but those damned CNC machines will have produced several thousand times the volume of work than the old machines could. Don't get me wrong...I love to see the old machinery especially the planer,😍😍😍😍 but don't diss the modern stuff, they are capable of doing things the old timers could only dream of!
@@davewilliams6172 Several thousand times more? I doubt that. Those old machines could do some serious work in their own right.
There were many more machines used and therefore a lot more people employed with the older machines, it’s not a bad thing
@@davewilliams6172 With all due respect young feller, I need to correct you on that. You are not familiar with the old Acme Gridley six spindle screw machines . They could do 12 separate operations on a single part including threading. They loaded up with six bars of stock each 21 feet long and would run AUTOMATICALLY without any human intervention until they flat ran out of stock. They would run day after day for years and years with little or no maintenance. There were no limit switches or electrical parts whatever. Nor was there any hydraulics. Six tools come in from the side and six from the end including a tapping station. One side position was for cut off, and would automatically open the collet, feed the stock out to a precise length against a wooden stop, then reclose the collet and index the machine and go on to make the next part. As I said, with no human intervention. I ran six of these and a turret lathe and a horizontal tapper simultaneously for years. Rarely did they ever require any attention at all. Everything ran off cams and roller followers. They were used during the Civil War!! I made millions of pipe couplings this way.
I have also worked around CNC machinery professionally (set up man in a large production shop). They are certainly superior machines. But they are NOT faster than a Gridley, or a Warner Swasey turret lathe or a Warner Swasey AB or AC (automatic bar or chucker). I would put the WS #3 up against anything.
There are three areas where a CNC really kicks ass, freakishly consistent accuracy, high speed material removal and finish. Some of those parts look chrome plated right out of the machine. I knew then back in the late 70's that us old guys and our precious machines were heading out the back door.
However, keep in mind before you get to chest thumpin'. The typical CNC machinist today couldn't make a 1/2" bolt to save his life, but a 17 year old kid back in the 1850's could!!! Still feel like braggin?
Art
@@artszabo1015 Just was watching the ford and others machine videos from the early 40's building Flathead engines etc..and YES it is impressive the level of automation going on with no computers. Most people are unaware that Archimedes built a star tracking analog computer 100 years before the Jesus character was born.. Also all the old mechanical drawing robots built over 200 years ago. Automation is not new.. accurate but not when it throws a tool towards your head from glitchy computer crash!!!
Thanks Dave! Have a good trip south!
This is so freaking cool. I hoped to my wife we were going to the central PA. To the 1900 RRMachine shop. All steam powered and fully operational. Sounds awesome to me and torture for her. 😆
Great video. Can't wait for more next season!
Happy Holidays Dave! Always good to see your old steam machine shop in action. Thanks
This is the only presentation that I look out for, I make sure that there will be nothing to interrupt, before watching. Thanks, looking forward to see you again.
Very enjoyable....thanks for sharing
Thanks Dave. Enjoy the southern clime, eat some good seafood, etc. I bailed out 15 years ago and have been living in real tropics full time. I really don't need any more of that cold and wet and dark winter. Make sure you blow out the lines to get all the water out, open the drains on the steam lines, etc.
sounds like you lived in NY....Dave
Nice work
Have a good time in FL. I can’t wait for the next video
Have a great winter David.
Best wishes from the far North.
very good
Thanks Dave, always enjoy watching your videos and learning something too.Enjoy Florida, hope to see more videos soon.
Hi Dave: So interesting to see you work with the old machines. They are as good today as whwn made. Sad to hear you will colse the shop down. Haven't seen much of you this year. Have a safe trip south, take care, stay healthy.
Thanks very much David ,enjoy the sun down in Florida
Great video....again
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I always salivate when I see your equipment in operation 😉👍
Always enjoy your videos
You're one of the most entertaining channels on this platform. Have a great winter
It is a great pleasure to watch some one who knows what they're dong . Stay well.
This is the time of the year I get a little weepy (like a worn seal) as I know it's down to Florida with you and shop kind of gets some cobwebs.
Another enjoyable video! Thanks David, I'm going outside right now and getting busy. We all need the motivation and I thank you for that sir.
Thank you, I enjoy you & your shop. Found you 60 years to late...
Nice one David, another great bit of engineering.
It's about time you got back to work I missed you, good to see you again. I served my apprenticeship in a shop where all of the machines had already been changed to electric motors.
Happy Holidays ,take care and enjoy your Florida trip for the winter.🎅in Finland
Thanks Ralf, good to hear from Finland....Dave
Enjoy your southern winter and a huge thank you for producing these videos for us. Brian from the UK
I love your channel. Lots of great work from a beautiful shop. Looking forward to your next one!
Really enjoy watching the cool old machinery working...
Another great one Dave! Loved the chips flying off the planer.
Hello Dave nice work hope you have a fine winter in Florida best wishes
Dave -I understand your shop is in NY . As a child I had the run of My Dads Machine shop 'The Colt Clamp Co' 37 Center st Batavia NY. Perchance in your shop you have one of our clamps I find them everywhere, The shop was Mostly belt drive with the Old old 5 HP Motors that made that Neat electric whine as the came up to speed. I made many modifications to old car parts for My Numerous Projects in the 60's.. I so wish I had photos to share ! PS-Grandma worked at the Baker Gun Co In Batavia .. Thanks Randy !
Used to race "Speedway" at the Batavia fairgrounds....Dave
@@davidrichards5594 Good for you. I raced at Lancaster !
It is still a pleasure to watch your videos Dave, thanks for sharing.
Have a great winter. Safe traveling!
This workplace is a unicum this should never go away.respect for Mr David to maintain this traesures.I am 73 years old and old scool mecanic so i love this sschaannel very wwell.Thank you david for showing us all this.Greetings from Belgium.
Thanks for your work in the machine shop . Have a great winter
Thank you for your time and skills.
Looks like your having fun with your Planer !
I do, and I have a lot of small things I want to do to it next year.....Dave
Have a great winter David. It's enjoyable to watch your machines running.
Nice work David, I could watch those planer chips come off all day. Love it, enjoy the winter in a warm place.
Enjoyed watching the old machines working again
Thanks Noel from Alabama...Dave
We're gonna miss you and the shop for the winter. If you get a chance do a quick video on how that taper mechanism works as it's pulled across on the lathe, it kinda confused me as to how it could cut a taper as it's pulled. Thanks for another fun video David. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Hi Keith, Sorry, the camera missed that clip. All that happens with a taper attachment is that the cross slide is disconnected from it's feed screw (on this old lathe a bolt is removed holding the nut) allowing it to move freely. The back end of the cross slide is tightened down on a slide that runs along the back of the lathe frame that can be pivoted at a slight angle and has the pointer layed out in inches per foot taper. So the more you angle that slide, the more the cross slide gets dragged in (or out) as the sadle moves along.....Dave
I appreciate the simple explanation of the chipped tool at about 7:40ish. The chatter meant nothing to my untrained ear, but the reground tool at 7:54 makes a big difference. Always the teacher passing along knowledge, the mark of a master craftsman. Thanks.
I acquired the planer to learn about running one and lately I'm thinking that the key is in grinding the right configuration (angles, etc.) into the cutting tool. The first tool worked really well with a lot of rake, but the edge wouldn't hold up for long.....Dave
safe travels Dave
your videos are pretty good for escaping the hectic and crazyness of our daily lives
First time watching your amazing old school work! I sincerely hope that you have a son, daughter or grandchildren that are learning to be a machinist like you, to carry on the tradition after learning all of your tricks of the trade and are also absorbing your knowledge. Fantastic steam driven shop!
Ed, No on all counts, little local interest here. You guys are it......Dave
Where is your shop located. I’m teaching myself to use a wood lathe, but I’m also interested in metal lathe work. Maybe you should consider starting a teaching class on steam power and basic machinist skills. The VA is always looking for new types of classes for vets, especially if it teaches working skills. You should connect with a local Jr/City college. They could help you get certified for teaching and handle most of the paperwork. You would be the instructor and getting paid to do what you love along with passing on your skills to the next generation!
@@rocketman13f51 Hi Ed, There is only one problem with that. This is New York State.....Dave
That shouldn’t be a problem because the VA is in all of the states and probably has numerous offices in New York State based on the number of vets that live in the state. What you need to find is a technical college if there aren’t Junior Colleges in the state. They will probably already have certification from the VA because the vets use their GI bill to go to school and so the school has a tuition paying student.
What part of the state do you live in? I will check it out tomorrow and let you know what I find out. You may have to initially jump through some hoops but the college can help you with that. One point for you is that even thought we are in the 21st Century, there is a lot of steam equipment still being used; coal and gas fired power plants and even nuclear power plants are using steam turbines to generate power. Also there are a lot of cities including New York who use steam for heating and cooling. I would think that steam fitters are probably in demand. So a basic knowledge of steam principles, the safety aspects and the general equipment used is what you could teach. It doesn’t matter if it’s a large or small steam operation, because the principles are the same. Another advantage for you operation is that it would be Hands On Learning and not in classroom getting lectures and watching videos.
@@davidrichards5594 That is very sad to hear Dave. Look after y'self mate.
Very nice. I'm sure whatever you can do from Florida will be appreciated by me and many! Go off topic if you feel like it; whatever seems interesting. It'll work. :-). But in any case, have a nice winter break!
Nice to see you Dave!
Very satisfying to watch. It’s nice to see that old iron running true again.
Always the best and I look forward to the next video. Thanks.
Something interesting. Everything you do in either shop is interesting. Mister Dave thanks again for taking the time to post your videos.
lt's always good to see you working on stuff David.....Have a great warm winter my friend.....Thanks David....!
Travel safe.
Thanks for the vids
The saw at the beginning does cut on the 'pull' stroke. One at the heritage village, electric, cuts on the push stroke. And, Yes! I am sure. :-edit:- ..and yes, this is marvellous to be seeing the old machines, turning over. Jealous as all hell.
I'm so blade you posted a video! I was just thinking of you this morning, wondering and hoping all was well. I still enjoy everything you post and watching you rebuild that pulley is no exception. We'll look forward to the next one!
Thank you, dang I would love to be by your side to help, work, clean all :)
Enjoy your time in Florida and thanks for the video🤗🤗😎
Have the exact racine saw at work ours is powered by an electric motor though
Interesting as always Dave, thanks
I've had the same issues with HSS cutter on cast iron until you get under the chilled and sometimes sand inclusions, sometimes a deeper cut with a slow feed you can get beneath it but a braze on carbide is the better bet. nicely done
My favourite machine channel. Keep up the good work.
My perfect day Dave is machine all day and then watch machining videos for 4-5 hours at night--I have got it bad....Its amazing what extra you can learn from watching other machinists..Keep on keeping on Dave and churning out those videos,the teaching potential is almost limitless....regards E from OZ
Nice work, beautiful clean shop!
Great episode. I'll be doing this soon for my Globe air compressor rebuild. Also, thanks for reminding me I need to make a chuck key holder like your's for my lathe.
Have a good holidays,
AN
Aaron, I've got to admit, I stole that idea from Adam Booth.....Dave
Thanks for putting this up. Always enjoy seeing your work. Be safe down in Florida and look forward to your next video.
Good job. Thanks for posting.
Hell of a cut on the planer
Always great to see a posting from you Dave.
Another great video Dave. Sure brings back memories.
Hi Dave, glad to see another video from you, safe trip to Florida for the winter.
I have a Racine saw just like yours, but not in the best of shape, it doesn't lift on the return stroke. I see you have your planer running nice and smooth, nice job with all the work you had to do on it.
I have a 1920 South Bend lathe 16-24x8 gap bed and bridge, overhead silent chain motordrive, 3 and 4 jaw chucks, collets, center rest, and taper attachment, with quick change feeds, and lots of tooling. This is my winter project to put it back into working operation, I bought it at an auction this summer. I like old engines and machinery, now I have the time to get to the lathe.
Hallo David,
A Bert food video as always
I wish you a very good time and hollydays down south.
Hope to see and hear from you next year.
Greetings from Friesland in the Netherlands
Henk van der Wal
Great stuff
I always enjoy your videos, David, and look forward to the next.