I recently brought my son a little 1.1 Pug 106 after watching your videos on Dumpit and it's a cracking little car, very nippy and very economical which is exactly what my son was looking for so yeah cheers for that 👍
Have a 205 base model myself, sticking a gt engine (tu3s head twinchoke carb and a 1.4 alloy block) into it love watching these tu videos normally makes me feel I am getting more power for my money 🤣
You spoke well at Rustival , for a quiet man! Looking forward to your 24 hour challenge, It's actually in my diary. Not interested in these rolling road tests although it is interesting to see how many horses older cars still have. Love your channel and personality and hopefully I'll make Rustival three and be able to say hello!
It would be nice to see a Metro 1.4 8v on the dyno just to see how it compares to the Saxo furio. I had a 1.4gta in the 90's and it really seemed to punch above its weight for a 75bhp 8v engine. I expect the Gti would have been loads of fun though!
Interesting results. Given how it seems prone to being a tad toasty, I think I would look into getting a heat exchanger installed and a larger radiator. Those restrictor pipes look so frustrating. If I had one, I'd feel compelled to replace it. Probably wrongly, but... yeah.
Poor Hubnut.... Shame i am so far away I would have chucked my 1.2 Purecrap Cactus for a laugh but worried it would detonate its wet belt for its troubles 😂😂
Yeah! I have a xsara vtr with the same engine, good to know it has more power xD. The xsara has a stock oil temperature gauge, when it is above 100º C I feel the car much more sluggish. Especially if I have just been sitting in traffic, the oil goes just above 100º C and joining a roundabout can be scary from the lower acceleration than normal xD
Unlikely. 100C is nothing. I used to do rally service. Cars came back from the stages with oil at 180C. No joke. And no problem either. A HOT engine will start to consume a bit more oil tho. When the oil is hot the engine gas LESS pumping losses. Same for diff and gbox oil.
@@jfv65 yes, in the motorway on a hot day I will get like 130º C, it´s just when sitting in traffic above 110º C that temperature that it gets sluggish
I am a French car fan. Lot of slaters and haters but I am 66 and had a lot of cars. Japanese, british leyland Ford, Vw, audi, vauxhall, Fiat, Renault and PSA. Without doubt my most loyal and favourite driving cars have been French. Flimsy feeling -yes but all have been very reliable and long living. I am a banger driver so cheap and economical are my preferences. If they still made 2cv or renault 4 or 6 would buy one in a heartbeat. My current steed a mk1 berlingo which has a ride like a limo. 1.6 petrol 110 bhp( allegedly😂)
I own a 250.000 mile 106 1.4 sport. I noticed on this video that the Saxo has a different ECU compared to my Peugeot, so there could be a horsepower differential between a Peugeot and the Citroen
Not that it's really related to your French dyno sessions, but i'd like to see how a Mk4/Mk5 1.25 Fiesta would fare after almost 30 years. I daily one and it's a fantastic hatchback, miles ahead of all others at the time.
@@UPnDOWN @UPnDOWN Personally wouldn't mind, but i'm from Portugal and it's a bit of a trip to get there haha But since they're UK made (i think), wouldn't be hard to find one.
I improved this engine to 90 HP by putting de 1.6 90 HP intake from 206, the 1.6 injectors, diesel 106 exhaust (no cat and no middle muffler) and a sport intake (the one like groupe N) I tried agaisnt a stock 106 90 HP, it couldn't keep up with the 1.4
Ive a 306 XS with a 1.6 8v your welcome to test 😆 bassically a VTR engine. Theres 2 types, a black top and a silver top that make 89ps and 98ps respectively
I’m just starting the video…..strangely interesting Maybe because this represents our childhood or 1st car 🤷♂️ So, yea I bet it’s got circa 85bhp These sort of higher end regular hatchbacks, were desirable back in the day…they were a step up in power and in insurance.
Well that proved me wrong Nonetheless still better than book and this is many years later-it should be below factory by now. Nice look in blue facelift Saxo btw.
Interestingly, or perhaps not, my first Saxo was a 1.1 and it was a little screamer. I then later had a 1.4 Westcoast which was similarly quick but didn’t feel earth shatteringly quicker than the 1.1. Is it bore size that’s different or did length?
Question to Kitsch: do the results change if you change tyre pressures? (of the driven wheels ofcourse) In other words, can low tyre pressures result in a lower power resding?
No, don't stop the HubNut digs, it's become an important part of the subculture. Also, catchphrases -- I don't understand how they work, but old farts like me can still crack up if someone aptly introduces into the conversation "You can't get the wood, you know" or "We'll all be murdered in our beds." So, you know, like, don't panic.
Kitch i've noticed they are mostly errrm french, i bet my japaneese Mazda 2 of 2019 vintage with its brilliant skyactive 90bhp engine (sorry biggin it up there, its a brilliant design engine but my god it's gutless) would blow them away (again im joking, it's gutless and has no torque to speak off, maybe thats why im joining the biking comunaty)
Think you need a 106 Quicksilver on there to see if Peugeot were keeping a little extra for themselves!
I recently brought my son a little 1.1 Pug 106 after watching your videos on Dumpit and it's a cracking little car, very nippy and very economical which is exactly what my son was looking for so yeah cheers for that 👍
That is awesome!
My daughter 206 1.1 did 160k be for she sold and I see it’s still on the road on mot history with 190 on
I adore this channel. It’s so…….quirkily British. 😊 The car looks a beauty.
The "dumpit pipe" is now a thing and what's more I noticed it.
I love how the socket and screwdriver magically disappeared at 10:28.. Said to myself, you're gonna lose that 🤣
I thought I heard something Rattle on the way home 😮
I love those videos! They're we'll put together, informative and funny. It takes skills and you are very good at it!
"Lukewarm Liftbacks"? It's been fun to watch the dyno-board get new additions!
I really appreciate how Kitch shows the difference between each engine capacity and engine types.
These videos have really got me motivated to get AX GT 1.4 finished and back on the road, and experience some of that TU Engine goodness.
Have a 205 base model myself, sticking a gt engine (tu3s head twinchoke carb and a 1.4 alloy block) into it love watching these tu videos normally makes me feel I am getting more power for my money 🤣
7:49 😅 i believe you mate....many wont but i believe you.
But it's odd how a creaking door can smell so bad though
The dyno videos are brilliant, always good banter with Hubnut
You are cool and funny and I just love dyno tests! Keep it on please!! 😊
I love this blue colour, I have a 1999 phase 1 saxo ‘west coast’ in the same colour, only it has a vtr engine and disc spec back axle and interior
The fast….and the furio
Great video, thanks very much. Really enjoy watching these and listening to you waxing lyrical. Honestly.
Be interesting to see if there is an appreciable difference without that air intake restrictor...and there you go!!
You spoke well at Rustival , for a quiet man! Looking forward to your 24 hour challenge, It's actually in my diary. Not interested in these rolling road tests although it is interesting to see how many horses older cars still have. Love your channel and personality and hopefully I'll make Rustival three and be able to say hello!
Matt popping up, probably to do some welding for him 🤣
I dig the Crazy Eights T-Shirt you have on!
12:46 ....be careful Kitch the buggers got a Scoobie now....
I was looking for a comment like this
yep hubnut has a scoobie, but will never see if it beats its quoted bhp, coz disapointingly for us its 4wd, still sounds lovely though
4wd and auto...game over 😆
As long as any car beats Hubnut you are happy
It would be nice to see a Metro 1.4 8v on the dyno just to see how it compares to the Saxo furio. I had a 1.4gta in the 90's and it really seemed to punch above its weight for a 75bhp 8v engine. I expect the Gti would have been loads of fun though!
I do like a GTa, I'd happily run one.
In Portugal theres no such thing as a Saxo VTS...its called a Saxo CUP...
The VTR was the 1.4 variant that we see in the video...
I do like these dyno tests!
Interesting results. Given how it seems prone to being a tad toasty, I think I would look into getting a heat exchanger installed and a larger radiator. Those restrictor pipes look so frustrating. If I had one, I'd feel compelled to replace it. Probably wrongly, but... yeah.
This is a Euro 2 car, the Euro 3 cars that were a couple of years newer had the larger radiator as standard, it is an upgrade I've been looking at.
It only missing the 1.5d, Saxo or 106, also tu engine, if makes more hp
The dyno’s maximum torque reading won’t be high enough
@@iainmacrae6982 The TUD5 makes less torque than this 1.4 Saxo.
@@ferrumignis Ever heard of a joke?
@@iainmacrae6982 Yes I have, generally recognisable by their humour....
Poor Hubnut.... Shame i am so far away I would have chucked my 1.2 Purecrap Cactus for a laugh but worried it would detonate its wet belt for its troubles 😂😂
I'll admit I was ready for another dyno surprise. Well explained and with some surprising results. Nice deceptive looking Saxo.
I had a ZX with the same engine, most of the time I ran it without the thermostat as it always ran hot.
Yeah! I have a xsara vtr with the same engine, good to know it has more power xD. The xsara has a stock oil temperature gauge, when it is above 100º C I feel the car much more sluggish. Especially if I have just been sitting in traffic, the oil goes just above 100º C and joining a roundabout can be scary from the lower acceleration than normal xD
Unlikely. 100C is nothing. I used to do rally service. Cars came back from the stages with oil at 180C. No joke. And no problem either.
A HOT engine will start to consume a bit more oil tho.
When the oil is hot the engine gas LESS pumping losses. Same for diff and gbox oil.
@@jfv65 yes, in the motorway on a hot day I will get like 130º C, it´s just when sitting in traffic above 110º C
that temperature that it gets sluggish
probably due to intake temps rising from sitting in traffic
Where abouts are you ? I fancy seeing what i can pull out of my rebuilt saxo 1.4 lump ... 😊
I am a French car fan. Lot of slaters and haters but I am 66 and had a lot of cars. Japanese, british leyland Ford, Vw, audi, vauxhall, Fiat, Renault and PSA. Without doubt my most loyal and favourite driving cars have been French. Flimsy feeling -yes but all have been very reliable and long living. I am a banger driver so cheap and economical are my preferences. If they still made 2cv or renault 4 or 6 would buy one in a heartbeat. My current steed a mk1 berlingo which has a ride like a limo. 1.6 petrol 110 bhp( allegedly😂)
I own a 250.000 mile 106 1.4 sport. I noticed on this video that the Saxo has a different ECU compared to my Peugeot, so there could be a horsepower differential between a Peugeot and the Citroen
Not that it's really related to your French dyno sessions, but i'd like to see how a Mk4/Mk5 1.25 Fiesta would fare after almost 30 years. I daily one and it's a fantastic hatchback, miles ahead of all others at the time.
They are bulletproof I think it would fare pretty well.
I'm game! Bring it down...
@@UPnDOWN @UPnDOWN Personally wouldn't mind, but i'm from Portugal and it's a bit of a trip to get there haha
But since they're UK made (i think), wouldn't be hard to find one.
man it would be nice if u can get ya hands on a citroen c25 turbo or pegeot j5 turbo. keep it up
SlugMan, but good for the years.
Maybe a tepid hatch?
Just wondering are these the generation of cars that they gave free insurance with when new? they'd want to downgrade estimates for that possibly
Yes, both the 106 and Saxo had a 1 or 2 year free insurance incentive.
I improved this engine to 90 HP by putting de 1.6 90 HP intake from 206, the 1.6 injectors, diesel 106 exhaust (no cat and no middle muffler) and a sport intake (the one like groupe N)
I tried agaisnt a stock 106 90 HP, it couldn't keep up with the 1.4
Ive a 306 XS with a 1.6 8v your welcome to test 😆 bassically a VTR engine. Theres 2 types, a black top and a silver top that make 89ps and 98ps respectively
I’m just starting the video…..strangely interesting
Maybe because this represents our childhood or 1st car 🤷♂️
So, yea I bet it’s got circa 85bhp
These sort of higher end regular hatchbacks, were desirable back in the day…they were a step up in power and in insurance.
Well that proved me wrong
Nonetheless still better than book and this is many years later-it should be below factory by now.
Nice look in blue facelift Saxo btw.
Possie Blue!!!
Interestingly, or perhaps not, my first Saxo was a 1.1 and it was a little screamer. I then later had a 1.4 Westcoast which was similarly quick but didn’t feel earth shatteringly quicker than the 1.1. Is it bore size that’s different or did length?
my first car was a 1.4 306, miss that car :(
I have a 307 with the 1.4 ET3 16V VVT and 196 000 miles ......worth a try?
any plllans for future testing a tu5jp4? aka the 16v tu in the 206's. would be intresting to compare it to the vts & gti's tu5j4
Question to Kitsch: do the results change if you change tyre pressures? (of the driven wheels ofcourse)
In other words, can low tyre pressures result in a lower power resding?
Not sure if this dyno can fully compensate for that. Uncompensated; yes, it will.
Please get a mk2 twingo gt 1.2 tce they quote 98bhp but i dont beleive it, if you were close to norwich you could use mine
Mmmmmmm
The BX 14 you've tested on the dyno some weeks ago had the TU or XY?
Ok, it had the TU engine!
Today I learnt that I've been pronouncing 'furio' wrong for at least 20 years haha
Would you like to check my 1.1 smart 5 door should be 75bhp
No, don't stop the HubNut digs, it's become an important part of the subculture. Also, catchphrases -- I don't understand how they work, but old farts like me can still crack up if someone aptly introduces into the conversation "You can't get the wood, you know" or "We'll all be murdered in our beds." So, you know, like, don't panic.
furio..... grrrrrr!!
The BDA on the front didn’t help … at all 😢
If you'd ever like to Dyno a fiat Punto 55s for your board, we would happily oblige.
Ooh, like an early Punto?
Kitch i've noticed they are mostly errrm french, i bet my japaneese Mazda 2 of 2019 vintage with its brilliant skyactive 90bhp engine (sorry biggin it up there, its a brilliant design engine but my god it's gutless) would blow them away (again im joking, it's gutless and has no torque to speak off, maybe thats why im joining the biking comunaty)
Use the revs for god sake! Adopt moped driving style.
Who says you 3500hp !!
so not only does a saxo have less power than a 106 it doesn't have a bonnet strut- related perhaps?🤣
Got to be more than coincidence, huh?! 😂
@@UPnDOWN hmmm Bella doesn't have a bonnet strut- just saying...
sounds very nice , waited someone liked over 69 to like myself ....
Remove the restrictor pipe, i commented before you got there. Do'h.