A serious conversation about Jon Jones

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @Axel-MMA
    @Axel-MMA  7 дней назад +7

    So to the 3 actual fans of Jon Jones out there... why? Why do you like him. Let's have a chat ☕

    • @jimmynass6407
      @jimmynass6407 7 дней назад

      I'm not a fan of Jones, but I know some of them.
      They just follow the mass, they don't Even think of it.
      They will respond with answers than they ear without Even comprehend.

    • @grixiscontrol
      @grixiscontrol 6 дней назад

      JBJ is makes haters cry people are pissed hard and making different videos :D well rounded best fighter real hero :) homelander of mma who also real hero )
      how much month was pregnat lady BTW ?

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +3

      What the actual fuck was that stupid retarded sentence that exited your mouth? Jesus Christ bro stop giving children phones. Learn to speak English and then comment

    • @jimmynass6407
      @jimmynass6407 6 дней назад +3

      @@Axel-MMA His fanbase is just hilarious.
      They can't explain you why they love him.
      It's purely emotionnal.
      Like, they search some hero, savior or paternal figure.
      It's sad but Neither Jones or you Can save them.😄

    • @grixiscontrol
      @grixiscontrol 6 дней назад

      @@jimmynass6407 personal secretary of his ?

  • @allalallthetime
    @allalallthetime 6 дней назад +3

    One of the most vomit-inducing things about Jones is the fake calm way he talks as though he's really relaxed and explaining something to a child, especially when what he's saying is 1. completely disingenuous and 2. obviously incorrect.

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +3

      Exactly. He’s such a sociopathic narcissist it’s actually scary. And the fact that people buy his bullshit is even scarier. Bringing out a kid with cancer to boost his support? He’s actually despicable. And of course hiding behind Jesus anytime he’s criticized. Fuck Jon Jones

  • @90ritesh90
    @90ritesh90 6 дней назад +1

    Jon jones is the man
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    a gay man

  • @jbrax425
    @jbrax425 7 дней назад +3

    I'm one of the guy who disagreed with you. He's a great fighter. He was not protected when first came in. He fought so many legends. Innovative. Beat legends. I think you have to have lived through it. I seen his whole career, Even his regional fights. I remember him switching over to Greg Jackson. He came around at the right time cause I was around for his whole rise. I think you being young, you don't remember early 2000 UFC or PRIDE. You have to have an understanding it was brutal. Jones a bit of that feel. He feels like a PRIDE guy that would soccer kick you are beat your face in for 10 minutes from full guard.
    But as a man, he's imperfect. We all are. In reality I kinda expect a great fighter to be a piece of shit, part of a great in any field is this way. They are selfish and cutthroat. For me, it's believable and I like authenticity. When he was being a squeaky clean fighter guy, I knew it was fake, they made too much about his religion. Many religious people are trash people, it's not about being perfect but trying to be better. Also, he got rich very young. I think most athletes would do the same except most have almost no down time whereas MMA is a lot less structure, no season so you make your own schedule.
    Congrats on the previous video though but don't act like I wasn't owning your ass, you had nothing but insults, I brought solid facts, you had no points in favor of GSP, he has an underwhelming career, no one really can defend him, not just you. We all aren't homophobic in the MMA community. All Jones fans are smart MMA fans. We know he eye pokes, and popped for steroids and won't fight Tom cause it's not worth the risk. We just realize, all fighters do it. Like I said before, O'Malley was ducking fights before he proved anything, Jones just started picking his opponents and in reality, he planned to fight Stipe after the Gane fight so it's not like he was scheduled to fight Tom, he has a fight already scheduled.

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  7 дней назад +8

      Fair enough, I wasn’t alive or old enough to witness Jon Jones in his prime. I can imagine it was probably something like seeing Tony on his 12 fight winning streak, or Topuria right now if he beats Islam and some more FW contenders. But the past does not determine the future. The fact of the matter is Jon Jones is currently now ducking Tom Aspinall, and that’s something that will stain his legacy forever. Another fact is that he robbed Dominick Reyes and lost to him, had an extremely close fight with Thiago Santos, refused to fight a middleweight coming off a loss on short notice, beat a stylistically favorable matchup in Gane, and only moved up once Ngannou left for the PFL.
      As for the owning me part, you didn’t own a damn thing my friend 😂 me and other subscribers were completely wrecking you. But since you’ve proceeded to present your opinions and actual arguments, I’ll now refrain from the insults and actually tell you why GSP is superior to Jones.
      Every negative you can argue against GSP you can also argue for Jones. Robbed a new gen guy that shouldn’t have been close? Check. You think Hendricks won? He did, but so did Reyes. GSP got knocked out by a jobber, but it’s MMA. Shit happens. He instantly rematched the guy that beat him in both instances, and in one it was a legend in Matt Hughes, who he avenged not once, but twice. Jones waited years to rematch his tough fights in Gustafson, and never rematched Reyes.
      I think we can both agree that Jones’s best win is DC correct? DC was older than Jon is now in their second fight, where Jon was still on steroids. For their first fight, he was younger than Jon is now, but not by much. And the age gap between him and Jones is still bigger than the one between Jon and Tom.
      GSP ducked Whittaker and other contenders after winning his second title, yes. And that’s scummy. But imagine if he didn’t just do that, but he ALSO pulled an egregious Michael Bisping (or Jon Jones) and fought an old washed bum for “legacy” and said he’d retire afterwards while Whittaker was right there getting more and more wins and title defenses dominantly over Romero, or whoever else (like Aspinall is doing right now). Imagine GSP stuck around after beating Bisping, and forced Whittaker to defend his interim title while he fought Anderson Silva in a “GOAT vs GOAT” matchup. That’s literally exactly what Jones is doing right now.
      GSP also never tested positive for steroids and was presumably clean his entire career. His “weak” competition that you mentioned was just as strong as Jon beating up “legends” who were really just undersized old middleweights. They have the same careers, GSP just got unluckier a couple times, but he avenged most of those wrongs. Jon didn’t. He never got KOed or subbed, but I think popping 4 times (which is around 4 times more than any other so called goat) evens that out

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  7 дней назад +8

      As for fighters being pieces of shit, come on man. I know we’re all human. I’m far from perfect. And it does give them some humanity in a way, but not like that. When I think of a flawed human/fighter I think of Sean Strickland. Someone trashy who has brash opinions and some questionable takes and who is also a rude asshole and unlikeable to many people. Not someone who beats their wife into a pulp in front of their kids and rams into pregnant women while high. That’s just evil. We all make mistakes, but not mistakes that big and that many times. He’s made several unforgivable mistakes, and he’s done them over and over again. I appreciate your respectful response, but respectfully, once again, your ass just got cooked

    • @jbrax425
      @jbrax425 7 дней назад

      @Axel-MMA I think Reyes had a chance at a rematch if he had beat Jan, but he didn't. No contender gets a rematch after a close lost. Maybe it's happened once or twice but as a contender you have one shot maybe ever, Reyes didn't earn that. Gus either. They both lost unanimously. And I know you think they won but in the interest of keeping the sport good, contenders have to be aggressive cause there's no incentive for champions to go and take risk. If you consider how Jon beat Shogun, opening seconds running across the ring to take it to the champ, PRIDE legend. It was textbook how to take it to a champion.
      As for GSP, he beat a bunch of nobodies. Matt Hughes was 34 when he finally beat him and very one dimensional and that's his BEST won by far. Stipe may be old, but he has half the fights Stipe has but at a heavier weight known to have older competitors and champions. Hughes was hanging on by a thread.
      As well, you guys weren't giving me no work. Those guys had no point. This is the only time anyone put out a GSP defense. They just ran the "uh-uh" defense. Basically using talking points and not actually knowing a defense.
      But as a young fighter, do yourself a favor and watch both legends. Learn from them cause they both did shit that blew or minds from spinning elbows in the clinch from Jones to the crazy combos from superman punches GSP threw. They both innovatived a lot of the common things you see in today's MMA

    • @jbrax425
      @jbrax425 7 дней назад

      @Axel-MMA as you get older, you care less about the entertainers as people. Your heroes will disappoint you. Time and time again. Also, like I said, I want fighters to be believable. The Sage Northcutts of the world, I hope get smoked. Strickland is just kind of an edgelord. In the octagon, he's not the same fighter. Jones, fights like a sociopath. Also he had a Nike deal, only fighter to ever have a shoe, it's a pretty big thing. He's also like the last great fighter at Jackson-Wink. That was like the undisputed best MMA gym at one point. It's like the end of an era.

    • @jimmynass6407
      @jimmynass6407 7 дней назад +1

      He was my favorite fighter.
      Then he begin to PED, then he duck and cherrypick fighters and he begin to try to control thé narratives and now he's more about what People will tell about him than about Real adversity on the cage.
      Seeing that I watch all his career and now i'm seeing than hé was cherrypicking from day 1.
      Little guys, older guys.
      Even now, he will prefer fight some 42 yo fulltime firefighter than a Real powerhouse having HiS BELT.

  • @paulmartinez9833
    @paulmartinez9833 7 дней назад +13

    John Jones is the man

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  7 дней назад +7

      Got any actual reasons?

    • @paulmartinez9833
      @paulmartinez9833 7 дней назад +4

      @@Axel-MMA I live in Albuquerque, Met him Many times always been cool and he's the best at What he does and that's make people cry If you don't believe me, ask Daniel

    • @Nawalta
      @Nawalta 6 дней назад +6

      @@paulmartinez9833Yes of course, it has nothing to do with the fact he comes off as disingenuous, that he hit his wife, that he almost killed a pregnant lady and fled the scene. It has nothing to do with the fact he used PEDs and got caught, and on and on and on.

    • @grixiscontrol
      @grixiscontrol 6 дней назад

      @@Nawalta care about pregnat lady ? how much month she was pregnat? ye exactly you dont care and dont know :)

    • @90ritesh90
      @90ritesh90 6 дней назад +7

      A gay man 😂😂

  • @raspect2974
    @raspect2974 6 дней назад +1

    Jones is the GOAT. Respect what he does in the cage.

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +6

      He's a bum. Fuck him and his fake legacy. What he does in the cage is overrated as hell

  • @ihatevice
    @ihatevice 6 дней назад +9

    I like him because y’all don’t 😂 das my goat now

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +6

      So you're just a casual moron, got it. GSP is the GOAT cry more 🤣🤣🤣

    • @ihatevice
      @ihatevice 6 дней назад +3

      @ that “cry more” is so corny you didn’t even use it right 😂 grown man btw

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +6

      I used everything right, you're just too stupid to understand basic English. And no, YOURE a grown man. I am quite literally just a teenager with a 4-0 amateur MMA record and I'm still smarter than you 🤣🤣🤣 once again: cry more and cope harder domestic abuse sympathizer 🤡

    • @ihatevice
      @ihatevice 6 дней назад +2

      @ ohh you’re a teenager no wonder you’re using lingo from the internet incorrectly 😭 all this over some mma fighter who doesn’t know we exist, u funny asl

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +5

      @ Yeah GTFOH with your dumbass “oh you’re a teenager” bullshit, it’s abundantly obvious from the way I sound and I also called you on it before you said anything. I literally said you couldn’t use that against me because even though I’m undefeated in a speed running CTE sport and still a kid I’m still smarter than you 🤣🤣🤣 though to be fair that’s not hard. A small half smushed rat is smarter than your dumbass
      Idgaf about Jones, him not knowing I exist doesn’t mean shit to me. And he probably does cause he’s an insecure obese weirdo that responds to “”trolls”” (reasonable people) all the time. He doesn’t know YOU exist lil bro, and considering how hard you’re slurping his meat that probably hurts you 🤣🤣🤣
      Go watch the NFL you foken casual. Reyes owns your daddy

  • @tefs17
    @tefs17 6 дней назад +7

    Why are you mad? Lmao

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +6

      No one here is mad but YOU bum ass dumbass clown. STFU and stop commenting you dumb ignorant fool

    • @BoDeetle-gr5xn
      @BoDeetle-gr5xn 6 дней назад +4

      Because he’s gets no female attention, look at his reply 💀 dork energy

    • @tefs17
      @tefs17 6 дней назад

      @@Axel-MMA na you’re mad and don’t know anything about mma

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +1

      @@tefs17 I promise you I know 100000 times more about MMA than you. You really don’t wanna get into this buddy. I break down the prelim fighters whose names you don’t even know. You don’t know shit about MMA compared to me

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +2

      @@BoDeetle-gr5xn Stop projecting your own bullshit onto me clown. Im literally getting engaged in the next year you actual dumbass 🤣🤣🤣

  • @tefs17
    @tefs17 6 дней назад

    Stop making videos in your parents basement 😂😂😂

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +3

      Stop commenting from your moms basement. And tell her I’m not into ugly bitches anymore

  • @Bogota02
    @Bogota02 6 дней назад +3

    bro you got to get over your anger lol. jon is the best fighter ever and thats why hes likable

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +5

      No YOU have to get over your stupidity. He is NOT likeable, you're just a simple minded moron fool

    • @cheese3873
      @cheese3873 6 дней назад

      Because he still has his virginity, the man needs to burn off some of that frustration somewhere

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +2

      @ Are you stupid dumb or just mentally disabled? I’m literally known as being one of the few MMA RUclipsrs that has a whole ass girlfriend. I made a whole “nobody asked bro 💀” video on how I lost my virginity and missed the biggest UFC event of all time because of it. Stop projecting your own insecurities onto me 🤣

    • @Bogota02
      @Bogota02 6 дней назад

      @@Axel-MMAwhat tf you talking about😂. You a hole ass weirdo tf😂

    • @WontBuild
      @WontBuild 6 дней назад

      His kewchie hurts and it shows

  • @IHamDogg
    @IHamDogg 6 дней назад

    Fake GOAT list - Jon Jones, Alex Periera, Khabib.
    Real GOAT list- GSP, Hughes, Fedor,
    P4P All Time GOAT- Mighty Mouse.

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +6

      Okay let’s not go TOO far 💀 Hughes and Fedor definitely are no where near the GOAT list. GSP and Migjty Mouse are though. And no one thinks Khabib or Pereira are the GOAT lmao

  • @tefs17
    @tefs17 6 дней назад

    Jon is the goat goofy clown

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +5

      Your mom's a goofy clown you stupid casual. Get off his meat bum 🤡🤡🤡

    • @tefs17
      @tefs17 6 дней назад

      @ you’re the casual? I’ve been watching the ufc for more than 20 years now

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +2

      @@tefs17 So you’re old and still this stupid? Brother you have no excuses to be riding a man this hard at your advanced age 🤣🤣🤣 anyway I don’t care, I’ve been alive less time than you’ve been watching MMA and I still know a billion times more about it than you do. Sucks to be you 😂

  • @tefs17
    @tefs17 6 дней назад

    It’s not that serious.. lmao

    • @RougeLino
      @RougeLino 6 дней назад +5

      bruh you commented 3 times
      but still not responded to the question.
      why do you like and respect jon jones as a person ?

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +5

      It quite literally IS that serious you dumbass

  • @MORNINGSTAR190
    @MORNINGSTAR190 6 дней назад +1

    Hahaha haters jon jones is embracing the hate

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +5

      HAHAHAHA STFU your idol is a gay clown he isn't embracing jack shit he's just crying himself to sleep every night while idiots like you fool yourselves into believing that POS is the goat. GSP is better cry about it

    • @MORNINGSTAR190
      @MORNINGSTAR190 6 дней назад

      @Axel-MMA hahahahahaha JON JONES IS THE GOAT AND HE KNOWS AND YOU KNOW THE HATERS KNOW IT 🤡. ONLY FIGHT HE LOST WAS REYES

    • @Axel-MMA
      @Axel-MMA  6 дней назад +3

      @@MORNINGSTAR190 Hahahahha at least you acknowledge he lost to Reyes 🤣🤣🤣 looks like Jon Jones fan girls aren’t completely hopeless after all. Tom Aspinall would smash your daddy and add a second loss to his record, cry more 🤡🤡🤡