@@TheGamersRace Yep! And when Elon crashes his phallic symbol on someplace like San Antonio TX or Chicago IL, he won't be the one paying for it, either.
The captain is a seasoned professional. He knew full well the outcome as soon as he got knowledge of the distress call and noted the time of the distress call. His Coast Guard secrecy protocol shifted into code red at that point. I very much am flattered by his nice comments about the Cdn. Coast Guard and by extension the RCN staff involved. Marine disasters have been a reality in the Atlantic Canada region since early Colonial times. I offer my condolences to the innocent victims, and to their friends, family, and loved ones.
*This formalized hearing on the Titan Sub has been incredibly eye-opening. Thank you sincerely to everyone who has contributed to it. I would buy you all a round of coffee and donuts if we were together.* 😃
if those who died along with Rush knew the truth of how Oceangate was operating, i don't think they would've ever gone through with it. Dude had too much money/ego and never got a reality check until the end...
It's PH that I don't get, surely he knew? I think I heard he thought he could help if things went wrong but with an implosion, what could anyone possibly do?
@jackspence6061 tokton keep things secret for his own employees. The guy thought he was God and his will was law. Well at the end he had a meeting with the real God
I’ve been following this case since it happened. It’s brutal. So many failures, from Stockton Rush’s hubris to be an explorer/ maverick. To accounting failures (they needed to operate to keep the business going) and even the ocean gate staff that said and have said nothing about the explosion.
All these good men and women mobilized without question to possibly save lives, for some rich guy's shameful program of idiocy and defiance of basic human safety.
@@whereisyourhumanity7557nah Elon is actually competent. You just don’t like him because he bought the govt agency formerly known as Twitter so they told you he’s bad.
No, we should be wondering what else was happening and what the “rescue” was a cover up for. They and anyone with half a brain k ew they were dead but the whole “oxygen clock” BS was laughable.
@@vladimus9749 you are incorrect as in addition to the insurance there are also co-founder/investors liability as well as the assets of the company that can be liquidated to pay off their debts.
The more I hear, the more I compare Stockton to Victor Vescovo. Both men were very rich, and both had wanted to push the limits of deep sea exploration. But to compare the _Titan_ to the _Limiting Factor_ is a mockery. Vescovo spent months accumulating enough titanium to cast the pressure vessel. Then after it was completed, they shipped it all the way to Russia, which is the only place in the world with the facilities to pressure test it....and in case it wasn't clear, they didn't pressure test a scale model or mockup. They tested the actual pressure vessel to pressures that should vastly exceed the pressures expected at the Challenger Deep. The sub is a marvel of modern engineering and probably the safest DSV ever built. And in the off chance they find a deeper point than the Challenger Deep, _Limiting Factor_ is the only sub in the world that could theoretically try it.
A few years back, I worked as gate security at a spool base here in Norway, where they make these massive pipes for the offshore industry and Deep Energy resupplies regularly and it's just weird that the ship and crew I've seen and met a bunch of times were involved in this rescue/recovery mission.
Crazy to think Oceangate was working at the same marina where I kept my boat, and I never heard anything about their operations until the disaster. I vaguely recall their name on one of the buildings at the boatyard. Thought nothing of it at the time. Probably even saw Rush and some of his employees coming and going during an extended haulout for boat maintenance!
How many people were involved in the searches, risking their lives for this pathetic egotist and his 4 victims? And at what total cost? All because Rush thought he was the smartest engineer on the planet and refused to listen to those who are or be accountable to anyone.
8:44 "And we brought this team [of experts] together, frankly because OceanGate was operating without a plan, and we brought a team together to come up with a plan..." Damn. Just further excoriation of OceanGate's commitment to "safety". 🤨
The frustrating part is that the Coast Guard and OSHA were both aware of illegal operations in US waters for years prior to this incident. They were notified by Lockridge on multiple occasions and chose to ignore it. Now they want to clamp down on the community to prevent this from happening again. If they had done their jobs that company would have been shut down years ago.
They had absolutely no plan whatsoever. They didn't even have the right phone number to call - they initially called the Canadian Coast Guard, though they were in a search area in the jurisdiction of the US Coast Guard.
Stockton Rush was an absolute Savage going all the way down to the Titanic in that little submersible knowing its built with temu goods! Sucks other ppl fell for his bullshit
This entire story sickens me. Stockton Rush was nothing more than a desperate, narcissistic, flim-flam man. His victims were suckers. Worse, dozens of additional lives were risked, and hundreds of millions of dollars were risked in planes and ships and money spent to find people who were already dead. Why can’t it simply be said, “If you do something as stupid and selfish as this, good luck. You’re on your own.
He was born into extreme privilege. A historical family, extremely accomplished father. Went to Ivy League schools. He was an underachiever, wanted to be significant but didn't want to do the work.
I wouldn't mind if they told Rush that, but I'd hate to think they'd tell that 19 year old kid that. I used to work in a hospital that treated prisoners, and you learned not to want to know what they were in for. Yeah, some of them were in for murder--but others were in for an ounce of pot or stealing a TV. You just do your job. This guy might be a TV guy. He might be a 19 year old kid.
The coast still has to search untill it's confirmed nobody survived. You need visual confirmation. The coast guard was following regulations . Even if you know deep that there are no survivors you still have to search by law . You have to search on the off chance there are survivors .
You can’t stop people from living their dreams and going against the “rules” but that egocentric man,the board and all of the crew of Oceangate knew that submersible should never have been used to go to Titanic with civilians aboard. None of the clients were ever told the full truth about the sub to even make an educated decision to board it for a Titanic dive. The process of it building and all the horrible flaws from construction were never known to those people. They were bamboozled into boarding that deep sea death trap. Stockton and his crew can do whatever they want in the name of science and testing a flawed rig. They had no right taking civilians along knowing it would implode from design flaws and material flaws. They should all be charged and have to do some time in jail for their rolls in it from the bottom to the top. The family’s should be compensated monetarily so that all those involved take a hit for allowing this insanity and ensuing actions that will happen. I get the freedom to build and try experimental things, yet it should never be done behind lies and possible innocent victims. We do learn and grow by breaking the rules sometimes but the cost of those tries should never equal calamity or death to bystanders. LoudLove
Sounds like lots of tax dollars well spent on a search for a craft that was already crumpled at the bottom of the sea. If ocean gate is not already bankrupt, they should liquidate whatever remains to go towards funding this rescue mission.
All these resources wasted for something impossible… even if they where just immobilised at the bottom they could never bring them up before the oxygen ran out
I cannot understand why s rush was ALLOWED to create this frankenstinian monster of a creation and then WAS ALLOWED to take out to sea not just once but a few times in the area where their were depts there who were connected to the sea wether coast guards or another dept and they knew he was out there and had seen him taking that crappy monster of a creation out there so what I cannot understand is why they allowed him to carry on doing what he was doing was he never questioned did no one even try investigate him why did no one seriously start to look into what he was doing why was he just allowed to do what he was doing were these depts not able to do any thing to stop him did they have no authority to stop him and why have any of these depts not put some thing in place by now so some one could have stopped s rush so he wasn't able to do what he did
I want to hear what the underwater microphones heard It’s all recorded. It shook the ship almost 2 miles away at time of loss, They knew it from get go but used assets to give false hope
Its capabilities were classified, and the US Navy considered it to be non-definitive. As in, it probably imploded, but they weren't 100% sure, so they decided they should proceed with the rescue attempt anyway. "There were probably dead so there was no point in wasting time searching for them" is an incredibly heartless thing to say.
I think he was surprised that it lasted as long as it did. I think Stockton was willing to trade his life, to have the Titanic as grave marker...a bigger headstone than any of his "famous" forebears have.
It isn't when judged by the happiness of its residents. Many countries eclipse America in that regard and in the end isn't that the most important metric?
@@ml.2770That’s cheating. Other countries don’t have an entire age group acting like professional victims. They have it so good they have the time to pretend they have problems…
As usual, Americans dropped the ball, were incredibly underprepared and had to beg around the world to try to save a disaster of their own regulatory making.
Since chances are good you live in a country whose national defense is basically “we’re friends of the US, don’t pick on us or else”, you might want to check that chip on your shoulder.
@@TakeNoteOfThatnational defense from what? The US military lost to a bunch of sand farmers in Afghanistan over 20 years, Vietnamese rice farmers, and North Korea.
@@whereisyourhumanity7557 How would other nations be able to have stopped Rush from manufacturing his vessel within the United States? I'm very curious what your understanding of laws are and how they relate to each country.
I don't get why they knew it imploded when it did but decided to put on a show made us all think there maybe a chance to save them. But a massive respect to those who go down to oceans I couldn't do it. I think RMS TITANIC SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE NOW RIP TO THE VICTIMS ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG MAN.
They didn't want to just announce it without having any kind of physical evidence other than the acoustic reading. It would not have changed anything as far as the "rescue" efforts were concerned as everyone would have been holding out hope that the acoustic reading was false or perhaps something else. Until they had visual confirmation they were treating it like a search and rescue, just like every maritime accident.
This fine gentleman was an absolute joy to listen to! Articulate, confident and firm in his ability to clearly answer and explain operational procedures! It is SO GREAT to see that a person deserving of that position there instead of what so many other ‘official’ positions are filled based on Diversity and Inclusiveness. 👍🫡 🇨🇦💕🇺🇸
More effort and research went into recovering the deathtrap than went into building it.
And more brains, too.
RIGHT? And who paid for the recovery? Not the people who built it. Not one cent.
@@whereisyourhumanity7557 The American people
@@TheGamersRace Yep! And when Elon crashes his phallic symbol on someplace like San Antonio TX or Chicago IL, he won't be the one paying for it, either.
@@whereisyourhumanity7557we the taxpayers did . Canada and the US. Ocean gate should be made to pay every penny of the search.
The irony of avoiding safety regulations to then be searched for by the same organization you avoided.
It literally beggars belief.
While your company's lawyer blames the CG for the 'slow response', disgusting people.
right?
One could say it was Rushed.
@@GeneralLizations Groan!
The captain is a seasoned professional. He knew full well the outcome as soon as he got knowledge of the distress call and noted the time of the distress call. His Coast Guard secrecy protocol shifted into code red at that point. I very much am flattered by his nice comments about the Cdn. Coast Guard and by extension the RCN staff involved. Marine disasters have been a reality in the Atlantic Canada region since early Colonial times. I offer my condolences to the innocent victims, and to their friends, family, and loved ones.
💯 very nice to see an American publicly speak so well of our coast guard!!
*This formalized hearing on the Titan Sub has been incredibly eye-opening. Thank you sincerely to everyone who has contributed to it. I would buy you all a round of coffee and donuts if we were together.* 😃
Any tea or hot chocolate too? Or just screw the non coffee drinkers.
@@chuckd5819This might be one of the most insane responses to a comment I've ever seen
@@chuckd5819 -- Of course =)
I love my peppermint tea.
WHOOPIE
The drinks would be on me. If it it was on Canadian Vessels that is. Coffee for US,
Every time I’ve heard Ocean Gate refer to their “emergency plan” I think “bro your whole scheme is pretty much that. A plan to have emergencies.”
They had a concept of a plan.
if those who died along with Rush knew the truth of how Oceangate was operating, i don't think they would've ever gone through with it. Dude had too much money/ego and never got a reality check until the end...
No one would have gotten inside that thing if they knew how dangerous it was
It's PH that I don't get, surely he knew? I think I heard he thought he could help if things went wrong but with an implosion, what could anyone possibly do?
@jackspence6061 tokton keep things secret for his own employees. The guy thought he was God and his will was law. Well at the end he had a meeting with the real God
Rush was a grifter
@@Theghostdiaries SR Would Have Taken Titan For A Dive By HimSelf To Provr EveryOne Wrong
Captain Frederick was an impressive witness. I'm happy that USCG has officers like him.
Absolutely, this captain obviously knows how to run a tight ship.
I’ve been following this case since it happened. It’s brutal. So many failures, from Stockton Rush’s hubris to be an explorer/ maverick. To accounting failures (they needed to operate to keep the business going) and even the ocean gate staff that said and have said nothing about the explosion.
I had a gallblader surgery last year and this was the only thing I'd watch during recovery.
What an impressive effort. And yet the people onboard had turned into mist the very moment the failure happened.
All these good men and women mobilized without question to possibly save lives, for some rich guy's shameful program of idiocy and defiance of basic human safety.
It will be the same when Elon crashes one of his projects. The Wealthy never pay to clean up their own mess.
@@whereisyourhumanity7557nah Elon is actually competent. You just don’t like him because he bought the govt agency formerly known as Twitter so they told you he’s bad.
Watching this hearing has made me feel so grateful for our coast guard
Can we now call this OceanGateGate?
😂😂😂
Oceangate should get a bill for all of these resources used for the search/rescue and recovery operations.
Ocean gate is bankrupt. Not sure how much insurance they has but most of that will go to the victims families. The bill will go to taxpayers.
No, we should be wondering what else was happening and what the “rescue” was a cover up for. They and anyone with half a brain k ew they were dead but the whole “oxygen clock” BS was laughable.
@@vladimus9749 you are incorrect as in addition to the insurance there are also co-founder/investors liability as well as the assets of the company that can be liquidated to pay off their debts.
They have no money.
@@loosilu wrong. they have a co-founder, insurance and assets to liquidate to cover their expenses.
The more I hear, the more I compare Stockton to Victor Vescovo. Both men were very rich, and both had wanted to push the limits of deep sea exploration. But to compare the _Titan_ to the _Limiting Factor_ is a mockery.
Vescovo spent months accumulating enough titanium to cast the pressure vessel. Then after it was completed, they shipped it all the way to Russia, which is the only place in the world with the facilities to pressure test it....and in case it wasn't clear, they didn't pressure test a scale model or mockup. They tested the actual pressure vessel to pressures that should vastly exceed the pressures expected at the Challenger Deep. The sub is a marvel of modern engineering and probably the safest DSV ever built.
And in the off chance they find a deeper point than the Challenger Deep, _Limiting Factor_ is the only sub in the world that could theoretically try it.
Such a pleasure to hear him speaking.
Thus guy was a awesome professional 😊
A few years back, I worked as gate security at a spool base here in Norway, where they make these massive pipes for the offshore industry and Deep Energy resupplies regularly and it's just weird that the ship and crew I've seen and met a bunch of times were involved in this rescue/recovery mission.
Crazy to think Oceangate was working at the same marina where I kept my boat, and I never heard anything about their operations until the disaster. I vaguely recall their name on one of the buildings at the boatyard. Thought nothing of it at the time. Probably even saw Rush and some of his employees coming and going during an extended haulout for boat maintenance!
How many people were involved in the searches, risking their lives for this pathetic egotist and his 4 victims? And at what total cost? All because Rush thought he was the smartest engineer on the planet and refused to listen to those who are or be accountable to anyone.
Hundreds and hundreds of millions of
8:44 "And we brought this team [of experts] together, frankly because OceanGate was operating without a plan, and we brought a team together to come up with a plan..."
Damn. Just further excoriation of OceanGate's commitment to "safety". 🤨
The frustrating part is that the Coast Guard and OSHA were both aware of illegal operations in US waters for years prior to this incident. They were notified by Lockridge on multiple occasions and chose to ignore it. Now they want to clamp down on the community to prevent this from happening again. If they had done their jobs that company would have been shut down years ago.
so oceangate did not plan for rescue efforts?
They had absolutely no plan whatsoever. They didn't even have the right phone number to call - they initially called the Canadian Coast Guard, though they were in a search area in the jurisdiction of the US Coast Guard.
Stockton Rush : "Why would we need a rescue plan?"
It would seem not.
Of course not.
Well, you know, at some point, ANY safety is just a waste.
Have they talked to the people who heard the implosion when it happened? Also do they talk to the people who actually found the wreckage?
Stockton Rush was an absolute Savage going all the way down to the Titanic in that little submersible knowing its built with temu goods! Sucks other ppl fell for his bullshit
he was going to be written into history books one way or another.
@sombrero4316 in history he will be remembered as a shark's bowel movement.
@@angrywaiterispitonyourfood9946 they got turned into paste... They got evaporated literally
Rush ''This is not a drill'' ''A what?''
This entire story sickens me. Stockton Rush was nothing more than a desperate, narcissistic, flim-flam man.
His victims were suckers.
Worse, dozens of additional lives were risked, and hundreds of millions of dollars were risked in planes and ships and money spent to find people who were already dead.
Why can’t it simply be said, “If you do something as stupid and selfish as this, good luck. You’re on your own.
He was born into extreme privilege. A historical family, extremely accomplished father. Went to Ivy League schools. He was an underachiever, wanted to be significant but didn't want to do the work.
@@loosilu He was a flim-flam man.
I wouldn't mind if they told Rush that, but I'd hate to think they'd tell that 19 year old kid that. I used to work in a hospital that treated prisoners, and you learned not to want to know what they were in for. Yeah, some of them were in for murder--but others were in for an ounce of pot or stealing a TV. You just do your job. This guy might be a TV guy. He might be a 19 year old kid.
Wow. His voice has the same tone as Tom Hanks.
Rush is guilty of criminal negligence.
Rush farted and it imploded! 😂😂😂 good job rush 😂😂😂
Apparently this guy could do prank calls posing as Tom Hanks, Robert Downy Jr, or Dan Aykroyd 🙄
Dude is a Dan Ackroyd sound alike
On Oceangate safety number you!
All those days of searching is what i want to know why they knew in the first 24 hrs a let people think for a week these men were still alive.
The media is responsible for that. Not the search & rescue operations ppl
The coast still has to search untill it's confirmed nobody survived. You need visual confirmation.
The coast guard was following regulations .
Even if you know deep that there are no survivors you still have to search by law .
You have to search on the off chance there are survivors .
I made Titan Submersible a map on GMOD
You can’t stop people from living their dreams and going against the “rules” but that egocentric man,the board and all of the crew of Oceangate knew that submersible should never have been used to go to Titanic with civilians aboard. None of the clients were ever told the full truth about the sub to even make an educated decision to board it for a Titanic dive. The process of it building and all the horrible flaws from construction were never known to those people. They were bamboozled into boarding that deep sea death trap. Stockton and his crew can do whatever they want in the name of science and testing a flawed rig. They had no right taking civilians along knowing it would implode from design flaws and material flaws. They should all be charged and have to do some time in jail for their rolls in it from the bottom to the top. The family’s should be compensated monetarily so that all those involved take a hit for allowing this insanity and ensuing actions that will happen. I get the freedom to build and try experimental things, yet it should never be done behind lies and possible innocent victims. We do learn and grow by breaking the rules sometimes but the cost of those tries should never equal calamity or death to bystanders. LoudLove
In this day and age a job without a rescue plain the job cannot proceed. Absolute arrogance of the man !!!!!!
So much went into the attempted rescue and recovery.
Rush was a conman.
did he say they were gonna look for air bubbles? they knew they were gone
Did he say that the US Navy had no assets available to help the search? He said that right?
“In that area”
“In that area in a timely manner.”
So, nothing close enough.
They already knew what happened. They heard it.
They're tied up in overseas affairs
Also, coast guard is not navy.
Sounds like lots of tax dollars well spent on a search for a craft that was already crumpled at the bottom of the sea. If ocean gate is not already bankrupt, they should liquidate whatever remains to go towards funding this rescue mission.
All these resources wasted for something impossible… even if they where just immobilised at the bottom they could never bring them up before the oxygen ran out
First guy sounds like RDJ.
Master Chief?
They sent humanities best to fix the mistakes of the agorant and wealthy
I cannot understand why s rush was ALLOWED to create this frankenstinian monster of a creation and then WAS ALLOWED to take out to sea not just once but a few times in the area where their were depts there who were connected to the sea wether coast guards or another dept and they knew he was out there and had seen him taking that crappy monster of a creation out there so what I cannot understand is why they allowed him to carry on doing what he was doing was he never questioned did no one even try investigate him why did no one seriously start to look into what he was doing why was he just allowed to do what he was doing were these depts not able to do any thing to stop him did they have no authority to stop him and why have any of these depts not put some thing in place by now so some one could have stopped s rush so he wasn't able to do what he did
Don't believe this fake story.
Rush and carbon fiber, poehh,
I want to hear what the underwater microphones heard
It’s all recorded.
It shook the ship almost 2 miles away at time of loss,
They knew it from get go but used assets to give false hope
Its capabilities were classified, and the US Navy considered it to be non-definitive. As in, it probably imploded, but they weren't 100% sure, so they decided they should proceed with the rescue attempt anyway. "There were probably dead so there was no point in wasting time searching for them" is an incredibly heartless thing to say.
I want to know what our microphones in the southern Indian ocean heard when MH370 disappeared, if anything...
All this over some idiot risking other lives and costing a fortune if ocea.n
An utter bore, caught up in his paper-pushing jargon, whilst using the word 'professional' so much, that one starts to wonder why.
like a fart at 10.000 psi
hahhahahha
he knew it wasn't gonna surface
I think he was surprised that it lasted as long as it did. I think Stockton was willing to trade his life, to have the Titanic as grave marker...a bigger headstone than any of his "famous" forebears have.
Turn up the audio
You have a volume button.
Glorifying the American this and that Forgot about the French and their ROV.The closest he mentioned was Royal.....
why explain the coast guard response at all? it fucking imploded in 1 second
Because rescue operations cost money. Taxpayer money. It's accountability for the public's sake.
🇺🇸 best country in the world wether yall like it or not!!!!
Because of all the Freedumb!
It isn't when judged by the happiness of its residents. Many countries eclipse America in that regard and in the end isn't that the most important metric?
What's that nonsense got to do with this video?
@@ml.2770That’s cheating. Other countries don’t have an entire age group acting like professional victims. They have it so good they have the time to pretend they have problems…
obvious bot account
Someone please delete me.
As usual, Americans dropped the ball, were incredibly underprepared and had to beg around the world to try to save a disaster of their own regulatory making.
Since chances are good you live in a country whose national defense is basically “we’re friends of the US, don’t pick on us or else”, you might want to check that chip on your shoulder.
@@TakeNoteOfThatnational defense from what? The US military lost to a bunch of sand farmers in Afghanistan over 20 years, Vietnamese rice farmers, and North Korea.
Oh baloney. No one on Earth stopped Stockton Rush from diving his phallic symbol into International Waters.
@@whereisyourhumanity7557 How would other nations be able to have stopped Rush from manufacturing his vessel within the United States? I'm very curious what your understanding of laws are and how they relate to each country.
@@Theballdoing My point is no one had the jurisdiction to stop him. Not the US or any other nation.
I don't trust this fast-talker.
Compared to the words of Stockton Crush?
I don't get why they knew it imploded when it did but decided to put on a show made us all think there maybe a chance to save them. But a massive respect to those who go down to oceans I couldn't do it. I think RMS TITANIC SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE NOW RIP TO THE VICTIMS ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG MAN.
They didn't want to just announce it without having any kind of physical evidence other than the acoustic reading. It would not have changed anything as far as the "rescue" efforts were concerned as everyone would have been holding out hope that the acoustic reading was false or perhaps something else. Until they had visual confirmation they were treating it like a search and rescue, just like every maritime accident.
I've thought the same thing, too. They knew within the hour what had happened. So why all the coy tactics??!!
It all about the laws and responsibilities. Oceangate will get damage claims even thepeople signed papers. They lied all the time about everything
Who says they knew?
No one should have been under any assumption that they might have survived such a thing.
This fine gentleman was an absolute joy to listen to!
Articulate, confident and firm in his ability to clearly answer and explain operational procedures!
It is SO GREAT to see that a person deserving of that position there instead of what so many other ‘official’ positions are filled based on Diversity and Inclusiveness.
👍🫡 🇨🇦💕🇺🇸