it's fun to see you struggle and succeed. I think that the "just jump later" advice was the most solid one to any new player. We need more content like this
Love the content. Caught myself laughing out loud a couple of times because I had the exact same experiences (oh, this damn first ladder & being stuck at random jumps). Keep it up!
Huge progress bro, kz is a skill that takes years to get good at, and there are so many different specific areas within kz, so even gaining the skills to finish this course is impressive. Keep it up!
This video nails why CS:GO movement is important, It's not always about aim and reaction time. Sick flicks and pre-aims are nice to watch, but good movement can win you games. Once again great video!
Banger video. I too have trash movement and I have avoided improving for the longest time. That's it, I'm gonna do what you did and see what happens. Wish me luck! GGWP bro.
Kz and surf can be just as much fun as 5v5 competitive. I just beat my first level 4 kz map today. It took me almost 2 hours but I got there! Congratulations on getting the window jump on mirage, it's a pretty hard skill jump.
Love this video! I started praccing kz when I first started playing cs, about 8 years ago and I can tell you, I do not regret it :D Already great improvement my guy!
I've always been movement brained. Started way back with rocket jumping in TF2 before adding surf to my skillset, so airstrafing is easy peasy to me. That being said, the weird velocity gaining, jumping right on edges, and strafing for distance/speed gain rather than just direction wasn't. KZ is definitely a beast to get into, but it's also very applicable to general gameplay with just the basics.
tip: before you jump look 45 degrees to the side press w and the strafe key depending on your strafe direction, as soon as you jump let go of w and continue strafing, gives you like 15 extra velocity to start of with. you did it on accident sometimes in this vid and it did help
also i heard you say "i'm not gonna be a cracked aimer" you should look up FURIOUSS cs aim routine, or possibly other aim routines. You can become just as cracked as anyone else, just takes dedication, and practice. I have become a way better aimer than i thought i'd ever be from doing some different aim training routines!
Great work. I had almost the same journey with the same struggles. Started from can't finish KZ map because of ladder and ended up with finishing it in 3 mins in 1 week with practicing about 30 mins a day. Very good thing to do. After that I made all CSGO jumps that are was not able to make. Now I can make short jump from window even backwards. Then I went and learned how to bhop and surf. Bhop it's very precision game on most maps with high speed. I made some initial progress but this was not for me overall. But in surf I struggled because of settings. So please not try no surf on vanilla settings as me :)
@@xboxlasagne I learned to always use left click first unless at someones back real quick by enabling knife only on a few 1v1 community servers. 2 left 1 right is the fastest way to kill and I got tired of dying.
dude i remeber running the same KZ course on cs:go hub and getting stuck on that ladder for over a few hours lmao, then I accidently made it, fell off with no checkpoint.
Might sound strange, but I had the same RSI you were talking about and struggled with crouch jumps until I bound crouch to spacebar (I know lol). I figured I don't use space for anything since I put jump on mwup. Little bit of learning to get used to the bind but its much more intuitive for me than ctrl. Hope this helps with your movement journey.
I ended up doing something very similar: my spacebar is bound to jump+crouch and if i jump with mwheel i can press space and it just acts as a normal crouchbind.
as someone who practices movement a lot as well, a crucial piece of advice i can give you is that sometimes you need to strafe a lot less than you think you do. some of these difficult skill jumps on competitive maps like the inferno selfboosts only need 2 or so strafes (half wall, planter jump on a balcony), and its all about your sync and like launders said, timing the jump as late as possible. the inferno b selfboost is still foreign to me because i don't use it much but i find the sweet spot at like 3 or 4 strafes. on top of this id still recommend using space bar to jump for regular skill jumps, and then utilising mousewheel specifically for bhopping. ladder strafes are shitty and id love to give some advice but its hard to convey in text without a visual aid. great video 👍👍👍👍👍
dont look up, it wont make u go further it'll just make you guess when to jump. when u do strafes i recommend only doing 2 to 3 but clean, strafing left to right fast wont make you go faster, clean and precise mouse and keyboard coordination will. try looking down or down enough that youre able to calculate the last second to jump
i dont know about zywoo , but torszi from mouz is pretty insane as well , lets not forget acoR also , but probably ropz and electronic are most skiled ,not sure for electronic now , but ropz was nuts in 1.6 kz
one note - kz is different from vanilla - you can type !mode (or just !vanilla) in a kz server to use pure vanilla strafing. very very very hard to complete even t2 kz maps in vanilla. but even though kz and vanilla are not 1:1, the movement, strafing, and ideas still translate. good job
@@xboxlasagne if you look up smieszneznaczki and see his VNL (vanilla) runs it will provide a much better visual representation lol. but yea the progress is clean
I used to be god awful at kz but i progressed far enough now that i can complete some tier 4 maps and did a tier 5 the other day however my vnl movement still pretty bad
the jump after the ladder is the one i cant get threw, i tried it the whole week but thats my end point. I simply cant take that jump. I air strafe with AD and Mouuse left right, let go of W, crouch and jump as late as i can but i cant hit it hahah
Dude, I know how you feel. I've been playing CS since Beta, and have never been good at movement. Aim, counter-strafing, all of that stuff I'm fine with. I'm decent at B-hopping now but not consistent by any means. I can make the inferno skill jump from balcony but also not the one in B site. I've only made the Window to Cat jump on Mirage once. You're not alone. Good thing is, while movement is great to have in CS it isn't required to be a decent player.
you use scroll jump or space? i just cant get used to the mwheel jump i mess up with flashbang and such xD i respect your dedication. might try it to get better at the game :/
@@xboxlasagne you can choose on some servers to run "vanilla" which means you don't get "prestrafe" and gives you fat less air acceleration. As in, air strafe in vanilla gives fat less speed versus normal kz settings.
inferno jump u need to be as far possible on the edge of the fountain and just 2 strafe it , u need maximum distance because every unit counts toward ur pre which u need to land this stupid jump xD and if u want to get even better in 5v5 , find kz server with GOKZ tag in it , and type !v or !vanilla it will switch u to the 5v5 settings and u can kz and figure out stuff about pre/bhops/cj how they work
Movement is much more then skill jumps. Peeking is movement. Pathing through the map in ways that dont expose you is movement. Getting to positions in timely manner is movement. Not getting caught on corners when in a rush is movement. Not blocking teammates is movement. Don't limit "smovement" to fancy looking skill jumps - its as fundamental as moving your body through the world in a controlled and intentional way!
Oh yeah I want to add on something about your movement that may or may not be useful. You look straight forward a lot when moving around, but it's actually easier and much smoother when jumping around etc. when looking a little bit downwards. If you notice movement of pros or just generally people doing kz, then you will see they look a little bit down and not so much straightforward.
Hell yeah man people might be toxic but don't listen to them if you're happy and proud of yourself that's all that matters keep living and loving what you do
you could have been much faster with ur progress if you would have avoided trying to hit so many straifs in a simple jump. Most of the time less straifs are better bc u can actually hit them.
Got over 1000+ hours in KZ. Saying that it's an easy kz map is wrong. It's easy for someone who've already learned kz'ing. Going on a KZ server, you got Very Easy, Easy, Medium, Hard, Very Hard, Extreme, Death difficulties. With a lot of struggle you can complete a Very Easy map. Easy maps you "might" be able to complete. Mediums are near impossible unless you've learned some of the basics, as it's likely there's either some bhop or LJ sections that requires you to be able to do the basics of strafing, bhopping and prestrafing. The difficulties beyond gets much much worse. A hard map might be easy for a usual KZ'er, but that's because they're already light years ahead of you if you're totally new to even general movements.
No idea what it is but movement in CS:GO feels so clunky and slow compared to other games like Half Life 2 and CS:S. it's like the models are too big for the environment they fit in and airstrafing feels like you're going through pudding. This probably is because of the tickrate, which is by default set to 64. Which makes good movement in CS:GO even more impressive. I tried the kz course just now and also got stuck on the ladder, the jumps before weren't really that hard but felt awkward still. Nice job on the completion though, idk if im gonna try that again lol
interesting stuff. I played a bunch of those games when I was younger but don't really have much of a memory to compare their movement with csgo! the course is a pain in the ass LOL
hi 😍😍 great work mr lasagne
🙏THANK YOU LAUNDERS HUGE FAN HERE 🙏
we still wait for the advanced tutorial lau , dont hide in the shadows
Please Mr laundry I need your advanced movement tutorial bad or else I will never beat smieszneznaczki
it's fun to see you struggle and succeed. I think that the "just jump later" advice was the most solid one to any new player. We need more content like this
thanks so much!
@@ReDMooNTVV what up reddie
Love the content. Caught myself laughing out loud a couple of times because I had the exact same experiences (oh, this damn first ladder & being stuck at random jumps). Keep it up!
haha, glad my experience was familiar to you!
Huge progress bro, kz is a skill that takes years to get good at, and there are so many different specific areas within kz, so even gaining the skills to finish this course is impressive. Keep it up!
thank you!
@@xboxlasagnehow do I play this map
@@3jesus3christ3 too high sens will fuck up your wrists
This video nails why CS:GO movement is important, It's not always about aim and reaction time. Sick flicks and pre-aims are nice to watch, but good movement can win you games. Once again great video!
well said, and thanks!
Banger video. I too have trash movement and I have avoided improving for the longest time. That's it, I'm gonna do what you did and see what happens. Wish me luck! GGWP bro.
good luck rich you got this
These videos are just quality. Can tell you enjoy making them
they are a labor of love for sure
Kz and surf can be just as much fun as 5v5 competitive. I just beat my first level 4 kz map today. It took me almost 2 hours but I got there! Congratulations on getting the window jump on mirage, it's a pretty hard skill jump.
hell yea, thanks for watching
It's a very ez overPRed jump, really hard jumps it's a palace to tetris in bhop, lj short to chair or wood to blocks in window
I'm pretty okay at kz but that ladder bro, that ladder made me rage quit
death to ladders
Ladders are the easiest thing once you understand them
Love this video! I started praccing kz when I first started playing cs, about 8 years ago and I can tell you, I do not regret it :D Already great improvement my guy!
Hell yeah, thanks!
I'm still going through this pain. But it turns out, it's good to learn for all the source games.
lmao super underrated for how much editing and work u put in keep up the good work!
thanks!! these take forever to edit so I'm glad it's coming through!
i went tru the pain of kz too, WHEN I WAS 9
lmao
i'm pretty sure you just jeed to learn the prestrafe now! you're doing great!
Good job man and amazing video make sure to keep your mouse movements smooth when entering vent on Mirage you'll find a lot more consistency
Thanks! I'll try!!!
awesome video, super humble about everything
thanks :)
MAN I NEED PART 2 OF THIS
Cool to see a new player go from 0 to completing that course. Hope you improve more later!
good video sir, very underrated channel!
thank you!!
I've always been movement brained. Started way back with rocket jumping in TF2 before adding surf to my skillset, so airstrafing is easy peasy to me. That being said, the weird velocity gaining, jumping right on edges, and strafing for distance/speed gain rather than just direction wasn't. KZ is definitely a beast to get into, but it's also very applicable to general gameplay with just the basics.
8:06 - 8:11 this is for everything in life.
tip: before you jump look 45 degrees to the side press w and the strafe key depending on your strafe direction, as soon as you jump let go of w and continue strafing, gives you like 15 extra velocity to start of with. you did it on accident sometimes in this vid and it did help
Thank you!! I have become familiar with prestrafing since the publication of this vid
All jumps til the first ladder doesn't need you to use both A and D, just do a wide swing and press the corresponding button
ladder strafes are tricky, wp, cool progress =)
Thank you!
nothing like rsi from kz maps :P
also i heard you say "i'm not gonna be a cracked aimer" you should look up FURIOUSS cs aim routine, or possibly other aim routines. You can become just as cracked as anyone else, just takes dedication, and practice. I have become a way better aimer than i thought i'd ever be from doing some different aim training routines!
Great work. I had almost the same journey with the same struggles. Started from can't finish KZ map because of ladder and ended up with finishing it in 3 mins in 1 week with practicing about 30 mins a day. Very good thing to do. After that I made all CSGO jumps that are was not able to make. Now I can make short jump from window even backwards. Then I went and learned how to bhop and surf. Bhop it's very precision game on most maps with high speed. I made some initial progress but this was not for me overall. But in surf I struggled because of settings. So please not try no surf on vanilla settings as me :)
Seriously loving your videos
I'm glad, thanks!
ideally you want to be left-clicking with the knife to break the vent on mirage since it's range is bigger than right-clicking
i've heard this but for some reason i have the right click in muscle memory despite not even doing it that much. i need to remember for the future!
@@xboxlasagne I learned to always use left click first unless at someones back real quick by enabling knife only on a few 1v1 community servers. 2 left 1 right is the fastest way to kill and I got tired of dying.
dude i remeber running the same KZ course on cs:go hub and getting stuck on that ladder for over a few hours lmao, then I accidently made it, fell off with no checkpoint.
LOL nice
@@xboxlasagne do you have any way of making it consistently?
bro didn't even show him playing the map he just showed the back of his head lol
Might sound strange, but I had the same RSI you were talking about and struggled with crouch jumps until I bound crouch to spacebar (I know lol). I figured I don't use space for anything since I put jump on mwup. Little bit of learning to get used to the bind but its much more intuitive for me than ctrl. Hope this helps with your movement journey.
I ended up doing something very similar: my spacebar is bound to jump+crouch and if i jump with mwheel i can press space and it just acts as a normal crouchbind.
my man run a t4 map the first time he touched kz but great work man
as someone who practices movement a lot as well, a crucial piece of advice i can give you is that sometimes you need to strafe a lot less than you think you do. some of these difficult skill jumps on competitive maps like the inferno selfboosts only need 2 or so strafes (half wall, planter jump on a balcony), and its all about your sync and like launders said, timing the jump as late as possible. the inferno b selfboost is still foreign to me because i don't use it much but i find the sweet spot at like 3 or 4 strafes. on top of this id still recommend using space bar to jump for regular skill jumps, and then utilising mousewheel specifically for bhopping. ladder strafes are shitty and id love to give some advice but its hard to convey in text without a visual aid. great video 👍👍👍👍👍
awesome comment thank you
Loved this video man. Soooo goooood!!!❤❤❤❤
thanks so much!
another banger from the ira glass of counter-strike
what a great compliment wow
feel ya
literally the same problems. cool vid
dont look up, it wont make u go further it'll just make you guess when to jump. when u do strafes i recommend only doing 2 to 3 but clean, strafing left to right fast wont make you go faster, clean and precise mouse and keyboard coordination will. try looking down or down enough that youre able to calculate the last second to jump
i dont know about zywoo , but torszi from mouz is pretty insane as well , lets not forget acoR also , but probably ropz and electronic are most skiled ,not sure for electronic now , but ropz was nuts in 1.6 kz
es3tag also insane he had the pro wr for lionheart back when it released. Fucker 11 strafes constantly when he's running
@@gimli445 wad king
@@HEXZ0R- who is wad
@@gimli445 u are the wad god
quite interesting and entertaining to watch! keep it up!
but watching first jumps i felt physical pain 0_0
haha, thanks for sticking it out!
one note - kz is different from vanilla - you can type !mode (or just !vanilla) in a kz server to use pure vanilla strafing. very very very hard to complete even t2 kz maps in vanilla. but even though kz and vanilla are not 1:1, the movement, strafing, and ideas still translate. good job
thank you! Good tip
@@xboxlasagne if you look up smieszneznaczki and see his VNL (vanilla) runs it will provide a much better visual representation lol. but yea the progress is clean
the ladders will get ya - the more ladders the more pain
dreaming about these mf ladders
Thanks for this. Maybe I'll face my movement issues one day
Yeah that vent is a lot easier if you have toggle crouch on
I used to be god awful at kz but i progressed far enough now that i can complete some tier 4 maps and did a tier 5 the other day however my vnl movement still pretty bad
hell yeah good job
this is a sick video bro!!!
Appreciate it!!
great process so far just keep up the practice
it doesnt matter how hard you suck in something when youre trying to improve , good job man
the jump after the ladder is the one i cant get threw, i tried it the whole week but thats my end point. I simply cant take that jump. I air strafe with AD and Mouuse left right, let go of W, crouch and jump as late as i can but i cant hit it hahah
stare at the ground and jump as late as humanly possible. Good luck!!
Dude, I know how you feel. I've been playing CS since Beta, and have never been good at movement. Aim, counter-strafing, all of that stuff I'm fine with. I'm decent at B-hopping now but not consistent by any means. I can make the inferno skill jump from balcony but also not the one in B site. I've only made the Window to Cat jump on Mirage once. You're not alone. Good thing is, while movement is great to have in CS it isn't required to be a decent player.
you use scroll jump or space? i just cant get used to the mwheel jump i mess up with flashbang and such xD i respect your dedication. might try it to get better at the game :/
I use mousewheel down to jump and then have set a bind so that spacebar is jump + crouch
very well put together peimpppp
I literally haven't shot someone in CS in like 1.5 years because I only KZ. Super super fun mode.
wow you are a real one
i was good at kz untill i broke my right arm in 2 places riding bike then i was shit at it
oh no!!!
great video bro
thank you!
xboxlasagne
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@@xboxlasagne xboxlasagne
@@colinjoyce7420 xboxlasagne
Great vid! 👍 You should try joining some gokz servers and run some maps in vnl
I don’t know what vnl is but I’ll look it up! Thank you!
@@xboxlasagne you can choose on some servers to run "vanilla" which means you don't get "prestrafe" and gives you fat less air acceleration. As in, air strafe in vanilla gives fat less speed versus normal kz settings.
inferno jump u need to be as far possible on the edge of the fountain and just 2 strafe it , u need maximum distance because every unit counts toward ur pre which u need to land this stupid jump xD
and if u want to get even better in 5v5 , find kz server with GOKZ tag in it , and type !v or !vanilla it will switch u to the 5v5 settings and u can kz and figure out stuff about pre/bhops/cj how they work
I can’t do ladder jumps to save my life
Movement is much more then skill jumps.
Peeking is movement. Pathing through the map in ways that dont expose you is movement. Getting to positions in timely manner is movement. Not getting caught on corners when in a rush is movement. Not blocking teammates is movement.
Don't limit "smovement" to fancy looking skill jumps - its as fundamental as moving your body through the world in a controlled and intentional way!
very good points raised thank you!
@@xboxlasagne 😊
Nice vid i respect u for uploading even tho u are not so good
Oh yeah I want to add on something about your movement that may or may not be useful. You look straight forward a lot when moving around, but it's actually easier and much smoother when jumping around etc. when looking a little bit downwards. If you notice movement of pros or just generally people doing kz, then you will see they look a little bit down and not so much straightforward.
i dont do kz the only thing close to it is bhopping i tried the course i got to the ladder jump in 20 fails but i can agree movement is important
Shit man I tried that and still got anything done 😢
F
just watched this
Shit I never realised why my friends movement is so terrible, maybe this video will help them lol
lol good luck
Hell yeah man people might be toxic but don't listen to them if you're happy and proud of yourself that's all that matters keep living and loving what you do
I have same problem with 1st ladder (any tutorial is working) 😇😔
Edit: pls help (somehow)
bro said he knew straifing from valorant 💀
you could have been much faster with ur progress if you would have avoided trying to hit so many straifs in a simple jump. Most of the time less straifs are better bc u can actually hit them.
ive started to learn this the hard way lol
underratet vid
Don't forget the good fan-mail, like your videos are enjoyable :)
Oh for sure, I've been very heartened by the positive response to these. Thanks for the support : )
bro practiced for 0.001% of what any kz,surf,rocketj has for less than a week and said he practiced till it hurt
yeah it’s called being in my 30s
man pulled his back b-hopping💀@@xboxlasagne
Got over 1000+ hours in KZ. Saying that it's an easy kz map is wrong. It's easy for someone who've already learned kz'ing.
Going on a KZ server, you got Very Easy, Easy, Medium, Hard, Very Hard, Extreme, Death difficulties.
With a lot of struggle you can complete a Very Easy map. Easy maps you "might" be able to complete. Mediums are near impossible unless you've learned some of the basics, as it's likely there's either some bhop or LJ sections that requires you to be able to do the basics of strafing, bhopping and prestrafing. The difficulties beyond gets much much worse. A hard map might be easy for a usual KZ'er, but that's because they're already light years ahead of you if you're totally new to even general movements.
No idea what it is but movement in CS:GO feels so clunky and slow compared to other games like Half Life 2 and CS:S. it's like the models are too big for the environment they fit in and airstrafing feels like you're going through pudding. This probably is because of the tickrate, which is by default set to 64. Which makes good movement in CS:GO even more impressive. I tried the kz course just now and also got stuck on the ladder, the jumps before weren't really that hard but felt awkward still.
Nice job on the completion though, idk if im gonna try that again lol
interesting stuff. I played a bunch of those games when I was younger but don't really have much of a memory to compare their movement with csgo! the course is a pain in the ass LOL
Navaja is the problem bro trust me
lolol i still have that knife but it's taking a well deserved rest in my inventory : )
how do i play kz?
check the steam link in the video description
@@xboxlasagne bro thank you so much
Check out your local community servers too. Just search "kz"
Aim has very little to do with reflexes and reaction time. It is just as learnable as movement.
I did it in 8 minutes man...
Good job
watch authors movement
I hate kz
(i play it every day)
I’ve taken some time off but I need to get back into it!
you are strafing too wide try strafing lil narrow
u gotta learn how strafe
This video is about nothing. It's about wasting your time and give him views.
so bad omegalul