There is no such thing as an accidental shooting. All shootings result from not following one of the four basic rules of gun safety, but police can't count that high!
Its only negligence when we do it, cops get to make all the excuses in the world all while telling us they're held to a higher standard than the rest of us. GTFOH with that BS.
It is accidental, but she had no right to remove the gun. This is worse because it shows she did not follow the law. Everybody hates Law Enforcement, so she is done.
So I'm just going to say this if an officer accidentally shoot somebody the officer should be charged with reckless endangerment with a firearm there should be no special treatment.
Not in America. Image how law abiding police will suddenly get if Qualified Immunity was removed. How are they supposed to operate if they have to actual behave like a human being instead of gun toting maniacs?
Well, there is one difference. She supposedly has more training on how to safely handle her own weapon than another that she randomly encounters. I will say that there are some weapons that unless you are trained on, you should not handle. One of the first rules of gun safety is "If you don't know how to safe it, don't touch it". And in this case, she clearly violated that rule.
Cops were the ones who tried to convince everyone that "Glocks just go off in the holster" for at least 10 years before they finally figured out that it will go off if their finger is inside the trigger guard when holstering. The average uniformed cop is not a good gun handler. Ponytail cops are even worse.
@@bobmazzi7435 It's a handgun should no be diffcult to "safe". Do you need to rea manual to safe any revolver or handgun? NO! They all operate pretty much the same. Also in the academy go thru training to show them various handguns or maybe they do not do that anymore nowadays.
@@kfelix2934 BS. You don't know WTF you're talking about. They absolutely don't all operate the same, many have no manual safety at all, & more importantly, the cop probably didn't know how his particular holster worked, so she pulled trigger trying to remove it.
Is it illegal for me to carry a weapon? No. Then why did the officer try and remove it? Hey cops stop taking stuff that doesn't belong to you. Officer safety is a joke. 😊
@@wingatebarraclough3553 "Uvalde" the day america really saw that cops are like....muscle bound 300ld cops wearing 2 inches of body armor-carrying a shield and a machine gun far far less brave than an unarmed mad female parent weighting 90#
Fear and stupidity are NOT justifiable reasons to disarm a legally armed citizen. The officer's fear of the gun and stupidity in not knowing how to properly remove a firearm from a holster led to this situation; good luck in convincing a jury that the victim's constitutional rights were violated because the officer was scared and stuck on stupid. You just can not make this stuff up.
Fascist christian conservative russian-republican jim crow welfare staters love violent jim crow policing and government as long as it is aimed at minorities, migrants, gays, trans, children, women, etc. etc. etc.
This is precisely why it's a bad idea to inform an officer that you are armed when pulled over. Under the law they can choose to disarm you, and then someone whose competence you have no way to know will be handling your firearm. And, despite what a lot of people think, the vast majority of officers do not have much expertise with firearms. They train to the lowest standard required by their state or department with just their duty weapons, and in many cases may have no other experience at all.
ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO SEPARATE A CITIZEN FROM HIS PROPERTY. He didnt fight, didn't make threats, didn't try to flee, wasnt making a ruckus. No reason.
Her legal basis was, " I have a badge". I can do whatever I want and will get a paid vacation when I screw up. Some people shouldn't be allowed to play with guns.
Usually firearms discharge when the trigger is pulled. This person will get a big check from JSO for this criminally negligent officer. Morgan and Morgan loves this.
She had the guy at the car.and unless she handcuffed him....her hand was on HER gun as she fumbled around trying to get the get the gun out of the IWB holster...she was at a bad angle to do that,,and ultimately ended up hitting the trigger.. bang.....It will be interesting to see the bodycam footage...IF that gets published..
DEI cop violated his civil rights by attempting to remove the firearm from his body. Remove qualified immunity in all 50 states! Only then will they think before they act violate our rights, not the city coffers.
I assume that the cop’s victim is suing the police officer and the police department. And I hope that the settlement is 7 figures. That guy should have never been shot!
I have been traffic stopped on 3 occasions while carrying concealed. These were routine stops. Even though not required, I gave my CCW permit to the officer with my drivers license, and they simply asked me for the location of the weapon, and I told them. No request was made for custody of the weapon. Really stupid policy.
That agency is not classifying the incident properly, it is an officer involved negligent shooting, not “accidental”. This is what happens when inexperienced people handle firearms. As a LEO, I have never disarmed a licensed carrier for “officer safety” because guns don’t discharge by themselves. I don’t see LEOs disarming other LEOs they’ve stopped for traffic violations so why disarm a concealed carrier?
Why bother have concealed carry permits and open carry laws if officers still treat you like a criminal and a threat anyway? This officer should be charged with reckless endangerment especially since the victim was compliant and cooperative.
Memo: officers should not shoot (spits with contempt) "civilians" who are legally carrying a firearm. However, continue to believe that everyone and everything in existence is out to harm you while you interact with the public. Officer safety is paramount and as always, the only priority.
I don't know why officers think a blk man have no rights to carry a weapon. They had no right to remove his legal weapon. He had no reason to exit his vehicle. He was license to carry!!!!
Not an accidental shooting. It's a negligent discharge and a statutory crime. Gun rear gun safeties arent a valid excuse since JSO's Glock service weapons, among many others lack them.
100%. But not for the female cop sticking her hands down the man's pants and trying to yank his gun out the trigger wouldn't have been squeezed and shot fired. Female cop went out of her way to create that dangerous situation.
"not sure how the gun was discharged"? It's not rocket science. The officer pulled the trigger. It's pretty sad when you have to send a memo out stating people's Constitution rights and the way their supposed to be applied to people who swear an oath to uphold the Constitution. This officer is a danger to themselves and the public. This officer should be criminally charged and prosecuted.
These people learn almost nothing in the police academy. Almost nothing. Zero hand-to-hand combat. They dont learn about the amendments theyre sworn to uphold. What the hell do they learn in there?
The memo described in the last 10 seconds of the video is basic academy search & seizure. WTF? As a 23 year LEO vet this whole thing is stupid. Negligent officer should be fired and considered not eligible for hire by any Dept. Very sad that taxpayers will have to bear the burden of paying for LE's failure to hire, train and retain quality people.
Not to mention, that officer tugged on the pistol about 2 times before. There is a press release with the victim and his lawyer describing, his take of the situation.
so what was to threat???? LEAVE THE GUN SECURE!!! taht Separation, cop SHOT THE DRIVER. MOST DANGEROUS TIME FOR A HANDGUN IS WHEN IT IS being pulled on. WHY is the cop not being charged? ADW???
As a former state corrections officer, we had only 2 days of gun use, and that was it. No gun safety. Then, when I joined the Tactical Support Unit (SWAT), we would train once a month, but that didn't always mean weapons training. Physical training was done instead. Regular officers were armed and, with little training, took inmates to other prisons around the state on daily, weekly, or monthly transfers. The average time a police officer in the academy spends on weapons training is 71 hours. Less than 2 full weeks. The average police academy is about 5 months. The corrections officer academy I was in was 7 weeks. Fortunately, my federal law enforcement officer father had taught me how to use weapons for self-defense and hunting. Plus, former military. This whole scenario is scary.
If cops weren't such paranoid cowards, they wouldn't need to "separate" people form legally carrying, not would they tell people to keep their hands of their pockets and stand a mile away when filming them.
A self-professed gun expert, such as a LEO, who doesn't know how to remove a pistol from a holster? Sorry, I'm not buying it. They, presumably, receive specific training in how to do just that. Not only that, but, within a few days of this incident, another officer shot a CCW-holder TO DEATH while disarming him for "officer's safety". BTW: If someone intends to do harm to the traffic officer that's just pulled him over for going 5 mph over the posted speed-limit with his legally-carried firearm, would he tell the officer that he had it? When I look at these instances in totality, l have to conclude that some LEOs have declared war on citizens whom chose to exercise their 2A Rights.
We know how the gun was discharged she pulled the trigger. That’s how it fired. She put her finger in the trigger well and she pulled the trigger. That’s how it fired. You’re telling me with Jso. You have to have a college degree and be educated and you can’t even distinguish how the gun went off it was done by her negligence. She put her finger in the trigger. Well, And pulled the trigger.
Good but too late for this innocent guy. And yes PD are scared of their own shadow. They had no reasonable duty to "separate" the guy from his gun. This is overreach by that officer. This also violates his 4th amendment rights, but that's another topic.
Reporters are too complacent at press conferences. Reporters should call ask during the press conference “why was the cop violating this man’s rights?”
Removing the holster? I hope the mouthpiece was mistaken. Removing the sidearm is one thing but removing both simultaneously is ignorance and negligence at its highest level.
"Officers encounter a lot more people with guns..." That is a completely unjustified assumption. Officers are being TOLD that someone has a firearm more often, because they are now legally justified. There is no reason to believe that the actual number of people carrying changed significantly before and after the law went into effect.
but why was he removing his firearm in the first place when is his constitutional right to bare arms? This is what Black people speak of when we talking about there being a set of rules, regulations and laws for Black people and another set of rules, regulations and laws for white people. They'd have never taken that gun if he was white.
giving a woman a gun and badge and power over other humans, is likened to giving a drug dealer a bag of coke while you serve a 10 year prison sentence - what could go wrong ?
I have seen officers tell people to unload their firearms in front of them while they are at the traffic stop. Administrative handling of a firearm should not be done in your car. Especially during a traffic stop. This is a recipe for abject disaster. Just because the person is engaging in their rights doesn't mean they're a criminal or that they should do anything differently than anyone else. Write the citation and hand it to them. It's being said and it's being said all the time that when you're pulled over you're not under arrest. You most certainly are under arrest and the Supreme Court said that in 1961. If you are on the side of the road because a police officer told you to sit on the side of the road and you're not free to go, that is by law and arrest. Your behavior has been arrested. If they choose to detain you further that's a different story. But it doesn't go your free to travel then they detain you, then you're put under arrest. The definition of an arrest is anytime your behavior has been interrupted. You can't change the definition of the word arrest through legalese. The officer in this case had no business telling the person that they're going to remove the firearm from them. That was even stupider than having the the person disarm themselves. Police officers are not known as being anything like a Firearms expert. Believe me I've trained police officers. Their understanding of the mechanics of a firearm is frequently less than nothing! It is becoming completely clear that not only should you not tell the officer your arms, he shouldn't be asking if you're armed. It is none of his business. Write the citation from which you hold them over for unless you see that they have somebody restrained in the back of their car or some other such obvious issue. Write the citation or tell them to be more careful whatever it is you need to tell them and end the arrest.
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It’s not accidental it’s negligence
There is no such thing as an accidental shooting. All shootings result from not following one of the four basic rules of gun safety, but police can't count that high!
Its only negligence when we do it, cops get to make all the excuses in the world all while telling us they're held to a higher standard than the rest of us. GTFOH with that BS.
Thanks, that's exactly what I was going to post.
It is accidental, but she had no right to remove the gun. This is worse because it shows she did not follow the law. Everybody hates Law Enforcement, so she is done.
She'll try to use "Stupidicy" as an excuse.
So I'm just going to say this if an officer accidentally shoot somebody the officer should be charged with reckless endangerment with a firearm there should be no special treatment.
Oh no they would sue and this guy gonna get PAID!
@101Navyseals they should be charged with reckless endangerment with a firearm that end
Agreed!
Amen
Not in America. Image how law abiding police will suddenly get if Qualified Immunity was removed. How are they supposed to operate if they have to actual behave like a human being instead of gun toting maniacs?
If you are a scared person do not be a cop.
They're all scared. It's in their training
They are the 22nd most dangerous job. Not even close to number 1
So LEO's should be exempt from fear? How will that work?
@@recklesstactics4718yall just repeat the same tired lines
@Beautifu.made123 It's not a "tired line" - it's true. Catch up.
How can she be trusted with her own weapon now?
she can't
Well, there is one difference. She supposedly has more training on how to safely handle her own weapon than another that she randomly encounters. I will say that there are some weapons that unless you are trained on, you should not handle.
One of the first rules of gun safety is "If you don't know how to safe it, don't touch it". And in this case, she clearly violated that rule.
Cops were the ones who tried to convince everyone that "Glocks just go off in the holster" for at least 10 years before they finally figured out that it will go off if their finger is inside the trigger guard when holstering. The average uniformed cop is not a good gun handler. Ponytail cops are even worse.
@@bobmazzi7435 It's a handgun should no be diffcult to "safe". Do you need to rea manual to safe any revolver or handgun? NO! They all operate pretty much the same. Also in the academy go thru training to show them various handguns or maybe they do not do that anymore nowadays.
@@kfelix2934 BS. You don't know WTF you're talking about. They absolutely don't all operate the same, many have no manual safety at all, & more importantly, the cop probably didn't know how his particular holster worked, so she pulled trigger trying to remove it.
Is it illegal for me to carry a weapon? No. Then why did the officer try and remove it? Hey cops stop taking stuff that doesn't belong to you. Officer safety is a joke. 😊
Officer safety is tantamount officer cowardice. If your scared work at a bank
Caselaw says they can. Judges making laws from the bench.
Uvalde
@@wingatebarraclough3553 "Uvalde" the day america really saw that cops are like....muscle bound 300ld cops wearing 2 inches of body armor-carrying a shield and a machine gun far far less brave than an unarmed mad female parent weighting 90#
I agree. If the person isn't under arrest then why are SEIZING their property?
Release the body cam
Fear and stupidity are NOT justifiable reasons to disarm a legally armed citizen. The officer's fear of the gun and stupidity in not knowing how to properly remove a firearm from a holster led to this situation; good luck in convincing a jury that the victim's constitutional rights were violated because the officer was scared and stuck on stupid. You just can not make this stuff up.
Fascist christian conservative russian-republican jim crow welfare staters love violent jim crow policing and government as long as it is aimed at minorities, migrants, gays, trans, children, women, etc. etc. etc.
You see how they changed it to she was trying to remove the holster instead of she was trying to remove the gun
Disarming a non threatening gun carrier is a rights violation , this victim needs to sue
He is going to sue
Utter incompetence and negligence - the officer should be fired but won’t be.
Another SHE SHE SHE aka coward
That officer had no right removing the man firearm from his person. If she had kept her hands to herself this would’ve never happened. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
She had every right under the law, don’t like it? Then stop voting for democrats.
This is precisely why it's a bad idea to inform an officer that you are armed when pulled over. Under the law they can choose to disarm you, and then someone whose competence you have no way to know will be handling your firearm. And, despite what a lot of people think, the vast majority of officers do not have much expertise with firearms. They train to the lowest standard required by their state or department with just their duty weapons, and in many cases may have no other experience at all.
That that is why you have the 5th ammendment right to remain silent and not answer questions.
@@joekev27I'm truly surprised that the donut chaser didn't claim that the victim sh*t himself...they lie so easily.
Exactly
That does not work when you are Blac
@@joekev27in Florida, you’re required by law to answer a cop when he inquires if you’re armed.
Exactly! It’s.a negligent discharge.
JSO stands for "just shot one", other agencies HATE them and mock them for their incompetence.
ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO SEPARATE A CITIZEN FROM HIS PROPERTY.
He didnt fight, didn't make threats, didn't try to flee, wasnt making a ruckus.
No reason.
Her legal basis was, " I have a badge". I can do whatever I want and will get a paid vacation when I screw up. Some people shouldn't be allowed to play with guns.
Usually firearms discharge when the trigger is pulled. This person will get a big check from JSO for this criminally negligent officer. Morgan and Morgan loves this.
From the taxpayers, there will be zero accountability for her actions, or maybe a promotion.
@@Beaver108 Its a female cop. You know she's getting a promotion to Sergeant over this and then she will get a cushy office job.
She had the guy at the car.and unless she handcuffed him....her hand was on HER gun as she fumbled around trying to get the get the gun out of the IWB holster...she was at a bad angle to do that,,and ultimately ended up hitting the trigger.. bang.....It will be interesting to see the bodycam footage...IF that gets published..
The internal memo is clearly subjective. Good luck in court JSO
DEI cop violated his civil rights by attempting to remove the firearm from his body. Remove qualified immunity in all 50 states! Only then will they think before they act violate our rights, not the city coffers.
What on earth does DEI have to do with this?
@@jacobgreengas7121Nothing this guy just hates Police a lot
Absolutely no person should EVER survive the crime of forcibly disarming another person, absent a violent crime as a predicate to the force applied.
How about quit hiring incompetent officers? How about teaching them the actual law? How about teaching them civil rights?
Nobody pulls a trigger accidentally.
Adam Baldwin said he did.
@@doc693 'Alec' - he was acting, i.e. not for real, trained to pretend.
@@majorlaff8682 I was watching a movie from 1969 and the "actors" kept their fingers off the trigger. I guess Alec sucks as an actor.
@@majorlaff8682 Adam did too
@@doc693 I don't watch movies much so i must have missed Adam Baldwin. Only heard of Alec Baldwin because of his famous gun-handling skills.
I assume that the cop’s victim is suing the police officer and the police department. And I hope that the settlement is 7 figures. That guy should have never been shot!
All that will happen is the TAXPAYERS will pay the settlement. Nothing will come out of the department budget or the pension fund.
Do not ever tell a cop you have a gun. you create so much danger for yourself if you do.
The statute says you have to tell LEOs that you have a firearm.
@ What’s statue? You don’t have to in Georgia or Florida. The 4th amendment protects you.
@@russellmiller8332did you just yap something off of Fox News!!??
@@russellmiller8332not in Florida
@russellmiller8332 that's wrong you only have to say something if they specifically ask don't know where you got your info
A quota hire taking a legal weapon off of a guy. she should be put in jail.
She needs to be charged with attempted murder, maximum time, no immunity
She wasnt trying to kill him, shes just incompent, so attempted murder wont fly but negliant battery or reckless brandishment with injury.
I have been traffic stopped on 3 occasions while carrying concealed. These were routine stops. Even though not required, I gave my CCW permit to the officer with my drivers license, and they simply asked me for the location of the weapon, and I told them. No request was made for custody of the weapon. Really stupid policy.
That agency is not classifying the incident properly, it is an officer involved negligent shooting, not “accidental”.
This is what happens when inexperienced people handle firearms.
As a LEO, I have never disarmed a licensed carrier for “officer safety” because guns don’t discharge by themselves.
I don’t see LEOs disarming other LEOs they’ve stopped for traffic violations so why disarm a concealed carrier?
Yes, keep your hands to yourselves officers.
What was not said is that any violations of this "guidance" will be promptly ignored.
Leaving a drug area...just because its a drug area doesn't mean everyone in the US knows it.
That is NOT reasonable suspicion.
The burden of proof is on the accuser - i don't have to prove i'm carrying legally; the cop has to prove i'm carrying illegally.
If a LEO fears for his safety, why in the world does he put himself into an even more unsafe situation instead of backing off and calling for backup?
Why bother have concealed carry permits and open carry laws if officers still treat you like a criminal and a threat anyway? This officer should be charged with reckless endangerment especially since the victim was compliant and cooperative.
They need to keep their damn hands to themselves
Memo: officers should not shoot (spits with contempt) "civilians" who are legally carrying a firearm. However, continue to believe that everyone and everything in existence is out to harm you while you interact with the public. Officer safety is paramount and as always, the only priority.
Is the cop going to be separated from her job.
What do you think would have happened if the driver had accidentally shot the officer while handing over the gun?
That female cop 100% shot that man in his leg. She decided to reach around in his pants and try to take it. Cop should be arrested and charged.
"Legally allowed."
You have the RIGHT to carry.
Oh. The pony tail patrol. That explains everything.
I don't know why officers think a blk man have no rights to carry a weapon. They had no right to remove his legal weapon. He had no reason to exit his vehicle. He was license to carry!!!!
Not an accidental shooting. It's a negligent discharge and a statutory crime. Gun rear gun safeties arent a valid excuse since JSO's Glock service weapons, among many others lack them.
Why haven’t they released the body cam footage?
The nag wanted to show that she was the boss. That is what it is all about.
I can help since he's not sure. The firearm discharged when the trigger was pulled by the obviously negligent cop
So an officer involved shooting?
100%. But not for the female cop sticking her hands down the man's pants and trying to yank his gun out the trigger wouldn't have been squeezed and shot fired. Female cop went out of her way to create that dangerous situation.
"as SHE was..." There you go...SHE!
Dumb and slow officers nothing new
So they were not taught the 2nd amendment in training? They had to send a memo to “remind” them we have a 2nd amendment… we live in a police state! 🤬🤬
"Verbally aggressive", a.k.a. freedom speech needs to be taken to court as well.
The only reason for the email, is so the union can cry that their cops were not properly trained how to deal CC
Not sure how the firearm discharged??? Are fkn kidding me! It discharged because the cop pulled the trigger.
"not sure how the gun was discharged"? It's not rocket science. The officer pulled the trigger. It's pretty sad when you have to send a memo out stating people's Constitution rights and the way their supposed to be applied to people who swear an oath to uphold the Constitution. This officer is a danger to themselves and the public. This officer should be criminally charged and prosecuted.
Whenever I post a real comment with substance that points out flaws in the memo they take it down
These people learn almost nothing in the police academy. Almost nothing. Zero hand-to-hand combat. They dont learn about the amendments theyre sworn to uphold. What the hell do they learn in there?
Another incident involving a scared ignorant female officer.
“The officer decided to separate the driver from his gun”
Aka you illegal seized his property and shot him.
The memo described in the last 10 seconds of the video is basic academy search & seizure. WTF? As a 23 year LEO vet this whole thing is stupid. Negligent officer should be fired and considered not eligible for hire by any Dept. Very sad that taxpayers will have to bear the burden of paying for LE's failure to hire, train and retain quality people.
Not to mention, that officer tugged on the pistol about 2 times before. There is a press release with the victim and his lawyer describing, his take of the situation.
Discharged: because she pulled the trigger😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
so what was to threat???? LEAVE THE GUN SECURE!!! taht Separation, cop SHOT THE DRIVER. MOST DANGEROUS TIME FOR A HANDGUN IS WHEN IT IS being pulled on. WHY is the cop not being charged? ADW???
She was scared…it’s not that hard to see that.
I know the reason she tried to remove that gun and I think everyone else should
As a former state corrections officer, we had only 2 days of gun use, and that was it. No gun safety. Then, when I joined the Tactical Support Unit (SWAT), we would train once a month, but that didn't always mean weapons training. Physical training was done instead. Regular officers were armed and, with little training, took inmates to other prisons around the state on daily, weekly, or monthly transfers. The average time a police officer in the academy spends on weapons training is 71 hours. Less than 2 full weeks. The average police academy is about 5 months. The corrections officer academy I was in was 7 weeks. Fortunately, my federal law enforcement officer father had taught me how to use weapons for self-defense and hunting. Plus, former military. This whole scenario is scary.
If cops weren't such paranoid cowards, they wouldn't need to "separate" people form legally carrying, not would they tell people to keep their hands of their pockets and stand a mile away when filming them.
A self-professed gun expert, such as a LEO, who doesn't know how to remove a pistol from a holster? Sorry, I'm not buying it. They, presumably, receive specific training in how to do just that. Not only that, but, within a few days of this incident, another officer shot a CCW-holder TO DEATH while disarming him for "officer's safety". BTW: If someone intends to do harm to the traffic officer that's just pulled him over for going 5 mph over the posted speed-limit with his legally-carried firearm, would he tell the officer that he had it? When I look at these instances in totality, l have to conclude that some LEOs have declared war on citizens whom chose to exercise their 2A Rights.
Congrats to this media source for not injecting bias or politics into the story.
"Not sure how the firearm discharged." Your officer pulled the trigger sir. That's how it works.
We know how the gun was discharged she pulled the trigger. That’s how it fired. She put her finger in the trigger well and she pulled the trigger. That’s how it fired. You’re telling me with Jso. You have to have a college degree and be educated and you can’t even distinguish how the gun went off it was done by her negligence. She put her finger in the trigger. Well, And pulled the trigger.
Good but too late for this innocent guy. And yes PD are scared of their own shadow. They had no reasonable duty to "separate" the guy from his gun.
This is overreach by that officer. This also violates his 4th amendment rights, but that's another topic.
They will cry "officer safety" heck there was 3 officers on this stop apparently. Initial ticket was dropped for running a red light.
Another uneducated officer, this is just wrong on so many levels.
Idiot cops create a lot of danger for their "safety."
So how much is this idiot officer going to cost the taxpayers?
Good god! A memo is now sent out to explain detentions? Isn't that supposed to be taught in the "academy?"
Is it too much to ask News4Jax to share the memo?
This also goes for removing someone from their vehicle. Mims specifically address the standard which is a person who is armed AND dangerous.
Reporters are too complacent at press conferences. Reporters should call ask during the press conference “why was the cop violating this man’s rights?”
Removing the holster? I hope the mouthpiece was mistaken. Removing the sidearm is one thing but removing both simultaneously is ignorance and negligence at its highest level.
Just imagine if he's been removing the gun himself, and accidentally shot the officer. I wonder what charges he would be facing?
When police do it : Accidental
Everybody else : Negligence
"Not sure how the gun was discharged". You think in her incompetence she pulled the trigger?
not accident how about accountability gun safety? cops are sickening anymore
Scared of everything untrained in 🔫 safety but is Given qualified immunity and a 🔫
"Officers encounter a lot more people with guns..." That is a completely unjustified assumption. Officers are being TOLD that someone has a firearm more often, because they are now legally justified. There is no reason to believe that the actual number of people carrying changed significantly before and after the law went into effect.
So the memo is basically letting them know what they should already before even going out into the field as a policy officer
Even in a memo they get it wrong and they are teaching them that. RAS, reasonable is the first word which is important.
The only words you need to hear are "accidental" and "shooting." No other context matters, this person can never have a firearm ever again.
They had no right to remove it.
It should Read! STOP using Officer Safety, as an excuse to cover up your tyrannical and Bully Boy Tactics!
lawsuit ?
but why was he removing his firearm in the first place when is his constitutional right to bare arms? This is what Black people speak of when we talking about there being a set of rules, regulations and laws for Black people and another set of rules, regulations and laws for white people. They'd have never taken that gun if he was white.
police are out of control
How do you accidentally shoot someone?
stupidity costs money
Where is body camera
Cops lie and cover up.
giving a woman a gun and badge and power over other humans, is likened to giving a drug dealer a bag of coke while you serve a 10 year prison sentence - what could go wrong ?
Found a clue “she” tried to remove the weapon.
She put her hand on the triger😮😮😮😮.
I have seen officers tell people to unload their firearms in front of them while they are at the traffic stop. Administrative handling of a firearm should not be done in your car. Especially during a traffic stop. This is a recipe for abject disaster. Just because the person is engaging in their rights doesn't mean they're a criminal or that they should do anything differently than anyone else. Write the citation and hand it to them. It's being said and it's being said all the time that when you're pulled over you're not under arrest. You most certainly are under arrest and the Supreme Court said that in 1961. If you are on the side of the road because a police officer told you to sit on the side of the road and you're not free to go, that is by law and arrest. Your behavior has been arrested. If they choose to detain you further that's a different story. But it doesn't go your free to travel then they detain you, then you're put under arrest. The definition of an arrest is anytime your behavior has been interrupted. You can't change the definition of the word arrest through legalese. The officer in this case had no business telling the person that they're going to remove the firearm from them. That was even stupider than having the the person disarm themselves. Police officers are not known as being anything like a Firearms expert. Believe me I've trained police officers. Their understanding of the mechanics of a firearm is frequently less than nothing!
It is becoming completely clear that not only should you not tell the officer your arms, he shouldn't be asking if you're armed. It is none of his business. Write the citation from which you hold them over for unless you see that they have somebody restrained in the back of their car or some other such obvious issue. Write the citation or tell them to be more careful whatever it is you need to tell them and end the arrest.
They better rewrite that