only way to not struggle with the sounds of tarkov is coming to terms with how weird and glitchy it is. Dont believe that theres someone who got the sounds right from the get go
Ive spent 350 on some steel series arctic pro wireless JUST for this game..have every resolution monitor at highest hz possible because of this one game lol and audio is by far the worst part of my gameplay...learning directional sounds in this game is rough! But I LOVE the challenge. Thanks for the vid boss!
Have you ever sat in the same spot and take about 5-10 minutes in one spot only to find out, you're the only one left? LOL, I always get myself hyped up and turns out to be a nothing-burger. Lots of time wasted, annnd a few times the exfil was not made lol!
sic productions gaming lmao I’m always caught with waiting too long too loot for fear of being tapped from a squad mate or rushing out right into the squad mate lol 😂 i think I’m being “tactical” by holding when really I’m just sitting there lol
Since the bullet travelles faster than the speed of sound hearing the impact first before the shoot actually makes sense if the shooter is far enough away and the impact close enough.
Yeah, if you are good at figuring out which type of round it was, you can even make a rough estimation of the range it was shot from based on the sound travel time. If you hear an impact followed buy a 7.62x39 gunshot sound after a half second, you can tell that the round was shot from about 350M away if the bullet was traveling at 700m/s. Give or take.
@@jibb1451 True but its highly impractical for most engagements in Tarkov. Half a second is really fast and that's for 350m at 700m/s. It gets a lot more difficult to do the closer they are and the faster the bullet travels. If the sound of impact and the sound are really close together, all you really know is that they are close vs far. You have to take into account more than just the caliber and the firearm to be even remotely accurate. You need the ammo type (bullet velocity for 5.56 ranges from 873 to 1013m/s), but more importantly you need to know the barrel options that are available for their particular firearm (barrels for an m4 range from 873-1006) muzzle velocity). That's not including muzzle devices. And that really only comes into play if you can accurately tell how much time passed in between shot and impact. Using your example (which I believe is based on an SKS so I'll do the same) but putting the shooter at 100m would result in the sound of impact and sound of shot being fired being heard within 0.142 seconds of each other. 50m would be within 0.071 seconds. That's insanely fast and hard for most people to discern. Or lets use this for someone shooting a 20" m4 with m995 (~1000m/s). You hear impact .5 seconds before hearing the shot fired. Okay, they're 500 meters away. Now we'll put them 100m away with the same setup. It would be 0.1 seconds. 50 meters away would be 0.05 seconds. This is definitely viable for counter sniping on maps with long sight lines but I cant see it being useful for much else other than knowing if they are within 100m of you (which is great because 95% of my deaths are within 100m). It is really good to to understand how muzzle velocity impacts the stated bullet velocity and how it affects your shot placement though. For example, If you want to shoot m995 (which has a bullet velocity of 1013m/s) out of a shorty barrel m4 (which has a muzzle velocity of 873m/s), the m995 round is going to be traveling closer to 873m/s than it is to 1013m/s). Lower muzzle velocity = more arc'd trajectory/more bullet drop/more leading shots. Not a big deal if going for CQB but a huge deal if you're trying to make sniping easier on yourself. Higher velocities = flatter trajectory/less bullet drop/less leading of shots. Great for sniping/longer range engagements. As for Jesse, he should have trusted his ears AND his EYES. He didn't see any silhouettes to the front, no muzzle flashes, no movement, nothing. The sound of the impact was in front of him, sure, but it was also close therefore he would have seen them. So the only logical place would be the rock. Although I'm sure it can't be easy keeping track of all the sound cues, and quickly scanning the area while also watching twitch chat and talking. I honestly don't know how streamers do it, just practice I guess. Sorry for the long post. I don't do it typically because most people don't care. But I had nothing better to do so screw it I did it anyways.
Well the bullet travels faster than the speed of sound, so if the time it takes for the impact sound to travel from the impact site to your ears is shorter than the time it takes for the sound from the gun to reach your ears, you will hear the impact first.
I'm just finding this video from two years ago. I've been treating tarkovs audio in post with FL studio 21. Had some amazing results. Also using stereo reference monitors with a proper low end response for a better tracking on panning with crosstalk.
I'm typing this before I've seen the whole video. If you hear on see a gunshot hit a wall, like in the first clip, the sound will be audible for a short period. As you can hear after the shot hits the wall, the shot was louder and thus you can hear the lingering sound of the initial shot to Jesse's right after the shot lands on the wall. EDIT: Jesse explains this in detail. Watch the whole video!
This literally just happened to me as a scav. Heard some fighting and when I got there saw a guy run down the shoreline. Lost him and I'm trying to find him. Starting getting lit up by a silenced rifle and swore it was to my front because it was hitting metal. What I should have realized is that it was hitting metal because the shots were exiting or missing me and hitting the truck in front of me. Seriously hard to do right.
whenever you start to become stressed your ears begin to filter out lots of noises, only focusing on what is directly infront, ITS HIGHLY important to REMAIN calm. :)
I really appreciate your recent videos with more 'high level' tips, with team comms & now audio. Nobody making this kind of stuff (to my knowledge) - make more!
the problem is you have to get use to identify the sound is impact or gunshot and that is a huge factor for determine where the enemy shoot you from. And it can be hard to react to in short time especially if they have supressor
Its those fucking load times for no reason cus they refuse to put money in servers, this "new" queue "matching" system is garbage and i feel myself wanting to play less at those screens. Just let us play battlestate ;^;
The first shot is first heard on the left and then echoes right. A good way to figure out what is going on with the audio might be to take the clip and load it into a free audio editing tool like Audacity. that way you can see the graphs for left and right separately and get a better idea of what is going on. I love the different sounds, I used to play paintball in a private group deep in Ministry of Defence land. A lot of the rustle and chafing sounds of your clothes and stuff underfeet are pretty authentic. You really notice it when your trying to stay alert while crawling, crouching, stalking and running through different terrain. Tarkov pulls that off well. I find the positional audio up close very hard to distinguish, typically not so much left and right, but when they are close and diagonals from me like NE or SE or behind. Utilities like Dolby Atmos can be quite good at that even if they compartmentalize the sounds somewhat. I have an Astro headset and use the EQ to try and enhance footstep frequencies which helps a lot. Thanks for the tip about rotating myself to try and get a better bearing on the direction noise is coming from. I only have about 2 weeks experience with this game so far. Tough, but I really like it and your channel has been really helpful. I subscribed straight after watching the first one :)
Supersonic ammo from a suppressed (dvl?mosin?). Ammo travels faster than sound, so you hear the close impact on the left before you hear the report of the rifle from far behind/right. No bugs with audio there. The sound in tarkov at the moment is VERY good. The only problems i can tell with right now are with occlusion. Which is why you can hear someone directly below you through 10 ft of dirt and concrete, but struggle to hear someone 2 feet below you in a stairwell. Also why you can hear shots that sound inside with the volume and intensity of close outdoor shots. The propagation through mediums (air or barriers) has a hard time being processed by the audio module correctly. The location is pinpoint accurate >99% of the time. The 2nd module of steam audio is to help fix the issue with occlusion. It is currently in the works. Do not blame these issues on the binural audio. It is completely unrelated.
I feel like I heard the sound of the suppresed gun first and then the impact. But I had to put my volume up a good amount. On normal volume I didn't hear the gunshot.
I'm not very good at all with locating position via audio. I seem to do it pretty well when fighting Scavs in offline mode, for some reason, but not very well in online. Sooooo many times I'm getting shot at and am like "I have no f'ing clue where he is." I also cannot seem to judge distance for closer enemies. Everyone sounds like they're just on the other side of a wall or object from me when they're actually 30 yards away or something lol. Fml
open back headset would help a lot. i promise u that. a great closed back headsets will do the job but i notice the deference massively when i switch between them.
@@clamum wider soundstage. Detailed sound. Playing on a closed back is only good for 2 things: bass and no sound leak. Other than that it's not worth it. And any gaming headsets are actually garbage imo for tarkov. Not all of them but the majority. If u wanna have a great experience u can buy Philips Shp9500 for around 70$. One of the best open back headphones in history. and they will sound better than all gaming headsets night and day. And will compete with open back headphones that cost like 250$. U can use a mod mic on it too.. DT900 pro , Sennheiser Hd600. These are great options too but for the price i find no deference between them and the SHP9500.
@@shturmankilla_480 Interesting. I've always just had closed back. How much sound leaks with open back? If you don't have the volume blasting, can others still hear what you're listening to?
@@clamum they can hear everything u play if They're in the same room with you . And you will hear them and ur environment as if ur not wearing a headset. It's the downside of it. But if ur alone in ur room i would highly recommend them.
Audio in this game can definitely be wonky, regardless of the type of audio you use. That first clip definitely sounds like bullet hitting wall/ground to the left and then ringing of the shot after on the right/behind. If it was a long ways away and out of an extremely fast moving bullet (M995 is over 1000m/s), maybe the audio engine could simulate that the bullet hits before sound catches up (due to proximity to the impact) but just a little buggy imo on that first shot.
Not saying anything against the audio being wonky sometimes. But you could clearly hear the shot being taken from behind/slightly right. As of this patch (i have no clear memory of patches before) there almost always is a bullet hit right before the shot. Just as you mentionend the engine seems to be simulating sound travel time and bullet impact apart from another depending on the explicit caliber and its bullet travel time.
@@SmarXTea yea i was gonna say if you pay close attention you can hear the gun after the bullet hits the ground and also if you line up where that shot hit the ground it would have only been possible from the behind and then tbh right after that when he ran up to the rock he got shot in the back and thought it was from the top right after that second shot i knew exactly from where he was getting shot from
@@SmarXTea Yes, not disagreeing with being able to tell it was a gun shot from behind/right. My comment is that normally you hear the gunshot first, *then* the bullet impact but its reversed in this situation, which would definitely cause confusion.
The first clip i heard the shot comming clearly from behind you and the impact at your left, the next of the shots i hear clearly that they are shooting behind you, meanwhile you thinking that they were in front of you xD
I really liked how you played the clip back a few times on the 1st shot. With my G933 headset with surround its blended together. so the impact and gun sound are both muffled almost into one. so i was confused. Then I put the headset in stereo (which drops the overall volume with this headset ) but I could clearly hear the impact to the left then a distinct gun shot to your back right. Very interesting and conclusion....I need a new headset that has good volume in stereo mode lol
I think the biggest issue here is how absolutely busted suppressors are in this game, and it's surprising how few people bring it up. For a game that wants to be "realistic" they really botched suppressors, they're Hollywood quiet at range when in reality they hardly even bring the noise from your muzzle down to a decibel level that's safe for your ears. It's almost impossible to tell even the general direction someone is shooting from when they use a suppressor at a decent distance and that definitely needs to change.
Well this is false and correct . The way they could fix this is make it some only people I front of the muzzle would semi clearly hear the shot but out side of the range would hear it much fainter . I would say this game has handled suppressors perfectly
I def think I struggle with hearing sounds, but also explaining where someone is as well. So many times I feel like I get scared and can't tell where a sound came from, let alone explain that to my partners. :(
These are some of your most helpful tutorials! Is the audio any better than it was at the start of the wipe? So many times had people literally sprint to my location with no audio queues 🤨
Good video Jesse. Idk how much you know about audio. I'm sure veritas knows all about it so maybe you could bring him in on this lol I had a pair of wireless skullcandys for my ps4. When I built my pc I just started using those. They had the digital input which my pc does not have I dont think so I just had them running off a usb. Come to find out I had no directional audio whatsoever. My wife works at a small retail store and brought me a pair of $5 (gaming) headphones that use the audio jack. The audio was drastically better. I was shocked. Maybe you guys can kinda explain how all that stuff works because I've never really researched it. Thanks bro
In Day Z SA this threw a lot of people. You did hear the impact first followed by the shot. Assuming tarkov does infact render the bullet as a generator of sound, because it is supersonic your going to hear crack impact, then the gunshot as it gets to you. This one is tricky because he was at a super awkward distance and a super awkward angle behind you at like 170*. This all assumes that tarkov is actually simulating the speed of sound from the crack of the bullet and the report of the gun. (I know you are very smart and have probably already consider this. this is just my initial assessment). Crazy awkward distance, really awkward angle.) Cheers!
Nice vid Jesse, a lot can be said about the quality and complexity of the EFT soundscape. I got a question; do you think the quality of your earbuds/earphones increases the ability to discern the types of sound and their directionality? Curious what everyone thinks.
Yes, the less static from your headphones distorting sound, the better off you'll be. I recommend a set of headphones made for music as they'll sound miles better than "gaming" headphones
@@ryanvandoren1519 Thanks for your thoughts mate, I'll definitely consider that proposal. I've been gaming using relatively inexpensive skullcandy earbuds since most games don't have as complex a soundscape as EFT, I'm sure upgrading to headphones would improve sound quality & directionality a fair bit.
im not the best at fps games but i hit 1000 hours in tarkov a few weeks ago and i could instantly tell that it was a suppressed bolt action from behind you, so i would have turned around immediately but i still would have died cause i suck lol
The first time I watched the full clip I'll be honest that first shot had me a little off. The 2nd shot you were behind hard cover towards the front where they could have been which makes it behind. I think once you figured it out you played it as well as you could. My typical use of positioning is keeping hard cover to a side or angle so I can better track a shot back with audio.
I’m gonna put this secret out there for everyone. Use regular 3.5mm earbuds like the Apple ones. Just listen to this clip with headphones on and then earbuds and you’ll clearly hear the shot coming from his back right and it hitting the wall. With earbuds you can even tell that the person aimed behind him lol I hope this helps out many people 👍🏼
My first thought was 2 parties, one up the wall then you closed that line of sight and got engaged from behind. It's obvious though when explained. Please BSG fix the Binaural sound its great but needs ironing out
it's the impact of the first round that got fired from behind (: and after checking that carefully in the front, with no obvious angles, and getting shot at your first assumption should be the back in this case anyways
!HELP !DISCUSSION Whenever I get shot at, hearing the supersonic whip or the impact first ( or even both in quick succession ), I do such an extensive panic pull on my mouse that I just cannot locate the last but most important audible cue, namely the gunshot xD During that panic pull the gunshot just is smudged too much across my lateral audible field while pulling a 90-degree-off-current-movement-direction-sprint-start. (or what ever the equivalent of the visual field for audio is called ) But I dont think it would be smart to wait for the actual gunshot sound to arrive either, because by the time you hear it, there might already be another round on the way and if you did not move your head by that time, your probably dead. Any Opinions on how to counter this "being irritated by the panic dodge"? Usually I do judge the direction towards my enemy wrong because of it, but I keep it in mind and wait for a second shot, trying actively to not smudge that audio cue too. would be great to know this detailed how other ppl react to being shot at, maybe we get to learn from each other!
The first shot is clearly coming from behind your back, 4'o clock or so. I don't understand how it could sound from the front as impact is louder but its to your 10 o clock or so, which is a wall. That being said, I do have those moments where i cant tell the general direction of the shot or mix it completely, especially when i'm caught in the open... a distant impact can sound very much like a suppressed shot, combine it with bullets cracking my brain just shuts down and i end up just running away from the sound.
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Do you struggle with the audio in Escape From Tarkov?
only way to not struggle with the sounds of tarkov is coming to terms with how weird and glitchy it is. Dont believe that theres someone who got the sounds right from the get go
Ive spent 350 on some steel series arctic pro wireless JUST for this game..have every resolution monitor at highest hz possible because of this one game lol and audio is by far the worst part of my gameplay...learning directional sounds in this game is rough! But I LOVE the challenge. Thanks for the vid boss!
Have you ever sat in the same spot and take about 5-10 minutes in one spot only to find out, you're the only one left? LOL, I always get myself hyped up and turns out to be a nothing-burger. Lots of time wasted, annnd a few times the exfil was not made lol!
sic productions gaming lmao I’m always caught with waiting too long too loot for fear of being tapped from a squad mate or rushing out right into the squad mate lol 😂 i think I’m being “tactical” by holding when really I’m just sitting there lol
in queen building on reserve.. crazy vertical sound problems. I'm hearing staples.. bag zips.. everything ...
Since the bullet travelles faster than the speed of sound hearing the impact first before the shoot actually makes sense if the shooter is far enough away and the impact close enough.
Yeah, if you are good at figuring out which type of round it was, you can even make a rough estimation of the range it was shot from based on the sound travel time. If you hear an impact followed buy a 7.62x39 gunshot sound after a half second, you can tell that the round was shot from about 350M away if the bullet was traveling at 700m/s. Give or take.
yup
@@jibb1451 True but its highly impractical for most engagements in Tarkov. Half a second is really fast and that's for 350m at 700m/s. It gets a lot more difficult to do the closer they are and the faster the bullet travels. If the sound of impact and the sound are really close together, all you really know is that they are close vs far.
You have to take into account more than just the caliber and the firearm to be even remotely accurate. You need the ammo type (bullet velocity for 5.56 ranges from 873 to 1013m/s), but more importantly you need to know the barrel options that are available for their particular firearm (barrels for an m4 range from 873-1006) muzzle velocity). That's not including muzzle devices.
And that really only comes into play if you can accurately tell how much time passed in between shot and impact. Using your example (which I believe is based on an SKS so I'll do the same) but putting the shooter at 100m would result in the sound of impact and sound of shot being fired being heard within 0.142 seconds of each other. 50m would be within 0.071 seconds. That's insanely fast and hard for most people to discern. Or lets use this for someone shooting a 20" m4 with m995 (~1000m/s). You hear impact .5 seconds before hearing the shot fired. Okay, they're 500 meters away. Now we'll put them 100m away with the same setup. It would be 0.1 seconds. 50 meters away would be 0.05 seconds. This is definitely viable for counter sniping on maps with long sight lines but I cant see it being useful for much else other than knowing if they are within 100m of you (which is great because 95% of my deaths are within 100m).
It is really good to to understand how muzzle velocity impacts the stated bullet velocity and how it affects your shot placement though. For example, If you want to shoot m995 (which has a bullet velocity of 1013m/s) out of a shorty barrel m4 (which has a muzzle velocity of 873m/s), the m995 round is going to be traveling closer to 873m/s than it is to 1013m/s). Lower muzzle velocity = more arc'd trajectory/more bullet drop/more leading shots. Not a big deal if going for CQB but a huge deal if you're trying to make sniping easier on yourself. Higher velocities = flatter trajectory/less bullet drop/less leading of shots. Great for sniping/longer range engagements.
As for Jesse, he should have trusted his ears AND his EYES. He didn't see any silhouettes to the front, no muzzle flashes, no movement, nothing. The sound of the impact was in front of him, sure, but it was also close therefore he would have seen them. So the only logical place would be the rock. Although I'm sure it can't be easy keeping track of all the sound cues, and quickly scanning the area while also watching twitch chat and talking. I honestly don't know how streamers do it, just practice I guess.
Sorry for the long post. I don't do it typically because most people don't care. But I had nothing better to do so screw it I did it anyways.
Well the bullet travels faster than the speed of sound, so if the time it takes for the impact sound to travel from the impact site to your ears is shorter than the time it takes for the sound from the gun to reach your ears, you will hear the impact first.
I love you Jessica Sam. The Bob Ross of Tarkov content.
4:00 because the bullet hitting the wall travels to you faster than the sound the gun far away. that's sick
I'm just finding this video from two years ago. I've been treating tarkovs audio in post with FL studio 21. Had some amazing results. Also using stereo reference monitors with a proper low end response for a better tracking on panning with crosstalk.
More dying clips breakdown please
So strange seeing this video 3 years later. The audio positioning sounds perfectly fine to me. Ngl I miss steam audio compared to now.
Today I get my new headphones, so THANK YOU for this video, excelent timing Jesse. Best wishes from Argentina!
I'm typing this before I've seen the whole video. If you hear on see a gunshot hit a wall, like in the first clip, the sound will be audible for a short period. As you can hear after the shot hits the wall, the shot was louder and thus you can hear the lingering sound of the initial shot to Jesse's right after the shot lands on the wall.
EDIT: Jesse explains this in detail. Watch the whole video!
This literally just happened to me as a scav. Heard some fighting and when I got there saw a guy run down the shoreline. Lost him and I'm trying to find him. Starting getting lit up by a silenced rifle and swore it was to my front because it was hitting metal. What I should have realized is that it was hitting metal because the shots were exiting or missing me and hitting the truck in front of me. Seriously hard to do right.
whenever you start to become stressed your ears begin to filter out lots of noises, only focusing on what is directly infront, ITS HIGHLY important to REMAIN calm. :)
I really appreciate your recent videos with more 'high level' tips, with team comms & now audio. Nobody making this kind of stuff (to my knowledge) - make more!
the problem is you have to get use to identify the sound is impact or gunshot and that is a huge factor for determine where the enemy shoot you from. And it can be hard to react to in short time especially if they have supressor
sadly I dont seem to find tarkov fun anymore but I do enjoy watching people play tarkov.
Its those fucking load times for no reason cus they refuse to put money in servers, this "new" queue "matching" system is garbage and i feel myself wanting to play less at those screens. Just let us play battlestate ;^;
I am a beginner and my biggest problem is to estimate the distance of sounds, especially with the comtac headsets.
The first shot is first heard on the left and then echoes right.
A good way to figure out what is going on with the audio might be to take the clip and load it into a free audio editing tool like Audacity. that way you can see the graphs for left and right separately and get a better idea of what is going on.
I love the different sounds, I used to play paintball in a private group deep in Ministry of Defence land. A lot of the rustle and chafing sounds of your clothes and stuff underfeet are pretty authentic. You really notice it when your trying to stay alert while crawling, crouching, stalking and running through different terrain. Tarkov pulls that off well.
I find the positional audio up close very hard to distinguish, typically not so much left and right, but when they are close and diagonals from me like NE or SE or behind. Utilities like Dolby Atmos can be quite good at that even if they compartmentalize the sounds somewhat. I have an Astro headset and use the EQ to try and enhance footstep frequencies which helps a lot. Thanks for the tip about rotating myself to try and get a better bearing on the direction noise is coming from.
I only have about 2 weeks experience with this game so far. Tough, but I really like it and your channel has been really helpful. I subscribed straight after watching the first one :)
Supersonic ammo from a suppressed (dvl?mosin?). Ammo travels faster than sound, so you hear the close impact on the left before you hear the report of the rifle from far behind/right. No bugs with audio there.
The sound in tarkov at the moment is VERY good. The only problems i can tell with right now are with occlusion. Which is why you can hear someone directly below you through 10 ft of dirt and concrete, but struggle to hear someone 2 feet below you in a stairwell. Also why you can hear shots that sound inside with the volume and intensity of close outdoor shots. The propagation through mediums (air or barriers) has a hard time being processed by the audio module correctly. The location is pinpoint accurate >99% of the time. The 2nd module of steam audio is to help fix the issue with occlusion. It is currently in the works. Do not blame these issues on the binural audio. It is completely unrelated.
This was so helpful for figuring out gun shots and also the audio of foot steps
I feel like I heard the sound of the suppresed gun first and then the impact. But I had to put my volume up a good amount. On normal volume I didn't hear the gunshot.
Super dope! i love this section of the woods map
There has definitely been some funny business with the sound these last few days.
Theres also been some ninja changes to things
Its a shot from the right, the sound of the bullet hitting the wall was louder than the gunshot through the trees...
I'm not very good at all with locating position via audio.
I seem to do it pretty well when fighting Scavs in offline mode, for some reason, but not very well in online. Sooooo many times I'm getting shot at and am like "I have no f'ing clue where he is."
I also cannot seem to judge distance for closer enemies. Everyone sounds like they're just on the other side of a wall or object from me when they're actually 30 yards away or something lol. Fml
open back headset would help a lot. i promise u that. a great closed back headsets will do the job but i notice the deference massively when i switch between them.
@@shturmankilla_480 Rly? Huh. I've always had closed back. I was actually wondering what the advantage was to open back style.
@@clamum wider soundstage. Detailed sound.
Playing on a closed back is only good for 2 things: bass and no sound leak. Other than that it's not worth it. And any gaming headsets are actually garbage imo for tarkov. Not all of them but the majority.
If u wanna have a great experience u can buy Philips Shp9500 for around 70$. One of the best open back headphones in history. and they will sound better than all gaming headsets night and day. And will compete with open back headphones that cost like 250$.
U can use a mod mic on it too..
DT900 pro , Sennheiser Hd600. These are great options too but for the price i find no deference between them and the SHP9500.
@@shturmankilla_480 Interesting. I've always just had closed back.
How much sound leaks with open back? If you don't have the volume blasting, can others still hear what you're listening to?
@@clamum they can hear everything u play if They're in the same room with you . And you will hear them and ur environment as if ur not wearing a headset. It's the downside of it. But if ur alone in ur room i would highly recommend them.
Audio in this game can definitely be wonky, regardless of the type of audio you use. That first clip definitely sounds like bullet hitting wall/ground to the left and then ringing of the shot after on the right/behind. If it was a long ways away and out of an extremely fast moving bullet (M995 is over 1000m/s), maybe the audio engine could simulate that the bullet hits before sound catches up (due to proximity to the impact) but just a little buggy imo on that first shot.
Not saying anything against the audio being wonky sometimes. But you could clearly hear the shot being taken from behind/slightly right. As of this patch (i have no clear memory of patches before) there almost always is a bullet hit right before the shot. Just as you mentionend the engine seems to be simulating sound travel time and bullet impact apart from another depending on the explicit caliber and its bullet travel time.
@@SmarXTea yea i was gonna say if you pay close attention you can hear the gun after the bullet hits the ground and also if you line up where that shot hit the ground it would have only been possible from the behind and then tbh right after that when he ran up to the rock he got shot in the back and thought it was from the top right after that second shot i knew exactly from where he was getting shot from
@@SmarXTea Yes, not disagreeing with being able to tell it was a gun shot from behind/right. My comment is that normally you hear the gunshot first, *then* the bullet impact but its reversed in this situation, which would definitely cause confusion.
The first clip i heard the shot comming clearly from behind you and the impact at your left, the next of the shots i hear clearly that they are shooting behind you, meanwhile you thinking that they were in front of you xD
It might just be me, but I feel the audio is a bit messed up in some of the buildings in the new customs area
Some metal surfaces have the concrete sound
I really liked how you played the clip back a few times on the 1st shot. With my G933 headset with surround its blended together. so the impact and gun sound are both muffled almost into one. so i was confused. Then I put the headset in stereo (which drops the overall volume with this headset ) but I could clearly hear the impact to the left then a distinct gun shot to your back right. Very interesting and conclusion....I need a new headset that has good volume in stereo mode lol
I think the biggest issue here is how absolutely busted suppressors are in this game, and it's surprising how few people bring it up. For a game that wants to be "realistic" they really botched suppressors, they're Hollywood quiet at range when in reality they hardly even bring the noise from your muzzle down to a decibel level that's safe for your ears. It's almost impossible to tell even the general direction someone is shooting from when they use a suppressor at a decent distance and that definitely needs to change.
Well this is false and correct . The way they could fix this is make it some only people I front of the muzzle would semi clearly hear the shot but out side of the range would hear it much fainter . I would say this game has handled suppressors perfectly
you played with my mind and that first shot
he got my letter lol
damn you have come a long way since i watched you last
I def think I struggle with hearing sounds, but also explaining where someone is as well. So many times I feel like I get scared and can't tell where a sound came from, let alone explain that to my partners. :(
Great video man, hope i can watch you on stream sometime.
These are some of your most helpful tutorials! Is the audio any better than it was at the start of the wipe? So many times had people literally sprint to my location with no audio queues 🤨
i heard right first impact second i can tell on all shots its from behind what's wrong with that?
Do you play with Binaural on or off? Some swear by it and some say it's not in a usable state yet.
I can't live with out it at this point
In this moment 3:51 I Heard from Left first... I'm using AD700X
The impact First
He's so nice when asking for likes that I can't help but push the like button
love the vids man keep it up!!!
Need a whole course on how to deal with the player scavs on reserve :)
Can you do a breakdown of when you spawn 2 mins late into a raid and your character literally appears in 3 THICC bois scopes Kappa
lmao that would be great
Good video Jesse. Idk how much you know about audio. I'm sure veritas knows all about it so maybe you could bring him in on this lol I had a pair of wireless skullcandys for my ps4. When I built my pc I just started using those. They had the digital input which my pc does not have I dont think so I just had them running off a usb. Come to find out I had no directional audio whatsoever. My wife works at a small retail store and brought me a pair of $5 (gaming) headphones that use the audio jack. The audio was drastically better. I was shocked. Maybe you guys can kinda explain how all that stuff works because I've never really researched it. Thanks bro
Great video dude!
shot was right of you and bullet landed on your left so somewhere beind you the shot came from that is what i heard on the sound test
In Day Z SA this threw a lot of people. You did hear the impact first followed by the shot. Assuming tarkov does infact render the bullet as a generator of sound, because it is supersonic your going to hear crack impact, then the gunshot as it gets to you. This one is tricky because he was at a super awkward distance and a super awkward angle behind you at like 170*. This all assumes that tarkov is actually simulating the speed of sound from the crack of the bullet and the report of the gun. (I know you are very smart and have probably already consider this. this is just my initial assessment). Crazy awkward distance, really awkward angle.) Cheers!
More videos involving sound.
Not sure if it’s with everyone else but I struggle with the audio in Tarkov and more videos would help!
Nice vid Jesse, a lot can be said about the quality and complexity of the EFT soundscape. I got a question; do you think the quality of your earbuds/earphones increases the ability to discern the types of sound and their directionality? Curious what everyone thinks.
Yes, the less static from your headphones distorting sound, the better off you'll be. I recommend a set of headphones made for music as they'll sound miles better than "gaming" headphones
@@ryanvandoren1519 Thanks for your thoughts mate, I'll definitely consider that proposal. I've been gaming using relatively inexpensive skullcandy earbuds since most games don't have as complex a soundscape as EFT, I'm sure upgrading to headphones would improve sound quality & directionality a fair bit.
@@Kang_Ki_Hyeon for sure dude, if you ever need someone to play with my in game name is: Splyntr
im not the best at fps games but i hit 1000 hours in tarkov a few weeks ago and i could instantly tell that it was a suppressed bolt action from behind you, so i would have turned around immediately but i still would have died cause i suck lol
I loved the video!
The first time I watched the full clip I'll be honest that first shot had me a little off. The 2nd shot you were behind hard cover towards the front where they could have been which makes it behind. I think once you figured it out you played it as well as you could.
My typical use of positioning is keeping hard cover to a side or angle so I can better track a shot back with audio.
I’m gonna put this secret out there for everyone. Use regular 3.5mm earbuds like the Apple ones. Just listen to this clip with headphones on and then earbuds and you’ll clearly hear the shot coming from his back right and it hitting the wall. With earbuds you can even tell that the person aimed behind him lol I hope this helps out many people 👍🏼
How many hours have you got
where's the discord chat link
Sound in Rust pre update is literally better than tarkov
My first thought was 2 parties, one up the wall then you closed that line of sight and got engaged from behind. It's obvious though when explained. Please BSG fix the Binaural sound its great but needs ironing out
I think the sound reflect on the wall in the first case..maybe not..? Great video BTW
it's the impact of the first round that got fired from behind (: and after checking that carefully in the front, with no obvious angles, and getting shot at your first assumption should be the back in this case anyways
I just started playing Tarkov a couple months ago, still having trouble with some firefights, anyone wanna queue up with me?
do you use steam audio?
!HELP !DISCUSSION
Whenever I get shot at, hearing the supersonic whip or the impact first ( or even both in quick succession ), I do such an extensive panic pull on my mouse that I just cannot locate the last but most important audible cue, namely the gunshot xD
During that panic pull the gunshot just is smudged too much across my lateral audible field while pulling a 90-degree-off-current-movement-direction-sprint-start. (or what ever the equivalent of the visual field for audio is called )
But I dont think it would be smart to wait for the actual gunshot sound to arrive either, because by the time you hear it, there might already be another round on the way and if you did not move your head by that time, your probably dead.
Any Opinions on how to counter this "being irritated by the panic dodge"? Usually I do judge the direction towards my enemy wrong because of it, but I keep it in mind and wait for a second shot, trying actively to not smudge that audio cue too.
would be great to know this detailed how other ppl react to being shot at, maybe we get to learn from each other!
Thanks!
Love ir but i would like a video with 3 or 4 examples on one vídeo.
The first shot is clearly coming from behind your back, 4'o clock or so. I don't understand how it could sound from the front as impact is louder but its to your 10 o clock or so, which is a wall. That being said, I do have those moments where i cant tell the general direction of the shot or mix it completely, especially when i'm caught in the open... a distant impact can sound very much like a suppressed shot, combine it with bullets cracking my brain just shuts down and i end up just running away from the sound.
You guys are having time to react to gun shots?
Confirmation bias ftl