I think these films perfectly capture that era of record collecting (1990-2000) when vinyl has just become obsolete but was still ubiquotos among average music afficionados - contrasted with our time's marketing of vinyl as a deluxe product for the upper middle classes
This is Gold !! Loved the original film and this is a perfect addition. I find this footage a little more calming & less provocative than the original, both are great.
This and the original are great I watch them over and over just to look at all the records,I saw the original years ago on vhs..good to see ya still kicking,would love to see a present day 2019 where they now continuation or something..thanks for these great films
I loved both films. The first one showcases a different breed of collector. I have spent nearly two decades working with people who have autism, and I see obvious signs of it in many of the collectors from the first film. In this second film, we see more typical people. We are all at least "a little" on the autism spectrum, and I think sometimes it's easy for some relatively neurotypical people to fall into autistic tendencies as a result of stress or life events. We know we don't want to go down that road, so the first film shows us what we can become if we embrace those tendencies. The second film shows us that there is a way to enjoy our hobbies without letting them control us. Collecting is a way that many people cope with their disconnect from parts of society. It can serve a healthy purpose, or it can become unhealthy and consume us. It can connect us with others or drive us into isolation. During times of my life when I am more isolated from others, I turn to collecting. When I forge new relationships with people, the collecting gets forgotten. There is so much to think about and analyze here.
I, too, recognized the autistic among those interviewed in the first film. As a VERY late diagnosed (at age 53) autistic, I certainly understand why record collecting is something that an autistic mind would latch onto. Although I REALLY liked records when I was a kid, I moved on to digital music when it became available, and "never looked back". But in recent times, I have developed a nostalgia that I previously never thought I had in me, and just ordered a new record player from Amazon. I'll TRY to not get too caried away...
Very insightful comments thank you. Yes I agree life stresses and isolation are factors to beware of. Although the actual playing of vinyl and sharing sometimes with others is a great thing. My tastes are also expanding far more. I love the retro and bargain buy element. Thks again for yr insights.
We are definitely not all on the autism spectrum... You either are on the spectrum or you're not. But yeah, most collectors probably are on the spectrum, if that's what you meant.
1:26:56 - When I was a teenager I used to have nightmares of my mother burning my records. She's a born again Christian and hated my music. Thankfully my parents were divorced so little by little I just smuggled my records to my dad's house where they'd be safe from any harm as he was agnostic and more open minded to my music. I guess that makes sense as he introduced me to great classic rock bands and artists: THE BEATLES, CCR, THE DOORS, FLEETWOOD MAC, THE CARS, DIRE STRAITS, JOHNNY CASH, WILLIE NELSON, ELTON JOHN, SIMON AND GARFUNKEL,THE EAGLES, JIMI HENDRIX, JANIS JOPLIN,
I gave this a bad review in the beginning but I changed my mind. After seeing all these boring vinyl doku`s on youtube, always the same, just dudes talking about there records I have to say this is something different, this is great. This is going deeper.
Thank you for posting this. As much as I admire your more recent films, the mirror trilogy just speaks to me in some way that is hard to explain. It was great to see this additional material, especially the scene about past friends you still think about.
“When I started collecting, there WERE records around, at the Salvation Army etc..” dude I started collecting in 2000 when this came out and there was a ton of stuff still to be found. TRY DIGGING IN 2021 😂😭 Back in the early 2000’s good records were 2 or 4 bucks in the used music stores, maybe 25 cents at the thrift stores. Now with the internet EVERYONE is getting top dollar. Just saw Exile on Mainstreet in ratty and tattered condition for 30 bucks at a bookstore.
It’s also just straight up inflation. A 4.00 record in 1998 is 16.00 in 2021. If everything else has gone up in prices it stands to reason records would too. Also in the 90’s and early 2000s collectors really benefited from the casual listeners who turned in their records for CDs. I don’t think it’s just the “vinyl resurgence” that contributes to high prices, it’s also that each year that goes by it’s further from when all these great records were made and that obviously will affect availability.
@@bigsweetc6 adjusting for inflation, the four dollars in 1998 would be $6.71 in 2021. I get your point but things are truly very expensive right now. Supply and demand. More and more people are collecting and there are only so many first pressings or companies making small batch reissues.
TO COMMENT ON MR.ALISON'S THOUGHTS, UR RIGHT! BACK IN 2000 YOU COULD CATCH WAX ALMOST ANYWHERE, EVEN BEFORE THAT THERE WERE SPOTS YOU COULD GET RECORDS FOR VERY DESCENT PRICES. ALMOST ANYTHING OR IN ANY GENRES THE PRICE WAS RIGHT(NO PUN INTENDED) BUT IT'S TRUE! NOW FAST FORWARD TO 2022 PRICES ARE OUTRAGEOUS FOR CERTAIN RECORDS BUT......OH WELL, IF U WANT THE REALLY BANGIN' STUFF U GOTTA COME OUTTA POCKET AND COME WITH SOME WEIGHT IN UR POCKETS.....NEVER STOP DIGGIN' PEOPLE.
33:35 - As far as bands he mentions are mainly mid 70's to late 80's pop rock records. No mention and any punk, goth, metal, garage, new wave, industrial, rockabilly, glam, psychedelic, grunge, alternative...and these are just sub genres of rock. What about rap and hip-hop, gospel, big band and show tunes? I agree with the interviewee prior to this guy, it's sorta a cop out to say you like everything...or my favorite that I hear most of the time from mainly teenagers and young adults "I like everything except country" 😆😂
1:00:02 - Yea, I got that record... Not only have I heard OF that record Not only have I SEEN that record Not only have I HEARD that record... I GOT that record... 😏
I stopped collecting records because it became a burden to me. I still find joy in listening to the collection I gathered over the years and limit my vinyl purchases to music I can’t find on any other medium at a reasonable price.
My parents had records 45,33, 78 so we alot of music in the house .mom have the radio on , if she liked the song she would go down town and buy it. 45 records. We country , rock top 40 , RB , English bands albums. We had no beach boys ,no Bob Dylan , no Elvis,. But we had buddy holy ,Donovan and others in the house on 45's.
Elton John had a warehouse filled with his collection back in the day. I’d love to see a documentary about music peoples collections. McCartney has a collection too..
Excellent. If you read the Wikipedia article on what causes "the collecting mania," and you think "none of these reasons are me at all" (which is exactly what my reaction was)--then you will probably find the truth here, in either of these videos.
Any punk or sub genres of? crust, anarcho, peace, oi, hardcore, street.. any of those?? Any neo folk or post-punk? Joy Division or Death In June? If you have anything that I've described/mentioned, then I'll stand corrected.
I think when you are depressive it makes no difference if you collect records or not. Maybe it is a sign of compensation but other depressed person compensates with a different thing, does not have to be collecting. I collect records now but collected other stuff before and I am not depressive, never been in my live and my wife did not like what I collected before ( tobacco pipes) but likes what I collect now, so I had both and it did not make any difference to me.
What hath thou brought us now Dr. Bringdown?... Lets all take ourselves out of the moment and waste our precious time examining other people's behaviour shall we... I think not.
I think these films perfectly capture that era of record collecting (1990-2000) when vinyl has just become obsolete but was still ubiquotos among average music afficionados - contrasted with our time's marketing of vinyl as a deluxe product for the upper middle classes
Amazing how good this doc was!! Truly amazing!!! To this day still the best one on vinyl I've ever seen.
Thanks to all those involved in bringing both docs. out, and to those brave enough to allow us into their intimate domains. x
This is Gold !! Loved the original film and this is a perfect addition. I find this footage a little more calming & less provocative than the original, both are great.
yes ,this is meant to be more like a "normal" documentary
I love how this video ends. It’s pure art. Down to the distortion and glitches
thanks very much for this , just found this alternate take today! can’t get enough of these characters ( both enteraining and revealing)
1:11:42 "We're hippies. We're Mr. and Mrs. Hippie."
Or did he say, "Mr. and Mississippi"?
I’ve enjoyed all of your docs including this ‘added footage’ addendum.
I love both this and the original film! Thank you Alan!
Collecting every K-Tel record and memorising each one's tracklist.
HOWZAT GRAB YA?? *brow furrows*
This and the original are great I watch them over and over just to look at all the records,I saw the original years ago on vhs..good to see ya still kicking,would love to see a present day 2019 where they now continuation or something..thanks for these great films
Records is coming out soon!
I loved both films. The first one showcases a different breed of collector. I have spent nearly two decades working with people who have autism, and I see obvious signs of it in many of the collectors from the first film. In this second film, we see more typical people. We are all at least "a little" on the autism spectrum, and I think sometimes it's easy for some relatively neurotypical people to fall into autistic tendencies as a result of stress or life events. We know we don't want to go down that road, so the first film shows us what we can become if we embrace those tendencies. The second film shows us that there is a way to enjoy our hobbies without letting them control us. Collecting is a way that many people cope with their disconnect from parts of society. It can serve a healthy purpose, or it can become unhealthy and consume us. It can connect us with others or drive us into isolation. During times of my life when I am more isolated from others, I turn to collecting. When I forge new relationships with people, the collecting gets forgotten. There is so much to think about and analyze here.
I, too, recognized the autistic among those interviewed in the first film. As a VERY late diagnosed (at age 53) autistic, I certainly understand why record collecting is something that an autistic mind would latch onto. Although I REALLY liked records when I was a kid, I moved on to digital music when it became available, and "never looked back".
But in recent times, I have developed a nostalgia that I previously never thought I had in me, and just ordered a new record player from Amazon. I'll TRY to not get too caried away...
Very insightful comments thank you. Yes I agree life stresses and isolation are factors to beware of. Although the actual playing of vinyl and sharing sometimes with others is a great thing. My tastes are also expanding far more. I love the retro and bargain buy element. Thks again for yr insights.
Delusional people want to diagnose others with their favourite conditions all the time. You're one of them.
We are definitely not all on the autism spectrum... You either are on the spectrum or you're not. But yeah, most collectors probably are on the spectrum, if that's what you meant.
1:26:56 - When I was a teenager I used to have nightmares of my mother burning my records. She's a born again Christian and hated my music. Thankfully my parents were divorced so little by little I just smuggled my records to my dad's house where they'd be safe from any harm as he was agnostic and more open minded to my music. I guess that makes sense as he introduced me to great classic rock bands and artists: THE BEATLES, CCR, THE DOORS, FLEETWOOD MAC, THE CARS, DIRE STRAITS, JOHNNY CASH, WILLIE NELSON, ELTON JOHN, SIMON AND GARFUNKEL,THE EAGLES, JIMI HENDRIX, JANIS JOPLIN,
22:03 - I agree! I feel EXACTLY how this guy feels when I find a record of great importance to myself.
Fight or flight response mode lol
Brilliant. Thanks for posting. A friend sent this to me knowing I enjoyed the original and I can't believe I haven't seen it yet!!!!
I gave this a bad review in the beginning but I changed my mind. After seeing all these boring vinyl doku`s on youtube, always the same, just dudes talking about there records I have to say this is something different, this is great. This is going deeper.
My mom had 2 battery powered record players back in the 70's . She would play music out on the back porch or at a family picinc.
Thank you Alan! I have been wanting to see this for years.
Thank you for posting this. As much as I admire your more recent films, the mirror trilogy just speaks to me in some way that is hard to explain. It was great to see this additional material, especially the scene about past friends you still think about.
that's okay if you like the mirror ones better. I'm flattered that you even think about it . And we can't help what speaks to us.
They way he laughs at the Iron Butterfly comment killed me lol
"the alternate take of somebody cutting a fart during the solo" :-D
Like the loose feel I get from this movies. A bit essayistic. Nice.
“When I started collecting, there WERE records around, at the Salvation Army etc..” dude I started collecting in 2000 when this came out and there was a ton of stuff still to be found. TRY DIGGING IN 2021 😂😭 Back in the early 2000’s good records were 2 or 4 bucks in the used music stores, maybe 25 cents at the thrift stores. Now with the internet EVERYONE is getting top dollar. Just saw Exile on Mainstreet in ratty and tattered condition for 30 bucks at a bookstore.
It’s also just straight up inflation. A 4.00 record in 1998 is 16.00 in 2021. If everything else has gone up in prices it stands to reason records would too. Also in the 90’s and early 2000s collectors really benefited from the casual listeners who turned in their records for CDs. I don’t think it’s just the “vinyl resurgence” that contributes to high prices, it’s also that each year that goes by it’s further from when all these great records were made and that obviously will affect availability.
@@bigsweetc6 adjusting for inflation, the four dollars in 1998 would be $6.71 in 2021. I get your point but things are truly very expensive right now. Supply and demand. More and more people are collecting and there are only so many first pressings or companies making small batch reissues.
TO COMMENT ON MR.ALISON'S THOUGHTS, UR RIGHT! BACK IN 2000 YOU COULD CATCH WAX ALMOST ANYWHERE, EVEN BEFORE THAT THERE WERE SPOTS YOU COULD GET RECORDS FOR VERY DESCENT PRICES. ALMOST ANYTHING OR IN ANY GENRES THE PRICE WAS RIGHT(NO PUN INTENDED) BUT IT'S TRUE! NOW FAST FORWARD TO 2022 PRICES ARE OUTRAGEOUS FOR CERTAIN RECORDS BUT......OH WELL, IF U WANT THE REALLY BANGIN' STUFF U GOTTA COME OUTTA POCKET AND COME WITH SOME WEIGHT IN UR POCKETS.....NEVER STOP DIGGIN' PEOPLE.
The bit at 39:55 hit hard. How I feel to a T, except they're playlists on Apple Music.
33:35 - As far as bands he mentions are mainly mid 70's to late 80's pop rock records. No mention and any punk, goth, metal, garage, new wave, industrial, rockabilly, glam, psychedelic, grunge, alternative...and these are just sub genres of rock. What about rap and hip-hop, gospel, big band and show tunes? I agree with the interviewee prior to this guy, it's sorta a cop out to say you like everything...or my favorite that I hear most of the time from mainly teenagers and young adults "I like everything except country" 😆😂
1:00:02 - Yea, I got that record...
Not only have I heard OF that record
Not only have I SEEN that record
Not only have I HEARD that record...
I GOT that record... 😏
THIS DOC IS THE SHIT.....THE TWO GUYS OUT IN THE WINTER LISTENING TO RECORDS WITH THE MILITARY JACKET......PRICELESS.
thank you, thank you!!
Hi Ben. Thank you also.
1:27:34 THE POSTERS THIS GUY HAS....
It’s so great that everyone expected to list off the shit they bought!
I stopped collecting records because it became a burden to me. I still find joy in listening to the collection I gathered over the years and limit my vinyl purchases to music I can’t find on any other medium at a reasonable price.
Do you still have any footage of Jim and Scott at Neurotica? I'm trying to find that. Thanks!
Loved that shop. Queen St was such a mecca for used wax back in the day...
OMG, I have to have both editions of this grail! Is the alt. take a little toppy in parts, though?
My parents had records 45,33, 78 so we alot of music in the house .mom have the radio on , if she liked the song she would go down town and buy it. 45 records. We country , rock top 40 , RB , English bands albums. We had no beach boys ,no Bob Dylan , no Elvis,. But we had buddy holy ,Donovan and others in the house on 45's.
NO WAY CAN I COME UP WITH A TOP TEN, NOR FOURTY SONG LIST!!!! THERE'S JUST TOO MANY DAMN SONGS AND RECORDS FOR THAT.
Wonderful!!!
How old is this? I can't tell if it's aged or if it's just the style of film/filmmaking 🎥🤔
The original documentary came out in 2000.
@@dege13 Cool, thx!
Even some of the rock star have great record collections aswell. Jimmy page Has a nice one.
And he stole riffs from most of them 🤫
Elton John had a warehouse filled with his collection back in the day. I’d love to see a documentary about music peoples collections. McCartney has a collection too..
Excellent. If you read the Wikipedia article on what causes "the collecting mania," and you think "none of these reasons are me at all" (which is exactly what my reaction was)--then you will probably find the truth here, in either of these videos.
1:06:47 - I wish I knew more female vinyl fanatics. I know maybe 2-5 women that even have a small vinyl collection... and they're all ex-gf's lol.
33:50 - Ok.... Gothic/industrial? Or anything that ISN'T mainstream??
Any punk or sub genres of? crust, anarcho, peace, oi, hardcore, street.. any of those?? Any neo folk or post-punk? Joy Division or Death In June? If you have anything that I've described/mentioned, then I'll stand corrected.
I prefer Thompson Twins over Jazz although I like Jazz.
Yo at 1:05:50 I Spit my coffee out
enthusiasts, fanatics' !
I think when you are depressive it makes no difference if you collect records or not. Maybe it is a sign of compensation but other depressed person compensates with a different thing, does not have to be collecting. I collect records now but collected other stuff before and I am not depressive, never been in my live and my wife did not like what I collected before ( tobacco pipes) but likes what I collect now, so I had both and it did not make any difference to me.
16:55 me in a nutshell
1:05:42 hahaha and 21:57
What hath thou brought us now Dr. Bringdown?... Lets all take ourselves out of the moment and waste our precious time examining other people's behaviour shall we... I think not.
Yea we shall, it's cool and fun
Steve Earle?