I just love the no frills minimalist approach of your reviews with white background and clear crip voice with clean close up of the hardware! It is actually very calming to watch. I am really tired of unnecessary b rolls with background filled with unnecessary distractions and what not on other RUclips channels.
Finally we start seeing the RK35 series! I'm going to keep waiting for the RK3588 devices to start investing on the platform, but man this is looking good!
@Garrus Vakarian This one is just a placeholder or something like "My First ARM SBC" for those who don't already have one. I am definitely waiting for those based on RK3588 and perhaps Allwinner A200, as Qualcomm seems to be firmly counting on Windows on ARM. Maybe we can even expect some new Mediatek or Amlogic SoC that is usable outside of Android/Windows machines next year.
Really excited with how these are progressing and more companies popping up on the market! Awesome videos as always thanks for the inspiration to start making videos
Very cool. The same CPU will be used in Pine Quartz64 but they are still developing Linux drivers for it. This puppy will be powering the future Pinephone 2 and Pinetab 2! I guess this board will benefit from Pine's work as well.
my dream SBC is basically a jetson-style raspberry pi. Basically, dual CSI camera with fast video input for dual 1080p/60 video streams so that i can use it as a stereo AR headset. Great for robotic projects too, which is what I wish raspberry focused more on, rather than desktop use
I'm excited, this looks like the first decent Android board for building a 1080P (And maybe even 4K) virtual Pinball table out of. I'll get the 8GB model when it's out!
@Leonardo DaVinci if you acces it from your home network you will get full network/drive speed (whatever is faster) but from somewhere else you are stuck with the upload speed of where it is located. It takes a bit of work to run a nas
Weird, according to the upstreamed rk3568 dtsi, the SoC can definitely go 1.992Ghz (although fixed, no other opp table). Considering panfrost is already supporting G52, I guess in next one or two kernel releases there will be some usable upstream kernel releases for RK3568. Although it is still slower than existing RK3399 SoC.
Out of curiousity, why would you want to do that? Are these boards more powerful than the modern phone that was attached to that screen previously.... Not trying to be weird, just kinda boomerish and don't really understand the use case for these thingies.
@@jayjayhooksch1 well they (ebay and such) sell bare panels for phones cheap which intern you could make a handheld or other small device (projector, printer, app display etc.)
The form factor and IO are winners for me. Slow storage IO has really turned me off Pi at this point. M.2 whoa ho, you've got my attention. The flatter form factor is also useful for certain projects where the Pi is kinda chunky. I like it.
with growing support for arm devices on windows i would love to oneday see these little computers running x86 emulation and being a nice alternative to cheap PCs for budget solutions for older games (thinking half life 2, minecraft ect).
@@Hamabeach I would expect Blender to run decently on an ARM SoC with Cortex A76 and better. Of course you won't get the performance that you get with a modern x86 or Apple Silicon processor, but it won't be totally useless either. The ARM SoCs that are generally available aren't that great at running the kind of professional software like Blender. On my Orange Pi Win Plus I can't run it anymore, because the Allwinner A64 SoC with Mali 400 graphics doesn't support OpenGL (ES) 3.0. I could try it on my Nvidia Jetson Nano when I get a power supply for it, but that's different hardware with a discrete GPU.
Great video! Great news. I would like to know if for the RockChip chips (like this one) there is an emulator of games like Emuelec, Batocera, Recalbox, Retropíe, etc ... I searched the internet and didn't find it. If you can answer, I will be very grateful!
I did some DDGing, but I can't find any info on the firmware on this board and/or its general openness. What firmware is it using to boot? Coreboot or something custom?
So did you try installing Google Play Services and Google Play Store? Shouldn't be much different than installing Google Play on the Amazon Fire Tablets. I have the T-95 Max you used for Emuelec and it runs Real Racing 3 just fine. Reminder. It has the S905x3.
Are you saying that you cannot get the google playstore on this what so ever? Are you able to put One UI and run this like samsung DeX? Do you think it will ever be usable with the new ARM version of windows ever?
PLEASE PIN THIS: If you cannot run the official Google Play Services, try running MicroG! It's a quick sideload and it'll be enough to run most games and apps. It's not a store replacement, it's a Services replacement. I've been commenting this for a few videos and you never seem to even try it out :(
I'm interested on why there's such a huge difference in performance between this and the S905X3 on geekbench. If the latter is running at 2.0GHz an almost 50% performance difference seems way too high. Any chance you could show the detail scores? Maybe performance is better overall or maybe it's one test in particular because SoC differences.
androidpolicedotcom has a good tutorial on how to install all the google play services and store apps on almost any android device running almost any version of android os including android 11. You actually need to install 3 other google services apps before you can install the playstore.
I've had a few SBC boards and none of them is as reliable and bug free as the Rpi. I'm waiting for Pi5 which I'm sure will have an M.2 slot. New boards all have their share of problems. Mostly with software and drivers.
I can't help but think the RK3566 is a step backward. Rockchip's RK3399 from years ago beats it in almost every way. RK3566 has less CPU cores, clocked no faster, and half the GPU cores, though those cores are a newer revision. Also, the RK3399 has 4 PCIe lanes, while the RK3566 has only one.
Just say that RK3566 is a successor to the RK3288, while RK3588 is successor of RK3399. This should be compared to let say year 2017 base ASUS Tinker Board, as that was Rk3288 😆
Why don't they use a soc within a decent cpu like the cortex a76 or the x1? Why should we buy a soc with little cores only? We want big or big Little CPUs!
Just buy the Xiaomi Mi Box S 4k HDR android TV. It is like 49$ and even has Chromecast built-in. The chromecast alone is 60$. Just Google the Mi Box on youtube.
I agree,Android 11 is kind of shitty,for example the DraStic(NDS emulator) can't detect External SD card to locate the rom and you can't locate Android/obb anymore
I got a feeling this chip was designed to replace all those RK3326 chips and similar variants. The processor score and performance was shameful for a current generation chip.
I just love the no frills minimalist approach of your reviews with white background and clear crip voice with clean close up of the hardware! It is actually very calming to watch. I am really tired of unnecessary b rolls with background filled with unnecessary distractions and what not on other RUclips channels.
Finally we start seeing the RK35 series! I'm going to keep waiting for the RK3588 devices to start investing on the platform, but man this is looking good!
@Garrus Vakarian I know, but the RK chips are way better regarding open source drivers and open firmware. I don't care if we are "7 years behind".
@Garrus Vakarian
RK 3588 uses A76 cores tho
@Garrus Vakarian This one is just a placeholder or something like "My First ARM SBC" for those who don't already have one. I am definitely waiting for those based on RK3588 and perhaps Allwinner A200, as Qualcomm seems to be firmly counting on Windows on ARM.
Maybe we can even expect some new Mediatek or Amlogic SoC that is usable outside of Android/Windows machines next year.
Really excited with how these are progressing and more companies popping up on the market! Awesome videos as always thanks for the inspiration to start making videos
congratulations for almost 700k subs!
I haven't even finished watching your video. But thank you for uploading. Some of the items you've reviewed I've picked up. So thank you
As it has an IR receiver on board, I'd like to see Android TV running on this little device.
Very cool. The same CPU will be used in Pine Quartz64 but they are still developing Linux drivers for it. This puppy will be powering the future Pinephone 2 and Pinetab 2! I guess this board will benefit from Pine's work as well.
I subscribed for this kind of videos ! Sbc ftw !
1:20 that HDMI port looks so happy
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That Ethernet port next to it looks nonplussed.
my dream SBC is basically a jetson-style raspberry pi. Basically, dual CSI camera with fast video input for dual 1080p/60 video streams so that i can use it as a stereo AR headset. Great for robotic projects too, which is what I wish raspberry focused more on, rather than desktop use
I always enjoyed each video on this channel, thanks!
Tbh using RUclips Vanced is really good for background playback,ad-free and Sponsor Block feature. Tho at 6:54 thats Nice number
Yup I'm using and it's great
Writing this through yt vanced 😈
It's cool to see SBC have M.2 slots now.
Wow! This new SBC looks interesting!
Price???
@@vikaspal2799 link in the description
Was it just me or did he not have the heatsink on the chip when he was showing the 4k playback?
There are many different "M.2" cards, such as A Key, B Key, E Key, M Key, A+E Key, and B+M Key.
This one appears to be M Key.
no
This one support 2242 M key NVME SSD
would be nice to try Cloud gaming with this little board
The small board works for setting up an android based multimedia device.
I'm excited, this looks like the first decent Android board for building a 1080P (And maybe even 4K) virtual Pinball table out of. I'll get the 8GB model when it's out!
Nice video ETA Prime
An Anbernic Retro Device with this configuration would be awesome.
there will be tons of rk3566 sbcs, just wait a bit.
Really would like to see a test with an m.2 gigabit ethernet card in this board! It would be perfect for a nas/router setup.
@Leonardo DaVinci network attached storage, basically your own cloud. Nas drives are meant for permanent operation
@Leonardo DaVinci if you acces it from your home network you will get full network/drive speed (whatever is faster) but from somewhere else you are stuck with the upload speed of where it is located. It takes a bit of work to run a nas
@Leonardo DaVinci that would be the end of my wisdom, sry. Id look up some yt vid and online articles for more info
lovin this new rk chip n i hope this means some really cool retro hand helds in the near future
Weird, according to the upstreamed rk3568 dtsi, the SoC can definitely go 1.992Ghz (although fixed, no other opp table).
Considering panfrost is already supporting G52, I guess in next one or two kernel releases there will be some usable upstream kernel releases for RK3568.
Although it is still slower than existing RK3399 SoC.
it has a MIPI DSI port. was just wondering if you could connect a cell phone screen to it? how many pins is that port?
Out of curiousity, why would you want to do that? Are these boards more powerful than the modern phone that was attached to that screen previously....
Not trying to be weird, just kinda boomerish and don't really understand the use case for these thingies.
@@jayjayhooksch1 well they (ebay and such) sell bare panels for phones cheap which intern you could make a handheld or other small device (projector, printer, app display etc.)
I wonder if it could run more tasking MAME like Dead or Alive, Tekken Tag, etc
Does Andtoid 10+ desktop mode works in this SBC?
Unfortunately no, I can never get it to work with these boards at least over the Built in HDMI. It’s actually the first thing I try on these.
@@ETAPRIME Thanks for answer! Then I'll use Armbian with better desktop experience for my old SBC.
hope they soon make a handheld emulation device with this Rk3566
When you do these benchmarks, is there any way you can keep a running chart comparing them? That would be great.. Thanks and keep these coming.
The form factor and IO are winners for me. Slow storage IO has really turned me off Pi at this point. M.2 whoa ho, you've got my attention. The flatter form factor is also useful for certain projects where the Pi is kinda chunky. I like it.
with growing support for arm devices on windows i would love to oneday see these little computers running x86 emulation and being a nice alternative to cheap PCs for budget solutions for older games (thinking half life 2, minecraft ect).
I am actually curious if they are powerful enough to replace computers for people who only use Linux and FOSS. Like how does Blender run on a Pi4?
@@Hamabeach I would expect Blender to run decently on an ARM SoC with Cortex A76 and better. Of course you won't get the performance that you get with a modern x86 or Apple Silicon processor, but it won't be totally useless either. The ARM SoCs that are generally available aren't that great at running the kind of professional software like Blender.
On my Orange Pi Win Plus I can't run it anymore, because the Allwinner A64 SoC with Mali 400 graphics doesn't support OpenGL (ES) 3.0. I could try it on my Nvidia Jetson Nano when I get a power supply for it, but that's different hardware with a discrete GPU.
@@psychicist I see. Thank you for your insights =D
Let me know how it goes with the Jetson and Evee
can you use shenmue for dreamcast emulation tests?
4:20 I was stumped...did he just called EMMC fast!?? Then I realized its not a phone video!
The ui is fast even on emmc phones though. Thats something more dependent on the cpu or gpu.
@@pmsajal Its fast...alright. But UFS is fastER.
Same problem as with the RockPro64. IR port is on the same side as the USB ports. If you are doing a home theater box, that is a poor location.
I have a question , it has all these apps ? or you were downloading a bunch of stuff in it?
10:31 actually need to test the s905x3 on Antutu v9 because the v9 is giving a high score on every chipset.
Great video! Great news. I would like to know if for the RockChip chips (like this one) there is an emulator of games like Emuelec, Batocera, Recalbox, Retropíe, etc ... I searched the internet and didn't find it. If you can answer, I will be very grateful!
Looks like a good media server.
It seems that since Android 10 the Google play store won't install. Wonder what's going on, it has me cautious about newer products.
So its a beefed up pi 3b+
Is that a soldered on clock battery?
Looks like it :(
HI ETA do you have any videos loading Retro stuff to a Radxa ROCK 3A 3568 ? shout out from Panama City Panama.
What you think about a sbc for just for nes and snes emulation I'm having a hard time picking
I did some DDGing, but I can't find any info on the firmware on this board and/or its general openness. What firmware is it using to boot? Coreboot or something custom?
Probably good for AmigaOS4 on new Qemu into Linux 🤔😎
So this board runs fine without a heatsink?
The new standard handheld SoC?
So did you try installing Google Play Services and Google Play Store? Shouldn't be much different than installing Google Play on the Amazon Fire Tablets. I have the T-95 Max you used for Emuelec and it runs Real Racing 3 just fine. Reminder. It has the S905x3.
is it genuine buy from there website. without cash on delivery?
(RK3566 CPU) - Rockchip (Founded 2001) Fuzhou, Fujian , China
What is the model of the monitor you have tested this. 4k HDR monitor?
Are you saying that you cannot get the google playstore on this what so ever?
Are you able to put One UI and run this like samsung DeX?
Do you think it will ever be usable with the new ARM version of windows ever?
PLEASE PIN THIS: If you cannot run the official Google Play Services, try running MicroG! It's a quick sideload and it'll be enough to run most games and apps. It's not a store replacement, it's a Services replacement. I've been commenting this for a few videos and you never seem to even try it out :(
This is cool
Is there any SBC with HDMI Input?
how about chrome OS? can it be installed in a board like this?
Can you test it with Parsec?
Wouldn't aurora store work?
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Someone should make a FlyBoy.... it'd be huge but hey, so is the PiBoy...
If you got a chance, do a video about new Qualcomm dev kit
6th Comment From Me. And Actually Its Realy Good Board.
Nice and thin perfect for making a tablet... Heatsink no...
I'm interested on why there's such a huge difference in performance between this and the S905X3 on geekbench. If the latter is running at 2.0GHz an almost 50% performance difference seems way too high. Any chance you could show the detail scores? Maybe performance is better overall or maybe it's one test in particular because SoC differences.
??? you can't get google play from a web browser on Android 11? why would they take the feature out?
could you explain how to install the batocera in this rk3566 i am not able to find the way to do it could you explain how we can do it thanks
Please do a vid when you put Ubuntu on it. Can Ubuntu run Android in a VM?
androidpolicedotcom has a good tutorial on how to install all the google play services and store apps on almost any android device running almost any version of android os including android 11. You actually need to install 3 other google services apps before you can install the playstore.
Does this board support OS boot on the nvme M.2?
Eagerly waiting for this video 👍👍
I've had a few SBC boards and none of them is as reliable and bug free as the Rpi.
I'm waiting for Pi5 which I'm sure will have an M.2 slot.
New boards all have their share of problems. Mostly with software and drivers.
Is this a better Android SBC than Orange Pi?
I can't help but think the RK3566 is a step backward. Rockchip's RK3399 from years ago beats it in almost every way. RK3566 has less CPU cores, clocked no faster, and half the GPU cores, though those cores are a newer revision. Also, the RK3399 has 4 PCIe lanes, while the RK3566 has only one.
RK3399 uses more power and costs three times more than RK3566... And it would require a bigger board. Those chips have completely different use cases.
Just say that RK3566 is a successor to the RK3288, while RK3588 is successor of RK3399.
This should be compared to let say year 2017 base ASUS Tinker Board, as that was Rk3288 😆
Why don't they use a soc within a decent cpu like the cortex a76 or the x1? Why should we buy a soc with little cores only? We want big or big Little CPUs!
Just buy the Xiaomi Mi Box S 4k HDR android TV. It is like 49$ and even has Chromecast built-in. The chromecast alone is 60$. Just Google the Mi Box on youtube.
is wifi inbuild ......can i give this to my father as a desktop as it has android in it ...?
Android? i need a dedicated OS for emulators, try please with Batocera Linux
Really disappointed that this thing only has a 32-bit memory interface. A 64-bit memory interface would help gaming performance tremendously.
If IT can run android why not installing a version that provides Playstore ?
Price?
US$65
Can it run Crysis?
Cost?
This version (4GB DDR4, 32GB emmc) is right now in stock, being sold at $95 (USD).
it's a real shame they don't have a case
жаль что не на русском (
так держать! контент годный!
I agree,Android 11 is kind of shitty,for example the DraStic(NDS emulator) can't detect External SD card to locate the rom and you can't locate Android/obb anymore
Drastic hasnt been updated for a year. Dolphin can access external storage.
I got a feeling this chip was designed to replace all those RK3326 chips and similar variants.
The processor score and performance was shameful for a current generation chip.
wow, that Antutu score is really really low...
That's like Samsung Galaxy s7 levels
@@Spolt_main s7 has 188k on antutu v8. And probably higher on v9, which is what this is on.
@@pmsajal well idk i just remember my s8 getting 180k
This would be a cool little plex box.... once plex supports ARM
Can it play ps3 games?
Couldn't you just install GAPPS?
Does it have root?
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Why cant you just enable third party installations in android, google "Playstore.apk" and install it like normal?
Again only ARM... we need cheap and AVAILABLE x86 x64 SBCs.. :(
This is basically what the new Anbernic windows handheld will use. They probably be charging north of $300 for it. I am ready to be disappointed
Screw this, where’s the RK3588???
try fortnite on this, though not officially supported, i think it could run now.
The 4K looks no better then my low resolution phone display 🤷♂️😆