I am Scottish but I have been to Ireland, my mum's side are Irish, and dated 2 Irish men. My ex-boyfriend used to go to alot of weddings and I never once saw anyone in a kilt. From what I have seen Kilt wearing is not common in Ireland. Most of the Irish men I knew had never wore a kilt but all the men in my family in Scotland own a kilt.
Ganseys/Guernseys have a 400+ year history and each family had its own cable design. That way, heaven forbid, if a ship went down, you'd be able to identify the bodies by their sweaters. They're workman's wear so traditionally, indigo navy is what the workmen would wear. White/Off-white clothing for children though was pretty universal as its easier to keep clean and easy to pass down when children outgrow them... so I think that's where the popularity of ecru came from. Sister Mountain has a brilliant blogpost about Ganseys if anyone is curious. She's a UK fiber artist.
@aran sweaters are not that auld. it was scottish women who taught them how to knit and then probably remained in aran. ganseys originated in the guernsey/jersey islands off the coast of england.
In terms of fisherman’s knit sweaters, my mother knitted me ecru, which I outgrew, charcoal and my favorite, black wool sweaters. I identify with the black sheep. 😁 They all look great with my kilts, particularly County Cork.
Greetings from Dublin, Ireland. Thank you for your entertaining and informative presentation. Something worth mentioning perhaps is that real woolen kilts, (mine is from Hector Russell in Edinburgh, Scotland) are very warm and comfortable to wear even in cold weather. I sometimes wear my kilt with woolen white hose and motorcyle-boots for a kind of 'alternative' even 'punk-rock' look. (I'm old enough to remember the 'punk-rock' scene in London in the late 1970s and tartan kilts and trews were hugely popular with early 'punks'...) I still often wear my kilt to music gigs and I'm always surprised and pleased at the amount of strangers who'll ask me about it, it's a cool way to meet new people! xx SF
During the Irish potato famines of the 19th century, many of the, (Catholic), Irish orphans, were sent to Lower Canada, (known now as the Province of Quebec). As Quebec was, and to a lesser extent now, a predominantly Catholic land. Most were adopted into Quebec Catholic families, and as a measure to hold onto their Irish heritage, kept their Irish family names. To this end, there have been many famous and notable French-Irish personalities, both political as well as artistic in Quebec society over the last century and a half. This continues to this day. Which is understandable when you take into account the characteristics of French and Irish Canadians. Creative, intelligent, passionate and strong-willed, (sometimes known as stubborn). Such is part of my cultural inheritance.
Love your commentaries and the history of the Irish Prince Charlie. and you are producing some lovely work. The book of Kells sporran looks a lovely piece of kit. You did mention the red deer as Irish, though as you mention the kilt hire industry in the 90's there were loads of red deer sporrans around in Scotland. My first sporran was exactly one of these red deer items. With you on the "other" colour hose. I have a lovely moss colour with mine as it goes with the orange flashes that match my tartan. I love my cable knit Arran in the winter, which is when I mostly kilt up. My favourite jacket is a moss Harris tweed bought on the Royal Mile. I don't wear the formal black anymore. You made me smile when you mentioned the badger (or brock as it's known in parts of England). I have seen Victorian pictures of these badger sporrans worn proudly. To me they look like they have just been scraped off the A9. I forgo the ghillie brogues and just wear some good stocky country brown brogues. If the occasion is more formal I will wear a good tweed waist coat (vest) with shirt and tie. I avoid doing double tartan with tie and kilt, I have tartan ties and pocket kerchiefs but I wear them with blazer and trousers. To mix it up I swapped my kilt belt out for a Harley buckle when I was riding them , now I have a Triumph one. Anything I wear, rings, T shirts, pins etc I am careful it has something to do with me. I don't have a Ferrari, so I will not wear a Ferrari T shirt (though I do have some Ferrari history). I have Viking heritage as does many in these British Isles, so Celtic is not the only source, I also spend a lot of time in Norway and they love plaid there too. The flat cap is one of the original safety helmets, as is the bobble hat for sailors.
Wexford Co. is apparently my actual tartan. Via a boat to the Caribbean and some surname tweakage probably in the early 1700s. (I'm not entirely certain I believe this but my friend from Cork was pretty adamant...) I think I want an arisaid...
My bagpipe teacher’s father started his storied piping career in Omagh, County Tyrone N Ireland, he became PM of “Black Raven” pipe band… eventually moving to Ontario Canada and teaching some of the big names up here.. Bob Worrall being just one, the mud men pipers Rob and Sandy as well
The Irish wore something called a Leine crioch that is often mistaken for the great kilt, bunched up around the waist and worn barelegged to the knees.
That was fun. I'm glad that Eric mentioned the "Mess Jacket" as I have been toying with having a variation of the Brian Boru and the Military Mess jacket made for formal wear. Never cared for the "Tail" on the PC or BB. The "Mess Jacket", even though it's an older design and is very close to a "Dinner Jacket" ( see Humphrey Bogart for "smart" ) it feels very contemporary, and dare I say Formal.
I've always been very intrigued by the development of the Brian Boru jacket. The aspects that really define the difference between a Brian Boru and a Prince Charlie are things like the buttons with very specific symbols on them, whereas either can have peaked or shawl lapels, and gauntlet or patch cuffs, yet most are just produced with one specific combination.
I wear an Irvine tartan. It is the closest tartan that I can find to old pictures of my ancestors tartans. Alas I have no surviving samples of my ancestors tartans.
Savannah, Georgia is often over looked in the Irish diaspora of the US. Most of us that we "brought" over through Savannah came during the colonial era.
Not sure how much rugby shirts are manufactured in ireland ,the main company is canterbury which is a New Zealand Company and they do the irish national team and provincial team jerseys.O' Neills are an irish sports company who are mostly associated with the GAA ,but they do rugby club jerseys now of course they are making masks.
There is a channel from clan mcgrath(ulster) one video describes irish medieval clothing and while kilts and aran sweaters weren't worn at the time the host said that tartan was for the the trews. Kilts were compulsory for male irish dancers in competitions until the 80s and early 90s after that the practice died out.
My family came to the US from Wales in the mid 19th century. While I love wearing my kilts when people ask me about Welsh kilts (cilts if you believe the Welsh Tartan Center) is there any historical background to support Welsh cilits?
There are Brehon descriptions of tartan dating back much further. The question relating to Irish Kilts is really: 'Did an Irishman ever think to cut a blanket in half and put a belt around it, and - if so - when?' Dunno.
Tk The native irish in the north of ireland actually have a strong link to the highland clans anyway whereas the scots protestant settlers were from scottish border reiver clans rather than the highland clans.
I love wearing my Irish national tartan kilt. The knotting on Irish sweaters rep family names too. I'm saving up for my sweater now. I wear a rampart lion buckle, because it matches my fam coat of arms. Combat boots! I don't have any trouble expressing my Irishness, thanks to the fact that it seems like they designed every cartoon leprechaun to look just like me.
As regards kilts in ireland,its not really a thing and apart from pipebands there is no unbroken tradition for example irish male dancers don't wear them and ironically the worldwide popularity of the irish dancing themed show riverdance killled it off since all the male dancers wore trousers in the show.
Under the statutes of Kilkenny in 1367, what is now known as the great highland bagpipe, what is now known as highland dress(kilts etc), the bodhran as a musical instrument and many things which were common among the Gaelic people of Ireland and Scotland became forbidden in Ireland . On another note why is Mr Mack permitted to wear his cap indoors?
Mark Christie The irish never wore kilts .The statutes of kilkenny banned the wearing of native irish dress by the anglo norman/english settlers , but that dress wasn't a kilt ,it was the leine croich ,brat and ionar jacket.Basically the statutes of kilkenny were to prevent the english settlers from adopting irish rather than aimed at the native irish themselves.Of course it didn't work and the english settlers pre reformation ,became so assimilated into the irish culture that they were called more irish than the irish themselves.I mean they banned hurling in kilkenny now the sport is a religion in kilkenny they play nothing else.
My last name is a slur. I don't hold anyone British responsible for it. "Troubles" as the nearest history... and water under the bridge. But fact is at certain points in history Great Britian stripped my ancestors of everything and shipped them to colonies as slaves and prisoners OWING a debt. So Im an Owings. I didnt experience it personally and generational trauma is goofy and nonsensical. But we have been still using and trying to pass down a Traveler version of Irish even now. But hard because even Im rusty and want as a Texan the kids to speak Spanish as well like their mother. But Im ramblin....Family farm in Texas has been a private family cemetery since the 1800s because we have to rebuild our heritage and connections to our history from a chalk board that was erased in an entirely remote location. I wouldnt say it isn't reinventing ourselves but in some ways left with to big of gaps not to. We were just transplanted and took family in as they arrived since around 1850s. We are Texans, Americans. Our daughter was born a ginger that can tan. I bought more shotguns and ammo because I used to be a teenage boy.😂 And she wants to know about her dad as much as her moms family that love her and she is a par t of. So we go to the Highland Games and I teach her as much as I can honestly about who she is as well as her father and what I definitely know and what is open to interpretation.
I’d heard once from a girl of Irish decent that a lot of Irish immigrants in various places found for a few reasons a need to downplay the Irish heritage thus her family name O’Shea became Shea
Ireland has 32 ceremonial counties most have county councils but many don't have any more like dublin which has been split into 4 administrative counties,the northern 6 counties are only ceremonial counties and although tipperary is a unitary admin county now 5 years ago it had to county councils.So there is not always a local government body to accept county tartans they are other non governmental bodies like the GAA and other sports/cultural bodies that still use the old county borders .Of course it doesn't really matter anyway and to be honest the county councils are a joke they are no way an equivalent to american state governments.
YES! *This* is how the pestilence became a worldwide pandemic so quickly, the lethal combination of poor 'Covid - hygiene', and the fact that, thanks to the ubiquity of modern 'hi - tech' - satellite uplinks, fibre optics, 4 and 5G, etc, Covid 19, while neither the first pandemic (cf. the Spanish Flu, for example), nor the first computer virus (eg. the 'I Love You' virus, Stuxxnet, etc.) it was the first bug spread by the internet (moreso even than by modern jet travel) to be both so deadly and so rapidly disseminated!
@dukethomas95.....lol the oldest kilted regiment in the world. no. saffron was actually worn in scotland before ireland but, it was only worn by the elite as it was too expensive for the ordinary jock. almost on a par with gold.
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Do you remember the IRA character in "The Quiet Man" wearing the blue kilted outfit?
I am Scottish but I have been to Ireland, my mum's side are Irish, and dated 2 Irish men. My ex-boyfriend used to go to alot of weddings and I never once saw anyone in a kilt. From what I have seen Kilt wearing is not common in Ireland. Most of the Irish men I knew had never wore a kilt but all the men in my family in Scotland own a kilt.
Irish wore the Lein-croch and not a kilt
1:23:55 - having a Celtic wallet is a great idea! - it will also serve as a reminder that you're a kilt wearer and why it's always empty ...
Love the show! It's Sham-Rocky! Indeed.
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Wakka-wakka!
Ganseys/Guernseys have a 400+ year history and each family had its own cable design. That way, heaven forbid, if a ship went down, you'd be able to identify the bodies by their sweaters. They're workman's wear so traditionally, indigo navy is what the workmen would wear. White/Off-white clothing for children though was pretty universal as its easier to keep clean and easy to pass down when children outgrow them... so I think that's where the popularity of ecru came from. Sister Mountain has a brilliant blogpost about Ganseys if anyone is curious. She's a UK fiber artist.
@aran sweaters are not that auld. it was scottish women who taught them how to knit and then probably remained in aran. ganseys originated in the guernsey/jersey islands off the coast of england.
You make me want to wear the kilt daily. 🤣🥃
I lived in Co Cork in the late 90’s.
Maybe i should invest in a kilt with that tartan.
That IS one that we carry! www.usakilts.com/gallery/13-16-oz-wool/cork-6025
In terms of fisherman’s knit sweaters, my mother knitted me ecru, which I outgrew, charcoal and my favorite, black wool sweaters. I identify with the black sheep. 😁 They all look great with my kilts, particularly County Cork.
Greetings from Dublin, Ireland. Thank you for your entertaining and informative presentation. Something worth mentioning perhaps is that real woolen kilts, (mine is from Hector Russell in Edinburgh, Scotland) are very warm and comfortable to wear even in cold weather. I sometimes wear my kilt with woolen white hose and motorcyle-boots for a kind of 'alternative' even 'punk-rock' look. (I'm old enough to remember the 'punk-rock' scene in London in the late 1970s and tartan kilts and trews were hugely popular with early 'punks'...) I still often wear my kilt to music gigs and I'm always surprised and pleased at the amount of strangers who'll ask me about it, it's a cool way to meet new people! xx SF
Excellent presentation of your Irish offerings, which are very beautiful. Hope to meet you at the store soon. Thank you !
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. - Gustav Mahler -
During the Irish potato famines of the 19th century, many of the, (Catholic), Irish orphans, were sent to Lower Canada, (known now as the Province of Quebec). As Quebec was, and to a lesser extent now, a predominantly Catholic land. Most were adopted into Quebec Catholic families, and as a measure to hold onto their Irish heritage, kept their Irish family names. To this end, there have been many famous and notable French-Irish personalities, both political as well as artistic in Quebec society over the last century and a half.
This continues to this day. Which is understandable when you take into account the characteristics of French and Irish Canadians. Creative, intelligent, passionate and strong-willed, (sometimes known as stubborn). Such is part of my cultural inheritance.
Omfg you've done Dropkick Murphys tartan? Please please please tell me this is available to the general public x
Albert Jenkin
What can you sa about Cornish tartans?
Love your commentaries and the history of the Irish Prince Charlie. and you are producing some lovely work. The book of Kells sporran looks a lovely piece of kit. You did mention the red deer as Irish, though as you mention the kilt hire industry in the 90's there were loads of red deer sporrans around in Scotland. My first sporran was exactly one of these red deer items. With you on the "other" colour hose. I have a lovely moss colour with mine as it goes with the orange flashes that match my tartan. I love my cable knit Arran in the winter, which is when I mostly kilt up. My favourite jacket is a moss Harris tweed bought on the Royal Mile. I don't wear the formal black anymore. You made me smile when you mentioned the badger (or brock as it's known in parts of England). I have seen Victorian pictures of these badger sporrans worn proudly. To me they look like they have just been scraped off the A9. I forgo the ghillie brogues and just wear some good stocky country brown brogues. If the occasion is more formal I will wear a good tweed waist coat (vest) with shirt and tie. I avoid doing double tartan with tie and kilt, I have tartan ties and pocket kerchiefs but I wear them with blazer and trousers. To mix it up I swapped my kilt belt out for a Harley buckle when I was riding them , now I have a Triumph one. Anything I wear, rings, T shirts, pins etc I am careful it has something to do with me. I don't have a Ferrari, so I will not wear a Ferrari T shirt (though I do have some Ferrari history). I have Viking heritage as does many in these British Isles, so Celtic is not the only source, I also spend a lot of time in Norway and they love plaid there too. The flat cap is one of the original safety helmets, as is the bobble hat for sailors.
The kilt is now Pan Celtic
Wexford Co. is apparently my actual tartan. Via a boat to the Caribbean and some surname tweakage probably in the early 1700s. (I'm not entirely certain I believe this but my friend from Cork was pretty adamant...) I think I want an arisaid...
My bagpipe teacher’s father started his storied piping career in Omagh, County Tyrone N Ireland, he became PM of “Black Raven” pipe band… eventually moving to Ontario Canada and teaching some of the big names up here.. Bob Worrall being just one, the mud men pipers Rob and Sandy as well
The Irish wore something called a Leine crioch that is often mistaken for the great kilt, bunched up around the waist and worn barelegged to the knees.
That was fun. I'm glad that Eric mentioned the "Mess Jacket" as I have been toying with having a variation of the Brian Boru and the Military Mess jacket made for formal wear. Never cared for the "Tail" on the PC or BB. The "Mess Jacket", even though it's an older design and is very close to a "Dinner Jacket" ( see Humphrey Bogart for "smart" ) it feels very contemporary, and dare I say Formal.
I've always been very intrigued by the development of the Brian Boru jacket. The aspects that really define the difference between a Brian Boru and a Prince Charlie are things like the buttons with very specific symbols on them, whereas either can have peaked or shawl lapels, and gauntlet or patch cuffs, yet most are just produced with one specific combination.
I'm so glad I found you guys, thankyou so much for sharing, answered so many of my own questions!
"Erin' Go Bragh"
I would love a Wexford Tartan kilt. My mother's family was from there.
love the flat cap, have one in leather for the rain
I was eye-balling those too!?!
I am Scottish, I live in Australia and never seen any Irish wear a kilt here, they mostly wear GAA sports shirts to show their heritage.
I wear an Irvine tartan. It is the closest tartan that I can find to old pictures of my ancestors tartans. Alas I have no surviving samples of my ancestors tartans.
Savannah, Georgia is often over looked in the Irish diaspora of the US. Most of us that we "brought" over through Savannah came during the colonial era.
Not sure how much rugby shirts are manufactured in ireland ,the main company is canterbury which is a New Zealand Company and they do the irish national team and provincial team jerseys.O' Neills are an irish sports company who are mostly associated with the GAA ,but they do rugby club jerseys now of course they are making masks.
Great comment by Erik that Irish County kilts are synonymous with universal. Always good to know what the "safe" options are
I live in newfoundland, a huge population is of Irish descent but there is very little Irish culture displayed or kilt wearing.
and people of Scottish descent, do you have a significant amount like Nova Scotia?
@@maximilianolimamoreira5002 not that I’m aware of and there aren’t many places hawking heritage wear.
There is a channel from clan mcgrath(ulster) one video describes irish medieval clothing and while kilts and aran sweaters weren't worn at the time the host said that tartan was for the the trews. Kilts were compulsory for male irish dancers in competitions until the 80s and early 90s after that the practice died out.
My family came to the US from Wales in the mid 19th century. While I love wearing my kilts when people ask me about Welsh kilts (cilts if you believe the Welsh Tartan Center) is there any historical background to support Welsh cilits?
There are Brehon descriptions of tartan dating back much further.
The question relating to Irish Kilts is really: 'Did an Irishman ever think to cut a blanket in half and put a belt around it, and - if so - when?'
Dunno.
If you stock rugby jerseys do you also stock GAA(Gaelic Athletic Association) county jerseys.
Does Wicklow county have a tartan? Bill
I live in co armagh and i will buy some of it for a kilt/kilted skirt
I want a casual kilt but you don't make it in the county Cavan tartan
Is it a mix of culture to wear a great kilt in an Irish tartan?
Can anyone tell me what the green tartan, second on the left at 15.30 is? Lovely tartan
I think it's County Armagh.
Scottish protestants settled in Ireland post Cromwell, so you can gave Irish people who have Scottish clan ties
Tk The native irish in the north of ireland actually have a strong link to the highland clans anyway whereas the scots protestant settlers were from scottish border reiver clans rather than the highland clans.
I love wearing my Irish national tartan kilt. The knotting on Irish sweaters rep family names too. I'm saving up for my sweater now. I wear a rampart lion buckle, because it matches my fam coat of arms. Combat boots! I don't have any trouble expressing my Irishness, thanks to the fact that it seems like they designed every cartoon leprechaun to look just like me.
Lion Rampant is the ROYAL SCOTTISH STANDARD MY FRIEND
@@amsodoneworkingnow1978 it is also the central piece of my family's coat of arms. I plan on adding the 3 stars to the buckle as well.
what about guys with white hair? Is there a compression sock for the kilt dress?
I don't think there is … but I think you can hide a compression sock *under* a kilt sock.
@@karlr750 Thank You for your responce.
As regards kilts in ireland,its not really a thing and apart from pipebands there is no unbroken tradition for example irish male dancers don't wear them and ironically the worldwide popularity of the irish dancing themed show riverdance killled it off since all the male dancers wore trousers in the show.
Under the statutes of Kilkenny in 1367, what is now known as the great highland bagpipe, what is now known as highland dress(kilts etc), the bodhran as a musical instrument and many things which were common among the Gaelic people of Ireland and Scotland became forbidden in Ireland . On another note why is Mr Mack permitted to wear his cap indoors?
Mark Christie The irish never wore kilts .The statutes of kilkenny banned the wearing of native irish dress by the anglo norman/english settlers , but that dress wasn't a kilt ,it was the leine croich ,brat and ionar jacket.Basically the statutes of kilkenny were to prevent the english settlers from adopting irish rather than aimed at the native irish themselves.Of course it didn't work and the english settlers pre reformation ,became so assimilated into the irish culture that they were called more irish than the irish themselves.I mean they banned hurling in kilkenny now the sport is a religion in kilkenny they play nothing else.
Historically is there a tartan for O'Bran/ Byrnes/wicklow county
My last name is a slur. I don't hold anyone British responsible for it. "Troubles" as the nearest history... and water under the bridge.
But fact is at certain points in history Great Britian stripped my ancestors of everything and shipped them to colonies as slaves and prisoners OWING a debt.
So Im an Owings. I didnt experience it personally and generational trauma is goofy and nonsensical.
But we have been still using and trying to pass down a Traveler version of Irish even now.
But hard because even Im rusty and want as a Texan the kids to speak Spanish as well like their mother.
But Im ramblin....Family farm in Texas has been a private family cemetery since the 1800s because we have to rebuild our heritage and connections to our history from a chalk board that was erased in an entirely remote location.
I wouldnt say it isn't reinventing ourselves but in some ways left with to big of gaps not to.
We were just transplanted and took family in as they arrived since around 1850s.
We are Texans, Americans.
Our daughter was born a ginger that can tan. I bought more shotguns and ammo because I used to be a teenage boy.😂
And she wants to know about her dad as much as her moms family that love her and she is a par
t of.
So we go to the Highland Games and I teach her as much as I can honestly about who she is as well as her father and what I definitely know and what is open to interpretation.
I wear my caubeen with my kilt.
🤣 GWAR 🤘
I’d heard once from a girl of Irish decent that a lot of Irish immigrants in various places found for a few reasons a need to downplay the Irish heritage thus her family name O’Shea became Shea
Did I miss a livestream?
No... this one was pre-recorded. :-) Though we DO have a livestream this Friday, March 1!
Rep. of Ireland has the Aran Knit for clan insignia
tk Thats a bit of an invention,but its a tradition now though.
Thought for brides....DON'T FECKIN DO IT
Ireland has 32 ceremonial counties most have county councils but many don't have any more like dublin which has been split into 4 administrative counties,the northern 6 counties are only ceremonial counties and although tipperary is a unitary admin county now 5 years ago it had to county councils.So there is not always a local government body to accept county tartans they are other non governmental bodies like the GAA and other sports/cultural bodies that still use the old county borders .Of course it doesn't really matter anyway and to be honest the county councils are a joke they are no way an equivalent to american state governments.
You are still coughing in your hand
Better than coughing into someone else's hand!
YES! *This* is how the pestilence became a worldwide pandemic so quickly, the lethal combination of poor 'Covid - hygiene', and the fact that, thanks to the ubiquity of modern 'hi - tech' - satellite uplinks, fibre optics, 4 and 5G, etc, Covid 19, while neither the first pandemic (cf. the Spanish Flu, for example), nor the first computer virus (eg. the 'I Love You' virus, Stuxxnet, etc.) it was the first bug spread by the internet (moreso even than by modern jet travel) to be both so deadly and so rapidly disseminated!
Fellas, cowboy is an Irish word the phrase comes from Ireland it self.
I heard the Irish brought the kilt to Scotland.
2 drunken Irishman make a bet that they could sell kilts to Scots.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Regiment_of_Canada. I know this vid is older but if it's not yet been posted....
@dukethomas95.....lol the oldest kilted regiment in the world. no. saffron was actually worn in scotland before ireland but, it was only worn by the elite as it was too expensive for the ordinary jock. almost on a par with gold.