There's a scene in the 2017 or 2018 production where Mischa says "just because I'm gangsta doesnt mean that I can't watch all 11 seasons of ru pauls drag race! Try to put me in a box and I will break out of that shit, huntys💅" It made my day so much better
I don’t think Noel was catfishing. I think he didn’t want Misca to find out because if he finds out that talia and him didn’t work out, that would have devasted him. I think he wanted to spare the heartbreak of finding out, basically thinking ignorance is bliss.
I think Talia was a catfish. At least come on, she really gives those vibes. Noel thought so and didn't want Mischa to be hurt. To have his last memory of love being heartbreak. Maybe Noel was even a victim of catfishing and knew it was better to spare him.
I always forget how cannon this ship is. THERE WAS A DISTINCT CHOICE TO HAVE THEM DANCE AT THE BEGINNING. I always am like, “oh it’s probably not true” and then I go back and watch it. Let me tell you, as a director, THERE IS NO WAY IN THIS DAMN EARTH THAT *THAT* WAS NOT MEANT TO BE A SHIP.
@@PrincessKenny34 YES! Talia gives such catfish vibes to me but its so much fluffier and nicer to imagine Mischa just calling her up and being "Yo you chill if I also go out with tragic dude over here"
I think what it is that really breaks my heart, is the fact that Talia canonically may not exist, so if they had survived the Cyclone accident, when Mischa eventually finds out, he and Noel could have ended up together in life. (All of this is of course ignoring the very possible fact that Noel was catfishing Mischa the whole time) It just hurts that the greatest possible love story was cut down in its youth, I weep just looking at it. Edit: I have since changed my opinion. I think I mostly just wanted them to get together somehow and went with the first fan theory that might have ultimately supported that…
@@tarosykes I dunno- that would feel so out of character for Noel. He's so sweet and loving, but wouldn't actually go out of his way to manipulate a dear friend into loving him.
For anyone wondering what Mischa says after Noel says “or kissed a man” at 5:08 ish means “you’re welcome (specifically in answer to thanks for food or refreshments)” it’s also often misused in America as a “cheers” or toast, so could also be that.
okay, I just need to point out this little detail bc I love it so much: during the birthday drinking scene, when mischa takes the drink back from noel the first time, he grabs it right above noel's hand instead of higher up or by the neck of the bottle. Even not as a ship, it's really sweet to me because it shows how comfortable mischa is with noel
it also. doesn’t really make sense. logistically. i think noel is more speaking to the Common Knowledge of catfishing online than he is to any of his specific actions.
Noel had a crush on Misha, I will die on this hill. Misha liked Noel back but also liked/loved Talia as well so ***conflict*** I will die on this hill as well. 3:11 Noel's little gasp oh my godd 3:13 **very confused Noel just holding Misha oh my God i ship it tbh** Noel: I want a man who will drive me to drink!! Misha: you called?? **holds up vodka** (I know this isn't what he meant by driving him to drink but STILL)
i choose to believe that after noel told micsha he "never even got to kiss a guy" and the focus turned to the others, they kissed. i will not take any disagreement.
whaaaaatttt yo just cause im all gangsta dont automatically make me homophobe, it's not cool to be homophobe in red game no more ever since Macklemore dropped Same Love, that shit was emotionally devastating yo
whaaaaatttt yo just cause im all gangsta dont automatically make me homophobe, it's not cool to be homophobe in red game no more ever since Macklemore dropped Same Love, that shit was emotionally devastating yo
yeah i totally agree and also i hc that talia in the photos is just the former ukrainian prime minister with some random model’s face attached with photoshop or something
@shopliftedtiara I don't know how much I can search through first and constantly have to check if it has something like "incorrect use of bullet wounds." 😭😭
I dont think Noel catfished Misha. I think he didn’t want Misha to know what happened because if he did and didn’t get to have a second chance, he would be sad that it didn’t happen. But its just my opinion :)
Headcanon: Their dancing in Fall Fair Suite is representative of their thoughts during the fall. Ocean is just still, thinking about all that happened and that she was right about being worried. Constance is spinning around on her own, like how she was the only one laughing, somehow enjoying the sensation. Ricky is alone, unable to move, possibly looking for where the other girl's scream is. (Since he would have been next to Penny.) Noel and Mischa were sitting together. I imagine they were reaching for one another, trying to find a sense of comfort in their last moments of life. Maybe even trying to protect one another, even though it did nothing. I picture the two of them holding on to one another until they hit the ground.
So technically in the opening number, Noel is leading Mischa when they’re dancing together. According to ballroom dancing standards, the lead’s left hand will lead the follower’s right hand. Idk if it was intentional (it looks like Mischa is trying to lead Noel when they’re spinning round and round) but there’s a little nugget I noticed
I’ve read a lot of comments about the theory of Noel being Talia, and, Idk, I think the theory is really harmful and so out of character for Noel. He’s not a bad person, and wouldn’t want to harm his friend like that, knowing how so in love he is with Talia. I think it’s exactly as he said, that Mischa has a longing and it’s better to keep it that way, since they didn’t know if he was coming back to life to meet Talia, if Talia was a catfish, or if it would’ve ended badly (Let’s remember he knows how a tragedy sounds like). Also, he said he planned to vote for him after hearing about Talia (the fist bump scene). Let’s say Mischa came back to life and Noel did not. If Noel was the catfish, Mischa would’ve been ghosted (literally), so it still doesn’t make sense he would say something like that? Even Kholby (Noel’s actor) said he hated that theory because it was problematic and didn’t really make sense.
My personal theory is that Talia is a real person, but there wasn’t really genuine love behind her messages. Mischa probably didn’t shut up about her to the choir, and Noel - being the romantic he is - saw it in an instant and Mischa was too blinded to see that. If he were to tell this to him though, Mischa would probably get mad and hate him.
As much as I love the ship, I do think that Mischa would want to stay loyal to Talia... At least until he accepts that he's not going to be reunited with her. Once they've been in the afterlife for a while I like to think he would eventually move on and indulge Noel in his fantasy of a hot on-again-off-again love affair
Ok so I’m pretty sure Natalia wasn’t real or was just a catfish and even if Mischa lived, they might not have even met irl. Which is why Noel didn’t want Mischa to see what would’ve happened if he’d met Natalia, because he didn’t want Mischa to be hurt.
While I don't think it's a cool theory, I'm not really on board. Noel seems to be more into the bad love in person kinda thing, so catfishing a softer relationship where he pretends to be a Ukrainian girl seems pretty out of character. I think the main reason for why he didn't want Mischa to find out about his future is Noel romanticizes the idea of a unknown longing, so finding out would go against that. I also think at this point he is kinda falling in love with him and got a bit jealous.
I need people to hear me out on the catfish theory because I have a scenario in my head where it could work if it was given a little while of a like forgiveness period or something like that like please hear me out 😭
It sounds crazy, but I feel like that was just the romantic in Noel telling Mischa what he of all people knows best. Sometimes it's better to live in a fantasy than to know the reality. Not cause he's faking it, but because he's been disappointed by his reality. Plus, I highly doubt that if Mischa and Talia speak *fluent* Ukrainian between one another that it could be Noel
he was just saying that he shouldn’t ruin it by (what he wanted mischa to think) thinking that he’d never get to see her again, it’s extremely out of character for noel to catfish as talia, plus he would have acted a bit weirder about the talia song than he did so
i doubt noel said that because he himself was catfishing, but rather bc he knew the chance that talia was a catfish and wanted to protect mischa from that reality
I just know the song nd not even a single part of the story 😭😭Who are this people Noel, Mischa and Natalie. Please someone explain, i wanna know tge story😭😭
Noel Gruber & Mischa Bachinski are members of the Uranium City Saskatchewan chamber choir who died in the Cyclone rollercoaster accident. Noel is the only gay man in a small rural high school while Mischa is an ukrainian "badboy". Natalia or Talia is Mischa's online fiancée who lives in Ukraine & is the reason Mischa was planning on moving back to Ukraine. Noel & Mischa are shipped due to dancing multiple times during the musical & them even making out during Noel's song "Noel's Lament"
It sounds crazy, but I feel like that was just the romantic in Noel telling Mischa what he of all people knows best. Sometimes it's better to live in a fantasy than to know the reality. Not cause he's faking it, but because he's been disappointed by his reality. Plus, I highly doubt that if Mischa and Talia speak *fluent* Ukrainian between one another that it could be Noel
Hi there my sonia Priscilla pantoja and on May 2nd I'm to Disneyland for my tia Diana's birthday 🎂 I hope you can wish my tia Diana happy birthday and also my birthday is on December 24th 🎉❤
"It is not good to be homophobe"
Wise words
Very wise words
Hoophobia rates drop to 0%
There's a scene in the 2017 or 2018 production where Mischa says "just because I'm gangsta doesnt mean that I can't watch all 11 seasons of ru pauls drag race! Try to put me in a box and I will break out of that shit, huntys💅"
It made my day so much better
Mischa may be gangster, but never homophobe 😌
🏳️🌈‼️
Noel before he sings: I want a man who would drive me to drink
Mischa later in the show: want a drink?
Hold up- ur right
Oh. My. God.
So so cute they’re boyfriends
OH MY GOD. *le gasp*
Not even want he just says "drink" and i love that
mischa is bi and you cannot convince me i’m wrong 🤭🤭
YES THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
Isn’t that already canon? I mean look at him, there’s no way he’s straight
@@Fluffydeathball FR
Mischa Talia and Noel are all in a poly relationship and you can fight with the wall
@@KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices but Noel’s gay…. 🗣🚪
I don't think Mischa expected to fall so in love, but who can resist Noel, the most romantic boy in town.
I didn't think falling in love with Talia without actually physically meeting her is very healthy. Might as well go for the healthier option
I’m the 666th liker… btw yes I agree, even I now wanna be Mischa as a female human lol
I don’t think Noel was catfishing. I think he didn’t want Misca to find out because if he finds out that talia and him didn’t work out, that would have devasted him. I think he wanted to spare the heartbreak of finding out, basically thinking ignorance is bliss.
Yes that’s exactly what they mean LMAO
I think Talia was a catfish. At least come on, she really gives those vibes. Noel thought so and didn't want Mischa to be hurt. To have his last memory of love being heartbreak.
Maybe Noel was even a victim of catfishing and knew it was better to spare him.
i love jane just vibing and doing whatever they're doing
she's so cute, she always seems so happy to be included lol
I always forget how cannon this ship is. THERE WAS A DISTINCT CHOICE TO HAVE THEM DANCE AT THE BEGINNING. I always am like, “oh it’s probably not true” and then I go back and watch it. Let me tell you, as a director, THERE IS NO WAY IN THIS DAMN EARTH THAT *THAT* WAS NOT MEANT TO BE A SHIP.
I headcannon Mischa as someone who doesn't mind polyamory. Cause I can totally imagine him going "I love my girlfriend... and my boyfriend Noel".
I’m so hearing you out on this
@@PrincessKenny34 YES! Talia gives such catfish vibes to me but its so much fluffier and nicer to imagine Mischa just calling her up and being "Yo you chill if I also go out with tragic dude over here"
I know this isn't the point of the video but Jane looks cute with the flower crown!
Ikr
Misha definitely gained feelings for nole
I think what it is that really breaks my heart, is the fact that Talia canonically may not exist, so if they had survived the Cyclone accident, when Mischa eventually finds out, he and Noel could have ended up together in life. (All of this is of course ignoring the very possible fact that Noel was catfishing Mischa the whole time) It just hurts that the greatest possible love story was cut down in its youth, I weep just looking at it.
Edit: I have since changed my opinion. I think I mostly just wanted them to get together somehow and went with the first fan theory that might have ultimately supported that…
Noel wasn't catfishing Mischa lol, Noel's too much of a romantic bad love type so him catfishing as a ukranian girl is very ooc for him
Talia could also be a codename for Noel as well, but it's just a fan theory
@@tarosykes I honestly looove that idea
@@tarosykes I dunno- that would feel so out of character for Noel. He's so sweet and loving, but wouldn't actually go out of his way to manipulate a dear friend into loving him.
@@CSSAMMYY_ this!!
For anyone wondering what Mischa says after Noel says “or kissed a man” at 5:08 ish means “you’re welcome (specifically in answer to thanks for food or refreshments)” it’s also often misused in America as a “cheers” or toast, so could also be that.
Thank you so much
Nazdarowia
на здоровье!
Nobody ever puts the moment where they headbang together during sugar cloud's flute solo D:
YES! I love that moment so much, them just having fun and being cute haha
or whatever the hell they were doing during space age bachlor man
I love that moment omg!
We dont even talk about that..@@angeljones965
@@angeljones965yess!!
okay, I just need to point out this little detail bc I love it so much: during the birthday drinking scene, when mischa takes the drink back from noel the first time, he grabs it right above noel's hand instead of higher up or by the neck of the bottle. Even not as a ship, it's really sweet to me because it shows how comfortable mischa is with noel
ngl i dont like the theory that noel is catfishing as talia… it has very bad/negative connotations on gay men and even transfem women ://
RHANK YOU I AGREE SO HARD
it also. doesn’t really make sense. logistically. i think noel is more speaking to the Common Knowledge of catfishing online than he is to any of his specific actions.
@@chompers9371 or my personal fav theory- Talia is a code name :)
@@BlueJay_125 yeee
THIS!!
Noel had a crush on Misha, I will die on this hill.
Misha liked Noel back but also liked/loved Talia as well so ***conflict*** I will die on this hill as well.
3:11 Noel's little gasp oh my godd
3:13 **very confused Noel just holding Misha oh my God i ship it tbh**
Noel: I want a man who will drive me to drink!!
Misha: you called?? **holds up vodka**
(I know this isn't what he meant by driving him to drink but STILL)
hes so polyamorous. he has two hands doesn't he?
I don’t think Noel catfished mishca I think Noel just realised Natalia probably wasn’t real and didn’t want him to be upset
Wdym Natalia wasn't real, I'm 100% real i promise 😅😂
100% agreed with you here. people are trying to dig for a deeper meaning, when this is most definitely all noel meant
She wasn't real. They met on a RUclips comment wall.
Who gets engaged with someone they meet on a RUclips comment wall.
100% Noel just wanted to protect Mischa. I even headcanon that Noel was catfished before and knew the pain.
the way they danced together is so mesmerizing
i choose to believe that after noel told micsha he "never even got to kiss a guy" and the focus turned to the others, they kissed. i will not take any disagreement.
I have decided this is Canon in my head now
Brb gotta go write a little oneshot of what was happening whenever the camera wasn't on them.
When they dance together it’s so cute ugh
ikr
told my mother about my new favorite musical, she wants to watch it, i changed my mind
Oh wait I told my mom this is my favorite musical too..... Oh man 😕
me and my mom watched it together and i could not stop cringing the entire time 🙁
Bro same
whaaaaatttt yo just cause im all gangsta dont automatically make me homophobe, it's not cool to be homophobe in red game no more ever since Macklemore dropped Same Love, that shit was emotionally devastating yo
whaaaaatttt yo just cause im all gangsta dont automatically make me homophobe, it's not cool to be homophobe in red game no more ever since Macklemore dropped Same Love, that shit was emotionally devastating yo
the drinking scene after birthday is my favorite
it's just so cute and wholesome
2:02 anyone else notice noel literally has on mischas hat?
I know this video is about Noel and Mischa but Constance at 0:34 was me during music at school 😂
I was jane lol. Just a background person singing the chorus
2:27
LOOK AT NOEL’S FACE HERE!! HES LIKE 😁
¨look at me i m physically weeping" proceeds to hug noel. i cant
nischa so canon (real)
5:19
I LITERALLY GASPED FROM HAPPINESS AT THIS OMG 😭😭
MISCHA AND NOEL ARE TOO ADORABLE HELPPPPP
0:43 i always laught at this part bc Noel slaps Mischa and then kisses him like gurl, you hate him or you love himw😭
0:11 how did i miss that one
I did too at first
I love them
I don't believe Noel is catfishing Mischa but I do believe that Talia is a catfish and is using another girl's photos
yeah i totally agree and also i hc that talia in the photos is just the former ukrainian prime minister with some random model’s face attached with photoshop or something
it is canon that noel has a crush on mish. i find that fascinating
Noel is genderfluid and Mischa is bi do not ry to prove me wrong
TRUE TRUE TEUE
I DONT WANNA MESS UP THE LIKE NUMBER FOR THIS COMMENT, BUT I AGREE
REAL
Ride the Cyclone is the best show
Yes
Yes
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
My wattpad acc hearing ocean say smut: 😳😳😳
i remember lemon and lime
@@sockglitter8497 omg them too 😂
ao3 better
@shopliftedtiara I don't know how much I can search through first and constantly have to check if it has something like "incorrect use of bullet wounds." 😭😭
Love that this was posted by someone named “badegg”
I dont think Noel catfished Misha. I think he didn’t want Misha to know what happened because if he did and didn’t get to have a second chance, he would be sad that it didn’t happen. But its just my opinion :)
i love them so much
Headcanon: Their dancing in Fall Fair Suite is representative of their thoughts during the fall. Ocean is just still, thinking about all that happened and that she was right about being worried. Constance is spinning around on her own, like how she was the only one laughing, somehow enjoying the sensation. Ricky is alone, unable to move, possibly looking for where the other girl's scream is. (Since he would have been next to Penny.)
Noel and Mischa were sitting together. I imagine they were reaching for one another, trying to find a sense of comfort in their last moments of life. Maybe even trying to protect one another, even though it did nothing. I picture the two of them holding on to one another until they hit the ground.
and now im crying
Nischa is cannon (I'm the vodka bottle, I know things)
goals tbh
God I live for ocean 💀
It’s borthday 😌
borfday 🎉
I love these 2 🥺🥺🥺
Help this came on my recommended when I was reading a Nischa fic
THEM
So technically in the opening number, Noel is leading Mischa when they’re dancing together. According to ballroom dancing standards, the lead’s left hand will lead the follower’s right hand. Idk if it was intentional (it looks like Mischa is trying to lead Noel when they’re spinning round and round) but there’s a little nugget I noticed
I’ve read a lot of comments about the theory of Noel being Talia, and, Idk, I think the theory is really harmful and so out of character for Noel. He’s not a bad person, and wouldn’t want to harm his friend like that, knowing how so in love he is with Talia. I think it’s exactly as he said, that Mischa has a longing and it’s better to keep it that way, since they didn’t know if he was coming back to life to meet Talia, if Talia was a catfish, or if it would’ve ended badly (Let’s remember he knows how a tragedy sounds like).
Also, he said he planned to vote for him after hearing about Talia (the fist bump scene). Let’s say Mischa came back to life and Noel did not. If Noel was the catfish, Mischa would’ve been ghosted (literally), so it still doesn’t make sense he would say something like that? Even Kholby (Noel’s actor) said he hated that theory because it was problematic and didn’t really make sense.
I've never watched a video for so many times in my life 😍
My personal theory is that Talia is a real person, but there wasn’t really genuine love behind her messages. Mischa probably didn’t shut up about her to the choir, and Noel - being the romantic he is - saw it in an instant and Mischa was too blinded to see that. If he were to tell this to him though, Mischa would probably get mad and hate him.
If you don't ship Noel and Misha.......why?
As much as I love the ship, I do think that Mischa would want to stay loyal to Talia... At least until he accepts that he's not going to be reunited with her. Once they've been in the afterlife for a while I like to think he would eventually move on and indulge Noel in his fantasy of a hot on-again-off-again love affair
I love this ship❤
Ok so I’m pretty sure Natalia wasn’t real or was just a catfish and even if Mischa lived, they might not have even met irl. Which is why Noel didn’t want Mischa to see what would’ve happened if he’d met Natalia, because he didn’t want Mischa to be hurt.
We can all agree on 2 things.
1. Mischa'S DEFINITELY bi.
2. Theres something between noel and mischa.
Have y’all seen the theory that Noel is catfishing Mischa as Talia?
It's 100% canon in my mind
I don't think so, Noel doesn't seem like the catfishing type. But Talia prob is a catfish...
Nah I doubt he would do that since noel loves romance and i doubt he would do something like that
@@kingjammm3500 Good way to put it
While I don't think it's a cool theory, I'm not really on board. Noel seems to be more into the bad love in person kinda thing, so catfishing a softer relationship where he pretends to be a Ukrainian girl seems pretty out of character. I think the main reason for why he didn't want Mischa to find out about his future is Noel romanticizes the idea of a unknown longing, so finding out would go against that. I also think at this point he is kinda falling in love with him and got a bit jealous.
THEM !!
I just imagine Noel freaking out and thinking that Mischa was going to kiss him 😭 at 3:01
I thought they would when I first watched it
Mischa throws his cap in This Song Is Awesome and Noel catches it and put it on and I thought that was sweet
0:29 NOOOO I'M JUST NOTICING THAT NOEL LOOKS SO SAD 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Mischa bi canon because yes
OK I LOVE THEM BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHO IS THE ACYOR PLAYING MISCHA HERE I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND OUT WHO IT IS ANYWHERE
Gus Halper!
@@cr8zygoodshot THANK U I AM IN LOVE WITH THEM
I need people to hear me out on the catfish theory because I have a scenario in my head where it could work if it was given a little while of a like forgiveness period or something like that like please hear me out 😭
same love by macklemore
OMG GUYS ITS MISCHA HE SAID HES QUIET WELL KNOWN ON THE RUclips AS BAD EGG
Does anyone have the audio from Mischa's other show?
I FINALLY FOUND MISCHAS YT CHANNEL LETS GO
Where the heck are people watching this??? I’ve been searching for this proshot everyone’s using in meme videos and I have no idea where to find it
I found it on here as a bootleg. I can’t remember what exactly it’s called tho
Same! I heard one got deleted, I've seen others say it got re-uploaded, but I can't find it anywhere ??
@@clovisandtheclover i really wanna find it
@@jackrosenfeld4713 same here
heres the link :) drive.google.com/file/d/1HIPzMKnp1kvf7AREGi7ZXwT-Tnls7MoC/view
I love ur Channel name
5:06 Mischa says you're welcome in Ukrainian.
yes
My friend had a theory that Talia is just Nole catfishing Misha and honestly I can see it especially with this scene 2:49
It sounds crazy, but I feel like that was just the romantic in Noel telling Mischa what he of all people knows best. Sometimes it's better to live in a fantasy than to know the reality. Not cause he's faking it, but because he's been disappointed by his reality. Plus, I highly doubt that if Mischa and Talia speak *fluent* Ukrainian between one another that it could be Noel
he was just saying that he shouldn’t ruin it by (what he wanted mischa to think) thinking that he’d never get to see her again, it’s extremely out of character for noel to catfish as talia, plus he would have acted a bit weirder about the talia song than he did so
i doubt noel said that because he himself was catfishing, but rather bc he knew the chance that talia was a catfish and wanted to protect mischa from that reality
1:58 HES SO FINE🤭🤭
Noescha
That wasn’t filled Mischa gave Noel his hat and Noel kept it on for the rest of the song
where can you watch ride the cyclone???
Its on you tube under 'ride the cyclone slime tutorial without borax' (for copyright reasons)
I just know the song nd not even a single part of the story 😭😭Who are this people Noel, Mischa and Natalie. Please someone explain, i wanna know tge story😭😭
Noel Gruber & Mischa Bachinski are members of the Uranium City Saskatchewan chamber choir who died in the Cyclone rollercoaster accident.
Noel is the only gay man in a small rural high school while Mischa is an ukrainian "badboy".
Natalia or Talia is Mischa's online fiancée who lives in Ukraine & is the reason Mischa was planning on moving back to Ukraine.
Noel & Mischa are shipped due to dancing multiple times during the musical & them even making out during Noel's song "Noel's Lament"
@@dihte1628 Thanks alot..!!!
They literally made out, ofc 😜😜
no one ever mentions this lmao
I have a theory that Noel was pretending to be talia because he was the one that stopped misca from learning the truth about her
It sounds crazy, but I feel like that was just the romantic in Noel telling Mischa what he of all people knows best. Sometimes it's better to live in a fantasy than to know the reality. Not cause he's faking it, but because he's been disappointed by his reality. Plus, I highly doubt that if Mischa and Talia speak *fluent* Ukrainian between one another that it could be Noel
where can i watch itt?
Is this his actual RUclips?
HI MICSHA ❤
HELO
IMG ITS BAD EGG IN ZE RUclips 😮
Hi there my sonia Priscilla pantoja and on May 2nd I'm to Disneyland for my tia Diana's birthday 🎂 I hope you can wish my tia Diana happy birthday and also my birthday is on December 24th 🎉❤
i think noel liked mischa, but mischas like the pretend gay friend
btw stop hating on talia just cause you believe in this ship
I’m not sure if you’re talking to me specifically, but I also like Mischa/Talia!
@@cr8zygoodshot no im not, its ive seen some comments like “yeah i hate talia”
@@notanemovampire oh yeah, it sucks to see that people are hating on Talia .. I wish we knew more about her
Yall hate Talia because she's getting in the way of your gay ship, I hate her cuz she's an obvious catfish 💀