Christian admits Isaiah 42 is about Medina | David & Tay, Emir

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  • @pasulaymanjeng9772
    @pasulaymanjeng9772 2 месяца назад +2

    Alhamdulilah for Islam May Allah swt bless you brother tay for exposing this clown 🤡

    • @Tay_SC
      @Tay_SC  2 месяца назад +1

      JazakAllahu Khayran bro! This video was actually from a long time ago. Didn’t know him well then and the two of us went for dinner alone after this. He was very chill out of the park, very polite outside. May Allah SWT guide him to Islam.

    • @pasulaymanjeng9772
      @pasulaymanjeng9772 2 месяца назад

      @@Tay_SC amen 🤲

  • @ruddin93
    @ruddin93 3 месяца назад +6

    Keep up the great work brother Tay. The other brother made valid points too. May ALLAH Subhaanahu wa ta'aala reward you both for your efforts in goodness. Aameen!

    • @Tay_SC
      @Tay_SC  3 месяца назад +2

      Yeah he was great mashaAllah. BarakAllahu feek akhi

    • @anthonysmith-m3w
      @anthonysmith-m3w 3 месяца назад

      Do you think allah reward you in hell?

  • @anthonysmith-m3w
    @anthonysmith-m3w 3 месяца назад +7

    Love how Muslims make up their verses as they go along.

  • @SpecificN
    @SpecificN 3 месяца назад +5

    This might be my new fav channel.

    • @Tay_SC
      @Tay_SC  3 месяца назад

      @@SpecificN Lovely to hear! May Allah SWT bless you, feel free to share your thoughts anytime.

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +1

      @@SpecificN same

  • @TheStr8Path
    @TheStr8Path 3 месяца назад +2

    Not just the Adhan, but The Quran itself is recited melodically. This is something he can’t deny. He also claimed that music, singing etc is forbidden (haram) in Islam. He is ignorant of what is actually forbidden. Only The type of music, singing that leads you away from the path of Allah. Listen to his claims and address them on the spot otherwise he will remain in error.
    Secondly on his point about the song sung when the prophet was arriving in Medina was to Mohammad and not to God, is irrelevant.
    If you read Isaiah 42 it says sing TO the Lord which is what they were doing. They were praising God for sending his prophet to them.
    Tala al-Badr Alayna
    O the white moon rose over us
    from the valley of Wada
    And we owe it to show gratefulness
    Where the call is to Allah
    O you who were raised amongst us
    Coming with a word to be obeyed
    You have brought to this city nobleness
    Welcome! Best caller to God’s way

  • @sayedira
    @sayedira 3 месяца назад +3

    It's kind of funny to see David stuttering in this conversation 🤭
    Well done, brother Tay 👏👍💪

    • @Tay_SC
      @Tay_SC  3 месяца назад

      Thank you! May Allah SWT bless you!

    • @sayedira
      @sayedira 3 месяца назад +1

      جزاك الله خيرا...
      May Allah SWT bless you too !

    • @raphaelfeneje486
      @raphaelfeneje486 3 месяца назад

      @@sayedira David stutters because that's how he talks. He stammers

  • @mrdylanbrowder1620
    @mrdylanbrowder1620 2 месяца назад

    The greatest example pertaining to this subject is the first sound and recordings of space. The closet known sound, song, or noise was the Azdan. Imagine that!

  • @MARYAMHALIRU-j2s
    @MARYAMHALIRU-j2s 2 месяца назад +1

    Very clear but he reject it.Allah guide only those who want to be guided.

  • @Deen_AlHaqq
    @Deen_AlHaqq 2 месяца назад

    Akhi please provide evidence for the authenticity of "Tala' Al-Badr Alayna" song being sung when the prophet peace be upon him came to madinah. as far as i know, it's not authentic.

  • @rashidaquil5284
    @rashidaquil5284 3 месяца назад +3

    It is the song sung by people of medina to welcome the last prophet
    Mountains are in medina and they did sing a song

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +2

      @@rashidaquil5284 Ikr SubhanAllah
      I did shiver the 1st I recall it with this prophecy

  • @ryuusuk33
    @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +1

    Isaiah ch.30 v.9 to v.17 (=Q7:167-169/Q24:55)
    ¹⁴Isaiah ch.35 v.1 to v.5 (=Q5:15-16/Q:14:1-5/Q6:39/Q22:46/Sahih al-Bukhari 2125/desert & wilderness often refer to Arabia as a whole, further continuation linked with Isaiah 42)
    & v.10 (better explained thoroughly next in Isaiah 40)
    ¹⁵Isaiah ch.40 v.1 to v.3 (=prophecy fulfilled by the advent of Islam in which Muslims allowed jews to comeback to Jerusalem since the rule of the guided caliphate under the 2nd Caliph Umar Ibn al-Khattab RA onwards for a total period of approximately 1300 years under Muslims, in contrast to jews who ruled there before for only around 420 years in total)

  • @TalkingTalking-zg3gn
    @TalkingTalking-zg3gn 3 месяца назад +4

    A nice idea would be to say a new song meaning a new scripture that has never been recited before

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +1

      Exactly

    • @raphaelfeneje486
      @raphaelfeneje486 3 месяца назад

      LOL. Voilà the miracles of reinterpretation 😅

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +1

      @@raphaelfeneje486 try refuting it tho

    • @raphaelfeneje486
      @raphaelfeneje486 3 месяца назад

      @@ryuusuk33 I should try refuting what's not there?? LOL. Isa.42.10 Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof. So the new song is a new scripture, meaning everyone from the end of the earth will bring a new scripture. LOL. The miracles of reinterpretation. 💀

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +1

      @@raphaelfeneje486 🤦‍♂️

  • @ApologeticsFellowship12
    @ApologeticsFellowship12 3 месяца назад

    What would medina be doing in the Holy Bible?

    • @abumonjur3571
      @abumonjur3571 3 месяца назад +1

      read Isiah 42. ruclips.net/video/dQlulHHHerU/видео.html

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +1

      Guiding you to the seal of prophets

  • @MonsoonSynrem
    @MonsoonSynrem 3 месяца назад

    Because he is a Muslim that why he accepted Isaiah as medina

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +2

      Left guy isn't Muslim yet accepted it too

  • @Jesus-Yeshua-saves
    @Jesus-Yeshua-saves 3 месяца назад +1

    gentiles entering Gid's kingdom in isaiah 42 is fullfilled by jesus
    Act 10:44-46 Even as Peter was saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell upon all who were listening to the message. 45 The Jewish believers who came with Peter WERE AMAZED THAT THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT HAD BEEN POURED OUT ON GENTILES TOO. 46 For they heard them speaking in other tongues and praising God.
    Acts 11:17-18 if God gave them the same gift he gave us who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to think that I could stand in God’s way?”
    18 When they heard this, they had no further objections and praised God, saying, “So then, EVEN TO GENTILES GOD HAS GRANTED REPENTANCE THAT LEADS TO LIFE"

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Jesus-Yeshua-saves nope, even by the time of Muhammad ﷺ they're entering God's kingdom INSHA'ALLAH
      Like I said, you have no law to begin with & Jesus ﷺ in Matthew 15:24 said explicitly that he was sent only to the Israelites not the gentiles. Unlike Prophet Muhammad ﷺ
      + in both verses you quoted, it doesn't talk about any law in the first place. Irrelevant
      PS: the book of Acts is not even the words of the Prophets "allegedly" so why do I have to accept what it says about "prophecies" lol

    • @Jesus-Yeshua-saves
      @Jesus-Yeshua-saves 3 месяца назад

      @@ryuusuk33 no, jesus says he was sent for all the world verses below read
      Luke 24:45-48 Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. 46 He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, 47 AND REPENTANCE FOR THE FORGIVNESS OF SINS WILL BE PREACHED IN HIS NAME TO ALL NATIONS beginning at Jerusalem.
      John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
      John 12:47 If anyone hears my words and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world
      matthew 28:16-20 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore GO AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL NATIONS , baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

  • @ryuusuk33
    @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +1

    Isaiah 42 v.4 (Bring new "Law" to the gentiles. The word for "Law" used in hebrew is "Torah" which means teachings, instructions more specifically "the Mosaic Law", therefore, it refers to "Qur'an" more specifically "Shariaa" being brought up also to the gentiles this time by a *NEW LAW-GIVER like unto Moses* , even more emphasis coming in later verses) ,
    v.6 (Light to the gentiles=Q5:15-16/Q7:156-159/Q3:19-20/Q62:1-4/Q14:1-5/Q4:174-175/Q6:122/Q13:16/Q48:8-9) ,
    v.7 (Converts the nations i.e sent to whole mankind=Q3:19-20/Q62:1-4 + his coming leads to the end of an exile =Q7:156-159/Q5:15-16/Q:14:1-5/Q6:39/Q22:46/Q48:8-9/Sahih al-Bukhari 335/Sahih al-Bukhari 2125/Jami at-Tirmidhi 3617) ,
    v.10 (just like in the previous verse 4, New Song=New Scripture being recited or New Law i.e Qur'an & Shariaa=Sahih al-Bukhari 4981/Q5:48/Q26:196-197/Q48:8-9) ,
    v.11 (mentions his tribe lineage "Kedar" the 2nd son of Ishmael whom are Ishmaelites arabs/العرب المستعربة & location "mount Sela سلع" in Madina, KSA) ,
    v.13 (He will be a brave *Warrior-Prophet* that will triumph over his enemies=Sahih al-Bukhari 3042/Sahih al-Bukhari 4315/Sahih al-Bukhari 4316/Sahih Muslim 1776 a & b) ,
    v.17 (Turns back the idolaters i.e "Pagan Arabs" in utter shame=Q3:12-13/Q3:121-129/Q3:193-200/Q9:40-41/Sahih Bukhari 4276)

    • @Jesus-Yeshua-saves
      @Jesus-Yeshua-saves 3 месяца назад

      No it does not say mosaic law just that there wil be a law given for the gentiles . It's not saying mosaic law.
      This is fullfilled with jesus: Act 10:44-46 Even as Peter was saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell upon all who were listening to the message. 45 The Jewish believers who came with Peter WERE AMAZED THAT THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT HAD BEEN POURED OUT ON GENTILES TOO. 46 For they heard them speaking in other tongues and praising God.
      Acts 11:17-18 if God gave them the same gift he gave us who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to think that I could stand in God’s way?”
      18 When they heard this, they had no further objections and praised God, saying, “So then, EVEN TO GENTILES GOD HAS GRANTED REPENTANCE THAT LEADS TO LIFE"

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Jesus-Yeshua-saves it does say a law but what was the law back at Isaiah time? It's the Mosaic law
      And what law was given for the gentiles after the Mosaic law?? Bear in mind that you Christians don't have any law anymore
      Therefore, there's only one answer: it is the " *Shariaa* " of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ which made him a law-giver i.e the Prophet like unto moses ﷺ of Deut 18:15-22
      Like I said, you have no law to begin with & Jesus ﷺ in Matthew 15:24 said explicitly that he was sent only to the Israelites not the gentiles. Unlike Prophet Muhammad ﷺ
      + in both verses you quoted, it doesn't talk about any law in the first place. Irrelevant
      PS: the book of Acts is not even the words of the Prophets "allegedly" so why do I have to accept what it says about "prophecies" lol

    • @Jesus-Yeshua-saves
      @Jesus-Yeshua-saves 3 месяца назад

      @@ryuusuk33 isaiah 42 is a prophecy about the messiah and jesus cahnged the law in the gospels forget the lies you've been taught and respect the God that created you.

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Jesus-Yeshua-saves it's not about the Messiah in the least, Jesus followed the Mosaic Law, he changed nothing unlike the apostate Paul whose done all the dirty works
      Gospels came way later lmao
      I'm not a polytheistic pagan that worship a mango(d) like you

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Jesus-Yeshua-saves no lol bot
      it's not about the Messiah in the least, Jesus followed the Mosaic Law, he changed nothing unlike the apostate Paul whose done all the dirty works
      Gospels came way later lmao
      I'm not a polytheistic pagan than worship a mango(d) like you

  • @armourofgod6310
    @armourofgod6310 2 месяца назад +1

    Have you not read any of Isiah at all?
    MY SERVANT
    “Listen, islands, to me. Listen, you peoples, from afar: YAHWEH has called me from the womb; from the inside of my mother he has mentioned my name. He has made my mouth like a sharp sword. He has hidden me in the shadow of his hand. He has made me a polished shaft. He has kept me close in his quiver. He said to me, ‘You are MY SEVANT; ISRAEL, in whom I will be glorified.’” Isaiah 49:1-3
    The SERVANT here is called ISRAEL, not because he happens to be the nation, but because he is an INDIVIDUAL Israelite who represents and saves the nation. Now WHO can that be that comes FROM ISRAEL and saves his nation? The MESSIAH that is who. Your Allah is not even the same god as our. Did Allah forget his name? It says ''YAHWEH has called me from the womb''
    Allah is NOT Yahweh.

  • @raphaelfeneje486
    @raphaelfeneje486 3 месяца назад +1

    Still waiting for where he said Isaiah 42 is about Medina. Without lies, Islam dies!

    • @Tay_SC
      @Tay_SC  3 месяца назад +2

      @@raphaelfeneje486 ^ tell me you haven’t watched the video without telling me you haven’t watched the video

    • @raphaelfeneje486
      @raphaelfeneje486 3 месяца назад

      @@Tay_SC Dude literally was refuting you in the same verse. You're trying to hold on to "song" as a point. He literally said the song was sang towards Muhammad, not God. That goes against the verse, secondly he was using "Medina" as a way to stress his point that people will sing as far as that Kedar. There's no Medina in the verse.

    • @Tay_SC
      @Tay_SC  3 месяца назад +2

      @@raphaelfeneje486 He was not using Medina to simply stress the point. He was agreeing that the verse is referring to Medina, but his interpretation was that Christian songs will even be sung as far as the mountains bordering the City of Medina.

    • @raphaelfeneje486
      @raphaelfeneje486 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Tay_SC There's no Medina in that verse and from what I heard him say that's what I've articulated. Plus the verse doesn't help your case. It says they'll sing the song of YHWH, calling his name, not Muhammad. Already refutes your position. Kedar isn't Medina. Look for a better argument rather than a bit by bit verses to support you. I can do so with your Qu'ran but you'll cry foul and call me dishonest.

  • @anthonysmith-m3w
    @anthonysmith-m3w 3 месяца назад

    Omg Tay is your point that as some point some Muslims sang. Wow

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +2

      Yup they literally were rejoicing & shouting from the mountaintop of mount Sela!

  • @The_King_of_Sweat
    @The_King_of_Sweat 3 месяца назад

    Lol, he didn't admit that isaiah 42 was about medina. Stop misleading people.

  • @bronjo9343
    @bronjo9343 3 месяца назад

    Tay, What you need to is make videos answering all the allegations against Quran and The prophet made by atheists and Christians. That way You can defend Islam in a more detailed way.
    These kind of videos only increase confusion and false confidence for muslims.

    • @Tay_SC
      @Tay_SC  3 месяца назад +3

      That topic is something I’m very passionate about. I’ve got a busy few weeks ahead of me but InshaAllah there will be some videos coming out on those topics too dw. I can’t fully control what discussions are raised in speakers corner ofc, but I had been uploading a lot of videos from there recently first.

  • @CaptainChristianZ1818
    @CaptainChristianZ1818 3 месяца назад +4

    Without lies, islam dies.

    • @Tay_SC
      @Tay_SC  3 месяца назад

      What’s the lie here?

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +3

      @@CaptainChristianZ1818 without lies Islam thrives

    • @CaptainChristianZ1818
      @CaptainChristianZ1818 3 месяца назад

      @@ryuusuk33 Your 1 uncreated perfectly preserved dot for dot letter for lettter quran lie told for decades and now exposed to be a lie? 37 qurans are still in existence today with thousands of differences.
      Like this video, has to go to the bible to prove islam is true, yet claim the bible is corrupt?
      Everywhere, muslims are leaving islam. The lies are exposed. 😂😂

    • @CaptainChristianZ1818
      @CaptainChristianZ1818 3 месяца назад

      @@ryuusuk33 keep lying to yourself 🤣
      Even with lies, islam still dies.

  • @knowyurrul
    @knowyurrul 2 месяца назад

    You love making things up. Lol

  • @ryuusuk33
    @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +2

    『¹⁶Isaiah ch.42 all whole entirety of the chapter but especially starting from v.1 (translation of "Whom I uphold" in the dead sea scrolls mentioned his name "Ahmad" in hebrew letters: "אחמד" =Behold my servant AHMAD.. he will bring forth justice to the Gentiles. All of the above =Q7:156-159/Q5:15-16/Q48:8-9/Q61:6/Q3:19-20/Q62:1-4/Q14:1-5/Q17:1/Q18:1/Q25:1/Q57:9 & Sahih al-Bukhari 335/Sahih al-Bukhari 4896
    also "My Chosen One" in arabic: "Mukhtari مختاري" , "Al-Mukhtar المختار" , "Al-Mustafa المصطفى" which are literally his most famous names) ,
    v.2 (He relies on God i.e "The one who relies on God" in arabic: "Al-Mutawakil المتوكل" which is one of the nicknames of prophet Muhammad pbuh=Sahih Bukhari 2125 & Sahih Bukhari 4838 which both consist of a close companion giving a summary of Isaiah 42 prophecy + Q48:8-9/Sahih al-Bukhari 335
    ..Same with: He won’t shout, or raise his voice, or make it heard in the street=Q17:110/Q25:7/Q25:20/Sahih Bukhari 2125 & Sahih Bukhari 4838/Q7:156-159/Q48:8-9/Q3:159/Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 247/Jami' at-Tirmidhi 3617)

    • @Tay_SC
      @Tay_SC  3 месяца назад +1

      MashaAllah. I talked about some of these points with him in the full discussion.

    • @Jesus-Yeshua-saves
      @Jesus-Yeshua-saves 3 месяца назад

      There is no ahmad in the dead sea scrolls for isaiah 42 this is just an other lie. give the verse you are referring to.

    • @ryuusuk33
      @ryuusuk33 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Jesus-Yeshua-saves this ahmad point of verse 1 is kind of debatable but still worth mentioning because it could be a scribal error to change it from ahmad (intentionally or unintentionally..)
      But you definitely can't argue with the other evidences presented after that
      It's overwhelmingly explicit

    • @Jesus-Yeshua-saves
      @Jesus-Yeshua-saves 3 месяца назад

      @@ryuusuk33 isaiah 42 talks about kedar , kedar in biblical time was a region/an area located at the north west of saudi arabia , medina in at the south not the same location.

    • @Jesus-Yeshua-saves
      @Jesus-Yeshua-saves 3 месяца назад +1

      @@ryuusuk33 And no there is no ahmad in the dead sea scrolls i've seen this lie on other muslims channels. It's a lie.