I'm new to D Dorian being in the key of C. I thought it was the Dorian pattern of half and whole steps in the key of D. Regardless that you used a trick to derive it from C. ?
It's not a "trick" The D Dorian mode is DEFGABCD. these are the same notes from the key of C major. CDEFGABC. No sharps, no flats. The D Dorian mode is an inversion of those same tones. The major scale pattern is WWHWWWH. the Dorian mode is WHWWWHW. Just one bump to the right. E Phrygian is also the key of C. EFGABCDE. Then F Lydian, G mixolydian, A Aeolian, B Locrian.
Thanks for the reply. Yes,i know how it's derived but if the bassist and keyboard is playing in the key of E and I want to sound Phrygian I'm not going to derive a scale from E. The key the band is in. I'm going to play all the white keys starting on E. So fit C major(ionian) into that? Or give me an epiphany 🤪
If you're playing c major over chords from the key of e minor, it's going to sound like e phrygian regardless of the starting tone. You don't have to start on an E note for it to be e Phrygian sounding, you're still playing c major over an E minor progression.
@@ZachAdkinsGuitar lets say you're playing over C Major - Dorian being a slightly minor sounding mode I suppose for D Dorian you'd target D, F, and A for example?
D Dorian is C major, so if you're resolving on a c chord, picking those d f or a tones are gonna give you a suspended sound, not a resolved sound. I would think of it as you're playing in the d Dorian position on the neck. The only time the d Dorian mode becomes relevant (or any mode for that matter) is when you are playing non-diatonic. Meaning, you're in the key of D minor, but borrow notes from the D Dorian mode
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I'm new to D Dorian being in the key of C.
I thought it was the Dorian pattern of half and whole steps in the key of D.
Regardless that you used a trick to derive it from C.
?
It's not a "trick"
The D Dorian mode is DEFGABCD. these are the same notes from the key of C major. CDEFGABC.
No sharps, no flats. The D Dorian mode is an inversion of those same tones. The major scale pattern is WWHWWWH. the Dorian mode is WHWWWHW. Just one bump to the right.
E Phrygian is also the key of C. EFGABCDE. Then F Lydian, G mixolydian, A Aeolian, B Locrian.
Thanks for the reply.
Yes,i know how it's derived but if the bassist and keyboard is playing in the key of E and I want to sound Phrygian I'm not going to derive a scale from E. The key the band is in. I'm going to play all the white keys starting on E.
So fit C major(ionian) into that?
Or give me an epiphany 🤪
If you're playing c major over chords from the key of e minor, it's going to sound like e phrygian regardless of the starting tone. You don't have to start on an E note for it to be e Phrygian sounding, you're still playing c major over an E minor progression.
What are the target notes for dorian and phrygian?
Depends on the cords in the background
@@ZachAdkinsGuitar lets say you're playing over C Major - Dorian being a slightly minor sounding mode I suppose for D Dorian you'd target D, F, and A for example?
D Dorian is C major, so if you're resolving on a c chord, picking those d f or a tones are gonna give you a suspended sound, not a resolved sound. I would think of it as you're playing in the d Dorian position on the neck.
The only time the d Dorian mode becomes relevant (or any mode for that matter) is when you are playing non-diatonic. Meaning, you're in the key of D minor, but borrow notes from the D Dorian mode
@ZachAdkinsGuitar ah right so you would play D Dorian over Dm rather than its relative Ionion mode, got it
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