I always liked when the commander read off the names of the ships that were destroyed if u save the council. It makes a very clear message that u understand full well the weight of ur decision, and u regret the losses suffered, but did so for a greater cause and honor those who died. Honor, something that reporter needs to learn about.
Think that's the kind of thing people keep in their heads all the time? I don't. In my fic, I have my Engineer/Infiltrator Shepard fitted with a neural implant that uses an onboard VI (like SIRI or Google Assistant, but running on *local* bloodstream DCE.) It puts these relevant facts on his ARO so he can see and read them aloud to her because it's listening in on the conversations he's having, and keeps him well-informed. It's unusual because it was the result of an accident when he was 13, and he had been tinkering with it as he lived with it. I hope NeuraLink will offer some functionality like that when it becomes more broadly commercialised. (VI - Virtual Intelligence, DCE - Distributed Computing Environment, ARO - Augmented Reality Overlay)
@@stevejordan7275 People don't sacrifice over a thousand humans to save ten thousand Humans/Aliens all the time. This sort of decision would weigh extremely heavily, Shepard would of had multiple night possibly going over every ship that he sentenced to destruction. that sort of thing is incomprehensible to us because none of us have ever had to make such a massive decision. Even the strongest of us mentally would have sleepless nights over the amount of lives we sacrificed for the "Greater Good"
Apparently after the punch in ME2 she started to train a little boxing. But well, in ME3 if you don't do the renegade click after she dodged the punch, she manages to knock you down with an uppercut, so it's not so bad, in a way it's satisfying that she's that rude and debuts the blows.
Really love the little things they put in this game. Makes the characters so believable. One random thing that I remember is when you punch the pyjak in tuchanka. Totally unnecessary but gave me a chuckle
I like to think when Shep said that he meant it in a way as "M'am the way I see it I trust these folks with my life. As far as I care there as human as me."
I think BW did that as a motivator to play the games. :D. Aria and the reporter all consistently have some of the top scores in the arcades as well as the arena. Lol
@@alekesam Well, I can believe Aria. She is a boss that wants to be on top AND she is a good fighter. Barla Von is talked about and people suspect cheating of scoreboard.
Being a bitch reporter who purposely does everything she can to piss off the people she's interviewing it's surprising that she doesn't learn how to fight a lot earlier. But I don't have that DLC so it's an interesting bit of news to me. :D
Yeah it's the first time she breaks out of her "journalist attack mode" and just behaves like a person reacting with real emotion. I was surprised to see it too
Dude, I almost cried... now I feel bad for all the times I put her on the canvas. _Ok, maybe not..._ but it's still heartbreaking to hear her break like that.
So all active duty officers are complete idiots with anger management issues? You don't want to let a journalist paint you as racist in the public eye. And you want even less to let her paint you as the villain and a violent thug. You punching her is her victory. She gets a scoop she wanted. She doesn't care how many low blows she must deal to provoke you and the public will never realize what made you angry. They just see you angry and to most people this is enough to judge you.
Always loved the paragon option in ME 2 if you saved the Council. I love Shepard's attitude and lines. Remembers all the ships lost, their crew sizes, and emphasizes that they should all be honored. By far one of my most memorable moments, personally
@@JosieJOK I go with the Renegade dialog in Mass Effect 2 (Since I like playing him as a Renegade who does shady stuff in the name of the greater good). It's basically Shepard stating that in war, sometimes you have to make heavy decisions for the sake of overall victory, and that both he, and all the crews lost to save the Council understood what they signed up for as soldiers of the Alliance. He emphasizes that choices like that, while he does make them, are not something he makes lightly, and that the dead men and women don't deserve to be remembered the way she's treating their memory: as a vain sacrifice. The reporter will also comment at the end that she got run over on her own show.
You forgot something. During the attempted cerberus coup de tat Al Jilani can be heard on the radio relaying Cerberus troop movements on public broadcast and bringing attention to the loss of C-sec coms.
There is also the elevator reports in ME1 that was missed in this video. For example if you took/ or mostly took the paragon path, you will hear the elevator news announcer say "Shepard demonstrated that under that helmet is a keen diplomatic mind."
@@feco91 Nah I never sleep with Allers, if you do then you don't get to fulfil any of the other romance paths, and my Shep always romances Yeoman Chambers.
honestly? as great as punching her is, I do legitimately like how the fully paragon path goes. it shows that she does start off being that usual reporter trying to twist anything, slowly just sort of...getting corrupted even further under the stress of everything going on, and how, in the end, she admits that she does actually support shepard and is glad they are around.
Glad others see it that way as well. The situation was dire and false pretense of comfort was gone. Underneath that pompous attitude she was petrified like everyone else. Shepherd's moment to act human to her let's her let her guard down and it's heartening to see her help you.
Honestly, I think Shepard takes her down much more effectively by keeping her/his cool and obliterating her argument with her/his words. Punching her is satisfying because she's actively trying to smear you, but it's actually what she wants you to do. Nothing she says could make Shepard seem like more of a bully than assaulting an unarmed civilian while wearing powerarmor.
@@anthonynorman7545 Combat armor in the ME universe includes actuators that enhance your physical strength, plus your hands are also coated in metal pieces. The combination of those two things means that punching someone without armor is way more dangerous to them than a typical punch would be.
The paragon interrupt in ME3 was a big highlight for me. I think it's a good representation of the power of radical compassion; Shepard reaches out a hand in a really dark time for her, and she acknowledged that, despite all their past grievances
@@kolosmenus Exactly! In fact she admits to getting owned on her own show when you go all Paragon on her in Mass Effect 2. And she becomes a war asset if you Paragon interrupt her in ME3.
It's not even satisfying in the *short-term* it's such as ass-hat action honestly, how many guys feel "tough" punching a woman and it wasnt like hitting the annoying Turian counselor for his crap for the previous 2 games.
@@magicalmagicmagician5223 that would be the description of 75% of the present media establishment. Does that mean we get to punch them in real life too?
@@Slayer398 are we a group of highly respected commanders and members of a elite police task force dedicated to fighting terrorism on a galactic level?
@@davidriley8316 Me either. Never have on any playthrough. I don't see the allure of a military person sucker punching a civilian, even if she is annoying.
I have never punched her. There are characters that are way more annoying than her (Udina, Sparatus until ME3, or the whole council, really, the Dalatrass ...). It's also quite cowardly of a military person like Shepard to punch a civilian.
Yeah, same here. Always thought the punch was more of a weird hidden responce you could take for hardcore renegades, untill I saw more and more peoples on forum/video responces and requests to punch (any) reporter during life playthroughs. Never thought her questions were to extreme either, tough questions maybe but thats mostly the journalist style I'm used too from reporters. And why waste precious war effort points (pre legendary edition) for a meme. Hitting a reporter on purpose by a militairy officer in real life would be a huge thing against freedom of the press so I never even could think of doing this (unless I wanted a pure renegade run).
You missed an opportunity to show the scene where a krogan gets annoyed with her camera and tosses her offscreen. So even if Shepard doesn't punch her, a Krogan will do it Edit: I forgot that a volus will ball tap her if you look hard enough
@@haunted-but-holy Paragon Shepard is honestly a master at problem solving and compassion, so I think he can legitimately be a good role model sometimes.
Feel like it's easier to avoid punching her in ME1 from a role play perspective due to the lack of a quicktime prompt. Because the "punching" option is listed on the dialogue wheel, it gives you a second to pause and think to yourself "Do I really want to punch a reporter in front of trillions of potential viewers?"
By punching her - you're basically letting her win. She got what she wanted. And I'm far too willful to just go along with something like that. If she wants me to punch her - you can be damn sure I never, ever do that no matter how much shit she vomits on me.
I always preferred to not punch her, not cause I played a mostly paragon Shep. It's just cause I liked bull-rushing her in ME2 and getting her to see my way for war assets in 3
The Paragon path in 3 is a nice bait and switch. You think you're in for another smear job, but for once she genuinely wants answers. The situation is dire indeed if it puts her and Shepard on the same page.
War Hero: I play along and at least TRY to be nice to the ambulance chaser. Sole Survivor: I'll dance circles around her until she looks like an idiot. Ruthless: I'll just knock her the !@#$ out.
In ME 3 I wasn't ready for that dodge the first time I played.. And she landed the hit on my shep... I felt so much shame I had to re load my save lol I can't let her land it
The greatest argument against free will can be found in mass effect. You can choose to not punch of the reporter. But you're going to anyways, aren't you?
I did once, before I knew the result of the interrupt. I thought it would just be a badass line 😅 But after that time, I actually find the dialogue options much more rewarding. Shows my FemShep is above such childish accusation games
The first time I played ME3, I chose the first renegade interrupt, thinking it was just gonna be the same thing as ME2 and sat back. I got so pissed when my Shepard got knocked flat that I loaded my last save, which was half an hour earlier, and made sure to pay attention this time
do one of conrad verner, i think a lot of people don't know q in the second game he has a mission, other than punching him, and in the third game he ends up being useful
@@YourCrazyDolphin It's worth 5 if you have the Asari Matriarch writings and the Elkoss Combine license from ME1. His mission in ME3 is a love letter to the completionists.
there is also paragon dialog with in me2 if you use a mod to fix the save issue which bioware for some reason never did. you would think bioware would have concentrated on important stuff for a remaster then removing butt shots.
I tried going full-renegade only once, too. I lasted all of half an hour lol. It turned into an Edge-Lord cringefest pretty damn quickly. Then again, the full-paragon approach is pretty cringey too though. In this series, it's like you can either be a self-righteous Virtue-Signaller, or a flat-out asshole. There didn't seem to be much in between. Then again, if you look at the target-audience, it's not hard to figure out why that's the case lol. Just look at the relationship options. Cause, y'know... Every well-adjusted adult *everywhere* wants to have one of those Hollywood-Method "relationships" in a *videogame* lol... Need I say more?
14:14 Fizhy (Mass Effect 3 is still gold): "Next we had to go to the Citadel, the only reason being to punch a Reporter in the face." "Never gets old."
@@msutter117 depending on your background, she pushed fake news on you so she deserves to be punched. She reminds me of a CNN reporter trying to smear Trump so whatever they smear him for.
@@ResidentRecon89 if someone put fake news out on me I’d show the actual story and leave it at that, jokes aside I tend to keep real life out of news from a game. Especially because yes she tries to get you to say pro human answers but what’s fun is it feels like a debate more than interview. I enjoy looking at it that way. Besides doing your job as reporter even if biased doesn’t deserve a violent response.
Great Video, Also, if you recruit her as a war asset, you can hear her during priority Citadel II before rescuing Valern where she gives update of the situation regarding Cerberus
I laughed so hard when he said “the council can kiss my ass.”😂 this whole video was funny! Never even knew you could even punch the reporter. I did pure paragon on my first play through. This was one of your best videos.
Comforting her might be the only Paragon interrupt I avoid. “Keep asking the hard questions.” We do need journalists that do that but.. that’s not what she does. She sets people up with leading questions to push an agenda she can sell.
I don't agree. She obviously had an opinion on the matters at hand and journalists are allowed to have opinions. Shepard had been made into what is essentially a black ops official for a foreign intergovernmental organization that humans were not a officially a part of in ME1. Harkin was the first human c-sec officer, we know how that ended. So humans could not just assume that you were good. She *should* ask the questions that were being asked by the average human so that you could give your take on them, even if you think those questions are not good questions.
@@thesystem5980 No but in all seriousness I can see this as a defense of her. I do think that it’s important for journalists to ask hard questions to keep militaries and black ops agents like Shepard on the right path. It’s a powerful and an important job. I just don’t think this _particular_ journalist does it well. She feels like she just chases tabloids in Mass Effect 1 and 2, and in 3 goes after Shepard because she’s angry. And you’re right, journalists are allowed to have opinions - everyone is - but it’s important to try to stay impartial in that profession. It’s like teaching: you can have an opinion, but your job is to present information as objectively as possible, so you do what you can to not let your students know what you personally feel and argue both sides. I don’t think she deserves the horror of losing her family and friends. But I don’t want to encourage her style of journalism. Then again… in a high-choice media environment, it’s important to have people who argue for a particular side so everyone has a voice. So it’s good there are Shepard’s like you who do encourage her.
@@JyujinPlus I just don’t think this particular journalist does it well. She feels like she just chases tabloids in Mass Effect 1 and 2, and in 3 ----- How? She isn't asking you any personal "celebrity gossip" questions or unimportant questions, she is asking you about your allegiances and your decisions, which are natural foreign policy concerns which the average human would have of a black ops person working for an IGO that their country is not a part of (who has also been given an important ship). Just because she has opinions about the facts does not mean she is a tabloid reporter. We don't even know if those are her actual opinions. They may very well be the questions that average people (some of whom are conspiracy theorists) would want to ask Shepard. It is important for Shepard to answer those questions, even if they may be uncharitable. Some reporters conduct interviews in that way and it's a good thing otherwise you will just get more conspiracy theorists creating the narrative. ----- And you’re right, journalists are allowed to have opinions - everyone is - but it’s important to try to stay impartial in that profession. It’s like teaching: you can have an opinion, but your job is to present information as objectively as possible, so you do what you can to not let your students know what you personally feel and argue both sides. ----- A journalist should have good facts and be rational, if those facts are consistent with a given conclusion , then being impartial is not rational or ethical. This is what she knows. 1: Shepard is unelected. 2: Shepard is a black ops person working for an organization the human government is not a part of. 3: Shepard was given an important ship by an admiral who was his superior officer. 4: Shepard has foreign nationals/aliens on this important ship. 5: There are conspiracy theories about what Shepard is currently doing (on Noveria, Feros, regarding Saren) which may or may not be true. 6: In ME2, Shepard makes a decision about the council which is controversial no matter what that decision is. Questions related to this have to be asked.How does one ask these questions in an impartial way, in your opinion? And if you go paragon and say nice things about the council, then your allegiances will naturally be in question. ----- But I don’t want to encourage her style of journalism. ------ What style? What kinds of questions would you think is ethical for a journalist to ask to black ops people working for IGO' s their government is not a part of?
@@thesystem5980 When I played my playthrough I never felt any real need to be violent and never found her particularly unpleasant in 1 and 3. Her ME2 "interview" is much more aggressive BUT I took it as "ok, I work for a terrorist organisation right now so she thinks I betrayed the Alliance I guess". I would never punch her ouside of my troll/evil playthroughs, even on my full renegade ones I do the renegade options or just walk away because I dont have time for that shit.
Newer understood why people punch her. Shepard's verbal smackdown is way more satisfying. Especially in ME2, when he starts listing all destroyed ships into her dumbfounded face.
I love NOT punching her because not only do you still own her verbally and get her as a war asset in ME3 but you also see a different side of her character, a more human side of her who just scared. I love that little bit of character development, you get more in that character development than in some movies based on the main characters.
i found this channel about 2 weeks ago and can not stop watching. i know/knew most of this stuff back in the day but with ME:LE it feels good to refresh on all the little side stuff that ive forgotten. i dont know how i found this channel but i glad i did.
She's an annoying reporter. We get spoiled with Emily Wong, and then this lady shows up making snide insinuations, disingenuous assertions, and tabloid journalism. Punching her is funny and doesn't really hurt you.
I actually never punched her in my main playthrough, I know that is ratings gold she deserves to be calmly shown up like the idiot she is instead. Also according to the Shadow Broker terminals she gets hit plenty without Shepard's help lol
:D I have a hard time not playing paragon so I always have that last response. It's so fun to see what would happen otherwise. Thank you for your channel!
Thanks dude, have not seen a lot of these and really happy I got to see paragon route. Actually want to do that next time. It was a sweet ending and I like it.
Thank you for doing this I didn't actually think it was possible to beat Saren, the Collectors or even the Reapers without punching the reporter. Also Shepard the entire time looked like he was holding it in and at any second will break and punch the reporter
I mean, yeah, for fuck’s sake, who are these M-Sheps punching women? I could see doing it once, out of curiosity, but if one does it again after watching him punching a woman, one has a problem.
When I first played ME3, when I got to the part where she dodged my punch and smacked back, that was genuinely one of the funniest jokes I'd ever seen in my life, it was pure gold. I just thought "Ha! Now I can punch her again!" But she ducked and hit back... it was SO unexpected. And COMPLETELY deserved because she never once hit Shepard first. It was Who ever thought of that should have gotten a raise. One of my favourite video game jokes of all time.
@@Scorpious187 I distinctly remember that same hairstyle with a left side parting in the original ME3. I’ve noticed it on other characters with this hairstyle too (Chakwas, for example).
Holy hell dude, you're right... Nice catch! I just found an old video of these scenes and her hair *is* flipped in the LE. ruclips.net/video/cenKx5hV9N4/видео.html starting around 2:40 in to confirm.
@@Scorpious187 Another thing I noticed; Chakwas' hair is "normal" in the opening cutscene of ME2. However, her position getting in the escape pod has changed. In the original, she's second from the end on the right (the love interest takes the end one after yelling "Everbody in. Go, go, go!"). Now, she's second from the end on the left.
Ok Big Dan. You have done something almost impossible, almost no one knew that this was even an option to not punch her in the face, but it was. Now I and everyone in the entirety of the mass effect community must ask you for one last sacrifice. Find out what happens if you actually select Udina as the first human councilor in mass effect 1. I know it must seem like an impossible task, but you are the only one that can get this done. 5 Fleet out
I really, really like the paragon route with her. It disarms here every time, and then at the end Shepard hears that panicked desperation in her voice and steps up to comfort her. Despite how she's treated him in the past, he's still a good man, and taking a final step forward is what firmly fixes that in her mind.
Damnit Dan. Why should I suffer this crap for 10 points? I always deck her asap. Jesus man. Making my life choices tough here. Have a good day. I'm gonna go think about what I've done to her pixels for years.
kinda wish we got to see the Intimidate options in me2, especially since Renegade Shepherds are much more likely to punch her vs Paragon Shepherds who'd always go for Charm.
17 minutes video about not punching a person in the face, I love Mass Effect
Lmao that's hilarious
The funny thing is you can see her get punched by a krogan on the shadow broker videos 😂
Thats why I dont punch her the krogen does it for me
She gets kicked by a Volus too
@@jamiexxi whare do I see this
@@john02222 shadow brokers place on the videos in the very back to the left I believe. You might have to leave and come back a few times to see it
by a krogan? fuck me why is she a reporter give her a gun she could sort the reaper shit out herself
'What happens when you DON'T punch the reporter?'
You restart the game
CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE
"you shouldn't punch Khalisah Bint Sinan al-Jilani"
but...but she's so punchable...
I'm doing a pure paragon playthrough, first time I didn't punched her ...
@@Akredi yeah I did para and rene and I still punched her many times
Yeah, make sure you have a recent save because I hate it when I zone out and miss the prompt to smack her…lol
Reporter: “We’ve never seen eye to eye.”
Shepard: “But we HAVE seen FIST to eye.”
Lol. Love it.
To violence against Kalisa, the ME community says YES
Ohhhhhhhhhhh!!!! 😮😮🤣🤣
Khalisah Al-Jalani: Disingenuous Assertions....
Shepard: So you've chosen haymakers.
I always liked when the commander read off the names of the ships that were destroyed if u save the council. It makes a very clear message that u understand full well the weight of ur decision, and u regret the losses suffered, but did so for a greater cause and honor those who died. Honor, something that reporter needs to learn about.
Yes that's what I choose
Think that's the kind of thing people keep in their heads all the time?
I don't.
In my fic, I have my Engineer/Infiltrator Shepard fitted with a neural implant that uses an onboard VI (like SIRI or Google Assistant, but running on *local* bloodstream DCE.)
It puts these relevant facts on his ARO so he can see and read them aloud to her because it's listening in on the conversations he's having, and keeps him well-informed.
It's unusual because it was the result of an accident when he was 13, and he had been tinkering with it as he lived with it.
I hope NeuraLink will offer some functionality like that when it becomes more broadly commercialised.
(VI - Virtual Intelligence, DCE - Distributed Computing Environment, ARO - Augmented Reality Overlay)
@@stevejordan7275 People don't sacrifice over a thousand humans to save ten thousand Humans/Aliens all the time. This sort of decision would weigh extremely heavily, Shepard would of had multiple night possibly going over every ship that he sentenced to destruction. that sort of thing is incomprehensible to us because none of us have ever had to make such a massive decision.
Even the strongest of us mentally would have sleepless nights over the amount of lives we sacrificed for the "Greater Good"
Yeah you basically turn into Ben Shapiro and DESTROY the reporter with FACTS and LOGIC.
It’s pretty great
@@SyntheticShinobi unless he's arguing with someone other than a college kid. Ben Shapiro is a tool
My favorite is in ME3 when she thinks she’s slick and dodges your punch, only to get head butted. 🤣🤣
Apparently after the punch in ME2 she started to train a little boxing. But well, in ME3 if you don't do the renegade click after she dodged the punch, she manages to knock you down with an uppercut, so it's not so bad, in a way it's satisfying that she's that rude and debuts the blows.
@@-18 Yeah that was a really nice scene. Caught me off guard and bang!
Sheppard Headbutt. Works on Krogans voiced by Mr. Worf and it works on anyone. It is like the roundhouse kick of Chuck Norris.
Really love the little things they put in this game. Makes the characters so believable. One random thing that I remember is when you punch the pyjak in tuchanka. Totally unnecessary but gave me a chuckle
If you watch the shadow broker videos, she gets hit by multiple people.
2:12 "...Last time I checked, I'm human. Same goes for my crew."
Garrus to Wrex: "Either we just got fired, or he needs better eye implants."
But he has special eyes.
I like to think when Shep said that he meant it in a way as "M'am the way I see it I trust these folks with my life. As far as I care there as human as me."
He probably meant the literal crew not his squad whose only job is to fight.
@@caninelupus8369 that could be true but I feel like shephard meant his squad due to how the reporter reacted.
Tali exists
I cant get over the fact that in the citadel DLC she is apparently one of the best fighters on the citadel by arena score.
Along with Mouse and Barla Von lmaoooo
I think BW did that as a motivator to play the games. :D. Aria and the reporter all consistently have some of the top scores in the arcades as well as the arena. Lol
@@alekesam Well, I can believe Aria. She is a boss that wants to be on top AND she is a good fighter. Barla Von is talked about and people suspect cheating of scoreboard.
Being a bitch reporter who purposely does everything she can to piss off the people she's interviewing it's surprising that she doesn't learn how to fight a lot earlier. But I don't have that DLC so it's an interesting bit of news to me. :D
@@WickedPrince3D She can actually knock over Shepard with one punch if hes not careful.
Ah yes, truly the rarest path in Mass Effect
Edit: It’s a joke you stooges lol
2nd only to not romacing tali
@@josephnowak6802 I never romanced Tali lol
@@farmboy2835 you poor poor soul
@@josephnowak6802 hahaha hey man idk whats under that helmet could be Predator for all I know haha
@@farmboy2835 You can see in me3 if you do...
Change in her voice when u hit paragon interrupt was really unexpected
Yeah it's the first time she breaks out of her "journalist attack mode" and just behaves like a person reacting with real emotion. I was surprised to see it too
Dude, I almost cried... now I feel bad for all the times I put her on the canvas.
_Ok, maybe not..._ but it's still heartbreaking to hear her break like that.
and also get her as war asset
@@ahha6304 Later you can invite her onto Normandy to do news reports.
@@Scorpious187 That part of her dialogue really shows the talent her voice actor has. It really does sound like someone about to break down crying.
It’s funny the “worst” interview is by FAR the most realistic one for an active duty commanding officer.
Not really the worst, since it's the middle option that doesn't spill the beans on Saren.
So all active duty officers are complete idiots with anger management issues? You don't want to let a journalist paint you as racist in the public eye. And you want even less to let her paint you as the villain and a violent thug.
You punching her is her victory. She gets a scoop she wanted. She doesn't care how many low blows she must deal to provoke you and the public will never realize what made you angry. They just see you angry and to most people this is enough to judge you.
@@ripLunarBirdCLH I hate journalists and most people see them as prostitutes too.
@@basedkaiser5352 lol what
@@Crusina it's the stereotype that all female reporters slept with higher ups to get there positions.
Always loved the paragon option in ME 2 if you saved the Council. I love Shepard's attitude and lines.
Remembers all the ships lost, their crew sizes, and emphasizes that they should all be honored.
By far one of my most memorable moments, personally
He didn’t show the Renegade dialog option (not the prompt); I wonder what’s said?
@@JosieJOK 4 knuckles in her somewhat pretty face.
@@JosieJOK I go with the Renegade dialog in Mass Effect 2 (Since I like playing him as a Renegade who does shady stuff in the name of the greater good). It's basically Shepard stating that in war, sometimes you have to make heavy decisions for the sake of overall victory, and that both he, and all the crews lost to save the Council understood what they signed up for as soldiers of the Alliance. He emphasizes that choices like that, while he does make them, are not something he makes lightly, and that the dead men and women don't deserve to be remembered the way she's treating their memory: as a vain sacrifice. The reporter will also comment at the end that she got run over on her own show.
Definitely. Tears welled in my eyes when Shepard recited the names of the ships. Phenomenal scene.
@@Lazarultos Thanks, I just passed that spot!
You forgot something. During the attempted cerberus coup de tat Al Jilani can be heard on the radio relaying Cerberus troop movements on public broadcast and bringing attention to the loss of C-sec coms.
Huh, now that just shot her up even further in my eyes.
There is also the elevator reports in ME1 that was missed in this video.
For example if you took/ or mostly took the paragon path, you will hear the elevator news announcer say "Shepard demonstrated that under that helmet is a keen diplomatic mind."
@@BlazinVoid59 even further, why would you like her in the first place she's horrible.
@@ELVEVERX what drugs are you on?
True but that's not really important for this video. I did enjoy that she was willing to work with us and help save lives though.
two reporters, one gets a punch, the other gets an interview. if only we got more scenes with Emily Wong
Same, I really liked Emily she was a fun character.
3 reporters. The first gets your fist (Al-Jilani), the 2nd gets your help (Wong) and the 3rd gets your D (Allers).
@@feco91 Nah I never sleep with Allers, if you do then you don't get to fulfil any of the other romance paths, and my Shep always romances Yeoman Chambers.
They killed her in a tweet :)
Rip emily
honestly? as great as punching her is, I do legitimately like how the fully paragon path goes. it shows that she does start off being that usual reporter trying to twist anything, slowly just sort of...getting corrupted even further under the stress of everything going on, and how, in the end, she admits that she does actually support shepard and is glad they are around.
Glad others see it that way as well. The situation was dire and false pretense of comfort was gone. Underneath that pompous attitude she was petrified like everyone else. Shepherd's moment to act human to her let's her let her guard down and it's heartening to see her help you.
@@whatareyoulookingat908
Yea. as memey and great s the punch is I really wish people saw this more.
I love how Shepard tells her to keep asking the hard questions to those in power
@@lilalulu30
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Honestly, I think Shepard takes her down much more effectively by keeping her/his cool and obliterating her argument with her/his words. Punching her is satisfying because she's actively trying to smear you, but it's actually what she wants you to do. Nothing she says could make Shepard seem like more of a bully than assaulting an unarmed civilian while wearing powerarmor.
True, but counter argument: Punching her is really really funny.
Power armor?
@@anthonynorman7545 Combat armor in the ME universe includes actuators that enhance your physical strength, plus your hands are also coated in metal pieces. The combination of those two things means that punching someone without armor is way more dangerous to them than a typical punch would be.
@@BlaineTog Ohhh....I forgot about the actuators. My mind went to Fallout. Thank you for explaining!
@@BlaineTog ….nerd
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The paragon interrupt in ME3 was a big highlight for me. I think it's a good representation of the power of radical compassion; Shepard reaches out a hand in a really dark time for her, and she acknowledged that, despite all their past grievances
Radical compassion - I love that
Even if IRL I’d definitely fall short
If you don’t punch her you actually get to see the interviews who would have guessed
Interviews that literally make you want to punch her
@@4jgarner I actually like the paragon options in these interviews. They just make her look like an idiot she is
@@kolosmenus Exactly! In fact she admits to getting owned on her own show when you go all Paragon on her in Mass Effect 2. And she becomes a war asset if you Paragon interrupt her in ME3.
@@yggdrasil1969 You have to punch her even just once in 3, just for the comedy of watching her trying to fight back.
@@4jgarner With the paragon options you totally come out on top of each conversation
Just like in real life, punching may be a satisfying short-term solution but NOT punching works way better in the long run.
It's not even satisfying in the *short-term* it's such as ass-hat action honestly, how many guys feel "tough" punching a woman and it wasnt like hitting the annoying Turian counselor for his crap for the previous 2 games.
Nah the more reporters you punch the better the game
@@Slayer398 it's not about punching a woman, it's about punching a annoying reporter that thinks she knows it all, who's unbelievably arrogant
@@magicalmagicmagician5223 that would be the description of 75% of the present media establishment. Does that mean we get to punch them in real life too?
@@Slayer398 are we a group of highly respected commanders and members of a elite police task force dedicated to fighting terrorism on a galactic level?
Boldly going where no player has dared go before
I actually don't punch her.
@@davidriley8316 Me either. Never have on any playthrough. I don't see the allure of a military person sucker punching a civilian, even if she is annoying.
I never punched her, so for my first playthrough I decided to finally do it
@@yggdrasil1969 I do it cause it makes sense for my Sheppard 🤷♂️ he just likes hurting people
I have never punched her. There are characters that are way more annoying than her (Udina, Sparatus until ME3, or the whole council, really, the Dalatrass ...). It's also quite cowardly of a military person like Shepard to punch a civilian.
Imagine having a yahg catch these hands only for you to get knocked out by a tabloid journalist
Should get war assets from her punching you out tbh. Khalisah has realised her true power and is punching holes through reapers.
This is funny to me because I've never punched her and this is what all my playthroughs have looked like ahhaha
Same lol
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Yeah, same here. Always thought the punch was more of a weird hidden responce you could take for hardcore renegades, untill I saw more and more peoples on forum/video responces and requests to punch (any) reporter during life playthroughs. Never thought her questions were to extreme either, tough questions maybe but thats mostly the journalist style I'm used too from reporters. And why waste precious war effort points (pre legendary edition) for a meme. Hitting a reporter on purpose by a militairy officer in real life would be a huge thing against freedom of the press so I never even could think of doing this (unless I wanted a pure renegade run).
In ME1 her questions were reasonable. Don't know about the other too though.
Good to know that at least a couple of other people are just like me in this.
That dialogue choice where Shepard lists all the ships that went down in the battle is one of my favorite choices in all of the trilogy.
You missed an opportunity to show the scene where a krogan gets annoyed with her camera and tosses her offscreen. So even if Shepard doesn't punch her, a Krogan will do it
Edit: I forgot that a volus will ball tap her if you look hard enough
You mean the Shadow Broker Video Archives?
Yeah, I laughed my ass off when literally all of her video clips are of her getting assaulted.
I actually loved the paragon "ending" to this reporter story, like Shep beats the reporter with superior understanding and wisdom.
With facts and logic.
Some people need to learn a thing or two from shepherd
@@haunted-but-holy Paragon Shepard is honestly a master at problem solving and compassion, so I think he can legitimately be a good role model sometimes.
@@lippi2171 absolutely
I didnt punch her cause, I think its actually funny that you bull-rush her in ME2
Why resort to violence when you can give someone that verbal beatdown?
I find that so much more satisfying. Because she can't even put a spin on that to favor her, compared to if you punch her on live TV
"I'm going to stop the reapers or die trying..."
don't you me, 'AND' die trying....
Feel like it's easier to avoid punching her in ME1 from a role play perspective due to the lack of a quicktime prompt. Because the "punching" option is listed on the dialogue wheel, it gives you a second to pause and think to yourself "Do I really want to punch a reporter in front of trillions of potential viewers?"
Wait, you can NOT punch her?
By punching her - you're basically letting her win. She got what she wanted.
And I'm far too willful to just go along with something like that. If she wants me to punch her - you can be damn sure I never, ever do that no matter how much shit she vomits on me.
Yes, it's called the passive-aggressive way.
I simply ignore the reporters entirely. I've never given an interview since ME1 debuted.
I always preferred to not punch her, not cause I played a mostly paragon Shep. It's just cause I liked bull-rushing her in ME2 and getting her to see my way for war assets in 3
The Paragon path in 3 is a nice bait and switch. You think you're in for another smear job, but for once she genuinely wants answers. The situation is dire indeed if it puts her and Shepard on the same page.
I love the fact that punching the reporter was such a given that going all 3 games without punching the reporter warranted its own video.
Loved that you used femshep for the line at 11:33 Jennifer Hale absolutely nails the emotion when she's listing the ships they lost.
The only proper Shep response is... "we'll bang, ok"
I like "go get stuffed"
Nah, not to Jeelani
Achievement earned: self control is a virtue
War Hero: I play along and at least TRY to be nice to the ambulance chaser. Sole Survivor: I'll dance circles around her until she looks like an idiot. Ruthless: I'll just knock her the !@#$ out.
In ME 3 I wasn't ready for that dodge the first time I played.. And she landed the hit on my shep... I felt so much shame I had to re load my save lol I can't let her land it
The greatest argument against free will can be found in mass effect. You can choose to not punch of the reporter.
But you're going to anyways, aren't you?
Nope
I never did. But I’m weird.
I did once, before I knew the result of the interrupt.
I thought it would just be a badass line 😅
But after that time, I actually find the dialogue options much more rewarding.
Shows my FemShep is above such childish accusation games
Never punched her actually...
I didn't punch her until my second playthrough
I never punched her in most of my playthroughs. I actually don't mind her
Me neither
I wanted to punch her every single time but i wasn't sure if i would get into a fight later in the game because of it lol
I'm just too lawful I guess.
I punch then reset and play without hitting.
I hate her as a character, but I don’t punch her as that goes against military code of ethics which Shepard does.
@@nikik5567 pretty much.I like her because she reminds me of Wendy Williams lol
My favorite reporter in the trilogy was Emily Wong. Too bad that she sacrificed herself in trying to defeat a Reaper.
I love how in the shadow broker dlc it shows her getting hit by everyone she interviews
I remember that there is a blurb in the elevator if you go the paragon route that said that there is a diplomatic mind in that uniform
The Paragorn route with her in ME3 is underrated as hell. It's a wonderful ending to their direct interactions.
I don't punch her in ME1 or 2. Then in 3. Tabloid and I think her BS catches up to her then. Worth it.
not really lol, if you paragon interrupt in 3 shes actually just scared about Earth and will thank you and become a war asset
The first time I played ME3, I chose the first renegade interrupt, thinking it was just gonna be the same thing as ME2 and sat back. I got so pissed when my Shepard got knocked flat that I loaded my last save, which was half an hour earlier, and made sure to pay attention this time
Don't forget the shadow broker video's so you know more about her. Very important in understanding her and why not to punch her.
do one of conrad verner, i think a lot of people don't know q in the second game he has a mission, other than punching him, and in the third game he ends up being useful
His war asset is worth exactly 1 point lol.
@@YourCrazyDolphin It's worth 5 if you have the Asari Matriarch writings and the Elkoss Combine license from ME1. His mission in ME3 is a love letter to the completionists.
Yea, and you can actually end up getting him killed. Depending on how you handle the conversations.
Ha hit him In the quad
Sorry My father was a krogan
there is also paragon dialog with in me2 if you use a mod to fix the save issue which bioware for some reason never did. you would think bioware would have concentrated on important stuff for a remaster then removing butt shots.
"i'm sure saren inconvenienced the people he killed on eden prime too"
legendary
This video concept is so funny to me, I've literally never punched the reporter 😄
I only punched her once when I went full renegade.
Otherwise I always got these outcomes.
same. shes harmless n hey free paragon point/rep. but it is sure fun going full renegade
You kidding? Even if I go paragon, I always punch her
Same
I tried going full-renegade only once, too. I lasted all of half an hour lol. It turned into an Edge-Lord cringefest pretty damn quickly. Then again, the full-paragon approach is pretty cringey too though. In this series, it's like you can either be a self-righteous Virtue-Signaller, or a flat-out asshole. There didn't seem to be much in between.
Then again, if you look at the target-audience, it's not hard to figure out why that's the case lol. Just look at the relationship options. Cause, y'know... Every well-adjusted adult *everywhere* wants to have one of those Hollywood-Method "relationships" in a *videogame* lol... Need I say more?
@@MFKR696 ?
For the Genesis comic at the start of ME2 they really needed to include “Did you hit the reporter” choice also ask it again at the start of ME3 lol.
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Fizhy (Mass Effect 3 is still gold): "Next we had to go to the Citadel, the only reason being to punch a Reporter in the face."
"Never gets old."
having just played through a entire trilogy run without punching her, I found her scene in 3 very touching.
I accidentally punched her in ME2 in my current legendary edition playthrough and just found out she's worth 5 points cause of that
if you DON'T punch her?
Wait....you can do that?
Thank you so much for all of the content lately!!!
I’ve never punched her in any of my play throughs ever
Same, I can’t do a renegade option unless I can justify it. A reporter doing their job isn’t justification.
Same lol
@@msutter117 depending on your background, she pushed fake news on you so she deserves to be punched. She reminds me of a CNN reporter trying to smear Trump so whatever they smear him for.
@@ResidentRecon89 if someone put fake news out on me I’d show the actual story and leave it at that, jokes aside I tend to keep real life out of news from a game. Especially because yes she tries to get you to say pro human answers but what’s fun is it feels like a debate more than interview. I enjoy looking at it that way. Besides doing your job as reporter even if biased doesn’t deserve a violent response.
…right…😏
Great Video,
Also, if you recruit her as a war asset, you can hear her during priority Citadel II before rescuing Valern where she gives update of the situation regarding Cerberus
I laughed so hard when he said “the council can kiss my ass.”😂 this whole video was funny! Never even knew you could even punch the reporter. I did pure paragon on my first play through. This was one of your best videos.
The videos of her from the Shadow Broker are so worth repeated trips to the base.
Comforting her might be the only Paragon interrupt I avoid.
“Keep asking the hard questions.”
We do need journalists that do that but.. that’s not what she does. She sets people up with leading questions to push an agenda she can sell.
I don't agree. She obviously had an opinion on the matters at hand and journalists are allowed to have opinions.
Shepard had been made into what is essentially a black ops official for a foreign intergovernmental organization that humans were not a officially a part of in ME1. Harkin was the first human c-sec officer, we know how that ended. So humans could not just assume that you were good.
She *should* ask the questions that were being asked by the average human so that you could give your take on them, even if you think those questions are not good questions.
@@thesystem5980 Ive had enough of your disingenuous assertions.
* Punches you *
@@thesystem5980 No but in all seriousness I can see this as a defense of her. I do think that it’s important for journalists to ask hard questions to keep militaries and black ops agents like Shepard on the right path. It’s a powerful and an important job.
I just don’t think this _particular_ journalist does it well. She feels like she just chases tabloids in Mass Effect 1 and 2, and in 3 goes after Shepard because she’s angry. And you’re right, journalists are allowed to have opinions - everyone is - but it’s important to try to stay impartial in that profession. It’s like teaching: you can have an opinion, but your job is to present information as objectively as possible, so you do what you can to not let your students know what you personally feel and argue both sides.
I don’t think she deserves the horror of losing her family and friends. But I don’t want to encourage her style of journalism.
Then again… in a high-choice media environment, it’s important to have people who argue for a particular side so everyone has a voice. So it’s good there are Shepard’s like you who do encourage her.
@@JyujinPlus I just don’t think this particular journalist does it well. She feels like she just chases tabloids in Mass Effect 1 and 2, and in 3
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How? She isn't asking you any personal "celebrity gossip" questions or unimportant questions, she is asking you about your allegiances and your decisions, which are natural foreign policy concerns which the average human would have of a black ops person working for an IGO that their country is not a part of (who has also been given an important ship). Just because she has opinions about the facts does not mean she is a tabloid reporter.
We don't even know if those are her actual opinions. They may very well be the questions that average people (some of whom are conspiracy theorists) would want to ask Shepard. It is important for Shepard to answer those questions, even if they may be uncharitable. Some reporters conduct interviews in that way and it's a good thing otherwise you will just get more conspiracy theorists creating the narrative.
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And you’re right, journalists are allowed to have opinions - everyone is - but it’s important to try to stay impartial in that profession. It’s like teaching: you can have an opinion, but your job is to present information as objectively as possible, so you do what you can to not let your students know what you personally feel and argue both sides.
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A journalist should have good facts and be rational, if those facts are consistent with a given conclusion , then being impartial is not rational or ethical.
This is what she knows.
1: Shepard is unelected.
2: Shepard is a black ops person working for an organization the human government is not a part of.
3: Shepard was given an important ship by an admiral who was his superior officer.
4: Shepard has foreign nationals/aliens on this important ship.
5: There are conspiracy theories about what Shepard is currently doing (on Noveria, Feros, regarding Saren) which may or may not be true.
6: In ME2, Shepard makes a decision about the council which is controversial no matter what that decision is.
Questions related to this have to be asked.How does one ask these questions in an impartial way, in your opinion? And if you go paragon and say nice things about the council, then your allegiances will naturally be in question.
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But I don’t want to encourage her style of journalism.
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What style? What kinds of questions would you think is ethical for a journalist to ask to black ops people working for IGO' s their government is not a part of?
@@thesystem5980 When I played my playthrough I never felt any real need to be violent and never found her particularly unpleasant in 1 and 3. Her ME2 "interview" is much more aggressive BUT I took it as "ok, I work for a terrorist organisation right now so she thinks I betrayed the Alliance I guess". I would never punch her ouside of my troll/evil playthroughs, even on my full renegade ones I do the renegade options or just walk away because I dont have time for that shit.
I get goosebumps everytime in ME2 if Shepard says the names of the lost battleships...
Me who already knows all of this: ah yes, very interesting I must watch
Newer understood why people punch her. Shepard's verbal smackdown is way more satisfying. Especially in ME2, when he starts listing all destroyed ships into her dumbfounded face.
I love that this is so uncommon that we have a video explaining it.
I love NOT punching her because not only do you still own her verbally and get her as a war asset in ME3 but you also see a different side of her character, a more human side of her who just scared.
I love that little bit of character development, you get more in that character development than in some movies based on the main characters.
Thanks for taking one for the team, like you said, punching her is such meme, you gotta do it even on your Paragon games.
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He just sounds sooo sad
I think it's hilarious xD
i found this channel about 2 weeks ago and can not stop watching. i know/knew most of this stuff back in the day but with ME:LE it feels good to refresh on all the little side stuff that ive forgotten. i dont know how i found this channel but i glad i did.
Don't know why anyone would punch her lmao. She's just a reporter. Tabloid, maybe, but ME3 shows there's a genuine person underneath.
She's an annoying reporter. We get spoiled with Emily Wong, and then this lady shows up making snide insinuations, disingenuous assertions, and tabloid journalism.
Punching her is funny and doesn't really hurt you.
First impressions bro lol. Not gonna wait 3 games for her to be nice
@@Mr-Trox None of that warrants assault lmao
Me neither honestly, she's just doing her job.
+1 bro
I love how Jack gets out of the way when the camera drone starts filming.
I actually never punched her in my main playthrough, I know that is ratings gold she deserves to be calmly shown up like the idiot she is instead. Also according to the Shadow Broker terminals she gets hit plenty without Shepard's help lol
:D I have a hard time not playing paragon so I always have that last response. It's so fun to see what would happen otherwise. Thank you for your channel!
I actually never punched the reporter during my first run....
Thanks dude, have not seen a lot of these and really happy I got to see paragon route. Actually want to do that next time. It was a sweet ending and I like it.
*“What if I don’t want to know what happens…?”*
I just may try this on my next playthrough, good information vid!
Thank you for doing this I didn't actually think it was possible to beat Saren, the Collectors or even the Reapers without punching the reporter.
Also Shepard the entire time looked like he was holding it in and at any second will break and punch the reporter
Wow, this RUclips channel is specialize for mass effect games
Superb
Cheers to this dedicated gamers channel
I play male Shepard, and I just can't punch a female civilian, even during renegade plays. Maybe if the reporter was male I would punch.
I mean, yeah, for fuck’s sake, who are these M-Sheps punching women? I could see doing it once, out of curiosity, but if one does it again after watching him punching a woman, one has a problem.
@@ledelste I punch equally. Male female synth arachnid and even jellyfish
You kidding me? I just go full gender equality and punch her regardless because she is a reporter that just wants to get a bad scoop on Shepard
I play as the male shephard, paragon, and I still punch her out. Same with the scientist on eden prime
@@kevinW826 easy renegade points
When I first played ME3, when I got to the part where she dodged my punch and smacked back, that was genuinely one of the funniest jokes I'd ever seen in my life, it was pure gold.
I just thought "Ha! Now I can punch her again!" But she ducked and hit back... it was SO unexpected. And COMPLETELY deserved because she never once hit Shepard first. It was
Who ever thought of that should have gotten a raise.
One of my favourite video game jokes of all time.
Is her hair texture flipped in ME3: Legendary, or is it just me?
No, she has a different hairstyle in 3. Her hairstyle was different in the original release as well.
@@Scorpious187 I distinctly remember that same hairstyle with a left side parting in the original ME3. I’ve noticed it on other characters with this hairstyle too (Chakwas, for example).
Holy hell dude, you're right... Nice catch! I just found an old video of these scenes and her hair *is* flipped in the LE. ruclips.net/video/cenKx5hV9N4/видео.html starting around 2:40 in to confirm.
She does have a different hairstyle in 3 compared to 1 and 2, but it is flipped in the ME:LE... so weird.
@@Scorpious187 Another thing I noticed; Chakwas' hair is "normal" in the opening cutscene of ME2. However, her position getting in the escape pod has changed.
In the original, she's second from the end on the right (the love interest takes the end one after yelling "Everbody in. Go, go, go!"). Now, she's second from the end on the left.
Thanks, no one has seen this before so you are the first person ever
I held off punching her in the first 2 games. Then decided my character had been through too much, and decked her in the last one.
that seems pretty on point for ME3; shepard was being worn thin under the stress
I love the paragon response where he comforts her and also lists every ship the alliance lost.
(If you saved the council)
Yeeeeees the reporter video lol
Doing a paragon play through on 2 right now was surprised about her response going huh dejv then I remembered your channel hope your doing well
Ok Big Dan. You have done something almost impossible, almost no one knew that this was even an option to not punch her in the face, but it was.
Now I and everyone in the entirety of the mass effect community must ask you for one last sacrifice.
Find out what happens if you actually select Udina as the first human councilor in mass effect 1. I know it must seem like an impossible task, but you are the only one that can get this done.
5 Fleet out
Did. Different dialogue but no changes game wise.
This must have been difficult to do. My condolences
I've never punched her at all. Even now running through LE, in me3 right now and still haven't. But then I've never done a renegade playthrough.
go full renagade its fun and def wont leave u curled up on the floor
@@dadjokes8963 mordins ok. He's just napping
I really, really like the paragon route with her. It disarms here every time, and then at the end Shepard hears that panicked desperation in her voice and steps up to comfort her. Despite how she's treated him in the past, he's still a good man, and taking a final step forward is what firmly fixes that in her mind.
Damnit Dan. Why should I suffer this crap for 10 points? I always deck her asap. Jesus man. Making my life choices tough here. Have a good day. I'm gonna go think about what I've done to her pixels for years.
Its actually pretty crazy how much went into what seems like such a mundane encounter, so many different dialogue chains.
I've NEVER hit the reporter so this video speaks to me!
I did the paragon speech options in 1 and decked her in 2 and 3 because my headcanon was Shepherd turning darker and ruthless as things get desperate
I never punched her in all my playthroughs sorry boys
How could you......
In the Citadel mission, she'll even do her part to help by broadcasting the Cerberus attack while appealing for help
When Shepard recited the ship names. He stood at attention which is just epic. Paragon Shepard is a master showman
kinda wish we got to see the Intimidate options in me2, especially since Renegade Shepherds are much more likely to punch her vs Paragon Shepherds who'd always go for Charm.
Thank you for finding this hidden content! Would have never found this otherwise 😉