No Man's Sky Waypoint (4.0) Update Trailer
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2022
- Introducing Waypoint, No Man's Sky's 4.0 update. An overhaul of fundamental gameplay elements including game modes, inventory size and usability, milestones, journey cataloguing and much more!
Out now on PC, PlayStation, Xbox and...Nintendo Switch!
www.nomanssky.com/waypoint-up... 
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No longer a "come back" story, it's simply a fantastic game that continues to grow
I agree
it gets boring very fast
@@lesliescottw you can say the same about many games
@@Kulascus but am taking about this game not other games
@@lesliescottw if you got no imagination bro, this game is not for you lol
I honestly can not believe that you STILL work so passionately on this game, your work ethic and generosity are truly remarkable guys. kudos to you.
Totally agree. I bought this game when it was boring and pointless. Now look!
well, they made (and still make) plenty of money, so...
@@themax2go all about value for money for me. One time purchase with years of value.
@@themax2go After the shitshow that was the launch everybody assumed to never hear from them again, but they didn't run with our money, they hunkered down and worked their ass off, WITHOUT taking more money. They won back the trust they lost through hard work. That's why they still make money.
Ruined the game took out content, cant buy oxygen for making chemicals, cant jetpack or warp as far and no expedition. As someone who never cheats ended up duping oxygen instantly bored never playing it again
This game is a dream come true for a lot of people. I can't believe they continue to work on it, I'm proud of the developers big time.
No mans sky has come so far in 6 years. Keep up the good work!
You obviously haven't loaded up this update yet. You'll change your opinion pretty quickly once you've figured out what they've done to your save.
@@historymaker118 wdym ?
@@historymaker118 YES a real mess in inventories and technologies
Every time a new big updates comes, I create a new game, so not affected. I recommend you do same for a new experience
@@XarlsGreenHill And lose access to the legacy base parts not to mention the hundreds of hours worth of grind for upgrades and slots, ships, and the bases I've built? You obviously don't play this game.
How much you work for this game is just admireable. Such incredible work the whole gaming industry should take a look and learn from this!
Yup. A study in how to completely undo 6 years of work in a single update.
CDPR in particular but I'm optimistic about Orion
@@historymaker118 dude, the update is fine. I dont get what youre on about. They simplified and expanded the inventory system. How is that bad?
@@historymaker118 quality of life changes and custom gamemodes somehow ruin the game? yea that makes sense 🙄
@@prodfife There’s a minority (and yes, it is a minority) who are upset because the various overhauls have shifted things around, rescaled stats and led to some reorganisation being required in existing saves. These are perfectly valid complaints but acting like much of this couldn’t (and indeed won’t) be fixed in some rapid fire patches is rather melodramatic. They’ve annoyed some people by making some wide-sweeping changes but no, the game isn’t “ruined” or destroyed.
I hope that for future updates they add multiple biomes on planets, rivers with flowing water, better animation for volcano lavas, bigger villages, rare cities across the galaxy and procedually generated bosses hidden on planets surface and underground.
Nice one. Even if we can't get multiple biomes, I'm down for some environmental challenges that have better visuals.
Yeah each planet having 1 biome made them feel very fake
Instead of adding more things that get old they really need to turn up the power of the random generator
@@kiliandomling5232 u good?
My inventory is completely messed up now.
So proud of this team. Fell in love with NMS before launch and despite it’s rocky start the game has developed into a incredibly wholesome experience. The expansion of NMS feels similar to a child growing up through the years learning what works and what’s possible and I can only imagine the level of joy it brings Hello Games to see how far the game has come. They should be very proud with what they’ve achieved.
"They just keep on giving!"
"Best comeback in gaming history!"
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Give me a f*cking break...
1) You can land on any planet or moon and see just about every single thing there is to see on the entire planet/moon within 100 yards of where you land your ship.
2) There is absolutely nothing unique about the content in the entire game. Ruins/abandoned structures/crashed ships and freighters etc, can all be found on just about every single planet and moon (excluding fully barren planets/moons).
3) There is life in literally EVERY SINGLE STAR SYSTEM!!!
That said, these simple facts render the incentive to explore, unenjoyable and unrewarding (imo).
Face the the reality of the facts, people...
Once you've seen between 20 and 40 planets/moons, you've basically seen everything the entire game has to offer.
@@tothesky8799 ya know, you don't need to shit on something someone else likes just because you don't. Pretty sure no one is forcing you to play it or even acknowledge it's existence.
@@tothesky8799 gee bro, grow up. You may not like it, but other people really do. taking a piss on other people just trying to enjoy something is immature and shows you have some bad insecurity issues
@@tothesky8799 Don’t care not reading, I’m playing NMS right now.
@@tothesky8799 This is exactly why I don't play it anymore. The movement and combat feels really clunky. I just want to build a base on an untouched empty corner of the universe, but every planet has ships flying overhead every 5 minutes and a million trading posts. I want to have dog fights in space and battles between fleets of ships. I still can't get over how goofy the aliens look.
You've become a reference for the industry. I'm so glad a studio like yours exist, you are truly amazing
Please, revert tech slots changes or add more tech slots. My whole set up was cut in half and I have no where to install them 😰.
This is great. I would love to see this game introduce Crew Ships with personal quarters for each crew mate. The ship can come with a Missions Board allowing players and NPCs across the galaxy to post request for trades, deliveries & bounties for a reward. Just an idea, looking forward to playing this update.
I’ve been wanting this for years. I suspect it may not be technically feasible within this game engine.
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This
I would have an organization is this comes true
NMS is truly one of the greatest comeback stories in gaming
No it's not lol hardly anyone plays it anymore because they haven't added enough actual content. It has 6k monthly players on steam and probably 20k on console. Mostly just quality of life stuff and no scalable endgame, no new enemies, no real point to any of it and nothing to work towards. Combat is still boring and rudimentary. And it's still an inventory management simulator. Let's put all our time into collecting materials and money so we can build fleets and towns and buildings with literally nothing to threaten any of it. We just own it and that's pretty much the whole game. Boring. And once you've enjoyed discovering planets enough, it's the same boring loop.
100% this. 👆
@@RedceLL1978 that's why they are keeping to update it dingus
@@RedceLL1978 no new enemies? boi have you even played the game?
@@RedceLL1978 Agree with some of this although the game is still impressive. They should focus the next major update on the endgame and have hard engame content and threats added. Would make the game so much better. Minecraft tends to suffer from the same issue, no hard endgame content.
Another legendary update
SEAN CANNOT BE STOPPED
Hello Games has become, and remained, the most impressive game dev studio I think I've ever seen. The amount of hard work and dedication the team is putting in to what has ultimately become so much more than we could ever imagine is mindblowing. Well done, Hello Games, and massive respect Sean Murray!
I think there is two studios like that. Digital Extremes and Hello Games. Those are the top.
These guys are trash
@@cotizcesarand ghost ship games
Like everything except the inventory change. Invested a lot of time and resources in finding and stacking exosuit upgrades for ultimate survivability.
Now, if I don't destroy 3 of each type, I won't have any active. I don't even want to log in to see my inventory glowing red all over.
Absolutely nuts that you guys are still updating and giving us all this stuff thank you
It's the result of a company that is not controlled by the almighty dollar. Because of that business ethic, they built a monumental game that made a permanent mark.
@@escapedcops08 M8 Im well aware I'm currently playing overwatch 2 and the monetization on that shit is disgusting
@@BemusedOwl So stop playing. I've turned my back on any game with loot boxes.
@@A88mph ow2 removed lootboxes
@@erichbauer3991 still a game released by a shity compagny
One step forward 10 steps back.
The fact that all these updates are free makes me love this game so much. It had its share of issues at launch but I still played the hell out of the game. So glad it's still going strong.
Geez! Every new trailer I see for this game makes it sound like the best game ever all over again! I don't know how you guys do it! Glad to be a day-one supporter.
The amount of care the devs have put into this game is astounding. Bravo!
And its free updates, i am always out of words when they releases godly updates like that
Except this update didnt fix age old issues and bugs... as normal. And destroyed advanced players in the process.
...for cheating customers with false content in the beginning. Delivered an unfinished game and just lied all the time. And now they're fetching everything that should have been in the game from the BEGINNING and the fanboys are freaking out.
No Man's Sky looks simply Beautiful on my pc. I landed on the 2nd planet in my starting system and I'm parked there, It features Rain Showers and an Earthly Temperature. I always wanted to thank Sean Murray and his Team for this game, I got it Day 1 as a preorder and never put it down! : )
Still super proud of this game, I still play it every now and then. So happy for the team and their success!!
Just picked the game back up and after a few hours got a few buddies to re download. This is honestly night and day from when I first played. I can not wait for the future updates.
Has anyone else had the experience with the new update when trying to move items from one inventory to another (ie. starship to freighter) that it doesn’t move the full stack.
me. already reported it on day 1
And the best part is ... And our journey continues 👍👌
Not mine. I'm done with this game. The devs only care about new players, this entire update was just one big middle finger to everyone who had played this game for years.
@@historymaker118 who asked?
@@historymaker118 they are still updating it, and I'm with you but, they still have time to deliver it closer to what was promised
Sean I just climbed into a souped up minotaur on a planet covered in bright green flares...you and your team did a wonderful thing for people who stuck with this and for the newbies
so glad about the whole thing to view the progress. i’ve come back many times but forget to much to get back into so glad i can maybe make a good comeback now
You are the hero of video game devs! Amazing work!
This update is rough on late-game players. You can no longer install technology in inventory slots for the exosuit, starship or freighter, any technologies that were installed in inventory are uninstalled (and returned to you, at least). This means that if you invested time and effort into filling your technology and inventory slots with technology, half to two thirds of it is no longer useful. The restriction on three technologies of the same type has been kept, so where my S-Class Explorer used to be able to travel almost 3000 light years, it can now only reach 1500.
I think the intention of this update to mostly help new players since the game launched on Switch at the same time, but you do make a fair point. it doesn't really give back the time players put into acquiring the old slots, but this is still better for a majority of players.
@@rudeboyspodcast i dont know about that. I starryed started playing a couple months ago. Been enjoying the game albeit the building system is a pain if you try to make anything too complexe.
But now my jet pack fuel quantity, power, my running stamina, my shield and hp have basically been halved. This feel like i've been shot in the knee by an explosive 5.56mm bullet. The whole streamlining is nice, but there need to be a upping in the limit of chained/set modules you can have at the same time. While i like that you can now finally unpack an uppgrade, meaning you can keep your environemental uppgrades off untill you really need them, this set back really is hard to diggest
This was a huge step backwards. My character is incredibly reduced by this update. And the new inventory is system is garbage.
@@longinus58 it's not so much garbage as it's a mess and it make no sense that you lose the "cargo" slots wich are supposed to have higher stacking capability. But you do get more space slots.
@@thehatred94 Adding scrolling to inventory. Garbage idea. Smaller icons. Garbage idea. Uninstalling and losing the RNG stat rolls on any module in main inventory. Garbage idea. Nerfing existing characters to extreme levels by removing a long established method of installing mods in main inventory. Garbage idea. Having less overall slots for technology. Garbage idea. The loss of hundreds of hours of farming modules for maxing stats. Garbage idea. Its a mess... and a garbage update. After being with the game for 1000s of hours. Going through all the lies and horribly buggy updates for all these years. Im done. HG can burn for all I give a damn.
Can't believe that new content come to this awesome game, thanks you!
I was watching internet Historian minutes ago, youre the best sean murray you are a good guy
they are still adding things, they are still redesigning things. what is mindblowing for me is that is all for free.
being on game pass surely brings them a good revenue because i can't think of how they make money else.
keep it up!
@@AmontellegramHelloGamesTube Haha. bots are fcked now
I like the free updates and all but I don't understand why change something that worked just fine in the first place. Also disappointed you can no longer ship build and that I've spent weeks grinding to get modules for the best stats just for that to be all gone in One update. Hopefully in the future they can fix this issue Maybe by making technology work in general again or more technology slots.
Thanks Hello Games for your commitment to make the game you envisioned and what the customer base wanted.
It was a Rocky start, but these updates show that you care and as such in future despite what difficulties may occur with any new potential IP, you have earned enough good will.
Good job and thanks for all the hard work !!!
All of this new content since release, FOR FREE, is absolutely amazing. Every update pulls me back in to playing NMS all over again. Keep up the great work everyone at Hello Games, you're all superstars!
And no MICROTRANSACTION nor pay to win bs this is the kind of developers we need to support
Not really for free it was a 60 dollar aaa advertised indie game, so no not for free
@@Spriktor they don’t add price to the game after every update so its not a paid update.
While I appreciate the extra spaceships, storage containers, and nutrient processor slots, I'm really disappointed that the general tab has been merged with the cargo tab. Up until now, there were 3 upgrade modules each for the general and technology items, for a total of 6 upgrade modules, but with the abolishment of the general tab, you can now only equip up to 3 upgrade modules. This has greatly weakened the ship, and I cannot welcome it.
I love this change.
No more overpowered ships one shotting everything b
@@HennySeaLove we earned those over powered ships it's not like they just appeared in our inventory.
@@billypaxton9295
It was still unbalanced? And in a mostly PvE game what’s the point of being OP? I get the time it took to create a ship being wasted is annoying but the actual change doesn’t ruin the game, it just makes it more balanced.
@@YourDrunkStepDad speek for yourself it will take me more than 20 hour of reconfiguring to fix this. I am done. 300 hours down the drain.
@@billypaxton9295
I lost hours too. Been playing since launch i get it. But everyone is being so fuckin dramatic. It’s not a big deal. With the new difficulty settings you can even make all tech free. so it’s literally just time.
I dont know how you do it, you just make it so much better EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!
Great work on this update, all of the hard work is appreciated. The new visuals look amazing and so does the new ui. Thank you for your hard work, I wish you well, God bless you.
The greatest redemption story in gaming history continues. Impressive.
With a shocking twist! In a single ill-conceived update, they managed to anger the players who have been playing this game for years by undoing hundreds or thousands of hours and years of grind and then told them it was an 'improvement'. The second downfall of hello games is something they might not recover from.
@@historymaker118 Seriously, stop it. Why are you trying to hijack every remotely positive comment? It’s making you look unhinged.
Please revert the inventory HG. You’ve done such great things to the game, but this is definitely a pain to the community that is most definitely not a QoL improvement but the opposite making high play time not as worth while and making the grind to get good gear to survive and thrive not enjoyable afterwards
Every update I rush over to Nexus mods to install my fav quality of life mods, and each update I've needed less and less, but with this update, you have added every feature I've used mods to make up for, all the features I want are here. Hello games you are legendary with your updates, thankyou so much
THANK YOU for the amazing improvements. I'm an "Elite Dangerous convert" and I must say, the comparison between hello games and Frontier development couldn't be more stark. Glad I found you
This game has evolved so much over the years. Keep up the amazing updates!
And in a single update has managed to devolve back into something worse than before. Maybe hold off on any more 'amazing' updates.
you people are nothing short of amazing. A true inspiration for the industry, turning a bad thing to an amazing thing. Keep up the good work
I'm continually in awe to your dedication to this game
i just redownloaded the game and the last time i played was in 2016, you guys have done some great work
We love you Sean & Hello Games!
The best part about NMS is that even after 6 years now they say from the bottom of their heart "Our journey continues..." 😊🙏 Hats off to Hello Games for keeping the updates coming for free for all these years!
this is definitely my favorite game ever !! you are absolutely amazing guys !!
Just started playing and have no idea what in doing but am loving the figuring out and doing whatever i feel like vibe. Been wanting to play since it came out and had issue and never got to it so decided to join in late. Thank you for this endless fantasy.
Joining no man's sky late isn't a bad thing. No Man's Sky was TERRIBLE at launch. The devs stuck with it and turned it into something incredible
HelloGames has a special place in my heart. Im really admiring the support the studio is giving to the game!
All I can say is im.proud of you hello games and proud of this community for sticking together! What a journey it has been
Glad were finally seeing an update that focuses mostly on quality of life improvements for a change! I always love new content don’t get me wrong, but something like this was long overdue.
I bought this game long ago like 5 years ago and that game literally grow up and is now incredible ! Love u all and courage
The update looks great. The loss of general inventory just nerfed my character and ships. The number 1 rule is to not take away things the player has earned. I don't even want to download this. This is my favorite game. Over 2500 hours and 8 saves in less than a year. Not sure what I'm going to do. The wife is livid. Looks awesome... Sounds terrible.
Same
Something's cookin'.. I feel it.
ruclips.net/video/FW1SzMv0jSQ/видео.html
lol, it's here
Great job! Keep up! Cheers from Croatia!
HG is absolutely killing it. I haven't really been in the mood to play a lot over the years, just occasionally hop in, but their updates are always awe-inspiring. It's remarkable how much they've done, for free, since launch. Bravo, HG.
@@billypaxton9295 just start a new game.. it doesn't take that long for the most stuff to get it back. or you can use some mods to help you getting stuff back
@@tikurai4970 I have played since 2016, I am done. 300 hours down the drain. I play on PlayStation no mods.
@@tikurai4970 my character was maxed out with double S mods.
@@billypaxton9295 idc bro lol
@@arakui well no one was talking to you so idc if ydc.
Esse jogo tá simplesmente incrível, sempre acreditei que o jogo iria entregar o que prometeu 👏👏👏👏👏
I would love to continue to support the No Man's Sky, it is absolutely epic and I love that the team continues to evolve and expand the game. I see there is new merch available but I'd still love to see posters! (I love the in-game posters, so I recreated the Home poster and printed it out myself)
Amazing work Hello Games!! Thanks for create the best experience in No Man's Sky!!🤗
I'm finding the changes are good, but a little difficult to get used to after 2000 hours on the previous methods... XD
Edit : After playing around with the new stuff a bit more, I'm afraid I'm going to have to agree with many others who have said the inventory changes are not good. Sorry HG.
Maybe keep the new style, but put it back to the way it used to work before? Please and thank you. :)
For the most part its decent. Specially with boosted inventory space. The major problem is that you can no longer have like, 4 sentinel modules in technology and 4 in inventory. This is a huge set back, same for vehicles and ships. What need to be done is upping the number of modules that can be paired.
This update ruined the game for any advanced players. My characters have been nerfed into the ground.
@@longinus58 nerfed? It's not a shooting game lol. It's an exploration game. Get over yourself
@@Abrakadabro666 lmao right? You play against the computer!
Y’all are the best to ever do it. Period
Amazing! Thank u guys
Hello Games is one of the few developers that care about the end user.
Yet another update packed with content after listening to the player base and costing absolutely nothing.
Absolutely fantastic guys thanks 😊
'Packed with content'????? What video were you watching?
@@historymaker118 the video doesn't show all of it but there is quite a bit listed www.nomanssky.com/waypoint-update/
I think it's high time they added a ton more appearance customization for player avatars!
Nice, I'm rooting for you guys
Always happy to see how much you guys care about this game, you have one happy customer right here.
The inventory change seems to have been done simply to justify the nerf to modules. Now we get to scroll the inventory... how is this better than the tabbed screen?
R.I.P. double configuration
The passion here is beautiful!
So many amazing updates.... Thanks 👍
Another amazing update! I still just really wish there were more variation for basic ships... we've had essentially the same since launch with only a couple additions.
This seems like such low-hanging fruit, I'm not sure why it hasn't been part of any of these updates
All the new ships are ugly as heck. I really miss the original designs for the ships and just wish they introduced a few newer parts for ship generation. Instead of those ugly ballsacks in space. Lol
@@markasaur Exactly, even if they only added a few new wings, noses, etc it'd be a great addition. Could add a handful with every major update even
HELP ?!
WTHeck did HG do to us now ? I loaded up my Permadeath save (800+ hrs), and once again ALL MY CAREFULLY HONED BUILDS for all my Starships, my Exosuit, and even my Freighter are all trashed/mothballed. 🤯😱 Presumably the same mess awaits me in Survival (where I have 2000+ hrs). 😢
After 3,500+ hrs of gameplay, I would have thought HG would have learned to NOT KICK OVER THE FRIGGIN TABLE ON PEOPLE'S STUFF by now, but apparently not.
Somebody please tell me that all my hard earned builds and mod stats are not permanently fuxxored. I have ZERO interest in a new game or relaxed mode ... I just want to get my stuff back to the way it was in my existing modes (survival & permadeath). 😖
Ive been playing off and on from day one, and this is what, the THIRD time ive had EVERYTHING trashed out from under me ... this is really wearing thin, and im looking for reasons not to just delete everything and never look back.
Love it! Can't wait to make a new video with the update
Don't ever let this game die! Keep going as you are going its a true masterpiece and will just keep getting better and better!
Balance and improvements are always good. Hope there's a lot here that's been built taking into account player feedback. Curious to see how new players like it. Seems to make the starting experience more welcoming and less chaotic.
Old players certainly hate it.
@@historymaker118 Some do. Don’t speak for everyone. These hardcore online forums tend to behave like echo chambers that squeeze out positive discussion when something has stirred up a vocal minority.
Ye i haven't played it yet but it the update as a whole looks pretty neat. ^_^
@@historymaker118 Why do they? Amongst the NMS players I know, their biggest qualm after all these updates has always been around the annoying-ness of the UI, quest system, starting experience, etc. Always felt pretty clunky. Any sort of change to this is a step in the right direction imo
@@jonpotter9510 Well let me give you some honest feedback then: The new update sucks. I now have 30+ spaceship upgrades which have been uninstalled and moved into cargo, rendering them useless. I went to check how much a new tech inventory slot costs and it's 75 million. Basically I have to pay billions of credits so I can reinstall all my tech, which obviously I'm not going to do. The devs totally fucked up. In an attempt to streamline the game for newbies, they alienated the veteran players.
I just wanted to Thank Sean and the Whole Team at Hello Games For Their hard work and dedication to excellence. And for continuing to bring us amazing content update after update. I've been playing NMS since launch and till this day it's my favorite! You guys really do a great job! Thanks and Keep up the great work!
😊👍👍👍
I also wanted to thank Sean and his team. Especially in the beginning when I paid €59 for a game that was completely bugged. Things that should be in the game weren't in there. I would have loved to thank Sean personally....
Played for 8 hours straight on a fresh profile yesterday. Top notch work with this one. It’s small, but the improvements feel big.
Congrats!
I just hope one thing. The person who came with the idea to "reset tech" have a really really bad weekend 😊
If you look on Steam, a lot of veteran players have complained that hundreds of hours of farming and work have gone to waste because of the inventory and tech changes. Looks like this has been the most controversial update (and the only one, as far as I remember) to this day
No Man's Sky is about the journey, not the destination so those hours didn't go to waste. If anything it gives us new goals to explore towards.
no further words to say to the team. congrats and congrats people
You guys are crazy good!
A big "thank you" to hello games for all the work they put in NMS.
They just released Endurance a couple months ago! This is literally insane.
I was thinking the same, it's crazy i'm sure one day his (and ours) dream about the game will come true if he keeps up with it like that.
love you guys!
It's so awesome, I love this game so much :D Thank you for continuing to make it awesome :D
Jogo cada dia mais incrível com essas atualizações. ❤
I`m always happy to see the game being updated, but please give us the ability to build ships from scratch and fully customize them with different parts. I think an update with that feature would really be game changing and would make it so much more fun to explore the universe for different items.
Yes and also walkable small ship interiors
@@robopenguin5501 where would you walk? The small ships you have is just the cockpit and the rest is machinery akin to a single person plane
you had me at 'inventory has been streamlined'
actually followed this game since it was announced and I'm finally getting into in and I gotta say, I love it
No one seems to care that tech and tech slots have been totally nerfed with this update...
EDIT: I got it all back. Took a lot of units and warping about, but I guess that's the nature if the game.
I feel the same 2400ly ship cut down 900ly honestly I feel gutted.
Exploration needs to be needs to be overhauled. All the free updates they have been doing are great but they really need to update the exploration bit, add more animals, biomes, variations, rivers, waterfalls, dense forests, canyons, planets that make you feel small, etc. because honestly all planets feel the same to me. Anyone else feel the same? Every time they update the game I get in to check it out but get bored after 20 minutes.
You are not alone I say the same thing every update
I remember being obsessed with this game ever since the first trailer came out
I’m so excited for the update especially relaxed mode, cant wait to get back in!!!
When I said that NMS will get better by time ever since it came out because I knew this is gonna happen> people laughed at me. Yeah jokes on you know even after all these years I knew I was right! Best part is > this is never gonna stop with the updates ❤️🔥
Well it will, as soon as sales of the game stops, they will stop with the updates. They are not going to do it for free. But sales have been steady over the years due to a very staggered release, with lots of people holding off due to the negative start (personally I liked the game from release)then sales from platform releases, and then the fantastic press it has had as they released updates, which again boosted sales from people who may not be into the genre, but was curious about the "turn around". I'm sure you don't expect them to work for free?
Hats off to you guys for making this game so awesome for the past years!!! I'm hoping for much more updates!! Keep it alive!