Another useful video, thanks. I picked up a pair of AKG K550 reference headphones for £60 about 6 years ago and I don’t think I’d ever change. They have an amazingly wide and clear sound stage that I’ve never heard in any other headphones. They’re light and well-made and I’ve had no problems wearing them for six to eight hours at a time.
I'm just dabbling with garageband and recording and just trying to get my head around the basic functions. I have no ambition for anyone to ever hear what I record. I'm doing it just for my own benefit. I don't have a lot of money so I picked up a set of amazon basics studio headphones for £20. I'm sure that's hilarious to all the experts out there but I think they are actually pretty good and suit my budget setup perfectly. I'm a big believer that you shouldn't get caught up with gear envy. Just use what you have. The main thing is that you enjoy what you're doing. If you get more skilled they you can upgrade later Great video as usual!
As a ATH-m30x user myself, I can certainly vouch for them. I usually mix on them, then fine tune on my monitors (Eris 3.5) and I'm ready to master. True, they can get tiresome after a long session but it's better to take brakes often anyway because of ear fatigue so no big deal.
When I was 16 or 17 years old I bought my first Sennheiser, the famous HD 414. Every radio DJ had one these days. Light weight, on-ear, balanced sound. That was 50 years ago. I think I used it 25 years, and then I bought the Sennheiser HD 480, which I still use. I am very pleased with it. At this point I would not know with what I should replace it if it broke. Maybe the CB1? Thanks for making this video, and all your others ones!
Great vid. I’m just going to throw Sennheiser into the ring. I used their HD461 headphones as my main production headphones before upgrading to the ATH m50X headphones. These and the more expensive HD471s have now been discontinued and replaced with the near-identical HD200 PRO which cost around £50. Like a lot of headphones at this price point, they do trade a premium feel for good sound but I think we can agree that that is a pretty decent trade-off
@@TheGaragebandGuide amazing. They do suffer from the same wear that the M30Xs do but luckily everything is replaceable. I have used them to mix most of my most-recent songs. They just have a sound that I know and can trust. I have recently got some new headphones from Sennheiser to replace them for music-listening but I still use the M50Xs every day. They're a bargain.
I have been using Sennheiser HD 201 for some years and they are the most comfortable over time. The sound is OK but I’m considering upgrading to a new pair of Sennheiser. What is the latest model that’s compares to the 201?
I have been sidelined more than once because a pair of high dollar headphones had been rendered pretty much useless due to deterioration/cracking of the leather cushions. For this reason, I started shopping for a more affordable solution, and I ran across some J Lab on-ear headphones. They run about 20 bucks at Walmart, and if something happens to a pair, you don't shed a lot of tears from simply tossing them. My mastering engineer constantly praises the mixes I get when I use them...
Patrick: I have owned the CB-1's for two years and they really hold up. I have gotten use to and compensated for the bass frequency. This is a great price point for aa durable set of headphones. Big thumbs up.
Hey, Patrick. Great review. I have two pairs of the 7506’s. I have had them twenty-five years. I just recently replaced the earpad covers. They took me a while to get used to, but I love them! Great to see you on camera! Cheers! 👍
Have mine about 20years ear pad covers cracked but I flipped them inside out and they are so much more comfortable with cotton material against my ears
Pick up a pair of microfiber / memory foam ear pads from Brainwavz or one of the other aftermarket companies. $20 and a world of difference in comfort!
@@TheGaragebandGuide I've only used them for monitoring, I haven't mixed with them yet, but I've only done a very minimal amount of mixing. They seem to sound good to me, but I don't have a lot of experience to compare them with other headphones. I have heard that the M40x may have a more flat frequency response.
ATH m30x user myself. Great FREE plug in to use in mixing - ToneBoosters TB_Morphit - normalizes the sound across a complete range of headphones - can even mix with my beast-y Beats Studio 3's! Thanks for another great vid Patrick
Patrick: Nice piece. I have low end Audio Tecnicas and they're good enough for me BUT - off topic question: Do you happen to know how to work around the problem with an iPad seeing the headpones as an external mic? It's only got the one USB C input and as soon as you plugin headphones (using a 3.5 audio to USB C adaptor) the iPad disables the internal mic. Any help would be appreciated.
Hello, your videos are very helpful so thanks and I have seen all three pairs of headphones you have advertised. I’m actually looking for a pair of headphones which have a very good quality jack plug and or replaceable jack plug if needs be. Have you seen or heard of the Beyerdynamic DT-770 and 990 models?
@@TheGaragebandGuide thanks. I’m no expert in terms of OHMS I use a Roland Duo Capture EX audio/midi interface as well plugging the headphones directly into my iPad. I’ve heard of 32, 80 and 250 HOMS but no I’m clueless haha. Can you recommend please? It’s only for home recording hobby.
Hi Patrick - I use a pair of Beyer Dynamics that I have now had for about 50 years. I still use them because Im a tight fisted so and so. I often wonder if Ive got some Scottish blood in me ;)
@@TheGaragebandGuide Our hearing degrades starting in 30s - those little hair sensors the stereocilia start breaking off causing higher frequencies to be unhearable no matter how much you boost them so as the drivers and coils degrade in old cans (heat kills off drivers) it can match the degradation in our ears giving the false impression that those old cans are still good. Well, technically they are if they play all the frequencies that you can still hear. Take a simple online hearing test w/your best cans where you can click the frequencies up/down one cent at a time and you'll be SHOCKED at how low a frequency your cans cut off and you can't hear the tone. 🎶 👀
Once again, great stuff Patrick, I wish I would have done A LOT more research be for I sank a mint into my Bose set... they lie. lol, don’t get me wrong, they are impeccable for about anything except mastering and I bet you know why. 😅😉👍🏻
A lot of users are complaining about bad quality in sound with the CB-1 headphones made after 2019, they say quality dropped a lot, can anyone confirm this?
I have them and i hate them Lol, but i can’t tell if it’s because they are honest in sound quality, or if it’s actually bad, i also don’t have any other mixing headphones that i could compare them with so i wouldn’t know.
m20x's and m30x's are better for mixing than the m50x's, since the 20 and 30's have a more neutral sound, the 50x's have a light increase in lows and highs, get the 20s or 30s for mixing, whatever you can afford both are the best professional budget mixing headphones imo. but get the 50x's for listening to professional music and movies and gaming and stuff if you want that, you can mix on them too but 20 and 30's will be more accurate.
Tolga Şimşek Hi. I have the Yamaha MT5, l like them, a bargain really, quite flat just a little v in the bass, based on the monitors NS Yamaha. At the end of the day like most Yamaha gear they’re very well put together and to my ears do a fine job! I paid around £80 for them a year ago, well respected headphones that not many know about!
A bit of trivia here. You cannot record on Gadget 2 using Zurich without using headphones. If you try using the iPad speakers, it makes a hideous shrieking sound. Feedback, I guess.
Hey Patrick!... First, how I got these, if you've ever wondered whether people win in these contests you see all over, just by giving them your name and email address, they do, and I'm proof! The band "Flying Colors" did a promotion of their first tour in Europe, and partnered with Presonus, and had a sweepstakes for portable recording equipment, plus a (medium) T-shirt, Vinyl record, CD, DVD and Blu-ray of the selected live cuts, and from Presonus, an 8-Channel to firewire input, and device that could be the slider adjustments for each channel, and the HD-7 open back headphones. As you can guess, I use the firewire input with GarageBand, but the new version with Big Sur won't work with it - yet (the jury is still out on that! It's why I keep my 10 year old iMac running High Sierra, which it DOES work!) SO, here, the HD-7; I've been using them for everything since I got them, and there's a description you use in the video of "boring", which explains these pretty good! They don't have any boost characteristics, which makes them great for mixing. Now, I do also try master playbacks on a house system as well as my car, and so far, so good! Now, I notice your comments had recommended closed-back, and these are open, but so far feedback hasn't been an issue, and I also mean any leaking; perhaps it's because Ive just wanted to hear a reference level so it's not too loud, but so far haven't heard anything, BUT... the upper piece of faux leather has broken and they won't sit correctly, so Father's Day is next weekend, so let's see if I get what I asked for! This video definitely changed the wish list! Thanks!...
A good Sonarworks alternative is the Toneboosters Morphit app. It applies an EQ curve to offset the headphones you are mixing in. Desktop and iOS app. Check it out! www.toneboosters.com/tb_morphit_v1.html
Get the Sony’s . I tried the Status and returned them, so much bass you can’t hear anything else - maybe ok if all you’re into is rap. The AT’s were ok but still muddy. The Sony’s are clear and real. If you listen to vocals or acoustic guitar these are the ones you want. If you listen to synths and beats all day, well, it doesn’t matter what you get because you’re not listening to real music anyway. 😎
I’ve mixed on them with no problem. Definitely keep an eye on the low end. I suggest TB Morphit (or something similar) when mixing on Beats By Dre. But it can definitely be done! Lol
GarageBand's BIGGEST Limitation and how to fix it: ruclips.net/video/UQXRzGftjBw/видео.html
Another useful video, thanks. I picked up a pair of AKG K550 reference headphones for £60 about 6 years ago and I don’t think I’d ever change. They have an amazingly wide and clear sound stage that I’ve never heard in any other headphones. They’re light and well-made and I’ve had no problems wearing them for six to eight hours at a time.
Sounds like a great pair of headphones! I’ll need to check them out 👍
I'm just dabbling with garageband and recording and just trying to get my head around the basic functions. I have no ambition for anyone to ever hear what I record. I'm doing it just for my own benefit. I don't have a lot of money so I picked up a set of amazon basics studio headphones for £20. I'm sure that's hilarious to all the experts out there but I think they are actually pretty good and suit my budget setup perfectly. I'm a big believer that you shouldn't get caught up with gear envy. Just use what you have. The main thing is that you enjoy what you're doing. If you get more skilled they you can upgrade later
Great video as usual!
No judgement here Mark, as you said they suit your budget and setup perfectly and that’s the main thing. 👍
As a ATH-m30x user myself, I can certainly vouch for them. I usually mix on them, then fine tune on my monitors (Eris 3.5) and I'm ready to master. True, they can get tiresome after a long session but it's better to take brakes often anyway because of ear fatigue so no big deal.
You’re absolutely right that’s a good point. 👍
When I was 16 or 17 years old I bought my first Sennheiser, the famous HD 414. Every radio DJ had one these days. Light weight, on-ear, balanced sound. That was 50 years ago. I think I used it 25 years, and then I bought the Sennheiser HD 480, which I still use. I am very pleased with it. At this point I would not know with what I should replace it if it broke. Maybe the CB1? Thanks for making this video, and all your others ones!
*Sonarworks* is a must for anyone using headphones to mix on.
Good call.
@@TheGaragebandGuide cheers 😁👍🏼
Great vid. I’m just going to throw Sennheiser into the ring. I used their HD461 headphones as my main production headphones before upgrading to the ATH m50X headphones. These and the more expensive HD471s have now been discontinued and replaced with the near-identical HD200 PRO which cost around £50. Like a lot of headphones at this price point, they do trade a premium feel for good sound but I think we can agree that that is a pretty decent trade-off
I’ve used Sennheiser headphones in the past but found them to be pretty unreliable to be honest. How do you find the m50X’s?
My HD280Pros are awesome!
@@TheGaragebandGuide amazing. They do suffer from the same wear that the M30Xs do but luckily everything is replaceable. I have used them to mix most of my most-recent songs. They just have a sound that I know and can trust. I have recently got some new headphones from Sennheiser to replace them for music-listening but I still use the M50Xs every day. They're a bargain.
I have been using Sennheiser HD 201 for some years and they are the most comfortable over time. The sound is OK but I’m considering upgrading to a new pair of Sennheiser. What is the latest model that’s compares to the 201?
I have been sidelined more than once because a pair of high dollar headphones had been rendered pretty much useless due to deterioration/cracking of the leather cushions. For this reason, I started shopping for a more affordable solution, and I ran across some J Lab on-ear headphones. They run about 20 bucks at Walmart, and if something happens to a pair, you don't shed a lot of tears from simply tossing them. My mastering engineer constantly praises the mixes I get when I use them...
Thank you for this comment. It just saved me a ton of anxiety. I'm going with this too.
@@annabradshaw213 You are welcome, Anna! Sometimes a disposable solution works best, huh?
Contemplated this for ages and went for the CB1’s, at £60 it seemed like a good place to start for my first set of mixing headphones
They’re definitely worth the price 👍
Patrick: I have owned the CB-1's for two years and they really hold up. I have gotten use to and compensated for the bass frequency. This is a great price point for aa durable set of headphones. Big thumbs up.
Nice! You can’t beat them for the price 👍
Hey, Patrick. Great review.
I have two pairs of the 7506’s. I have had them twenty-five years. I just recently replaced the earpad covers. They took me a while to get used to, but I love them! Great to see you on camera! Cheers! 👍
Cheers Thom! Yeah, I use the Sony’s most of the time when tracking and getting an initial mix together. They just sound so darn good!
Have mine about 20years ear pad covers cracked but I flipped them inside out and they are so much more comfortable with cotton material against my ears
Pick up a pair of microfiber / memory foam ear pads from Brainwavz or one of the other aftermarket companies. $20 and a world of difference in comfort!
I've had the ATH-M30x's for over 5 years. Just started using GarageBand recently.
Nice! How do you find them for working with GarageBand do far?
@@TheGaragebandGuide I've only used them for monitoring, I haven't mixed with them yet, but I've only done a very minimal amount of mixing. They seem to sound good to me, but I don't have a lot of experience to compare them with other headphones. I have heard that the M40x may have a more flat frequency response.
ATH m30x user myself. Great FREE plug in to use in mixing - ToneBoosters TB_Morphit - normalizes the sound across a complete range of headphones - can even mix with my beast-y Beats Studio 3's! Thanks for another great vid Patrick
Sounds interesting, I’ll take a look. Thanks for the recommendation 👍
Patrick: Nice piece. I have low end Audio Tecnicas and they're good enough for me BUT - off topic question: Do you happen to know how to work around the problem with an iPad seeing the headpones as an external mic? It's only got the one USB C input and as soon as you plugin headphones (using a 3.5 audio to USB C adaptor) the iPad disables the internal mic. Any help would be appreciated.
Another great vid! You deserve more subs.
Cheers Callum, thanks for watching mate 👍
Hello, your videos are very helpful so thanks and I have seen all three pairs of headphones you have advertised. I’m actually looking for a pair of headphones which have a very good quality jack plug and or replaceable jack plug if needs be. Have you seen or heard of the Beyerdynamic DT-770 and 990 models?
Haven’t used them but they have a great reputation. Make sure you get the correct version (OHMS) for your audio interface though.
@@TheGaragebandGuide thanks. I’m no expert in terms of OHMS I use a Roland Duo Capture EX audio/midi interface as well plugging the headphones directly into my iPad. I’ve heard of 32, 80 and 250 HOMS but no I’m clueless haha. Can you recommend please? It’s only for home recording hobby.
From my research a lot of engineers recommend open back headphones for mixing and closed back for recording, any thoughts about this ?
Love the Sony’s but have gone over to the KRK KNS 8400 phones ... perfect!
Hi Patrick - I use a pair of Beyer Dynamics that I have now had for about 50 years. I still use them because Im a tight fisted so and so. I often wonder if Ive got some Scottish blood in me ;)
Wow! 50 years?!
@@TheGaragebandGuide Our hearing degrades starting in 30s - those little hair sensors the stereocilia start breaking off causing higher frequencies to be unhearable no matter how much you boost them so as the drivers and coils degrade in old cans (heat kills off drivers) it can match the degradation in our ears giving the false impression that those old cans are still good. Well, technically they are if they play all the frequencies that you can still hear. Take a simple online hearing test w/your best cans where you can click the frequencies up/down one cent at a time and you'll be SHOCKED at how low a frequency your cans cut off and you can't hear the tone. 🎶 👀
Once again, great stuff Patrick, I wish I would have done A LOT more research be for I sank a mint into my Bose set... they lie. lol, don’t get me wrong, they are impeccable for about anything except mastering and I bet you know why. 😅😉👍🏻
Cheers Bubba! Yep, I can probably guess their frequency response has that hyped sound most other ‘big name’ headphone brands insist on nowadays?
TheGarageBandGuide, BINGO!👍🏻
A lot of users are complaining about bad quality in sound with the CB-1 headphones made after 2019, they say quality dropped a lot, can anyone confirm this?
I have them and i hate them Lol, but i can’t tell if it’s because they are honest in sound quality, or if it’s actually bad, i also don’t have any other mixing headphones that i could compare them with so i wouldn’t know.
Hey Patrick, new to GB. Is there any Auto tune plug ins, and if so what do you recommend?
Melda Audio have a free pitch correction plugin called MAutoPitch you might want to check out: www.meldaproduction.com/MAutoPitch
TheGarageBandGuide I used the Melda one for years. It’s awesome! For iOS,
Audiokit just released a great one also!
Side note: most of my recent mixes were done with the Apple earbuds. Sometimes I use the Sennheiser HD280 Pros. Those are nice!
m20x's and m30x's are better for mixing than the m50x's, since the 20 and 30's have a more neutral sound, the 50x's have a light increase in lows and highs, get the 20s or 30s for mixing, whatever you can afford both are the best professional budget mixing headphones imo.
but get the 50x's for listening to professional music and movies and gaming and stuff if you want that, you can mix on them too but 20 and 30's will be more accurate.
Good info there, thanks for sharing man 👍
@@TheGaragebandGuide no problem man, keep up the great content!
That’s good I’ve been looking at some m20’s as they are within my budget ,thanks
What do you think about yamaha hph-mt5 comparing the sony that you recommended on the video?
I’ve never used them before I’m afraid Tolga, so couldn’t say really. How much do they cost?
Tolga Şimşek Hi. I have the Yamaha MT5, l like them, a bargain really, quite flat just a little v in the bass, based on the monitors NS Yamaha. At the end of the day like most Yamaha gear they’re very well put together and to my ears do a fine job! I paid around £80 for them a year ago, well respected headphones that not many know about!
Thanks
Thanks for watching 🙏
Can’t find the cb-1 headphones anywhere in that same price range, I guess there’s only new and updated ones but that are $200 or more 💔
A bit of trivia here. You cannot record on Gadget 2 using Zurich without using headphones. If you try using the iPad speakers, it makes a hideous shrieking sound. Feedback, I guess.
The m30X’s audio is getting recorded by the mic for me
Hey Patrick!...
First, how I got these, if you've ever wondered whether people win in these contests you see all over, just by giving them your name and email address, they do, and I'm proof! The band "Flying Colors" did a promotion of their first tour in Europe, and partnered with Presonus, and had a sweepstakes for portable recording equipment, plus a (medium) T-shirt, Vinyl record, CD, DVD and Blu-ray of the selected live cuts, and from Presonus, an 8-Channel to firewire input, and device that could be the slider adjustments for each channel, and the HD-7 open back headphones.
As you can guess, I use the firewire input with GarageBand, but the new version with Big Sur won't work with it - yet (the jury is still out on that! It's why I keep my 10 year old iMac running High Sierra, which it DOES work!)
SO, here, the HD-7; I've been using them for everything since I got them, and there's a description you use in the video of "boring", which explains these pretty good! They don't have any boost characteristics, which makes them great for mixing. Now, I do also try master playbacks on a house system as well as my car, and so far, so good! Now, I notice your comments had recommended closed-back, and these are open, but so far feedback hasn't been an issue, and I also mean any leaking; perhaps it's because Ive just wanted to hear a reference level so it's not too loud, but so far haven't heard anything, BUT... the upper piece of faux leather has broken and they won't sit correctly, so Father's Day is next weekend, so let's see if I get what I asked for! This video definitely changed the wish list!
Thanks!...
A good Sonarworks alternative is the Toneboosters Morphit app. It applies an EQ curve to offset the headphones you are mixing in. Desktop and iOS app. Check it out! www.toneboosters.com/tb_morphit_v1.html
Completely out of context question but, is that a signed copy of ‘Questions and Answers” I see on your wall? #monthebiff
Get the Sony’s . I tried the Status and returned them, so much bass you can’t hear anything else - maybe ok if all you’re into is rap. The AT’s were ok but still muddy. The Sony’s are clear and real. If you listen to vocals or acoustic guitar these are the ones you want. If you listen to synths and beats all day, well, it doesn’t matter what you get because you’re not listening to real music anyway. 😎
...some musicians are unable to grow up ad get over themselves. you, for example.
What about Dre beats
I’d recommend staying away from Beats for mixing. The low end is so hyped up that it’s hard to produce a balanced mix.
I’ve mixed on them with no problem. Definitely keep an eye on the low end. I suggest TB Morphit (or something similar) when mixing on Beats By Dre. But it can definitely be done! Lol
They are terrible for mixing 🤣
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