The Government’s Toxic Secret at Hunters Point

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @ITSHISTORY
    @ITSHISTORY  Месяц назад +4

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  • @AB-vc7ox
    @AB-vc7ox Месяц назад +23

    Thanks for the history lesson, I grew up in 60’s 70’s SF and somehow little if any of the bay area’s wartime history was ever talked about. In our teens and 20’s the entire Bay Area was history to be explored right under our noses and about all we knew of it was that places like Hunters Point and Richmond were slums and places best avoided, nothing about the amazing contributions to the war effort. If it wasn’t for the internet the history would largely be lost and forgotten.

    • @kennethtyree4770
      @kennethtyree4770 27 дней назад

      I spent the first year of my life at base housing at Hunter's Point Naval Shipyard. My dad was an AFROTC drill instructor at SFSC from 51 to 55. The officers, the teachers lived in Marin county. In the early '90s, the SF Chronical published articles about the extensive levels of toxic waste at the Presidio. The story about Camp LeJeune is laughable. They're all toxic sites.

    • @markstevenson6635
      @markstevenson6635 23 дня назад

      Libraries still exist

  • @paulantonio740
    @paulantonio740 23 дня назад +5

    Around 2015 I checked out some of the new housing being constructed at the Shipyard. I asked the rep from the development about the area being a Superfund site. He said all the toxins and waste were cleaned up, and then changed the subject. Needless to say, I looked elsewhere.

  • @andrewadams3894
    @andrewadams3894 Месяц назад +20

    Part of the closed shipyard was once home to the Golden Gate Railroad Museum. They may have been displaced by cleanup operations. They first moved to the Niles Canyon Railroad and later moved to Schellville. Had the museum been able to stay, the place might have retained something of its industrial character.

  • @kevingrant2326
    @kevingrant2326 29 дней назад +5

    My dad was stationed at Hunters point 1970 - 72 . We lived on Treasure Island at that time . I used to walk all around Hunters point when I was there . I saw the USS Enterprise in dry dock there , walked right up to the guard rail at the bow of the ship ,looked up ,looked down . Man that's a big ship !

  • @jbartlet827
    @jbartlet827 Месяц назад +12

    Just across the water on Alameda Island. The old NAS here is a little farther along in the process. We had years of trucks hauling contaminated top soil out and clean (hopefully) soil back in. Today the old base is home to new housing, a marine life sanctuary and a number of wineries and distilleries. It's still a little gross, but far better than Hunter's Point. Hopefully the Point will get there one day. Great video!

  • @Jason-7212
    @Jason-7212 Месяц назад +20

    The US is in des[erate need of shipyards capable of producing large military vessels as since the end of WW II the government has privatized most all of the Naval Shipyards we had. Those shipyards have either closed of downsized to the point that they are no longer capable of producing Naval Vessels as maintaining that capability was not cost efficient. Today the US has less than 5 shipyards capable of building surface warships out of the more than 2-3 dozen that either belonged to the US government or were under contract to the US government at the end of WW II.

  • @EzrbcinNV
    @EzrbcinNV 25 дней назад +7

    I spent 6 months at Hunters Point with the Ranger(CV61) gfor major repairs in 1971. That surrounding neighborhood was nasty. I felt safer in Vietnam.

    • @johnsmith-po1uo
      @johnsmith-po1uo 14 дней назад

      @@EzrbcinNV , me too mike e, v-4 div. Lived on base just inside “that” gate in the old ww2 barracks with my wife. Still together.

  • @senorowlando
    @senorowlando Месяц назад +6

    I lived on Treasure Island from 2008 to 2010 and that place had a fair amount of radioactive materials still being found only 18 inches from the surface of people’s front lawns. Apparently the radiological activity going on at Hunters Point was related to studies being done there as well. Treasure Island was sold to the city of San Francisco for only $1 because it’s still a superfund site to this day. 🇺🇸

  • @schmidt028
    @schmidt028 Месяц назад +22

    I made a model of the hunters point shipyard crane that’s hand cut steel and Tig welded together it’s big enough that you can put an 80 inch television on top of it and it lives in myliving room

    • @MrSupermotoracer
      @MrSupermotoracer Месяц назад +1

      don't forget the Herman the German

    • @williamlloyd3769
      @williamlloyd3769 Месяц назад +1

      Herman the German was working at the Long Beach Naval Shipyard when I was stationed there in 1970s. The floating crane was sold and is now working around the Panama Canal area

  • @user-xm8rf6ik7b
    @user-xm8rf6ik7b 28 дней назад +5

    We built the new homes out there . They shipped the dirt out at night and brought new dirt in . Everyone had skin issues on site . This was in 2012 . The place is toxic !

  • @BadlandNP
    @BadlandNP Месяц назад +2

    I believe USS Carl Vinson was the last carrier to use the drydock. We were there in 1987 when I discharged. We were told to be sure we had full gas tanks in our vehicles, don't stop for gas until you got to the I-280 gas station and to never walk off the base. Gunshots occasionally in the night up in the old housing area just off base. Wild times! And sad to see the decline and loss of our shipyard abilities.

    • @dogsense3773
      @dogsense3773 29 дней назад +2

      This shipyard closed in 1974, I was there, retired park service here, right now in san Francisco the lowest murder rate in 60 years, not kidding

    • @BadlandNP
      @BadlandNP 27 дней назад +3

      @@dogsense3773 Yes, but they opened it up for us due to a need to replace a bent screw. We entered the drydock May of 1987 and I discharged in June, from the drydock. Fun seeing that big old ship in the dock!
      I am glad to hear things are better there. We heard gunshots up in the housing almost nightly from the barracks they put us in near the drydock.

  • @brucelytle1144
    @brucelytle1144 Месяц назад +18

    I do not understand why the government gave up all of it's shipyards! Philadelphia, Brookland, Charleston, Long Beach, and of course Hunters Point.

    • @smedley5215
      @smedley5215 Месяц назад +5

      And Mare Island, also in the SF bay.

    • @brucelytle1144
      @brucelytle1144 Месяц назад +3

      @smedley5215 You're right there! I lived in Vallejo, a friend ran the bridge there! They used to build fast attacks (and many other types over the years!).

    • @Oldbmwr100rs
      @Oldbmwr100rs Месяц назад +6

      And NAS Alameda, and the Oakland army base. But you can thank Oakland's Ron Dellums, Bill Clinton and of course Dianne Feinstein for them demanding the government close all of the most expensive military bases. Dellums was in shock when he was told two of them were in his very own voting district!

    • @kimmer6
      @kimmer6 Месяц назад +5

      @@brucelytle1144 Diane Feinstein had a lot to do with killing off ship repair in the SF Bay Area. This could have been another Bremerton repair facility if it wasn't for her. Mare Island was in the process of dying in 1991 when I worked on some ships there going to the Desert Storm operation. Thanks Feinstein.

    • @thecasper911
      @thecasper911 Месяц назад +3

      Word has it that the navy is trying to possibly reopen Hunter's Point because it needs the carrier dry dock space, and the navy still owns that part of the shipyard!

  • @zublacus
    @zublacus Месяц назад +7

    Sitting as a kid at Candlestick park, watching Willie Mays roam Centerfield I'd look over and see that giant candy kane red and white crane.

  • @Chronicheaven
    @Chronicheaven Месяц назад +7

    I lived in Hunter's point for 10 months during this century.
    First night in the hood there was a shooting half a block up on my side of the street.
    2nd night at my apt., there was a shooting 2 blocks down on my side of the street. Then there were like 6 days without a shooting. Then there was one on the opposite side of the street down by the library. This was all on Rivera, 1 block south of Palou.
    Mother Brown's was around the corner, South a block. This was all off the 3rd St. Bart. East at Palou or Rivera

    • @bryanthompson12
      @bryanthompson12 Месяц назад +2

      @@Chronicheaven hmm…sounds like Bayview

    • @724bigal
      @724bigal 20 дней назад

      Sounds like democrats were in charge?

  • @jmd1743
    @jmd1743 Месяц назад +33

    America's ship building capacity will never recover just like Britain's ship building industry. The USA had 30 years to prepare for today's mass retirement of the remaining ship yard workers. America's ship building industry was great during ww2 due to multiple generations of institutional knowledge.
    What's the problem is that we had multi generational grooming the next generation to forgo trades. Boomers & GenXers told their kids to prioritize white collar jobs over trades.
    What the Boomers are upset about in regards to the trades worker shortage is that the Grandchildren of the Jones won't "accept their place" in society by becoming septic tank pumpers, the boomers never really wanted to see their own grandchildren pump septic tanks, work in factories, roof houses until they retire. The boomers in stead wanted their own grandchildren to become engineers, doctors, programers, and not people who weld for a living.
    The stage at which they became upset was when they found that there was a waiting list for services such as septic tank pumping,plumbing, and roofing not once did they wish for their own grandchildren to fill in the worker vacancy.

    • @SB-qm5wg
      @SB-qm5wg Месяц назад

      The US has more nuke subs than all of UK's navy.

    • @Harley.Davidson
      @Harley.Davidson Месяц назад

      😂

    • @sc1338
      @sc1338 Месяц назад +1

      There’s always a chance… we’re America after all. We might just get Tesla bots to do it 😂

    • @brucelytle1144
      @brucelytle1144 Месяц назад +4

      Boomer here... No, I encouraged my kids to pursue the trades. Daughter was too smart for everyone, no skills today. Her daughter though, is an iron worker, making the BIG $!

    • @SkipShooter
      @SkipShooter Месяц назад +3

      @@brucelytle1144 I encourage my 4 daughters to take an apprenticeship,get PAID a living wage to learn. Unlike college where you pay for a degree that’s gonna be outdated by the time you finish. Proud IBB Boilermaker Local 193 Baltimore

  • @orlandogreen512
    @orlandogreen512 Месяц назад +2

    Also they used to have the 15 Navy Yard from off of 3rd Street going to the shipyards going up and down Paulo Street

  • @IndyPhil
    @IndyPhil Месяц назад +50

    Drinking game: Take a shot every time he says "Hunters Point" 🥴🥃

    • @tomcat6458
      @tomcat6458 Месяц назад +9

      I accept your challenge with a bottle of crown

    • @stevevanderbol6461
      @stevevanderbol6461 Месяц назад +10

      Oh f@ck that would cause alcohol poisoning. Ok. I'm in. Lol

    • @TerryFelixx
      @TerryFelixx Месяц назад +5

      19 seconds in and I'm already downing shot number 2😂

    • @tomcat6458
      @tomcat6458 Месяц назад +1

      @@TerryFelixx best of luck hopefully you don’t work on Saturday 😂 my boss immediately called me out this morning

    • @SusieDaw-ix6pv
      @SusieDaw-ix6pv Месяц назад +3

      @@IndyPhil I counted 22 times, and 3 times in the intro. Somebody stop this world, I'm dizzy. Lol

  • @dgsantafedave1
    @dgsantafedave1 23 дня назад

    I worked for Carpenter Rigging and Supply back in 1988 and the commute there was pretty sketchy! A lot of old buildings that were boarded up and a very dystopian scene! Worked 12 hours days and made a grip of cash though!

  • @raisinbartholamew5864
    @raisinbartholamew5864 Месяц назад +2

    I remember going to a new years warehouse party by or at hunters point in 99 Good times good memories!!

  • @724bigal
    @724bigal 20 дней назад +2

    How many Artists does a city need?

  • @bxdanny
    @bxdanny Месяц назад +3

    When I saw the name Hunters Point, i thought of the neighborhood in Queens, NYC that goes by that name (not to be confused with Hunts Point in the Bronx). Luckily for us New Yorkers, this was about a completely different Hunters Point.

    • @295g295
      @295g295 7 дней назад

      This video's title reminded me of Hunt's Point in Bronx.
      (food distribution center?)

  • @rocketdude2969
    @rocketdude2969 Месяц назад +1

    Its good that they are saving a place with such a rich history . That ship yard must have seen a lot of ships over the years.

  • @bigmacjamie
    @bigmacjamie Месяц назад +3

    Always look forward to your videos

  • @caninekathy7740
    @caninekathy7740 Месяц назад +5

    my father worked there at hunters point when I was born in 62 but he had already been working there for some years after World War II. I don’t remember when he stopped working there. I think I was around five they once had the USS enterprise docked there
    I actually began working at Mare Island naval shipyard in 1984 until President Clinton close the base down

    • @dogsense3773
      @dogsense3773 29 дней назад +1

      It was the brac commission that did the bases in, not bill , no one gets this right

    • @caninekathy7740
      @caninekathy7740 29 дней назад

      @
      The BRAC Commission submits a list of recommended base closures and realignments to the president.
      The president reviews the recommendations and decides whether to approve or disapprove the list in its entirety.

    • @s.porter8646
      @s.porter8646 15 дней назад

      ​@@dogsense3773Clinton put it in overdrive, no one that didn't serve in the military gets that right

    • @dogsense3773
      @dogsense3773 14 дней назад

      @@s.porter8646 navy 73-77 army 77-94, all these bases were falling apart, mare island dry docks were a joke, the 89 earth quake did lots of damage to letterman hospital, I was in it when it hit, lots of damage to YBI buildings, the criminals in Oakland robbing sailors didn't help Alameda plus all military hospitals in bay area needed 40 million dollars earthquake upgrades each, I know this because I was on the inspection team writing doing building inspections, we knew no money was going to upgrade anything

  • @SkyPilot54
    @SkyPilot54 Месяц назад +2

    I tried to lease the drydock, familiar with the environmental situation, also at mare island ,

    • @artiglesias9317
      @artiglesias9317 18 дней назад

      Mare Island Naval Ship Yard is haunted. {MINSY}.

  • @danielduffy4134
    @danielduffy4134 19 дней назад +1

    They should turning back into what it was, that was awesome times.

  • @JohnDough-yr2zt
    @JohnDough-yr2zt 15 дней назад

    I remember the mothball fleet visible from the Martinez bridge. Surprised by no mention of the explosion.

  • @antonioperez2623
    @antonioperez2623 Месяц назад +2

    It seems to be a waste of a great facility that other countries wish they had.

  • @gmello831
    @gmello831 Месяц назад

    I remember going to Giants game when i was 9 or 10 and looking out and seeing the crane. Always wondered what it was thanks

  • @paulhunter1735
    @paulhunter1735 Месяц назад +11

    What an absolute waste of a former base and port that we drastically need back in full swing with the US having so many old ships and needing so many new ones built. But does the government get it going again........nope lets let some flower children with paint brushes rent spots there so they can waste the space and build some housing lol. It should be returned to being a naval shipyard and base and be kept so forever. We don't need more so called artists........we need ships built and repaired.

    • @terrellbradshaw3504
      @terrellbradshaw3504 Месяц назад +1

      @@paulhunter1735 you act as though it’s the new residents that closed the shipyard 🤦🏾‍♂️ you want to be mad at someone, you only need to look at the DoD and Congress. Go educate yourself

    • @paulhunter1735
      @paulhunter1735 Месяц назад +5

      @@terrellbradshaw3504 Maybe you should have paid attention to what i wrote. I was basically saying that the government and the NAVY needs to get their heads out of their asses and get this shipyard back to work since our ships are getting old and out dated and not enough of them being built.

    • @timpetta2974
      @timpetta2974 Месяц назад

      Someone with an education places a period at the end of a sentence.

  • @alecs6492
    @alecs6492 28 дней назад +1

    When you live here, it’s called “The gentrified part of hunters point.”

  • @tiffanyganton550
    @tiffanyganton550 Месяц назад

    This is bonkers you made a video about this, i skate here and JUST did a deep dive on it

  • @terrelmchenry9524
    @terrelmchenry9524 Месяц назад

    NICE PICTURE OF THE RANGER,HANCOCK AND CORAL SEA...

  • @MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive
    @MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive 26 дней назад

    I know so many people in the Bayview Hunter's Point who won't drink the tap water from their home because everyone is aware of the pollution.

  • @tougedriver
    @tougedriver Месяц назад +11

    Fun Fact - the show Mythbusters has filmed here

    • @Jonny_Mac707
      @Jonny_Mac707 Месяц назад +3

      I believe the final episode was filmed in HP also

    • @2dogsmowing
      @2dogsmowing Месяц назад +2

      Is it the same place where Mythbusters lost the hand made cannon (I think that what it was) and Adam was kind of bummed not finding it. Because of the time he put into making it.

    • @jimwjohnq.public
      @jimwjohnq.public Месяц назад +1

      The Mythbusters also did a show at Alameda involving the myth about what would happen if you threw a car into reverse at 60 mph.

    • @jimwjohnq.public
      @jimwjohnq.public Месяц назад +1

      ​@@2dogsmowingI thought they deliberately blew it up by putting a couple of pounds of gunpowder down the barrel and then plugging it.

    • @2dogsmowing
      @2dogsmowing Месяц назад

      @@jimwjohnq.public I think they just blew up the cannon that way. I believe it was empty when they did that.

  • @pinetree9343
    @pinetree9343 7 дней назад

    My father worked there for thirty plus years. Not surprisingly, he and many of his coworkers developed cancer. Speaking with his doctor who had also treated other coworkers, denied links to cancer through Hunter's point. As a scientist myself, this denial smacks of conspiracy. As I told him, " would you be surprised if I told you that ,17 of 23 coworkers developed Cancer?" He gave some excuse. I said would you be at all surprised if I told you that 11 of those coworkers were patients of this doctor. At that point, he turned and walked away. This doctor was part of the cover-up.

  • @mattberg916
    @mattberg916 Месяц назад +1

    No mention of asbestos?

  • @Peter421
    @Peter421 Месяц назад +1

    "Thousands working day and night." Now, the unemployment rate in that area is quite staggering. Lmao

  • @ericpaulgoldie
    @ericpaulgoldie Месяц назад +1

    Rule One never touch their boats.

  • @alexcuster1280
    @alexcuster1280 Месяц назад +1

    Couldn't make it past the peaceful natives living in harmony with the universe.

  • @NoahSpurrier
    @NoahSpurrier Месяц назад

    Is it still a superfund site?
    I used to live near there. There were some great restaurants near there.

  • @SkyPilot54
    @SkyPilot54 Месяц назад +1

    I purchased and scrapped tail cars from the railroad museum, at hunters point ,

  • @glenjo0
    @glenjo0 Месяц назад +4

    Something to consider - why are most super fund sites former government facilities? Because they kept the records rather than throwing them out like private corporations.

    • @mkay1957
      @mkay1957 Месяц назад

      @@glenjo0 Not true. During WW2 and after, 2 of my grandpa's friends worked at Mare Island naval shipyard, another at a small munitions factory during the war, and another at the Naval refueling facility at Pt. Molate. Nobody gave a second thought to throwing metals into the water, or dumping contaminated fuel or some other chemical in the Bay or its tributaries, or on the ground in or near the facility. Nobody kept records of that BS because back then, nobody gave thought to the damage it was causing and nobody cared.
      All of the crap they find at old military bases was found by taking soil and water samples.
      You just wanted to take a shot at "evil" corporate America, right?

  • @OGStoneVegas
    @OGStoneVegas 21 день назад

    don't give me no bammer joints, we don't smoke that shit in hunters point

  • @MrSupermotoracer
    @MrSupermotoracer Месяц назад

    I see my shop!!!!

  • @michaelwhite2823
    @michaelwhite2823 Месяц назад

    Oh wow. I never knew what that huge white building was. I've seen it from the freeway most of my life.

  • @mrjim1973
    @mrjim1973 Месяц назад +17

    Well artists will NOT defend our country very well. I'd rather see this area rehabilitated as a modern navel base.

    • @jme36053
      @jme36053 Месяц назад +7

      @mrjim1973 - I’d rather it stay a Naval base too rather than going to belly buttons. ;-)

  • @TYBO-xl1xz
    @TYBO-xl1xz Месяц назад

    I’m on the 7 train so when I saw Hunter’s Point I’m thinking Queens New York 😂

  • @ReneTodLaizer
    @ReneTodLaizer Месяц назад

    So what was the contamination???

    • @maxpower9848
      @maxpower9848 26 дней назад

      Radiation from all the atomic tests they did on the ships. Remember all the videos where the ships were moored out in the Pacific Ocean and they were bombed? They took all those back to Hunter's point when they were done testing.

  • @jmd1743
    @jmd1743 Месяц назад

    00:47 what a surreal looking panting like photo.

    • @rtz549
      @rtz549 Месяц назад

      @@jmd1743 thought the same thing. Had to pause it and really look it over.

  • @jeremycole8663
    @jeremycole8663 Месяц назад

    So cool

  • @skipstreet
    @skipstreet 28 дней назад

    Is Hunters Point Treasure Island or is that a separate location.

    • @maxpower9848
      @maxpower9848 26 дней назад +1

      Treasure Island is between Oakland and San francisco. That's where the Bay bridge goes right by. Treasure Island is to the north of the Bay bridge slightly.

    • @kennethtyree4770
      @kennethtyree4770 22 дня назад

      @@maxpower9848 yerba Buena Island is in the middle not Treasure Island. Yerba Buena Island is real. Treasure Island is fake, an old airport.

  • @Mark-jb9hx
    @Mark-jb9hx Месяц назад

    Wow, 3 minutes in and still haven't started. This is horrible.

  • @Thepuffingyank
    @Thepuffingyank Месяц назад +1

    So 🤔the city butchered the butcher business within the city limits?

  • @paulfields6253
    @paulfields6253 Месяц назад +1

    Your patch is upside down.
    Pce

  •  Месяц назад

    Waite " Nuk ya ler" ? please... im gone

  • @timberrr1126
    @timberrr1126 27 дней назад

    The atomic bomb was assembled here.

  • @dylanmorrison8516
    @dylanmorrison8516 23 дня назад

    It’s not a secret guy

  • @pinverarity
    @pinverarity 20 дней назад

    CLICKBAIT ALERT: there is no mention of _any_ kind of “secret” in this video.

  • @engineeranonymous
    @engineeranonymous Месяц назад +5

    And now China's shipbuilding capacity is 232 times greater than US.

  • @charlesfaure1189
    @charlesfaure1189 18 дней назад

    Two three-minute-plus commercials within a span of three minutes. Content providers need to be held accountable for letting the site do this. Blocked. Buh-bye.

  • @Balthorium
    @Balthorium Месяц назад +2

    Land gained directly from Mexico in 1850 that was private property and part of a grant is not subject to California’s confiscatory coastal land grab. California argued in court they never sold this part of the property, but that would rely on them owning it in the first place, which they didn’t Mexico did. This does not deter evil California Democrats from pursuing this illegal stealing of private property despite the Supreme Court case ruling on the subject Summa corporation versus California lands.

  • @davidgenie-ci5zl
    @davidgenie-ci5zl Месяц назад +3

    The Navy needs to take it back, it is a great asset.

  • @EGSBiographies-om1wb
    @EGSBiographies-om1wb Месяц назад

    89th

  • @robclawson3185
    @robclawson3185 Месяц назад

    Shifty video

  • @ModMokkaMatti
    @ModMokkaMatti Месяц назад

    Hunter Biden's Point?

  • @DAVIDVICK-m9r
    @DAVIDVICK-m9r Месяц назад

    OLD NEWS

  • @bongwelll
    @bongwelll Месяц назад

    Damn I thought it was "Hunts point" in the Bronx.

  • @A_to_Zappa
    @A_to_Zappa Месяц назад

    Candlestick Park... There and gone.

  • @TYBO-xl1xz
    @TYBO-xl1xz Месяц назад

    I’m on the 7 train so when I saw Hunter’s Point I’m thinking Queens New York 😂