In the late 1950’s I good friend of mine visited the island to acquire some civil was surplus sharps ammunition, he told me that the buildings were made of concrete that used cannon and rifle barrels as rebar,(the barrels were cheaper than rebar) out front he saw 2 hotchkiss mountain guns, one complete,and one with a damaged breech, both listed for 25 dollars, after getting inside he was amazed by the literal mountains of moldy leather civil war surplus ammo belts and cases, as well as piles of Spanish American war arms. Most of the gun parts and accessories were sold to a man named Val Forgett , founder of the company Navy Arms , a business that still sells those parts from bannerman island.
I had the pleasure to meet Val Forgett, sometime around 1980 at his store in Ridgefield , NJ. A very interesting guy who sold some very interesting guns. It was my vague understanding that Val had bought Bannerman's Island at some point, but I have no details.
Taking a tour of this Island was at the top of my bucket list. Despite the limits on how close you are allowed to get to the main building, I really enjoyed the tour. There is a smaller building that I had no idea was on the island that cannot be seen from the water. It was used as a residence at some point, and people are allowed inside it.
It's a shame it isn't cared for and made into a money making tourist attraction. It has quite the history and the castle would be really cool of they had taken care of it
@@jomama5186 It is cared for. The remaining part of main warehouse building has been stabilized. There are paid tours, and plays and concerts held on the island. A non-profit was established some years ago to make this all happen.
It depends, comment reading can go on during and after the listen. Unless you get an argument between a troll and some otherwise well meaning stupid human. That ruins the comments.
@ITSHISTORY We visited Bannerman Castle last year in Sept. The tour was great and we arrived by boat with about 100 people. The tour guide mentioned that story about the boat accident. You are in the island for over an hour on a guided tour and then allowed to go around and photograph until the next pick-up boat arrives. The heat of the sun is INTENSE, and you need to bring spray or lotion to protect the skin and wear a hat, any hat! People are not allowed to be near the castle for safety reasons but when we walked up the mountain to the old home you get great views. Fun fact, you can see bald eagles' nests on the trees by the river on the way to the island, and one bald eagle in particular is so used to the boat on the way back he perched on the front of the boat. The captain warned people not to be near it since it's a huge wild animal. He flew away when the boat got near the bay, like the eagle was the new boat guide.
Very well done! During my many train trips over the years from Albany to NYC, I always sit on the right side of the coach to observe the river and its many attractions. Bannnerman's Island and West Point being just two of them. It's one of the most beautiful train trips in the United States.
I ended up passing Bannerman's Island sort of unexpectedly around 15+ years ago. I was out there for a job, and I was driven by someone else without knowing or caring where it was. I was sort of frustrated when I looked out the window to see this pass me by. I had wanted to check this out but there wasn't any way I could.
Yes, same here. I have done so many train rides from Beacon to NYC and enjoyed seeing the castle and West Point, and the cliffs and monasteries up on the hills.
I heard that that's the only safe way to view the castle. But aren't there some debris from his boats(? I'm not sure what kind he used to ship products off the island ?
@@ksgraham3477 there have been efforts to clean the Hudson. The leader of the kayak trip said he swims in it but does not put his head under. I was out there for over two hours there was no smell. I did not get very wet either.
I used to have a Bannermans catalog when I was younger. Would pick out all sorts of different items wishing I could have. The prices were amazing for items that today would go for thousands of dollars. Still wish I had it today. Didn't know what I had back then.
Pollepel translates to ladle. So Pollepel Eiland in Dutch translates to Ladle Island. Funny to see our Dutch language and names in the United States and all across the globe :)
@@lillekenatnek195 om de geschiedenis van het nederlands in de verenigde staten te leren kennen moet je beslist ns " De Tawl" van Philip Dröge lezen.....ook nadat nieuw amsterdam New York werd bleef het nog in vele stadjes ten noorden van Manhattan de voertaal..ik klikte vooral op dit filmpje omdat ik wou weten hoe ze pollepel zouden uitspreken 😉🤭...
Actually it is a spoon, usually wooden, but also other materials are used like plastic and metal. It is used for stirring. In Belgian it is a ladle and more used for serving up soup and gravy. It is used in the same sense in the Netherlands, but not very often. 'Pol' means the rounding of a hand held as a cup, which has transferred to the utensil.
@@johngavin2570 Those are actually Germans, not Dutch. I know it's confusing and there are a lot of 'ethnic' Dutch living there. But in this case the Dutch refers to Deutsch. Dutch was just more common in use, probably because New York used to be New Amsterdam originally. Everything sounding Germanic was called Dutch. I actually made the same mistake as a kid in Australia, when I couldn't tell the difference between the two languages, even though I'm of Dutch decent and ended up living in the Netherlands.
I’m local to this area and from what I understood this was more an army surplus thing and not a family of weapons dealers. The whole way the story has been spun is different than anything I’d read about it. I’ve had a hard time watching it
@@jrde50 yeah, the person collected surplus munitions. And some years later it caught fire. they contemplated stabilizing it for years but waited too long and half of it collapsed before they finally decided to do so. though most of my family moved to Florida in more recent decades, my family immigrated and lived in Newburgh from 1869 until around 1920.
So he was falsely accused of something which was then fueled by the media, creating mass public confusion, and they arrested those responsible for the errant waste of resources and money. If only those using that slimy playbook still faced consequences for their actions…
I grew up nearby just East of Peekskill. Used to hike Breakneck Ridge and Stormking Mtn. Never knew about that Island's history until now. Fascinating!
Cool video! I’ve gone past Bannerman Castle so many times as a kid. We used to sail up and down the Hudson every summer. I always wondered about that castle but had forgotten about it for years.
The Dutch word "pollepel" is more specific than the English word "ladle". It refers specifically to the flat, wooden spoon used only for stirring the soup or sauce. So not the more generic assembly of various cooking spoons that "ladle" refers to, including also metal ones and the bowl shaped examples that can also be used to actually serve/scoop the soup/sauce. So even though "pollepel" formally translates to "ladle", their meanings are not fully interchangeable.
That's only correct for Belgian Dutch. In the Netherlands a pollepel usually refers to a flat wooden spoon to stir food while cooking. It would be quite tedious to serve soup with that.
Hi, I'm Dutch and a "pollepel" is a spoon. A big spoon that is either wooden to stir or a deep spoon to scoop the soup into a bowl or dish. I think people use the term for multiple spoon types. It's a funny name for an island. I think that they named it like that because it looks like an upside down deep spoon, a "pollepel". It's unbelievable but there is a fancy dance in Holland called the "Stuyvesant Ball" named after Peter Stuyvesant who sold New Amsterdam, now called 'New York' (You might have heard of it...) for the amazing price of 1 Dutch gildern. Why they celebrate it is beyond me, imagine if the Dutch had a bigger stake in the USA. Maybe we Dutch people could have immigrated or work easier in the US like we could in the colonies. I would have loved to go to the States and work there. Not that it's impossible now but it is not easy either. Anyway, (wooden) spoon island. I'd love to visit it, these kind of places are awesome. Nice video and great history lessons...
@iclite3656 wow best wishes but just between us: you are ruining the mood a little bit... Maybe the past is something that nobody can change and it's likely that nobody in your direct environment has or had any significant influence on the past either... So Maybe have a merry Christmas and a happy New year with you family and friends and be really happy that you are safe and healthy unlike a lot of people today... And if you still have all kind of political issues take it up with the politicians, they are doing all the stuff your so upset about!
I visited Pollepel Island and saw Bannerman castle pre-collapse back in about 2008, you could take a boat tour from Beacon to the island as a walking/ guided tour. It was quite an amazing place. I wish i could have seen it before the fire, but at least i saw it before so many of the walls collapsed !
I have several original Bannerman sales catalogs along with a rope tension drum I purchased several years ago. The drum was one that was used in the original Red Badge Of Courage”movie. The seller had purchased several semi trailers full of firearms, swords, drums, and a myriad of other military items that the prop company had originally purchased from Bannerman’s and sold it all on ebay.
The boat that takes you to and from Bannerman's is the same one my class at Dutchess County BOCES (DAES- Dutchess Academy of Environmental Science) used to study the Hudson in the early 2000s. Very fond memories. Also highly recommend the tour at this place !
The Indian's referred to the island as Menahtis, meaning small island. In 1965 the Bannerman family donated the Capsan from the Battleship Kentucky to the Smithsonian. A neighbor's uncle was part of the crew who helped recover it from the island.
The Indians didn't call it anything. India is on the other side of the globe. My ancestors didn't come from India, they came from the Americas. We are Native Americans or First Nations peoples, not Indians.
"I'll build an arsenal on an island, far from any fire services, and then I'll go live next to all the gunpowder stored there." "Great idea! Just be sure you don't consult any engineers or architects and you have the whole thing constructed by amateurs."
Pollepel in dutch is the wooden spoon you use to stir in the pot. Pol means hollow not pot. Pot means pot in dutch same as english as is pan as well. Lepel means spoon.
I have had the privilege to visit Pollepel Island on several occasions as well as work on the island. It is a fascinating place to visit. Thank you Ryan for this post. Once again you are on point.
Tis’ folly indeed when what was once another’s dream goes against neglectful family, vandals, subsequent owners, tragic events of their own making, weather and the passing time in nature which forever steals a place back to itself. I have seen more of this than I like to admit. Fine job with this video Mr. Socash. Have you considered one on Gilletes Castle?
Great job on the video. I actually live about 30 minutes from what we all called the castle. I remember back in the late 80’s and 90 riding by it on the train on the way to Grand Central Station, making sure never missed my quick view. In the early 2000’s I owned a jet ski docked never the island and was able to explore it. There was much to see but it was still a cool experience to have.
I'm local to this area, I spend lots of time on the river. It was about a year ago I finally booked a tour. It was a great experience. If you are touring the Hudson Valley, it's a wonderful destination. Throughout the island, the trail is loaded with beautiful gardens. It's under video surveillance so don't think about trespassing.
Wish you did not just use kilometers when stating the size of the island. We do not use that measurement for land here in the US. I had to look it up! It is approx 1,606 sq acres, or approx 2.5 sq miles. Tiny!!
Been there! A year ago and It was an experience 😮 much decayed but tour was informative … there’s also a small museum there as well in what used to be the summer residence I think
Still haven't been able to find the island I once saw talked about in passing on TV many years ago. Some island in the middle of a raging and dangerous river, with an abandoned hospital on it with the equipment still in there, but it's illegal to go to the island because of the dangerous waters around it.
I think you might be referring to North Brother Island on the East River. Google maps views shows LOTS of abandoned infrastructure on and around the island. It is located right next to the infamous "Rikers Island Prison".
3:50 story is okay, but you weren't very careful on the pictures/image. You post an image of Brooklyn Bridge about 40years premature of its existence as the drafts for foundations were sketched in 1867 and bridge began construction in 1870 and completed in 1883-- so your timing is really way off. The "castle" was built in 1901 which is about 20 years before Prohibition which was 1920-1922. You just mish everything together without much careful accuracy. Maybe the agreement was to keep island alcohol free, but has almost nothing to do with Prohibition. Canadian Prohibition 1918=1920. So not exactly accurate.
You know, political movements are like waves. They start off way in the distance before they come to shore. Like prohibition. The move started after the civil war and came to a head in the 1920s.
I wish you spent more time on Thom Johnson, he is the expert on the Island. I lived next to him in Peekskill when he was writing his book on the ruins.
Proving the fact that no-one cares as much as the originator. Children are an especially cruel interpretation of even those supposedly closest to you, they could not care less. Tragic.
Unless the OG builder (of whatever) takes the time and effort to build a connection with their kids. Specially teaching them about why one does or builds what they build. Then the children are vested in the project. And no, just telling them one time does not count. It’s a constant teaching them about you. Most parent today fail to do that because 1. They assume schools will teach them 2. They are too busy in their personal lives (that one is big because the children will specially hate the project that stole their father) 3. Parents are stuck with their heads in the sand expecting this level of respect from their children and complete obedience without a relationship based on caring for each other. 4. Parents over protect their children and raise wussies 5. The devil.
A Pollepel is a spoon with a long handel used by chefs to stir/taste things like soup or sauces. It can be a wooden spoon but a metal soup ledel is also called a pollepel.
"Pollepel" (a compound word consisting of pol + lepel) is the Dutch word for a simple wooden spoon as used to stir soup, sauce or gravy. However, the name pollepel does not refer to the pan itself.
Back in high school, around ‘98 or 99, My 3 friends and I sailed up and anchored off the island, used a small inflatable to get ashore and explored the whole place- it was in rough shape then as well -totally collapsed, we spent half a day crawling around the ruins-never saw any of the wild dogs a sign warned us about thankfully!
I HAVE VERY OCCASIONALLY RODE AMTRAK BETWEEN NYC AND ALBANY NY. I NOTICED THE BANNERMAN CASTLE AND WONDERED WHY SOMEONE WOULD BUILD AND THEN NEGLECT THE PLACE! TODAY WITH THIS POST , IT IS MYSTERY SOLVED!!😊😊
What a terrible shame! How awful, that Mr. Bannerman put such effort into it and created such lovely castes on it, only to have it go to ruin. I would love to be the one able to restore it to its former glory, and more!
I grew up in Fishkill New York the area where Bannerman's Castle is located never knew what the proper name of the island was we always called it Bannerman's Island
Very interesting! One correction: There's no monolith there as none of it it made from one big rock. A good example of a monolith is the Kailasa Temple in India.
Well done! And no, I didn’t realize you were running a fever and had the ‘flu! The Mom in me is hoping that you grabbed your water bottle and went back to bed after you recorded this. LOL I have never even heard of this island, so this was a fascinating tour for me - thank you!
so a pol lepel is a thing in dutch the word translates to ladel in english, the island was probaply named after a ladel as it might resemble the shape in one way or another.
Respectfully, a correction is recommended. The Spanish-American War [5:21] did not start in 1892. Hostilities were from April 21st to December 10th, 1898).
I remember as a kid taking the train from Philly to nyc and then to Albany to visit my dad and seeing this on my way there was always so damn cool and i always wondered who built it
'Pollepel' is indeed a Dutch word and means ladle or serving spoon. Litterally it is a contraction of the words pot (pot) and lepel (spoon), so a large spoon to stir or serve from a pot for boiling food. When said together these words transformed into the word 'pollepel' which is still in use in Dutch today. A very unique name for an island indeed.
It's ok to be busy when ill, but do remember you are ill. For a flu, fluids, and try to rest and not exert yourself. Remember, you heal better when you feel better. Take care, get well, and I'll be looking for more content.
Pollepel translates to "spoon for pot" (the big ones as shown in the video) Today it means a long stem spoon either made of wood or metal for stirring or for serving from a pot. Pol=pot , lepel=spoon
Suggestion; build a grand Four Lane Bridge linking the island to the mainland. A Pedestrian bridge along one side. A bicycling bridge along the other side. Close bridge off three times each year for drag-racing. Errect appartments along the bridge's upper sides, like England once did during the 1300s. Rich spectators can rent various apartments as spectators. Workers on the island may buy or lease one of these apartments affordably as a discount for their continued zeal in doing a job well doe and loyalty to the island's upkeep. " Teamwork makes the Dream work. "
@@mamazannie6060 Then why make a video about a problem most people don't want to fix? Or just bulldoze the property all together.? However, in a country where there are profits too be made honestly, my idea ain't so outragious. Turn your frown upside down. 😃
In the late 1950’s I good friend of mine visited the island to acquire some civil was surplus sharps ammunition, he told me that the buildings were made of concrete that used cannon and rifle barrels as rebar,(the barrels were cheaper than rebar) out front he saw 2 hotchkiss mountain guns, one complete,and one with a damaged breech, both listed for 25 dollars, after getting inside he was amazed by the literal mountains of moldy leather civil war surplus ammo belts and cases, as well as piles of Spanish American war arms.
Most of the gun parts and accessories were sold to a man named Val Forgett , founder of the company Navy Arms , a business that still sells those parts from bannerman island.
Damn, that is so interesting, thanks for sharing that.
The things you learn in a RUclips comments section at 3am
@@christopherandersch1299 thank for that! Loved it!
@@djquinn11 the story goes even deeper if you check out Scott Wolter
I had the pleasure to meet Val Forgett, sometime around 1980 at his store in Ridgefield , NJ. A very interesting guy who sold some very interesting guns. It was my vague understanding that Val had bought Bannerman's Island at some point, but I have no details.
Taking a tour of this Island was at the top of my bucket list. Despite the limits on how close you are allowed to get to the main building, I really enjoyed the tour. There is a smaller building that I had no idea was on the island that cannot be seen from the water. It was used as a residence at some point, and people are allowed inside it.
Mystery Hunters 2002
It's a shame it isn't cared for and made into a money making tourist attraction. It has quite the history and the castle would be really cool of they had taken care of it
I found it to be overhyped; not worth going.
@@jomama5186 The Parks System is so low on funds. It used to be off limits so at least you can go out there now.
@@jomama5186 It is cared for. The remaining part of main warehouse building has been stabilized. There are paid tours, and plays and concerts held on the island. A non-profit was established some years ago to make this all happen.
Who reads the comments while listening
@@its_blacknblue I do. It’s called multitasking.
Depends on the content..... if it's something counterintuitive like math 😢
It depends, comment reading can go on during and after the listen. Unless you get an argument between a troll and some otherwise well meaning stupid human. That ruins the comments.
Who doesn't
Isn’t that why we have 2 eyes!
An excellent documentary...the Bannerman Castle on Pollepel Island should be preserved as a historical site.
@@paulforder591 actually should be given back to the natives.
Actually should be given back to the natives
@@iclite3656To do what?
@ITSHISTORY We visited Bannerman Castle last year in Sept. The tour was great and we arrived by boat with about 100 people. The tour guide mentioned that story about the boat accident. You are in the island for over an hour on a guided tour and then allowed to go around and photograph until the next pick-up boat arrives.
The heat of the sun is INTENSE, and you need to bring spray or lotion to protect the skin and wear a hat, any hat! People are not allowed to be near the castle for safety reasons but when we walked up the mountain to the old home you get great views. Fun fact, you can see bald eagles' nests on the trees by the river on the way to the island, and one bald eagle in particular is so used to the boat on the way back he perched on the front of the boat. The captain warned people not to be near it since it's a huge wild animal. He flew away when the boat got near the bay, like the eagle was the new boat guide.
Mother Nature and the ancestors always win in the end, plus jealousy and envy helps .
I've got a Bannerman catalog from around 1910, full of cool military relics & firearms. Fascinating history.
@@twoheart7813 As an antique gun buff, I immediately thought: "Wait, THE Francis Bannerman?"
Very well done! During my many train trips over the years from Albany to NYC, I always sit on the right side of the coach to observe the river and its many attractions. Bannnerman's Island and West Point being just two of them. It's one of the most beautiful train trips in the United States.
I ended up passing Bannerman's Island sort of unexpectedly around 15+ years ago. I was out there for a job, and I was driven by someone else without knowing or caring where it was. I was sort of frustrated when I looked out the window to see this pass me by. I had wanted to check this out but there wasn't any way I could.
Ya I love seeing on my trips from Albany to NYC it is a beautiful ride
❤❤❤This makes me so homesick!
Yes, same here. I have done so many train rides from Beacon to NYC and enjoyed seeing the castle and West Point, and the cliffs and monasteries up on the hills.
Very underrated!
Been on the island and kayaked around it a few weeks ago. Very cool
Is the water clean? Looks awful.
I heard that that's the only safe way to view the castle. But aren't there some debris from his boats(? I'm not sure what kind he used to ship products off the island ?
@@ksgraham3477 there have been efforts to clean the Hudson. The leader of the kayak trip said he swims in it but does not put his head under. I was out there for over two hours there was no smell. I did not get very wet either.
I used to have a Bannermans catalog when I was younger. Would pick out all sorts of different items wishing I could have.
The prices were amazing for items that today would go for thousands of dollars.
Still wish I had it today. Didn't know what I had back then.
Pollepel translates to ladle. So Pollepel Eiland in Dutch translates to Ladle Island. Funny to see our Dutch language and names in the United States and all across the globe :)
@@lillekenatnek195 om de geschiedenis van het nederlands in de verenigde staten te leren kennen moet je beslist ns " De Tawl" van Philip Dröge lezen.....ook nadat nieuw amsterdam New York werd bleef het nog in vele stadjes ten noorden van Manhattan de voertaal..ik klikte vooral op dit filmpje omdat ik wou weten hoe ze pollepel zouden uitspreken 😉🤭...
Actually it is a spoon, usually wooden, but also other materials are used like plastic and metal. It is used for stirring. In Belgian it is a ladle and more used for serving up soup and gravy. It is used in the same sense in the Netherlands, but not very often.
'Pol' means the rounding of a hand held as a cup, which has transferred to the utensil.
I don't know if you know this, but Pennsylvania has a HUGE Dutch population. We're called the "Pennsylvania Dutch"
@@johngavin2570 Those are actually Germans, not Dutch. I know it's confusing and there are a lot of 'ethnic' Dutch living there. But in this case the Dutch refers to Deutsch. Dutch was just more common in use, probably because New York used to be New Amsterdam originally. Everything sounding Germanic was called Dutch.
I actually made the same mistake as a kid in Australia, when I couldn't tell the difference between the two languages, even though I'm of Dutch decent and ended up living in the Netherlands.
Old New York was once Nieuw Amsterdam.
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way
Access is "Totally Forbidden" except various events and tours. Good presentation except for the lame click-bait title.
@neilmarsh1904 lol there's a sailboat chilling there in like the third photo:)
I’m local to this area and from what I understood this was more an army surplus thing and not a family of weapons dealers. The whole way the story has been spun is different than anything I’d read about it. I’ve had a hard time watching it
@@jrde50 yeah, the person collected surplus munitions. And some years later it caught fire. they contemplated stabilizing it for years but waited too long and half of it collapsed before they finally decided to do so. though most of my family moved to Florida in more recent decades, my family immigrated and lived in Newburgh from 1869 until around 1920.
😆 Yep, just go to the official website to book a tour. Prices from $45
So he was falsely accused of something which was then fueled by the media, creating mass public confusion, and they arrested those responsible for the errant waste of resources and money. If only those using that slimy playbook still faced consequences for their actions…
History repeats itself
@@nyki7fykxtjxyi sure seems to. Now if only the Justice Department would do the same.
@danieldmyers DOJ is part of the problem. Don't hold your breath waiting for them to hold themselves and their cohorts accountable for anything.
Agreed
@@danieldmyers sounds very familiar???🤔
I grew up nearby just East of Peekskill. Used to hike Breakneck Ridge and Stormking Mtn. Never knew about that Island's history until now. Fascinating!
Cool video! I’ve gone past Bannerman Castle so many times as a kid. We used to sail up and down the Hudson every summer. I always wondered about that castle but had forgotten about it for years.
Amazing how filthy that waterway is. I wonder who dares to swim in it.
I’ve never even heard of it !!
Thank you
Pollepel is a large wooded spoon used for cooking.
@@rogerk6180 yes! “Ladle”
Thanks 😊
The Dutch word "pollepel" is more specific than the English word "ladle". It refers specifically to the flat, wooden spoon used only for stirring the soup or sauce. So not the more generic assembly of various cooking spoons that "ladle" refers to, including also metal ones and the bowl shaped examples that can also be used to actually serve/scoop the soup/sauce. So even though "pollepel" formally translates to "ladle", their meanings are not fully interchangeable.
@@roelvdmarck Very interesting! Thank you for that!! Much appreciated!!
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fantastic video. As a history addict I was on the edge of my seat the whole time for this amazing bit of American history.
great video, the best translation from dutch for Pollepel is Soup serving spoon. the word Pollepel means Soup serving spoon in dutch.
That's only correct for Belgian Dutch. In the Netherlands a pollepel usually refers to a flat wooden spoon to stir food while cooking. It would be quite tedious to serve soup with that.
Hi, I'm Dutch and a "pollepel" is a spoon. A big spoon that is either wooden to stir or a deep spoon to scoop the soup into a bowl or dish.
I think people use the term for multiple spoon types.
It's a funny name for an island. I think that they named it like that because it looks like an upside down deep spoon, a "pollepel".
It's unbelievable but there is a fancy dance in Holland called the "Stuyvesant Ball" named after Peter Stuyvesant who sold New Amsterdam, now called 'New York' (You might have heard of it...) for the amazing price of 1 Dutch gildern.
Why they celebrate it is beyond me, imagine if the Dutch had a bigger stake in the USA. Maybe we Dutch people could have immigrated or work easier in the US like we could in the colonies.
I would have loved to go to the States and work there.
Not that it's impossible now but it is not easy either.
Anyway, (wooden) spoon island. I'd love to visit it, these kind of places are awesome. Nice video and great history lessons...
How do you say "Coveted" or "Stolen" in Dutch since that is what Europeans did to the Earth, Animal kingdom, AND Native Americans🙄. Happy New Year😊
@iclite3656 wow best wishes but just between us: you are ruining the mood a little bit...
Maybe the past is something that nobody can change and it's likely that nobody in your direct environment has or had any significant influence on the past either...
So Maybe have a merry Christmas and a happy New year with you family and friends and be really happy that you are safe and healthy unlike a lot of people today...
And if you still have all kind of political issues take it up with the politicians, they are doing all the stuff your so upset about!
Another fine professional presentation Mr Socash. Thank You
I visited Pollepel Island and saw Bannerman castle pre-collapse back in about 2008, you could take a boat tour from Beacon to the island as a walking/ guided tour. It was quite an amazing place. I wish i could have seen it before the fire, but at least i saw it before so many of the walls collapsed !
Took a rowboat, rowed out there in 1989. Gave myself a tour.
That is so cool.
The closest I could get was taking pictures from the Breakneck Ridge train station.
@@l.jagilamplighterwright9211that “station” is hilarious. We stood there one day to see if the train would stop😂
@@l.jagilamplighterwright9211 You book a tour online and tour the island at the official website . Prices starting at $45
I have several original Bannerman sales catalogs along with a rope tension drum I purchased several years ago. The drum was one that was used in the original Red Badge Of Courage”movie. The seller had purchased several semi trailers full of firearms, swords, drums, and a myriad of other military items that the prop company had originally purchased from Bannerman’s and sold it all on ebay.
The boat that takes you to and from Bannerman's is the same one my class at Dutchess County BOCES (DAES- Dutchess Academy of Environmental Science) used to study the Hudson in the early 2000s. Very fond memories. Also highly recommend the tour at this place !
I have a repro Bannerman catalog. Being a sword collector, my mouth waters looking at what you could buy from him!
The Indian's referred to the island as Menahtis, meaning small island. In 1965 the Bannerman family donated the Capsan from the Battleship Kentucky to the Smithsonian. A neighbor's uncle was part of the crew who helped recover it from the island.
Leave off using apostrophe for plurals. Also spell 'capstan' correctly. Proper English is worth it.
@@robertmatch6550 calm down, we’re on RUclips not writing a dissertation. 🙃
I always thought it was capstan
@@jamiel5210 education and intellect don't check out because you're on YT. You either have them, or you don't.
The Indians didn't call it anything. India is on the other side of the globe. My ancestors didn't come from India, they came from the Americas. We are Native Americans or First Nations peoples, not Indians.
"I'll build an arsenal on an island, far from any fire services, and then I'll go live next to all the gunpowder stored there." "Great idea! Just be sure you don't consult any engineers or architects and you have the whole thing constructed by amateurs."
I wonder if that explosion was really an accident.
Doubtful was an accident
@@Nylon_riot Yup you know it wasn't
Rockefeller lol typical insurance fraud
Pollepel in dutch is the wooden spoon you use to stir in the pot. Pol means hollow not pot. Pot means pot in dutch same as english as is pan as well. Lepel means spoon.
I have had the privilege to visit Pollepel Island on several occasions as well as work on the island. It is a fascinating place to visit.
Thank you Ryan for this post. Once again you are on point.
It was a great history lesson. Hope you got better quickly!
bravo! Something I never knew I needed to know 👏👏👏
Tis’ folly indeed when what was once another’s dream goes against neglectful family, vandals, subsequent owners, tragic events of their own making, weather and the passing time in nature which forever steals a place back to itself. I have seen more of this than I like to admit. Fine job with this video Mr. Socash. Have you considered one on Gilletes Castle?
You always do a great job at these videos
Except for all the inaccuracies.
@ 😂😂😂 I know right.
Great job on the video. I actually live about 30 minutes from what we all called the castle. I remember back in the late 80’s and 90 riding by it on the train on the way to Grand Central Station, making sure never missed my quick view. In the early 2000’s I owned a jet ski docked never the island and was able to explore it. There was much to see but it was still a cool experience to have.
This channel is very well produced
I kayaked around this island twice! It's so cool to see up close! Didn't dare step foot there. I look forward to the video!
I'm local to this area, I spend lots of time on the river. It was about a year ago I finally booked a tour. It was a great experience. If you are touring the Hudson Valley, it's a wonderful destination. Throughout the island, the trail is loaded with beautiful gardens. It's under video surveillance so don't think about trespassing.
Wish you did not just use kilometers when stating the size of the island. We do not use that measurement for land here in the US. I had to look it up! It is approx 1,606 sq acres, or approx 2.5 sq miles. Tiny!!
Whenever I went from Albany to NYC by train I always looked forward to seeing the castle along the way. But never knew the story!
Well done mate, you held it together well ! Rest up
I ❤ this channel!! I love the history about these interesting places, I have learned so much since I started watching, thank you for this! 🙏🏽
Ooh I went on a kayaking trip out to this island and we had a tour. A lot less was collapsed then. Rly glad I was able to make it out there.
Been there! A year ago and It was an experience 😮 much decayed but tour was informative … there’s also a small museum there as well in what used to be the summer residence I think
Still haven't been able to find the island I once saw talked about in passing on TV many years ago.
Some island in the middle of a raging and dangerous river, with an abandoned hospital on it with the equipment still in there, but it's illegal to go to the island because of the dangerous waters around it.
I think you might be referring to North Brother Island on the East River.
Google maps views shows LOTS of abandoned infrastructure on and around the island.
It is located right next to the infamous "Rikers Island Prison".
@cwitt483 I keep thinking that too over the years, but I don't think I'll ever know for sure
3:50 story is okay, but you weren't very careful on the pictures/image. You post an image of Brooklyn Bridge about 40years premature of its existence as the drafts for foundations were sketched in 1867 and bridge began construction in 1870 and completed in 1883-- so your timing is really way off. The "castle" was built in 1901 which is about 20 years before Prohibition which was 1920-1922. You just mish everything together without much careful accuracy. Maybe the agreement was to keep island alcohol free, but has almost nothing to do with Prohibition. Canadian Prohibition 1918=1920. So not exactly accurate.
You know, political movements are like waves. They start off way in the distance before they come to shore.
Like prohibition.
The move started after the civil war and came to a head in the 1920s.
Don’t you have something better to do besides be a rotten tomatos RUclips commenter
@@mikeyd-yl3vv he's just being accurate, sweetie. Calm down 😘
@mikeyd-yl3vv Are you not interested in *accuracy* ??? How is correcting misiformation "rotten tomatoes"??? How old are you?
@@mikeyd-yl3vv serious question, are you an American citizen who votes? And by chance are you a democrat voter?
Definitely need a playlist for all these island videos
I hope you are feeling better… now that is dedication!
I thoroughly enjoyed your documentary!
Thanks for the cool story of this place. Excellent job 👍
Its Totally not forbidden. That was a clickbait title. I kayaked there no problem as do hundreds of other people each year.,
Ryan, get well soon. Congrats on another great video.
I wish you spent more time on Thom Johnson, he is the expert on the Island. I lived next to him in Peekskill when he was writing his book on the ruins.
Proving the fact that no-one cares as much as the originator. Children are an especially cruel interpretation of even those supposedly closest to you, they could not care less. Tragic.
Unless the OG builder (of whatever) takes the time and effort to build a connection with their kids. Specially teaching them about why one does or builds what they build.
Then the children are vested in the project.
And no, just telling them one time does not count. It’s a constant teaching them about you.
Most parent today fail to do that because
1. They assume schools will teach them
2. They are too busy in their personal lives (that one is big because the children will specially hate the project that stole their father)
3. Parents are stuck with their heads in the sand expecting this level of respect from their children and complete obedience without a relationship based on caring for each other.
4. Parents over protect their children and raise wussies
5. The devil.
Hope you're feeling better soon!
A Pollepel is a spoon with a long handel used by chefs to stir/taste things like soup or sauces. It can be a wooden spoon but a metal soup ledel is also called a pollepel.
"Pollepel" (a compound word consisting of pol + lepel) is the Dutch word for a simple wooden spoon as used to stir soup, sauce or gravy.
However, the name pollepel does not refer to the pan itself.
@@remc0s Rockefeller, of course 🔥
I remember it well not far from my home town beacon loved seeing it never got to go there its wonderful to see it ❤❤❤miss it
Great information! Feel better soon 🙂
Wow this was such an interesting video. Ty!
Great job! No, I had no idea you were ill as you presented. Get well quick. Subscribed. Keep creating excellent content!
Governments are terrible trustees of historical sites and buildings. This fact bodes ill for Bannerman Castle.
@@DeanStephen that's what the nazis said/say.
@ And there is the rub: “with what funds they have.”
that first "Store" pic was the Browning family gun business in Ogden Utah
Back in high school, around ‘98 or 99, My 3 friends and I sailed up and anchored off the island, used a small inflatable to get ashore and explored the whole place- it was in rough shape then as well -totally collapsed, we spent half a day crawling around the ruins-never saw any of the wild dogs a sign warned us about thankfully!
I HAVE VERY OCCASIONALLY RODE AMTRAK BETWEEN NYC AND ALBANY NY.
I NOTICED THE BANNERMAN CASTLE AND WONDERED WHY SOMEONE WOULD BUILD AND THEN NEGLECT THE PLACE!
TODAY WITH THIS POST , IT IS MYSTERY SOLVED!!😊😊
What a terrible shame! How awful, that Mr. Bannerman put such effort into it and created such lovely castes on it, only to have it go to ruin. I would love to be the one able to restore it to its former glory, and more!
😮. Why? It was stolen away from native Americans...the island that is. "Guns and Roses" "Live and let die". Also a Bond movie😂
Pollepel is a Dutch name / word for a wooden spoon used as a cooking stirring spoon
Nice job filming this & while sick.
I grew up near this island, I kayak around it every year. I'm curious to where you got your info from?
Way to go Ryan, no sniffles detected!
😃
Interesting video - good job :)
I grew up in Fishkill New York the area where Bannerman's Castle is located never knew what the proper name of the island was we always called it Bannerman's Island
Yeah same. Everyone around the area calls it Bannerman's or Bannerman's Island
I’ve had this as my computer background for a while now haha
7:02 Bruuuh “Europeans settlers didn’t trust Native Americans..” 🥴💀 I-
Very interesting! One correction: There's no monolith there as none of it it made from one big rock. A good example of a monolith is the Kailasa Temple in India.
Well done! And no, I didn’t realize you were running a fever and had the ‘flu! The Mom in me is hoping that you grabbed your water bottle and went back to bed after you recorded this. LOL
I have never even heard of this island, so this was a fascinating tour for me - thank you!
Am I the only one who feels like big chunks of this video we're written by AI?
Nope you’re not the only one don’t worry cause it’s jumped to place to place
so a pol lepel is a thing in dutch the word translates to ladel in english, the island was probaply named after a ladel as it might resemble the shape in one way or another.
0:25 that ain't the Mary Jane herb growing in the picture😭😂
Grow up
Probably it's legal so a few illegal grows weren't worth harvest that you need a liscense.
Grow down @@Brap-pl2me
@@Brap-pl2me"grow up" - 🤓
One track mind ... I see it everywhere
I actually live in Hudson Valley and have been to many times. Its amazing.
Respectfully, a correction is recommended. The Spanish-American War [5:21] did not start in 1892. Hostilities were from April 21st to December 10th, 1898).
I remember as a kid taking the train from Philly to nyc and then to Albany to visit my dad and seeing this on my way there was always so damn cool and i always wondered who built it
Great vid. As for the name Pollepel, a pollepel is a big spoon, like the one used for serving soup. It is a Dutch word.🙂
Nice to know: Pollepel is Dutch for ladle.
A pollepel is NOT a cooking pot.
Its a ladle, a typical spoon to serve soup with.
Pollepel translates in english too ladle, it is a stirring tool
Wait, who doesn’t know what the ladle is? I get it you have to clarify the stirring tool because most people nowadays are TikTarded!
@@Dr_Larken maybe i should clearify a bit, Pollepel is Dutch for ladle, and has nothing to do with "tiktardedness"
Was this place featured in some scenes from Fear No Evil, an 80s horror movie?
I actually lived right near this castle and I saw it all the time when I was driving to work or kayaking on the river
"Pollepel" is just Dutch word for a wooden spoon kitchen utensil type thing, a ladle
I remember flying over the Hudson low enough to see this location 40 + years ago and wondering what it was
Its not 6,5km² its only 0,026km² You would need to place 250 islands of this size next to each other to have a mass of 6,5km²
'Pollepel' is indeed a Dutch word and means ladle or serving spoon. Litterally it is a contraction of the words pot (pot) and lepel (spoon), so a large spoon to stir or serve from a pot for boiling food. When said together these words transformed into the word 'pollepel' which is still in use in Dutch today. A very unique name for an island indeed.
Depicting the native people who were for some reason not wild about having their home stolen as hostile and superstitious is certainly a choice.
We need more Castles in the U.S.! Preserve it..
Thank you.
It's ok to be busy when ill, but do remember you are ill. For a flu, fluids, and try to rest and not exert yourself. Remember, you heal better when you feel better. Take care, get well, and I'll be looking for more content.
I could swear he did a video on Bannerman Castle before
Pollepel translates to "spoon for pot" (the big ones as shown in the video)
Today it means a long stem spoon either made of wood or metal for stirring or for serving from a pot.
Pol=pot , lepel=spoon
So interesting. Get well soon.
Suggestion; build a grand Four Lane Bridge linking the island to the mainland.
A Pedestrian bridge along one side.
A bicycling bridge along the other side.
Close bridge off three times each year for drag-racing.
Errect appartments along the bridge's upper sides, like England once did during the 1300s.
Rich spectators can rent various apartments as spectators. Workers on the island may buy or lease one of these apartments affordably as a discount for their continued zeal in doing a job well doe and loyalty to the island's upkeep.
" Teamwork makes the Dream work. "
@@gonsolop2429 how about just leave it alone?
@@mamazannie6060 Then why make a video about a problem most people don't want to fix?
Or just bulldoze the property all together.?
However, in a country where there are profits too be made honestly, my idea ain't so outragious.
Turn your frown upside down. 😃