Editing Error - I managed to edit out the fact that I pumped up my gravel tire (700x38) and then pumped up my MTB tire twice (29x2.4). The second inflation of my MTB tire was cut out of the video accidentally. But good to know that it can pump up three tires on one charge at realistic tire volumes and pressures.
Hi Troy thanks for posting this video. I am curious if you recently got the Panaracer Aliso tire or had it from some time ago. I design for Panaracer (Aliso is one of my designs) and so I was stoked to see it. We had some production issues during COVID and the tires were not available for some time. Keep up the good work.
It's good to see this thing can do a couple of 2.4 MTB tires, but I don't think I'd bother taking it on a bikepacking trip. I'd be afraid to not take a manual pump so then the Flextail is just extra weight.
A few weeks ago I picked up a EausAir Mini Pump (on Kickstarter) for a similar price. I think it was $80. It does have a display and target pressure, after which it shuts off - much preferable to the Flextail. It is a bit bigger/heavier, but still fits in my seatbag. I've only topped tires off a couple of times, not pumped up from scratch. I am taking it on a 1300 mile tour in June/July so I'll report back if it meets expectations. I am still bringing a mini-pump and some Co2 because technology has let me down before, and the middle of nowhere is a lousy place to get let down.
30 years from now I’ll be dead but my Silca pump will still be going strong. The electric pump will be in a landfill within a few years. Thanks for a good review though.
@@john-r-edge A hand pump also can get you homewhen you're 100km out, have had two flats and a slow leak you have to pump up 8 times to get home ;-) Also another thing to charge. Also doesn't fit well on the bike frame. Im sure it has it's benefits. Right tool for the right person and situation. The fact it has no gauge is mind boggling and a complete fail.
I've been using a Flextail pump for sleeping pads on backpacks and they're AMAZING. I'm excited to see them making a bike pump, they know how to make small battery operated pumps.
Agreed. I've been using their mini pump for my sleeping pad and recently upgraded to the Zero pump. I have a video on that too. ruclips.net/video/b2G6fZ1AebQ/видео.htmlsi=EDPMUDfppqAwOxLf
I've switched to a rechargeable pump (I have the Rockbros version, which looks identical) and will never go back to the old way (a pocket pump or C02 cartridges). One of the big advantages is you can partially inflate the tube to give it shape before the install. You can't do this with a C02 cartridge, with the risk the tube won't be positioned correctly before the surge of air. I also like having the ability to inflate multiple tires, given the risk of a second flat during a long ride. Lastly, speed is a big advantage over a traditional pocket pump. It takes one or two minutes to inflate, which is much appreciate when it's cold and you want a short stop. I paid $60 for mine and after two on-the-road flats can attest to it being worth every penny.
@@Llanchlo Exactly. Practice - you will feel more confident with the CO2. Its just a matter of how much weight you want to carry. This mini-inflator has a limitation people dont consider, battery life. Lithium is better, but the number of recharges are finite. And you dont know how much charge you have in it if you havent used it in a year or so. Right? so do you recharge before a ride? how often. Also, what if you have tubless tires and you need to inflate to reseat the tire to the wheel. you are out of luck. you need super high pressure, which you get with a CO2.
@ds94703 Some good points. In my experience, Lithium batteries hold their charge so well that it would still manage an inflation after a year. Anyone who can't remember to charge it once a season will have multiple maintenance neglect issues.
Thanks for the info. How long does it hold its charge? Is it worth recharging/topping up for every outing? I would appreciate it if you can offer some advice. Regards.
I use Fumpa, excellent pump, been using it for years. They have four different models now, two have psi display but are larger units. Also if you have a TPU tube, you buy an elbow nozzle attachment to ensure heat is not transferred to the plastic valve step I have the mini fumpa and put it in my saddle bag. Their web site claims 0 to 100 psi in 50 seconds on a 700 by 25mm tyre. If I have a flat, after new inner tube fitted, pump the tyre up to it is pretty hard and ride on. If you have hookless tyres, you need a pressure gauge absolutely. For mountain biking, I just take my normal pump, I can get into isolated areas and can use the pump indefinitely.
I only found heat to be an issue when going to high pressures. My normal gravel and MTB pressures didn't generate enough heat to be an issue for TPU tubes.
I also have a Fumpa. They make a larger version that has a gauge. I find myself using the larger one at the garage for all the family bikes. And comes with us for family trips. Great addition for sure. I have been carrying the smaller one on all my rides and I agree, a pressure gauge would be nice, but would add weight and size most likely.
I'm a pump and spare tube man,. In my younger days I had a stint enjoying N2O recreationally from coffeee crema dispensesr (into a balloon). They use the same Cartrdges CO2 users use on bike. Seeing those N2O empties build up weighed heavy on me, so when CO2 became common on bike I haven't been tempted. Riding my bike in nature should be avoiding needless waste. And I see them as needless as I don't compete and pump works. Seeing these electronic pumps get this small is something I could swing to, especially as you say they add a gauge. Still will carry my pump and spare tube though. I've seated my 2.4 tyres and a difficult rim with just a handpump and cargo strap, so their always a way with out fast pressure.
A pump and tube are definite necessities. I bring the electric mini pump in addition. But it is what I reach for first every time. The hand pump is just in case.
@@TroyOnTrails I saw a battery pump a while back with a gauge and was tempted, but now they have become even smaller, I''m glad I waited as I wouldn't have put the other in my ride bag. I see rockbros have a few iterations of this mini format, one has a gauge too.
@@lesterfalcon1350 check my follow up video where I review all the top contenders. The Cycplus As2 Pro is now my go-to. The Best Mini Electric Bike Pumps (and Why You Need One) ruclips.net/video/61XAHpft9as/видео.html
I haven't used a C02 cartridge for pumping a tire in twenty years. Back when I lived in Denver we had goat head thorns and it seemed like I had to use about two of them Everytime I went for a ride. I moved back to Wisconsin and have had like two flat tires in twenty years. I just went back to using a pump.
I hear you. I lived most of my life in the midwest and I never had a flat due to a thorn. Usually just some random nail or piece of metal in the road (or when I mis-adjusted my brake pad and wore a gash in the sidewall of my GP4000 - ouch!)
I always carry a mini pump as a backup and as a last resort. They kind of stink but walking 15-20 miles stinks even more. If going out into the middle of nowhere where there is a real possibility of multiple flats. A reliable frame pump is essential and worth the weight. I also carry a presta to shrader adapter for topping off with gas station inflators.
I carry an adapter too. I also carry a mini hand pump just in case. But I carry and use the electric pump 100% of the time. I haven't needed my hand pump, but I like redundancy since I ride in the middle of nowhere often. But I LOVE the ease and speed of the electric pump.
LOL years ago when I was all-in these tech gadgets I tried a few... and returned them all. Problem was 1. It's very very slow, 2. It can't pump up road tyres to high pressure. However it seems the later problem has been resolved, which was the dealbreaker for me back then. Interesting product, glad to finally see some "tech" that has a real-world usage.
I'm all in on tubeless and larger volume tires so high pressure isn't something I need anymore. It definitely does better with lower pressures but still gets the job done at higher pressures.
This is good to know, as this gadget is promising. It's still too expensive for me to consider, but it's not crazy for some people. One downside is that it needs charging, and remembering to keep it charged is at least as hard as remembering to keep your tires pumped. My mini pump is annoying to use, and I'm thinking of getting a 1970s style frame pump like the Zefal HPX I had years ago. Mini pumps and frame pumps are always ready if annoying to use.
This. I now have to make sure my HR monitor, power meter, shifters, Garmin computer and rear radar all have battery power. So not exactly excited about adding one more thing to the list.
Set and forget!! I've got a hand pump that stays mounted on my bike along with a puncture kit. It's not the smallest, but it gets me rolling again without ever needing to thnk twice about it and I've had it for 12 years, saving me on a few trips where I've had a slow leak and out of tubes/patches and pumpd it 6-8 times on the way back home. Waterproof too. Only thing I've never understood is why people carry little hand pumps in their jersey pocket than mounting to the bike...vanity!
I was in NZ touring a long grade kept seeing deplete co2 cans left on the road then at the tops in a turn out, about 50 of them just dumped there. I used a good pump i always get home leave nothing behind.
Great video. I got the Cycplus tiny bike pump and what I like about it is it does have the gauge on it but instead of using it to measure you set what the pressure you want to be and it just automatically stops when it hits that pressure and I've tested it with my good bike pump and it's pretty close in its accuracy
@TroyOnTrails it does get very hot and recommends using the included small attachment to prevent overheating the value stem. Also, i remembered another advantage of these mini pumps over CO2. CO2 leaks faster after using it. I was told smaller molecules is why.
Very nice video, appreciate your time and effort. As far as the pump is concerned, I wish you could read the tire pressure directly on it while pumping so you know when to stop. Having to carry around another device to read the pressure seems less than ideal.
Agreed. But to be fair, in the field I worry less about accurate ture pressures. It's more about getting rolling again. I hope the next version has a pressure gauge.
Most of my local lumpy gravel rides are mixed surface. I got one of these to top-up whenever I was going to switch to a long stretch of smooth pavement, mid-ride. It's just a quicker way to keep things moving than pumping, and less waste ($$$) than CO2 cartridges - - at least for this use case. I still ride with CO2 and a pump for road rides.
I couldn't agree more. It really needs a gauge with plenty of other products out there that do offer it. Even if the gauges aren't perfectly accurate, it would be nice to have some kind of estimate.
Really cool. Thankfully, I hardly ever flat on my road bike. When i do, I use a #16 co2. I know when the cannister is empty, my tire is full. I dont have to keep stopping, and checking the psi with a gauge.
You need the Co2 fast pressure boost if you have a tubeless tire that deflated..in order to pressurize in again and trap the air after plugging a puncture.. faster than converting it to innertube as last resort
Presumably you mean if the tyre has come off the bead? I've plugged punctures in my tubeless tyres and pumped them up with a mini hand pump, which is not exactly fast.
if you are racing or weather is miserable i get the CO2 cartridge (I am an average rider and I carry one as i am just to lazy to use a hand pump). But for the average rider I can see this as a much better option. just make sure is charged before each ride. Will have a look to pick one up i think.
Check out this video where I review a few of these pumps. The Cycplus with gauge is pretty awesome. ruclips.net/video/61XAHpft9as/видео.htmlsi=NOfmQ42W4PGpRtFe
You can charge these kind of gadgets with USB-C out by having some kind of converter / adapter in-between. I have a tiny USB-C male to USB-A female adapter. Use this and the cable you get with the pump and you are good to go. I have quite a few Chinese things with a USB-C charging socket, but they are all really ordinary USB with a USB-C socket 😬.
i really like this idea , this nifty lil gadget ....but ive got a nice track pump already, and i heard these electric pumps with inbuilt gauges don't play nice with tubless tires
They work great with my tubeless tires. Some don't work well with TPU tubes though as they get too hot. But those with hoses solve the problem. I did a follow up shootout video reviewing several of these. ruclips.net/video/61XAHpft9as/видео.htmlsi=mPstjx2XzeGTNIt5
How long does the battery remain charged if the pump is unused? Can I charge it, drop it in my toolbag and expect it to work the next time I need it, even if that is a couple of months after I charged it, or does the charge leak away over time?
It's hard to say. I've used it a month later without issue. But they're is no battery indicator. I'm testing some alternatives now that claim to solve this and a few of my other wants. Stay tuned.
Thank you for showing this powerful little buddy! May be worth a consideration for weight weenies 😊 Personally I would not rely on it for two reasons: (1) battery operated requires frequent recharging even without using it, plus the battery has a limited lifetime and cannot be exchanged by the user, and (2) all these things are made in China 🇨🇳 and will probably not last very long. Taking all this into account, these do look way too expensive and not very sustainable to me. I keep my hand pump😊 which is probably also made in China 😅 but at least doesn‘t cost as much and has less environmental impact upon purchase and replacement
"the battery has a limited lifetime and cannot be exchanged by the user". The first is true, but it probably has a longer life than most people's drivetrains. The second may be true, or may not be; often manufacturers use off-the-shelf battery packs. Someone will need to open one of these up to check. But FWIW my "non-replaceable" battery in my Garmin satnav took less than two minutes to replace, with a suitable off-the-shelf replacement.
Yes. I think Co2 still has a place in mountain bike races and gravel races where time is a critical factor. When I have flatted in a mountain bike race, I've just used Co2 to see if the tire will seal and hold enough air to get me to the finish.
I'd be curious to know how long the battery stays charged. I get a flat about once a year, so if I charge it in April, and get a flat in August...is it still going to have enough battery to pump up my tire??
Cool! So now, before going for a ride, I charge my Garmin, my DI2, my smart helmet, my phone, my watch, my pedals, my Varia radar, my front light, my back light …. and my pump.
Hmmm interesting, but no gauge is a no go for me. Anyone knows if a pump like this exists with a pressure gauge and also which can fill a flat 2,5x29 mtb tire ? 😁
Just picked up the CYCPLUS digital one (which has the digital readout/limiter). One side effect just discovered...it puts out heat. So if the valve stem is plastic, it will melt it (think tubolito) and cause a major issue out in the wild. Basically ruined another person's ride :-(
I've heard of that with TPU tubes, but other than the tire I pumped up to 100 PSI, the valve never got hot enough to cause damage. I pumped up three tires and didn't even realize it but I was touching the valve when I was done.
Will stick to cartridges and manual pumps. never have to worry about charging yet another device or carrying more weight. The older ways last longer just like anything else
I've used it exclusively on tubeless tires (except the 100PSI test in the video). No issues so far. Because the pump should be running before you put it on the valve, I don't think it is possible for sealant to gum it up.
The concept of a small battery powered pump is great, but current tech requiring the use of a USB-A charger and not having a PSI readout is ridiculous. I’ll use a hand pump until that is standard.
@@TroyOnTrails I do too, at the moment, but most devices I have now are usb-c (as is even the pump 😂) so holding on to them is becoming less necessary and hopefully I would have a pump for a while. They should fix that 😉.
Agreed. Only real cyclests use hand pumps. All this tech crap. Why check your pressure with a guage? That's totally f#*cked up. Who cares if it is exactly a specific pressure. Just use your thumb. Irritates me actually.
There is a much better version on Amazon that's half the price and comes with a digital display. You set the pressure then let it go. I've been using it for my fat bike. It's a game changer.
I really want to ditch my CO2, but could this pump survive a cross-country tour? (I have small solar panels to charge things.) I will always carry my hand pump and use it for flats until the pumping gets hard, then top off with something like this. If it fails, no biggie ... just sore arms :) Thanks for the review!
My next big tour isn't until July but yeah. I think this will be my primary pump. I'll have a mini hand pump just in case but I think I'll leave the Co2 at home.
I tour, have cameras to charge up, its a real pain finding a place to charge your devices. When touring, I would never leave home without a spare tire and tube, patch kit and most of all my 120 psi pump.
This is certainly a possibility. I'm not the best at keeping track of this stuff yet I haven't had a problem yet. The only time I had an issue is right after shooting this video. I virtuous to charge them so all my pumps were dead. But I discovered this while home and wasn't caught out.
Manual pump: Pro: Unlimited inflations Cons: Slow and high effort CO2: Pros: Low effort, fast Cons: Single use per cartridge, CO2 should be released and replaced with air when you get home Electric: Pro: Low effort Cons: Slow, 2-3 inflations per charge I'm lucky in that I only average about 1 flat per year, so I just carry a couple of tubes, a small mini-pump and a CO2 pump. Usually the CO2 is all I need, but if I mess up or get another flat, I have the manual pump as backup. Overkill, probably. Carryover from my single days - now if I get a flat I usually just call my wife and ask her to come get me! I suppose that if I could remember to keep the electric pump charged, it would be more than sufficient for me. Disadvantage of CO2 as mentioned above is that you really shouldn't leave it in your tires. The CO2 molecules are smaller than N2 and so the tire tends to lose the CO2 pretty quickly. Also, some have said that tire sealant doesn't play well with CO2, so if you are running tubeless, you probably should also deflate and reinflate with air once you get home. I think this rechargeable electric pump is an excellent replacement for CO2! But I'd still pack a mini-pump.
I used to pack a mini pump and Co2. Now I pack a mini pump and the Flextail pump. The big difference is I reach for the electric pump first and the hand pump is my emergency backup.
Got a OneUp EDC pump on my gravel bike. Light (160g), has a hollow CNC body. It can be used as a normal pump, has a really good air volume (I'd say medium effort for 30-35 psi), but the body itself has a storage, which can store 2 co2 cartridges OR one cartridge and a multi-tool, and the head can be removed to use as a co2 inflator. These electric pumps take the same space as a co2 head + 2 16g cartridge (or more if they are bigger), its loud AF, need to recharge, and its expensive. 100 USD vs. 10-15 for a head and 3-5 / cartridge. The EDC pump goes around 70-75 USD. So this electric horn is a huge no for me. :D
Definitely not. The air intake is the USB port which means water can get to the electronics. I'd have no problem using it in the rain but it should be kept dry when carrying it.
Glad you comment on the three tires pumped up. But seems to me that most of us ride on high pressure tires, your 40 miles out, it rains a bit, you get a flat, then with the roads still wet, 2nt flat no where to charge the pump. Tire needs 100 psi you walk. Nice video but that thing won't work for me. Not on my touring bikes, road, gravel, not even my Quatrevelo 20" inch 60 psi tires. So if i understood that you pumped up three tires each at 50 psi = 150 psi for three tires. Or 1 tire up to 100 psi 2nt tire up to 50 psi. Basically your saying if your riding a 105 psi tire you ready have one pump up, two flats you walk. Thank you you save some money.
I still Cary a pump. This just replaces Co2 and becomes my first choice when I need air. All my bikes are tubeless with 38MM being my smallest tire. Thus the lower pressures.
Yes. But it depends on the tire. It won't replace the sudden burst of air you can get from an air compressor but any tire you can seat with a floor pump should work.
I like my CO2 pump. I rarely have to use it. When I have, it always worked. In 20k miles on my bike, I've used it about seven times. I'm careful with bike maintenance and have liners in all of my tires both road and mountain bike. I don't want anything more to have to charge.
This. I just used my mtb co2 after it sat in my tool pouch for years. All good. If this had been in my pouch for years it would be flat. Yes, I could pull it out and charge it now and then but I don’t see the point.
The main reason to use CO2 is ability to set up tubeless tire, if it completely off the rim. I'm not sure that this pump able to do that. In all other cases you just use simple hand pump. It's light, It's cheap, it never need to recharge
For me being able to top up a tire quickly and effortlessly mid ride us priceless. A mini pump is just enough work that I'd rather ride my tire to flat before stopping. And if my tire comes off the bead then something went pretty wrong and I'll throw in a tube at that point as most likely they're is no longer any sealant left.
@@TroyOnTrails first had model without pressure screen and after they add it pump became perfect. It stopes when reach pressure you want. And very small!
There were squirrels running around making lots of noise behind me. I wish I could include a video clip with a comment because I had to stop for a bit. They were driving me nuts.
3 minutes to do what I can do with my hand pump in the same time? All that heat and battery to end up in the landfill? That's not progress. It's a new toy that will be forgotten about not long after the battery dies.
@@TroyOnTrails fair enough For me I'm a glider pilot and perhaps I focus a little too much on weight but all these batteries we carry add up. Not to mention unnecessary fire hazards. I think the hand pumps are all the more impressive when all things are taken into consideration. Thank you for the review.
Yup. As you saw in the video, I routinely thought the tire was at the right pressure only to realize I was well short. A gauge would be amazingly helpful.
Ah… so it pumps … great. What it won’t do is seat a tuneless tyre which a gas cylinder often will. That’s the difference. Also the gas takes a few seconds
Editing Error - I managed to edit out the fact that I pumped up my gravel tire (700x38) and then pumped up my MTB tire twice (29x2.4). The second inflation of my MTB tire was cut out of the video accidentally. But good to know that it can pump up three tires on one charge at realistic tire volumes and pressures.
Hi Troy thanks for posting this video. I am curious if you recently got the Panaracer Aliso tire or had it from some time ago. I design for Panaracer (Aliso is one of my designs) and so I was stoked to see it. We had some production issues during COVID and the tires were not available for some time. Keep up the good work.
@@donscrilla1 Awesome. I love that tire. Well done. I've been running them for a little over a year. They're great for the Pacific Northwest.
It's good to see this thing can do a couple of 2.4 MTB tires, but I don't think I'd bother taking it on a bikepacking trip. I'd be afraid to not take a manual pump so then the Flextail is just extra weight.
Both of these wheels are 622 ETRTO I believe
@@cebruthius Yes they are. 40-622 and 62-622
Pretty cool that it plays music while it pumps up your tire.
LOL. That would be awesome!
Elevator music.
A few weeks ago I picked up a EausAir Mini Pump (on Kickstarter) for a similar price. I think it was $80. It does have a display and target pressure, after which it shuts off - much preferable to the Flextail. It is a bit bigger/heavier, but still fits in my seatbag. I've only topped tires off a couple of times, not pumped up from scratch. I am taking it on a 1300 mile tour in June/July so I'll report back if it meets expectations. I am still bringing a mini-pump and some Co2 because technology has let me down before, and the middle of nowhere is a lousy place to get let down.
Nice. I'd skip the co2 but definitely bring the hand pump.
30 years from now I’ll be dead but my Silca pump will still be going strong. The electric pump will be in a landfill within a few years. Thanks for a good review though.
Fun, if morbid, analogy. Silca pumps are pretty solid so I hear.
Could well be! My Silca pump still in use after about 33 years. I did have to replace the internal washer once.
@@john-r-edge A hand pump also can get you homewhen you're 100km out, have had two flats and a slow leak you have to pump up 8 times to get home ;-) Also another thing to charge. Also doesn't fit well on the bike frame.
Im sure it has it's benefits. Right tool for the right person and situation.
The fact it has no gauge is mind boggling and a complete fail.
I've been using a Flextail pump for sleeping pads on backpacks and they're AMAZING. I'm excited to see them making a bike pump, they know how to make small battery operated pumps.
Agreed. I've been using their mini pump for my sleeping pad and recently upgraded to the Zero pump. I have a video on that too. ruclips.net/video/b2G6fZ1AebQ/видео.htmlsi=EDPMUDfppqAwOxLf
I've switched to a rechargeable pump (I have the Rockbros version, which looks identical) and will never go back to the old way (a pocket pump or C02 cartridges). One of the big advantages is you can partially inflate the tube to give it shape before the install. You can't do this with a C02 cartridge, with the risk the tube won't be positioned correctly before the surge of air. I also like having the ability to inflate multiple tires, given the risk of a second flat during a long ride. Lastly, speed is a big advantage over a traditional pocket pump. It takes one or two minutes to inflate, which is much appreciate when it's cold and you want a short stop. I paid $60 for mine and after two on-the-road flats can attest to it being worth every penny.
Exactly. Those who get it get it.
Get a CO2 cartridge adapter with a decent modulator valve - partial inflation is no problem
@@Llanchlo Exactly. Practice - you will feel more confident with the CO2. Its just a matter of how much weight you want to carry. This mini-inflator has a limitation people dont consider, battery life. Lithium is better, but the number of recharges are finite. And you dont know how much charge you have in it if you havent used it in a year or so. Right? so do you recharge before a ride? how often. Also, what if you have tubless tires and you need to inflate to reseat the tire to the wheel. you are out of luck. you need super high pressure, which you get with a CO2.
@ds94703 Some good points. In my experience, Lithium batteries hold their charge so well that it would still manage an inflation after a year. Anyone who can't remember to charge it once a season will have multiple maintenance neglect issues.
Thanks for the info. How long does it hold its charge? Is it worth recharging/topping up for every outing? I would appreciate it if you can offer some advice.
Regards.
I use Fumpa, excellent pump, been using it for years. They have four different models now, two have psi display but are larger units. Also if you have a TPU tube, you buy an elbow nozzle attachment to ensure heat is not transferred to the plastic valve step I have the mini fumpa and put it in my saddle bag. Their web site claims 0 to 100 psi in 50 seconds on a 700 by 25mm tyre. If I have a flat, after new inner tube fitted, pump the tyre up to it is pretty hard and ride on. If you have hookless tyres, you need a pressure gauge absolutely. For mountain biking, I just take my normal pump, I can get into isolated areas and can use the pump indefinitely.
I only found heat to be an issue when going to high pressures. My normal gravel and MTB pressures didn't generate enough heat to be an issue for TPU tubes.
I also have a Fumpa. They make a larger version that has a gauge. I find myself using the larger one at the garage for all the family bikes. And comes with us for family trips. Great addition for sure. I have been carrying the smaller one on all my rides and I agree, a pressure gauge would be nice, but would add weight and size most likely.
I'm a pump and spare tube man,. In my younger days I had a stint enjoying N2O recreationally from coffeee crema dispensesr (into a balloon). They use the same Cartrdges CO2 users use on bike. Seeing those N2O empties build up weighed heavy on me, so when CO2 became common on bike I haven't been tempted. Riding my bike in nature should be avoiding needless waste. And I see them as needless as I don't compete and pump works. Seeing these electronic pumps get this small is something I could swing to, especially as you say they add a gauge. Still will carry my pump and spare tube though. I've seated my 2.4 tyres and a difficult rim with just a handpump and cargo strap, so their always a way with out fast pressure.
A pump and tube are definite necessities. I bring the electric mini pump in addition. But it is what I reach for first every time. The hand pump is just in case.
@@TroyOnTrails I saw a battery pump a while back with a gauge and was tempted, but now they have become even smaller, I''m glad I waited as I wouldn't have put the other in my ride bag. I see rockbros have a few iterations of this mini format, one has a gauge too.
@@lesterfalcon1350 check my follow up video where I review all the top contenders. The Cycplus As2 Pro is now my go-to. The Best Mini Electric Bike Pumps (and Why You Need One)
ruclips.net/video/61XAHpft9as/видео.html
@@TroyOnTrails Cool, I will do. Unfortunately where I live, many brands are not available. But I'll watch for glean some good advice.
I haven't used a C02 cartridge for pumping a tire in twenty years. Back when I lived in Denver we had goat head thorns and it seemed like I had to use about two of them Everytime I went for a ride.
I moved back to Wisconsin and have had like two flat tires in twenty years. I just went back to using a pump.
With tubeless flats are very rare for me. But topping off a tire is a very common scenario.
I hate battery operated devices that are used rarely. They always seem to be depleted when you need them most. I will keep my co2 thank you😊
@@led1002 it's almost like you could simply check the battery and recharge every so often...
I hear you. I lived most of my life in the midwest and I never had a flat due to a thorn. Usually just some random nail or piece of metal in the road (or when I mis-adjusted my brake pad and wore a gash in the sidewall of my GP4000 - ouch!)
I always carry a mini pump as a backup and as a last resort. They kind of stink but walking 15-20 miles stinks even more. If going out into the middle of nowhere where there is a real possibility of multiple flats. A reliable frame pump is essential and worth the weight. I also carry a presta to shrader adapter for topping off with gas station inflators.
I carry an adapter too. I also carry a mini hand pump just in case. But I carry and use the electric pump 100% of the time. I haven't needed my hand pump, but I like redundancy since I ride in the middle of nowhere often. But I LOVE the ease and speed of the electric pump.
LOL years ago when I was all-in these tech gadgets I tried a few... and returned them all. Problem was 1. It's very very slow, 2. It can't pump up road tyres to high pressure. However it seems the later problem has been resolved, which was the dealbreaker for me back then. Interesting product, glad to finally see some "tech" that has a real-world usage.
I'm all in on tubeless and larger volume tires so high pressure isn't something I need anymore. It definitely does better with lower pressures but still gets the job done at higher pressures.
A good pump and a willing pumper are key to any kit!
Ha. I'm an unwilling pumper. I hate using a mini pump. 😜
This is good to know, as this gadget is promising. It's still too expensive for me to consider, but it's not crazy for some people. One downside is that it needs charging, and remembering to keep it charged is at least as hard as remembering to keep your tires pumped. My mini pump is annoying to use, and I'm thinking of getting a 1970s style frame pump like the Zefal HPX I had years ago. Mini pumps and frame pumps are always ready if annoying to use.
I agree on the price. I wish it was considerably cheaper. That's a lot of money for something you hope you don't have to use.
This. I now have to make sure my HR monitor, power meter, shifters, Garmin computer and rear radar all have battery power. So not exactly excited about adding one more thing to the list.
Set and forget!! I've got a hand pump that stays mounted on my bike along with a puncture kit. It's not the smallest, but it gets me rolling again without ever needing to thnk twice about it and I've had it for 12 years, saving me on a few trips where I've had a slow leak and out of tubes/patches and pumpd it 6-8 times on the way back home. Waterproof too. Only thing I've never understood is why people carry little hand pumps in their jersey pocket than mounting to the bike...vanity!
Definitely vanity. Can't look like a pro rider if you have extra stuff on your bike.
I was in NZ touring a long grade kept seeing deplete co2 cans left on the road then at the tops in a turn out, about 50 of them just dumped there. I used a good pump i always get home leave nothing behind.
Those are likely from airsoft guns. I’ve seen big dumps of co2 like that before. 😢
That’s kiwis for you - they do anything to get High…
Great video. I got the Cycplus tiny bike pump and what I like about it is it does have the gauge on it but instead of using it to measure you set what the pressure you want to be and it just automatically stops when it hits that pressure and I've tested it with my good bike pump and it's pretty close in its accuracy
I’m testing that out right now. 🤫
@TroyOnTrails it does get very hot and recommends using the included small attachment to prevent overheating the value stem. Also, i remembered another advantage of these mini pumps over CO2. CO2 leaks faster after using it. I was told smaller molecules is why.
Very nice video, appreciate your time and effort. As far as the pump is concerned, I wish you could read the tire pressure directly on it while pumping so you know when to stop. Having to carry around another device to read the pressure seems less than ideal.
Agreed. But to be fair, in the field I worry less about accurate ture pressures. It's more about getting rolling again. I hope the next version has a pressure gauge.
Most of my local lumpy gravel rides are mixed surface. I got one of these to top-up whenever I was going to switch to a long stretch of smooth pavement, mid-ride. It's just a quicker way to keep things moving than pumping, and less waste ($$$) than CO2 cartridges - - at least for this use case. I still ride with CO2 and a pump for road rides.
Nice use case. It’s definitely handy. Thanks.
I couldn't agree more. It really needs a gauge with plenty of other products out there that do offer it. Even if the gauges aren't perfectly accurate, it would be nice to have some kind of estimate.
Exactly. The gauge just has to be consistent.
Really cool. Thankfully, I hardly ever flat on my road bike. When i do, I use a #16 co2. I know when the cannister is empty, my tire is full. I dont have to keep stopping, and checking the psi with a gauge.
Nice.
cept when your canisters fail and you turn to your mate who has a hand pump to help you ;-) happened far too often for me to care about canisters
Good work Troy
Thank you so much.
You need the Co2 fast pressure boost if you have a tubeless tire that deflated..in order to pressurize in again and trap the air after plugging a puncture.. faster than converting it to innertube as last resort
I've found when things get that bad, a tube is the way to go.
Presumably you mean if the tyre has come off the bead? I've plugged punctures in my tubeless tyres and pumped them up with a mini hand pump, which is not exactly fast.
thanks for this video troy
Thanks for watching.
@@TroyOnTrails no problem at all
if you are racing or weather is miserable i get the CO2 cartridge (I am an average rider and I carry one as i am just to lazy to use a hand pump). But for the average rider I can see this as a much better option. just make sure is charged before each ride. Will have a look to pick one up i think.
Yup. Hand pumps are too much work.
Yeah i was about to say pressure gage
Check out this video where I review a few of these pumps. The Cycplus with gauge is pretty awesome. ruclips.net/video/61XAHpft9as/видео.htmlsi=NOfmQ42W4PGpRtFe
It’s a bummer they didn’t integrate a pressure gauge on it, other than that, agree with you, looks like a great solution.
Indeed. However, this has sent me down a rabbit hole. I have some interesting stuff coming. Hmm. #teaser
You can charge these kind of gadgets with USB-C out by having some kind of converter / adapter in-between. I have a tiny USB-C male to USB-A female adapter. Use this and the cable you get with the pump and you are good to go. I have quite a few Chinese things with a USB-C charging socket, but they are all really ordinary USB with a USB-C socket 😬.
Yup. They're are also USB-C cables missing the wire to negotiate with the charger for this exact purpose.
I'm always looking for kit to make rides as bombproof as possible. Good video, thanks.
I'm loving it.
bomb proof would be a hand pump...not an electronic pump you forgot to charge, went flat, or just stopped working.
@@out_spocken I've had hand pumps fail too. Now I'm a fan of redundancy. The electric pump is what I use first since it's effortless.
Co2 is fast and cheap and doesn’t need recharging. What could be better?
Not a fan of putting Co2 canisters in the landfill after a single use.
@@TroyOnTrails
Then put them in the recycle like I do.
Cool but why didn't they include a lcd screen that you can set the psi with auto shut off ????
Stay tuned. I think I may have found an option with a pressure gauge. Will be testing it soon.
How do you ensure you do not over-inflate, say a 80 psi, Hybrid trye ?
Stay tuned. I am testing out an option that should solve this.
i really like this idea , this nifty lil gadget ....but ive got a nice track pump already, and i heard these electric pumps with inbuilt gauges don't play nice with tubless tires
They work great with my tubeless tires. Some don't work well with TPU tubes though as they get too hot. But those with hoses solve the problem. I did a follow up shootout video reviewing several of these. ruclips.net/video/61XAHpft9as/видео.htmlsi=mPstjx2XzeGTNIt5
@@TroyOnTrails thanks I'll have a look
the most amazing thing is it plays music when you pumps. LOL
Endless entertainment value. :)
would be cool if you can set the PSI and it stops when it gets there - i'd buy one if it did that
I couldn't agree more. Stay tuned as I'm trying out a few things.
Fanttik does a great job with this, Macky recommended them and cheaper
How long does the battery remain charged if the pump is unused? Can I charge it, drop it in my toolbag and expect it to work the next time I need it, even if that is a couple of months after I charged it, or does the charge leak away over time?
It's hard to say. I've used it a month later without issue. But they're is no battery indicator. I'm testing some alternatives now that claim to solve this and a few of my other wants. Stay tuned.
@@TroyOnTrails Thanks.
Thank you for showing this powerful little buddy! May be worth a consideration for weight weenies 😊
Personally I would not rely on it for two reasons: (1) battery operated requires frequent recharging even without using it, plus the battery has a limited lifetime and cannot be exchanged by the user, and (2) all these things are made in China 🇨🇳 and will probably not last very long. Taking all this into account, these do look way too expensive and not very sustainable to me. I keep my hand pump😊 which is probably also made in China 😅 but at least doesn‘t cost as much and has less environmental impact upon purchase and replacement
I view it as a bonus in addition to my hand pump.
"the battery has a limited lifetime and cannot be exchanged by the user". The first is true, but it probably has a longer life than most people's drivetrains.
The second may be true, or may not be; often manufacturers use off-the-shelf battery packs. Someone will need to open one of these up to check. But FWIW my "non-replaceable" battery in my Garmin satnav took less than two minutes to replace, with a suitable off-the-shelf replacement.
@@ViscountCharles I hear ya, but that's a lot of guessing.
why except for mountain biking? or do you mean except for races? at 7:50 ???
Yes. I think Co2 still has a place in mountain bike races and gravel races where time is a critical factor. When I have flatted in a mountain bike race, I've just used Co2 to see if the tire will seal and hold enough air to get me to the finish.
I'd be curious to know how long the battery stays charged. I get a flat about once a year, so if I charge it in April, and get a flat in August...is it still going to have enough battery to pump up my tire??
Good question. Maybe I'll do a longer-term test and let it sit for a while.
Cool! So now, before going for a ride, I charge my Garmin, my DI2, my smart helmet, my phone, my watch, my pedals, my Varia radar, my front light, my back light …. and my pump.
At this point, what's one more device?
i carry the large size cycle plus unit in my panniers .
i'm on an e bike so the extra weight is not an issue for me .
Yeah. Too big for me.
How does this compare to rock brothers mini electric pump?
Don't bother with either...
Get a small manual pump.
I haven't used the Rock Bros pump. But I suspect they are very similar.
Hmmm interesting, but no gauge is a no go for me. Anyone knows if a pump like this exists with a pressure gauge and also which can fill a flat 2,5x29 mtb tire ? 😁
Cycplus has one that's a little bigger but has a gauge. Fumpa has one much bigger with a gauge as well.
Just picked up the CYCPLUS digital one (which has the digital readout/limiter). One side effect just discovered...it puts out heat. So if the valve stem is plastic, it will melt it (think tubolito) and cause a major issue out in the wild. Basically ruined another person's ride :-(
I've heard of that with TPU tubes, but other than the tire I pumped up to 100 PSI, the valve never got hot enough to cause damage. I pumped up three tires and didn't even realize it but I was touching the valve when I was done.
thanks for the warning. I'll be careful with mine.
Will stick to cartridges and manual pumps. never have to worry about charging yet another device or carrying more weight. The older ways last longer just like anything else
Not for everyone. But I’m glad I made the switch.
Does any one have any experiece with tubeless sealant gumming up the pump?
I've used it exclusively on tubeless tires (except the 100PSI test in the video). No issues so far. Because the pump should be running before you put it on the valve, I don't think it is possible for sealant to gum it up.
How about a 4 inch fat tire eBike tire?
I don't have a fat tire to test but it should work fine since it can do three 29x2.4 tires.
I carry a slightly bigger USB Rechargeable air pump. It is programmable for tire pressure. I really like it. One that small is kinda small.
Nice.
I'm still missing something here. This thing pumps air but where does the air come from?
The air intake is the USB-C port. It seems too small, but works well.
Will it reseat a bead on a tubeless wheel
Only if it's a very easy tire. There is no blast of air like a compressor.
cant seat the beed for your tire that just popped of the rim like Co2
Very true unless it's an easy tire.
Thanks Troy.
You are very welcome
Awesome video . any links to get the Digital tyre gauge ?
Thanks. This is the tire gauge I use. It is fantastic! amzn.to/4afHDOU
Can be used for pellets air guns?
Ok. So there is still a use for Co2. They're also good for whip cream dispensers. :)
The concept of a small battery powered pump is great, but current tech requiring the use of a USB-A charger and not having a PSI readout is ridiculous. I’ll use a hand pump until that is standard.
I have plenty USB-A ports. But yeah, the pressure gauge is a bummer.
@@TroyOnTrails I do too, at the moment, but most devices I have now are usb-c (as is even the pump 😂) so holding on to them is becoming less necessary and hopefully I would have a pump for a while. They should fix that 😉.
Agreed. Only real cyclests use hand pumps. All this tech crap. Why check your pressure with a guage? That's totally f#*cked up. Who cares if it is exactly a specific pressure. Just use your thumb. Irritates me actually.
it doesn't have a gauge on it?
Sadly, no. But I'm testing a few alternatives that do have gauges. Stay tuned.
Who tops off tires during a ride? OCD perhaps?
Some of my rides are a month long. But I oftentimes have a low tire that I didn’t notice before I left home.
There is a much better version on Amazon that's half the price and comes with a digital display. You set the pressure then let it go. I've been using it for my fat bike. It's a game changer.
Is it the Cycplus Cube or something else?
Which one did you get?
Link pls
What model is it?
The amazon versions are cheap and too big to bring on a ride in your pack.
Nice review. I’m going to look into to this! What tire gauge is that?
It's a Topeak tire gauge. I love it.
Thanks for review...how much do they cost?
$85 U.S. Certainly not cheep. There's a link in the description if you want to get one.
Thanks for this information. So I know, that this device will never find it's way in my toolbag.
It's not for everyone. But I sure enjoy having it.
Clearly, seeing as the sticks and stones on your toolbag needs space.
For all the negative comments - you do know we are keeping kids in jobs mining for the precious metals that make up the batteries that we all use !
Sadly, not entirely untrue, I'm sure.
I really want to ditch my CO2, but could this pump survive a cross-country tour? (I have small solar panels to charge things.) I will always carry my hand pump and use it for flats until the pumping gets hard, then top off with something like this. If it fails, no biggie ... just sore arms :) Thanks for the review!
My next big tour isn't until July but yeah. I think this will be my primary pump. I'll have a mini hand pump just in case but I think I'll leave the Co2 at home.
I tour, have cameras to charge up, its a real pain finding a place to charge your devices. When touring, I would never leave home without a spare tire and tube, patch kit and most of all my 120 psi pump.
My CO2 inflator uses cartridges for air guns from Walmart. Like $6 for a box of 20.
Yup. Pretty cheap. But the one use disposable bit has always bothered me.
Problem is battery drain, you leave and forget to recharge after a few months and dead when you need it.
This is certainly a possibility. I'm not the best at keeping track of this stuff yet I haven't had a problem yet. The only time I had an issue is right after shooting this video. I virtuous to charge them so all my pumps were dead. But I discovered this while home and wasn't caught out.
very handy tool
Agreed. More handy than I expected.
What, it’s getting hot? Guess you shouldn’t have thrown away the silicon sleeve!
Truth. If I had tires I needed to Inflate to 100psi still, I would want the sleeve.
Manual pump: Pro: Unlimited inflations Cons: Slow and high effort
CO2: Pros: Low effort, fast Cons: Single use per cartridge, CO2 should be released and replaced with air when you get home
Electric: Pro: Low effort Cons: Slow, 2-3 inflations per charge
I'm lucky in that I only average about 1 flat per year, so I just carry a couple of tubes, a small mini-pump and a CO2 pump. Usually the CO2 is all I need, but if I mess up or get another flat, I have the manual pump as backup. Overkill, probably. Carryover from my single days - now if I get a flat I usually just call my wife and ask her to come get me! I suppose that if I could remember to keep the electric pump charged, it would be more than sufficient for me.
Disadvantage of CO2 as mentioned above is that you really shouldn't leave it in your tires. The CO2 molecules are smaller than N2 and so the tire tends to lose the CO2 pretty quickly. Also, some have said that tire sealant doesn't play well with CO2, so if you are running tubeless, you probably should also deflate and reinflate with air once you get home. I think this rechargeable electric pump is an excellent replacement for CO2! But I'd still pack a mini-pump.
I used to pack a mini pump and Co2. Now I pack a mini pump and the Flextail pump. The big difference is I reach for the electric pump first and the hand pump is my emergency backup.
Got a OneUp EDC pump on my gravel bike. Light (160g), has a hollow CNC body. It can be used as a normal pump, has a really good air volume (I'd say medium effort for 30-35 psi), but the body itself has a storage, which can store 2 co2 cartridges OR one cartridge and a multi-tool, and the head can be removed to use as a co2 inflator.
These electric pumps take the same space as a co2 head + 2 16g cartridge (or more if they are bigger), its loud AF, need to recharge, and its expensive. 100 USD vs. 10-15 for a head and 3-5 / cartridge. The EDC pump goes around 70-75 USD. So this electric horn is a huge no for me. :D
There many brands with a built in gauge and some also allow you to set a pressure target
Will have to check them out.
Not sure I want to think about another thing being charged
I hear you. But I think it's worth it.
Water proof?
Definitely not. The air intake is the USB port which means water can get to the electronics. I'd have no problem using it in the rain but it should be kept dry when carrying it.
Get a better one with auto pressure shut off and actually reads pressure. Can't believe you have to check via another device.
Based on some suggestions. I have a few other options I'll be trying soon. Stay tuned.
@@TroyOnTrails The Cycplus AS2 Pro is pretty good.
Great video! Where can I get one of those NASA cycling caps?
Ha. I don't remember where I got it. But a quick search for NASA cycling cap returned some similar caps.
seems really loud?
It's not quiet. But only really noticeable in a quiet forest.
I want one 😊
Make it so.
Hmm, but a co2 cartridge won't go flat on you if you leave it in the saddle bag for a year :)
Likely not. I've been using it regularly to top off my tires so it's unlikely to go neglected for a year.
Glad you comment on the three tires pumped up. But seems to me that most of us ride on high pressure tires, your 40 miles out, it rains a bit, you get a flat, then with the roads still wet, 2nt flat no where to charge the pump. Tire needs 100 psi you walk. Nice video but that thing won't work for me. Not on my touring bikes, road, gravel, not even my Quatrevelo 20" inch 60 psi tires. So if i understood that you pumped up three tires each at 50 psi = 150 psi for three tires. Or 1 tire up to 100 psi 2nt tire up to 50 psi. Basically your saying if your riding a 105 psi tire you ready have one pump up, two flats you walk. Thank you you save some money.
I still Cary a pump. This just replaces Co2 and becomes my first choice when I need air. All my bikes are tubeless with 38MM being my smallest tire. Thus the lower pressures.
Any chance it could set a bead?
Yes. But it depends on the tire. It won't replace the sudden burst of air you can get from an air compressor but any tire you can seat with a floor pump should work.
I like my CO2 pump. I rarely have to use it. When I have, it always worked. In 20k miles on my bike, I've used it about seven times.
I'm careful with bike maintenance and have liners in all of my tires both road and mountain bike. I don't want anything more to have to charge.
Thanks for sharing
This. I just used my mtb co2 after it sat in my tool pouch for years. All good. If this had been in my pouch for years it would be flat. Yes, I could pull it out and charge it now and then but I don’t see the point.
How much is that in grams?
I can't remember. But it's on the bottom right of the screen when I talk about weight.
$79
The main reason to use CO2 is ability to set up tubeless tire, if it completely off the rim. I'm not sure that this pump able to do that. In all other cases you just use simple hand pump. It's light, It's cheap, it never need to recharge
For me being able to top up a tire quickly and effortlessly mid ride us priceless. A mini pump is just enough work that I'd rather ride my tire to flat before stopping. And if my tire comes off the bead then something went pretty wrong and I'll throw in a tube at that point as most likely they're is no longer any sealant left.
Assuming this wouldn’t stand a chance at reseating a tubeless tyre
Not unless it’s a super easy tire.
I like this. Way better than a hand pump and reusable
I couldn't agree more.
Try Cycplus pump with air pressure screen
Yes. I will have to try it.
@@TroyOnTrails first had model without pressure screen and after they add it pump became perfect. It stopes when reach pressure you want. And very small!
7:40 Oh look, a squirrel!
There were squirrels running around making lots of noise behind me. I wish I could include a video clip with a comment because I had to stop for a bit. They were driving me nuts.
GETTIN' IT TODAY!!!
Nice. Welcome to the future.
As long as it doesn't start smoking.
No smoke so far.
I love bike lights and other gadgets that use usb C ! Ride safe everyone.
USB-C is how USB should have always been.
3 minutes to do what I can do with my hand pump in the same time? All that heat and battery to end up in the landfill?
That's not progress. It's a new toy that will be forgotten about not long after the battery dies.
As with many gadgets, it's a matter of convenience. I really appreciate the convenience.
@@TroyOnTrails fair enough
For me I'm a glider pilot and perhaps I focus a little too much on weight but all these batteries we carry add up. Not to mention unnecessary fire hazards.
I think the hand pumps are all the more impressive when all things are taken into consideration. Thank you for the review.
wish they come with pressure gauge
Yup. As you saw in the video, I routinely thought the tire was at the right pressure only to realize I was well short. A gauge would be amazingly helpful.
Cycplus AS2 Pro and AS2 Pro Max come with LCD pressure display - you can set the pressure and it will shut off once it is reached.
Price please?
$85 U.S. amzn.to/4dfFy80
I’m just looking for enough pressure to get home in the middle of nowhere
This will definitely do that.
My knees hurt just from watching this video... my good man, next time do the inflation test at a workbench while seated....
LOL. By the end squatting was definitely getting more difficult.
Airlines can make you give up CO2 cartridges. Stupidly attached to life jacket they are OK!
So true.
Both options are tiny, carry them BOTH!
I now carry this and a small hand pump. Co2 is handy if you need a blast of air, but not sure it will ever make my kit again. Time will tell. :)
@@TroyOnTrails Small pump likely even better choice than CO2!
Point being that options can be very useful if a certain option fails!
@@TroyOnTrails FWIW: I installed solid rubber Tannus tires (unridden yet) on my Hase Lepus. Limited-mobility, no-balance, wheelchair senior handicapper here.
Ah… so it pumps … great. What it won’t do is seat a tuneless tyre which a gas cylinder often will. That’s the difference. Also the gas takes a few seconds
True. Not something I've ever needed to do (knock on wood). But very true.
Carry a pump. Battery will maybe do two tyres.
How many tires do you have? 😜 but yeah. I carry a pump for emergencies. But reach for the electric pump first every time.
Ever had a double flat? After that you’d be out of luck. Pump always works.
It's neat but, for bikepacking, electric power is a luxury. I'll stay with my mini hand pump.
True. But I hate hand pumps enough that it's justified for me.
Do you make cartoons voices too?
🤔
Yes
Ah, the simplicity of "yes" - short and sweet!
@@TroyOnTrailssome things in life are simple, we tend to over complicate
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Cheer up! Why so bloody negative 😅 🙈 This device will assist a lot of people! Especially if they don't ride a tricycle 😂
It'll actually do three tires if the pressures aren't too high. 😜
You're bikepacking. Can a solar array charge the pump before the hungry bear eats you?
A solar array can't charge anything. I'm not a fan of solar on a bike.