Why I Like Flesh and Blood More Than Magic the Gathering - Flesh and Blood TCG FABTCG

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024

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  • @TheTacticalBat
    @TheTacticalBat Год назад +35

    I switched to Fab two years ago and it was the best decision I've made in my gaming career. I sold all my MTG cards of value to buy boxes of the first two FaB sets. I immediately fell in love with the mechanics and variety of gameplay the different heroes provide.

  • @MrJ4k3R
    @MrJ4k3R Год назад +22

    Big agree. Played FaB since a year after it's inception and have nearly transitioned completely from MTG to FaB since. I prefer the game of FaB to a Commander game just about 9 times out of 10. The only thing FaB needs is a wider player base of non competitive players and a more casual format to keep them engaged. I believe that is on the horizon for FaB as early as 2023 so I'll be continuing to give Legend Story Studios my hard earned money and telling Wizards to go pound sand.

  • @SamuraiMotoko
    @SamuraiMotoko Год назад +9

    Once everybody else become a living legend, the merchants can become meta

  • @jiffyb333
    @jiffyb333 Год назад +20

    Definitely agree with a lot of your points! Although I am perfectly okay with legendary cards costing as much as they do. As you mentioned you only need one of them and a lot of them can be played across multiple different decks. More importantly is that they do have substitutions at lower rarities for a lot of those cards which makes a lot of more budget versions viable. LSS still let you play a non-legendary deck without feeling like it's incomplete. The main reason I am okay with legendaries is that they keep FaB alive. Certainly you have people chasing rare cold foils but a legendary only appearing in every four boxes means people are still going to buy the product which means legend story studios has more capital to keep making the game. And with their current trajectory if I invest into a deck with a hero that isn't as mainstream I'll l likely be able to play with that hero competitively for years to come. :)
    Love your commoner videos by the way, thank you for those fun deck ideas!

    • @TheTacticalBat
      @TheTacticalBat Год назад +1

      I agree, legendary cards are good at their current price point. Despite what some may say, people do not need them unless they're trying to win competitive sanctioned events. If you just want to jam some games with a friend or get the crew together for Ultimate Pit Fight, they're an unnecessary but helpful bonus.

    • @samwhite1448
      @samwhite1448 Год назад

      ​@@TheTacticalBat k

  • @Rosaslav
    @Rosaslav Год назад +15

    I play Magic and FaB only Kitchen tabletop style, where its usually only one or two games in a row.
    In this case Magics manascrew is a real issue and FaB just doesn't have this problem.
    So currently I greatly prefer my FaB blitz decks over my Magic Jumpstart 10x booster set.

    • @thegamesninja3119
      @thegamesninja3119 Год назад +1

      If you have multiple hero decks, try to change heroes each round and see how it goes. This is King of the Fighters format.

  • @mizzogames
    @mizzogames Год назад +8

    Great arguments, to be honest I'm enjoying FaB more and more. Playing MTG since 1995, FaB just bring me back the thrill of a good old fashioned TCG without all the bs Magic is turning into.

  • @dennisemcke8087
    @dennisemcke8087 Год назад +2

    I started one month ago playing FAB. I can agree with many Points you made. One thing I would mention is the fact, that you start with your maximum strenght in FAB while in Magic and most other tcgs you start weak. To start with everything you need to play big turns ensures that nearly every game you will be able to put together one of those turns you and your oponent will talk about.

  • @alexanderpopov3587
    @alexanderpopov3587 Год назад +5

    Starting with both games this year, I am completely overwhelmed by the amount of cards and shifting of the Standard meta of Magic to the level that I cannot play it (even digitally). FaB seems more relaxed and their releases are further apart. The legendary equipment cards are expensive, but they can easily be proxied for casual gameplay since they are not in the deck, so a newbie like me does not have to start with buying $200 cards. One other pro for FaB in contrast to Magic are the excellent starter (blitz) decks for under $10. The closest to this are the Challenger decks in Magic but they are quite more expensive. Jumpstart is also an excellent alternative for new players (the real one, not the renamed theme decks, but buying a box seems more likely to get you a good combo of colors. One negative for FaB is the lack of an official digital app where people can play casually and learn the game easily.

    • @NearlySaneGames
      @NearlySaneGames  Год назад +6

      Not official, but talishar dot net is a pretty good FaB online client.

    • @Zagoreni02A
      @Zagoreni02A Год назад

      If you are new to TCG try Pokemon or Digimon:) But yes Flesh and Blood is quite good game, i dont like fantasy stuff butits ok, and i do not even play TCG (anymore) i collect.

  • @chad0x
    @chad0x Год назад +4

    Great video. Subbed. I really like that you start out fully powered with all your gear then as the battle goes on your equipment gets busted and worn out.

  • @Fefnefef
    @Fefnefef Год назад +2

    your very first point about mtg with hate cards is one of the bigger reasons I stopped playing as a new player. so often me and my friends would just sweep one another and it really wasn't a fun or engaging time. fab looks like it is designed to minimize this as much as possible and I can't wait to get started

    • @NearlySaneGames
      @NearlySaneGames  Год назад +2

      FAB has some hate cards. Warmonger's Diplomacy can make rangers sad for a turn. Themai is a problem for wizards. It is not nearly as bad as Magic though.

  • @MrTyrantSparda
    @MrTyrantSparda Год назад +5

    Great video. I mostly play FaB now too, and for the same reasons you mentioned in the video. I still play magic, but mostly EDH, as my LGS has a large group that supports the casual players who just want to socialize and have fun. But modern, legacy, vintage, and standard, not my jam.
    Currently my favourite heroes are Kassai, Dorinthea, and Iyslander.

  • @Zemoch93
    @Zemoch93 11 месяцев назад +2

    I understand your point. But this comparison is valid for competative players only.
    I enjoy MTG because of all the crazy things you can do in casual formats like Commander.
    Infinite life , mana , creatures, inifite storm ,draw and cast your whole deck etc etc.
    The MTG examples you gave are very specific to competative play and NO casual player ever is going to experience them.
    Currently FaB is a Spike only game. No one makes a FaB deck to "do cool stuff" , you make a FaB deck to win and that's it.

    • @infiniterer287
      @infiniterer287 Месяц назад

      You sound like someone who might like the game of "52 card pickup", it's real crazy, cards everywhere ...

  • @deltablaze77
    @deltablaze77 10 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent Video! You really articulated a lot of the thoughts I was having but hadn't put into words.

  • @kobolder1342
    @kobolder1342 Год назад +2

    I have been play FAB since Oct 2021. And i have to say, its alot of fun, and you can make jank that is alot of fun

  • @BriceBeNic3
    @BriceBeNic3 Месяц назад

    Sold all my high end magic cards for Fab too. All the issues above really matters to the quality of the game also the affordability to be able to play competitive formats is WAY BETTER in monetary point of view and longevity.
    The 120$ I spent on a tunic for example gave me more gameplay than any magic card of the same value in the span of 2 years and still going.
    Modern in magic needs like 50-90$ cards and 4 copies and it was silly.
    I made Prism deck with 90$ and have fun with it more than any of the invested commander/modern deck I made.

  • @Novakane32
    @Novakane32 3 месяца назад

    Great video, I learned to pay MTG during the pandemic on Arena. When i tried FAB it was a more enjoyable experience due to having a high level of interaction on offense and defense. Also, pitch stacking is a great idea for a TCG!

  • @paxgamer3003
    @paxgamer3003 Год назад

    Great video! Thanks for breaking it all down. I am going to use this format in a video explaining why I love the Game of Thrones competitive LCG. Another fantastic game that completely fixes all of the problems MTG has while providing unique gameplay and a sky-high skill ceiling.

  • @mauroannettawolf3422
    @mauroannettawolf3422 Год назад +2

    All perfect points. Lets go FAB!

  • @ussassu
    @ussassu Год назад +1

    "No rotation" formats only isn't exactly positive long term, it will increase entry cost and make it harder for new players to learn the game as well. This isn't an issue yet because game is young, but my guess is rotation formats will be created in some years from now.
    I also don't agree with the take of "never changing your deck", because that's a big part of cards games, or as well because surely you would get bored playing the same deck all the time. Even with "no rotation" there is new expansions released that change meta, so you will often change decks anyway, if you value staying at least somewhat competitive.

    • @NearlySaneGames
      @NearlySaneGames  Год назад

      The Living Legends provides somewhat of a rotation. It's not all upside, but even so, non-rotating formats are still the most popular Magic formats. There's always limited for a change up. I agree there will still be updates to decks, but, at least for now, those don't come in premium priced sets.

    • @thegamesninja3119
      @thegamesninja3119 Год назад

      Why does a new player have to actually own the game to start? Vet players would benefit to have a set of precon blitz decks they can play with new players. New players try out a number of heroes until they find one or several they like. At that point, the new player gets their own deck and the experienced player can give the new player some extra commons they have to the new player to build a sideboard.
      Most games typically have just one owner in the area. One can treat FaB the same way.
      On this note, I am thinking of pushing for the formation of FaB dojos to help onboard new players. Complete with rituals and customs to make onboarding more fun and meaningful.

  • @decrabtra
    @decrabtra Год назад +1

    I actually dont think jank is too bad in fab! I think it is hard to win on a bad hero but fab is a best of one format where you use matchup experience to side deck before you even fight for the first time so throwing an unorthodox strat at your opponent, as long as it can do decent numbers, can be good! There are much less wacky ways to win but i dont see that as bad neccessarily cause getting cheesed out with thassas oracle like effects in magic feels like shit

  • @Zeke8762
    @Zeke8762 Год назад +2

    Great video! What are those clamshells you have your equipment in?

    • @NearlySaneGames
      @NearlySaneGames  Год назад +2

      Those are Mini-Snap cases. I think a few different companies make them. Mine are from Ultra Pro.

  • @xlnt2new
    @xlnt2new Год назад +1

    Tunic is not that expensive and/or mandatory - class specific legendary chests do exist

    • @NearlySaneGames
      @NearlySaneGames  Год назад +2

      $200+ is a lot for me to spend on a piece of cardboard, especially if I'm just getting into a game. I agree some heroes don't need tunic, but many of them like to have it available.

  • @madscientist2621
    @madscientist2621 Год назад +1

    Long time MTG player here. I know next to nothing about FaB but after doing some research online, it seems to me that in competitive play, there are a ton of "same" decks. As in, small number of heroes and gear that are worth playing. Is this true? Does it affect the meta? My LGS is going to start carrying FaB product. Im interested in learning more.

    • @infiniterer287
      @infiniterer287 Месяц назад

      Of course, just look at the meta. It's a hero based game, so it will always have a limited top-end, just like rpg and moba games.

  • @mistercakes
    @mistercakes Год назад +1

    Adding of modern horizon 2 is kind of equivalent to crown of providence.

    • @NearlySaneGames
      @NearlySaneGames  Год назад +1

      I never felt that Crown was a necessity. I think Skullcap is just as good in most decks.

    • @mistercakes
      @mistercakes Год назад

      @@NearlySaneGames hard disagree! get out of C&C free is pretty valuable.

  • @stigmurder99
    @stigmurder99 5 месяцев назад

    I love Flesh and Blood so much, I started about a year ago and it quickly became my favorite game. I tried to go back and play commander with friends a few times and got bored with it so quickly. Mtg has gotten so annoying with the constant releases, not to mention the ridiculous things they've tried to jam into the game,the AI art, raising pack prices and more. Long live LSS and Flesh and Blood. 😁

    • @infiniterer287
      @infiniterer287 Месяц назад

      To be fair, AI can produce far beyond fab level art...

  • @danirookie
    @danirookie Год назад

    what a great comparision! really considering to jump in, so what do you think is the best pack/starter kit to begin with? btw dyk if there is any solo mode around? best

    • @NearlySaneGames
      @NearlySaneGames  Год назад +1

      Go check out Talishar.net. It is a free fan-made client that works pretty well (kinda like MTGO). You can import decks from Fabdb.net or fabrary.net. There is a single player mode that is basically goldfishing your deck, but could be useful to see how the game works. I'd start with Commoner. Cheap and a lot of fun. Outsiders is the most recent set and it is good if you just wanted to pick up a box. The starter decks are good to play against each other, but lacking in power.

  • @FabricioKarim
    @FabricioKarim 7 месяцев назад

    I played Magic since 1995. Now I onli keep one modern deck and one commander deck to play with my friends. In 2021 I discovered Flesh and Blood. I like it because plays completily ditfernt from Magic, as pointe in this video. Recentily I've been playing FaB Round of the Table bos with my friends.
    Last year I start playing Grand Archive TCG. Is like 50% MtG, 50% original mechanics and no land cards.I like the art style too. A GA competetive deck costs half of other games.

    • @infiniterer287
      @infiniterer287 Месяц назад

      GA vs FAB...
      Honest opinion? 🤔

    • @FabricioKarim
      @FabricioKarim Месяц назад

      ​@@infiniterer287 For me, GA. It is in the right spot, in middle of the way between "clone of MtG" and "complete diferent". ... Also, no lands. I bought 5 starter decks of each. I spend +/- US$ 15 upgrading Dorintia's deck. buying cards from brasilian stores. I import 6 box of GA, upgrade all 5 deck and build 3 more.

    • @infiniterer287
      @infiniterer287 Месяц назад

      @@FabricioKarim interesting. Yea I want to try both and GA definitely looks like "cleaner" gameplay but Fab seems to have better strategy....

    • @FabricioKarim
      @FabricioKarim Месяц назад

      @@infiniterer287 you can do what I did to begin playn GA. In the botton of Get started section of GA website ther are 2 PDF with printable decks.

  • @Ramekin
    @Ramekin 21 день назад +2

    Your mana screw example has to be the most disingenuous thing I've ever seen. You're holding in your had two Mantis Riders, a Blue/Red/White 3/3 with flying vigilance and haste. It's an unplayable card in any constructed format. And also in your had are two Bloodbraid Elves. These *might* be playable but they add an extra color: green. And then in your mana base you have a black source: Blood Crypt. You're implying that you're playing a *Five color deck* with these dogshit cards and you're complaining about mana screw?!?! You mention deck construction being important later in the video for your flesh and blood decks. You say: "you'll be able to cast your cards if you construct your deck properly." And yet you showcased an MTG deck that is heinously constructed to prove your point that Magic's mana system is bad.
    The only reasonable competitive format where these cards are available is Modern (a format you specifically mention later in you video, so you know what it is). Modern mana bases are incredible, you can easily play four color decks off the back of fetch lands. You obviously know this, because you specifically call out Blood Moon--the card that keeps 4 color piles from taking over the format--as an odious hate piece.
    Your point boils down to: Magic decks are bad if they're constructed badly and don't consider the metagame.
    I'm sure this is also true of Flesh and Blood decks. Mana problems do exist is Magic, but your examples shouldn't be "Bad five color deck" and "Bad Tron hand."

  • @FlyAwayTooHighToday
    @FlyAwayTooHighToday Год назад

    i started the game around uprising, bought myself 2 starter decks and 2 boxes. i pulled 0 legendaries, every display got a value of around 40 euros pulled for around 90 euros per display. my best pull was a marvel ouvia and thats it. went to some local events and tried to compete with my fai deck, but just wasnt able to stand the other players with their expensive legendaries. i quit the game after that and kept it with magic commander. its a horrible design and all your boxes value is decided on pulling a legendary or not.

    • @NearlySaneGames
      @NearlySaneGames  Год назад +1

      As with any card game, we know it is better to buy singles than to open product. Ask The Professor about it. There is a definite skill curve to learning the game and lack of legendaries just put you further behind. There are entry points, like Commoner, that don't require expensive cards. You could also gain skills with any deck for free on talishar dot net.

    • @royalecrafts6252
      @royalecrafts6252 6 месяцев назад

      I go to the casino and play blackjack if I want to play with odds, I wont pay for a random pack with random cards lol thats dumb af

  • @leonelsamayoa3260
    @leonelsamayoa3260 Год назад +1

    If you play blitz it is die roll bonanza, only CC is actually balanced IMO, blitz is so dependant on who goes first.

    • @Churchless
      @Churchless Год назад +4

      Blitz can definitely be very swingy but it doesn't really rely on who goes first. It's more reliant on if your opponent has a fire hand you don't have the life padding to seize tempo. Learning how and when to block is really important in blitz.

  • @RexxGames
    @RexxGames Год назад

    Just started playing FaB and although I think the game is absolutely great. For me the absolute Biggest differentiator right now is MtG has INFINITELY more deck building choices compared to FaB . This game is still new and so maybe the card pool isn't as deep and I'm less experienced but deck building is the biggest draw for me and unfortunately I don't see a world where this game actually can overcome some of the constraints of the game (which is a good thing keeps it's more "competitive" ) however the replayability for me fades so much faster.

    • @HazZzur
      @HazZzur Год назад +2

      MtG had 30 years, this had 3. Give it time. In 5 years, the deckbuilding opportunities will be good.

    • @thegamesninja3119
      @thegamesninja3119 Год назад +1

      I recall Richard Garfield speaking of the jungle in regards to Keyforge and dealing with what one has. One idea is to master what one is dealt to know it before knowing what one needs. Magic is much more won in the building than a tactical game like FaB

  • @RockerfellerRothchild1776
    @RockerfellerRothchild1776 Год назад

    No tapping ...looks odd no movement

  • @thegamesninja3119
    @thegamesninja3119 Год назад

    Magic has a manipulate the meta flow of a game, which is about wizards dueling. Such has the formulation of strategies away from the table. It has issues that a game like Mage Wars where all cards player use can be put in a binder and accesed in a game.
    Flesh and Blood is a fighting game, which involves much more tactical play and reacting. Tactics in Magic are puzzles, not the same as a fighting game.

    • @thegamesninja3119
      @thegamesninja3119 Год назад

      Part 2: I am approaching Flesh and Blood AS a fighting game with cards and looking to ambassador the game to fighting game community. I am NOT treating it as a CCG, just a game playable with precon blitz that are like Fighters in fighting games. I want to develop a King of the Fighters format where players form a team of precon blitz decks and replace the hero that lost the prior rounds. Heroes that lost are out of the games. First player to win so many rounds wins the game.
      In short, my message to the FaB community is to NOT think of it as a rival to Magic, but as a fighting game and target the fighting game community. Magic players can pick up a few precon blitz decks and just play FaB for a change of pace. They do not even need to do that, just play FaB with someone who has precon blitz decks until they are used the game. Community can support a game, and not everyone needs to own a game to play it.
      There are better pure fighting card games out there, BUT... they do not have the growth or community FaB has now.

  • @HaveAVindicare
    @HaveAVindicare Год назад +4

    Because all the cards look the same and have very little scope?

    • @NearlySaneGames
      @NearlySaneGames  Год назад +6

      I know, right? It's like Cowl Prowler and Primordial Wurm. Same card, amiright?

    • @jasoncook2715
      @jasoncook2715 Год назад +4

      Magic has been reusing card mechanics and such since forever.

    • @HaveAVindicare
      @HaveAVindicare Год назад

      @@jasoncook2715 Yeah but not the same art to pretend to be 3 slightly different cards. 1 of which is useful and the other two are trash.

    • @jasoncook2715
      @jasoncook2715 Год назад +4

      @@HaveAVindicare yeah you have no idea about this game. Good try. Go back to magic

    • @HaveAVindicare
      @HaveAVindicare Год назад +1

      @@jasoncook2715 Thanks! I will. It's a better game with coherency between art and flavour.

  • @tacotacotacobajablast6821
    @tacotacotacobajablast6821 Год назад

    you should try poker!

    • @NearlySaneGames
      @NearlySaneGames  Год назад +1

      I'm too busy losing all my money cracking packs.

  • @katarinagamersgal
    @katarinagamersgal Год назад +3

    Because FaB is popular at the moment,and MTG is backlashed so you are bending as the wind blows because you have no spine,just like the grass does.

    • @jasoncook2715
      @jasoncook2715 Год назад +8

      You seriously enjoy bashing a new game? You clearly haven't played the game. Instead of bashing it, ignore it. If it's not a mtg killer, then why are you scared of it?

    • @AnonningAnon
      @AnonningAnon Год назад +4

      L comment

    • @thegamesninja3119
      @thegamesninja3119 Год назад

      One can prefer other things over Magic and still play Magic. One issue I have with CCGs and lifestyle games is that one's gaming life is just one game. For me, I am taking an approach of myself being the only owner of a game in the area. I will lean on FaB because it does have players.

    • @Acidblack027
      @Acidblack027 11 месяцев назад

      Fab is fun but it’s no mtg. Gameplay in Fab is very linear and the necessary cards are still quite expensive. Mtg is far more diverse is its strategies . Plus a lot of us like locking people out of plying. It’s part of the game