16-Port 10Gb Managed Switch for under $400???

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
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    10-Gigabit is expensive, especially when you need more than just a couple ports. Enter the Mikrotik CRS317-1G-16S+ switch... a 16-Port 10-Gigabit switch to run at the top of your server rack, enabling lightning fast transfers between all of your servers.
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Комментарии • 341

  • @TeamNoLackin79
    @TeamNoLackin79 3 года назад +321

    You know when he is a true IT professional when he scheduled at a non production after hour maintenance to perform the cutover for his home network so he family is not effected by the plex/internet outage.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  3 года назад +221

      The SLA they have me under is criminal....

    • @TeamNoLackin79
      @TeamNoLackin79 3 года назад +67

      @@CraftComputing LOL. I completely understand. Also, it doesn't help since they have in-house IT support they know they have free life time tech support. The SLA in my home is tighter than any international corporate conglomerate, 100,000+ user organization I ever had to support lol. The SLA is 100.1% uptime or I get complaints, woke up out my sleep, no breakfast, lunch, or dinner until the issue has been resolved. Unless, there is a power outage. The outage is always my fault.

    • @Darkk6969
      @Darkk6969 3 года назад +6

      @@TeamNoLackin79 I know the feeling of no sleep, breakfast, lunch or dinner until the issues are resolved. I make a point to take comp days off so I don't get burned out. My boss completely understands that and don't mind taking those days off even though I still check on systems from home. lol.

    • @RootSwitch
      @RootSwitch 3 года назад +8

      My brother lives with me so my maintenance window is when I know he's asleep. Regrettably there have also been some "no impact" changes made in production that didn't exactly go to plan. He gets nervous anytime he sees me near my equipment.

    • @TeamNoLackin79
      @TeamNoLackin79 3 года назад +10

      @@RootSwitch Lol yep. My wife does the same thing. My kids say "what did you break this time" and how long is going to be down for.

  • @trickyd-wc7bq
    @trickyd-wc7bq 3 года назад +17

    Now that Mikrotik have enabled the ASIC based L3 offloading in ROS V7 it's an extremely powerful bit of kit and will do L3 routing at 10g wire speed. You wont beat that for the price!

  • @hardleecure
    @hardleecure 3 года назад +22

    3 seconds in and I know this is going to be good. Mikrotik are such an underrated company. All the features and performance of Cisco at 1/10th the cost.

    • @AtanasPaunoff
      @AtanasPaunoff 2 года назад

      Talking about Cisco I bought my Nexus 6000 with 48x10G+4x40G for little over $600 ;) Also happens to buy Brocade VDX6740 for $125 and HP 5900 for $300... So what is the point to buy Mikrotik when you can buy better for less money ? BTW my Cisco cost over $50 000 new, so I paid 1/100 of the price...

    • @zunrue1
      @zunrue1 Год назад

      MTBF ratings and other integration features would like a word

  • @AmitCantPlay
    @AmitCantPlay 3 года назад +13

    Slowly but surely you're doing exactly what I wanted to do at my job, I'm the only IT person there =s Thank you for your help!

  • @maarts665
    @maarts665 3 года назад +4

    Just saw thumbnail and it made me click instantly. I see Mikrotik, I smash that like button. Mikrotik is a company from small European country called Latvia 🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻. And it is awesome that they get more and more exposure, even Linus, the tech tippy one, has one 😍

    • @FotisLYKOS
      @FotisLYKOS 8 месяцев назад

      Linus proof hmm says alot rotfl...

  • @AzraelIgnis
    @AzraelIgnis Год назад +2

    My fiance at home. She knows when I buy new equipment because I'm occupied in a different productive way. First thing she says, " What did you buy?" I bought a DMS-106xt yesterday. She then looked and saw new flashing lights. "What is that?" I said a switch. I'm slowly building my network. Now I'm here to see what type of 10g switches are out there.

  • @GearSeekers
    @GearSeekers 3 года назад +45

    That's one way to make me spend more money :P

  • @rubenuijtde
    @rubenuijtde 3 года назад +3

    A lot of time went into that thumbnail illustration for sure. Nice video!

  • @zuexs690
    @zuexs690 3 года назад +21

    Well Jeff, looks like we both have the same switch now 👀

  • @olipitt12
    @olipitt12 3 года назад +4

    Hey Jeff! love your content, slight misspeak at 02:38 its a C13 cable, which is the standard PC cable, the C15 is specifically the heat rated connector, (the bloody annoying one with the notch out of it) will still work though, Props on getting the actual cable name and not just calling it kettle lead!
    Edit:
    rebelangel66
    , got it though before me

  • @sysbofh
    @sysbofh 3 года назад +7

    Strictly speaking, You can run it as a pure switch with RouterOS too. The SwitchOS is easier to configure VLANs, but You can do it on both of them. And with RouterOS you get all its features - even using it as a pure switch.

    • @Enonymouse_
      @Enonymouse_ 3 года назад

      Router OS is less stable and not as well developed as SwitchOS.

    • @sysbofh
      @sysbofh 3 года назад +1

      @@Enonymouse_ No, not really. I use both, and they are equally rock solid.
      ROS has a lot more features than SwOS.
      SwOS has a much easier interface, and when You have similar products, the ones that are SwOS only are cheaper.
      Each of them has its uses. You just have to buy accordingly.

  • @robluce6334
    @robluce6334 3 года назад +7

    The CRS317 (and the CRS3xx Mikrotik switches in general) are vastly underappreciated. Hardware L3 switching was added to the CRS317 in RouterOS Release 7.0beta7. I've had hardware L3 routing running on my 317 for almost the past year. Mikrotik added hardware routing to all of their CRS3xx switches in RouterOS 7.1beta6. When you bring these switches up to that level, they will run circles around ANYTHING in their class.

  • @maneeshparihar
    @maneeshparihar Год назад

    Thanks for a thorough video covering this fabulous switch and your home lab seems exciting.. kudos

  • @RussSirois
    @RussSirois 3 года назад +7

    Thank you for covering SwOS on this unit! Most people just say to go with RouterOS because it's more featured packed (including everything SwOS does), but I always ask why? It's not being used as a router!
    I wonder how this stacks up to something like a HPE 1950 12XGT? Other than the fact that it's all SFP+. We've got nothing but HPE at work but with the massive price difference between those two switches MikroTik is looking pretty good...

    • @nullstream
      @nullstream 3 года назад +1

      Works well as a layer 2 switch but does not do so well with layer 3. Not incredibly picky about SFPs so far. FS generic (copper and fiber) work just fine. That blue light is a lighthouse BEACON for sure. Crazy bright even for blue LEDs

    • @sin3r6y98
      @sin3r6y98 2 года назад

      It's a bit more than that, RouterOS 7 introduces support for MC-LAG and some quite decent layer 3 offload. This makes it affordable and useful layer 3 switch when you have a BGP / OSPF fabric to use it in.

    • @Joshv918
      @Joshv918 2 года назад

      RouterOs also has more features like seeing cdp and lldp neighbors and just show you more of what’s going on.. but trickier to configure to get hardware offloading but not to bad

  • @nbrowser
    @nbrowser 3 года назад

    The best part...Jeff moving his face around, some giggles had there...the struggles of capturing video from a camera and PC at the same time!

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox 3 года назад +23

    Ayyyyy! I've been rocking this one for a year or two now :)
    You don't need to plug both PSUs in, BTW!

    • @mightyhalo
      @mightyhalo 3 года назад +7

      But if you have one in the wall and one in the UPS, it stays up even during UPS maintenance :)

    • @dashtesla
      @dashtesla 3 года назад +1

      Unacceptable.

    • @mightyhalo
      @mightyhalo 3 года назад

      @Find Truth Yeah, that does not sound like a homelab xD

    • @SuperVincenot
      @SuperVincenot 3 года назад

      Yeah didn't he say that one of them is just redundance.
      Generous to give redundance PSU for that price

  • @RemyL75
    @RemyL75 3 года назад +5

    1:03 mark..... I never thought I would ever have to say this to you. BUT.... you F****** tease! Also, I have nowhere near enough 10Gb systems to use this (OK, I could get it to 50%), and i didn't even know this existed, but now I WANT one. Damn you, Jeff!

    • @MichaelSmith-fg8xh
      @MichaelSmith-fg8xh 3 года назад +1

      There are 4 and 8 SFP+ fanless versions as well

    • @RemyL75
      @RemyL75 3 года назад

      @@MichaelSmith-fg8xh I have the 4-port version (1st video I saw on it was Jeff's review), and was planning to get the 8-port version. Jeff has now ruined the plan lol.

    • @MichaelSmith-fg8xh
      @MichaelSmith-fg8xh 3 года назад +1

      @@RemyL75 I’ve been running the 8 (very happy, only annoyance is needing a reboot if I make a dramatic change). Before I got it, I thought there was no need for that many SFP+ (but I heeded sth’s warning about how often they replace the 4 port version due to growth)… then I bought a few rj45/SFP+… and found cheap SFP+ NICs… and now there’s only just enough ports.

  • @bradnoyes7955
    @bradnoyes7955 3 года назад +7

    7:04 Can you just make the face video bounce around the screen like those DVD screensavers? Face in the way? Just wait a few seconds for it to bounce away.

  • @PopgoestheWiesle
    @PopgoestheWiesle 2 года назад +2

    I've been a long supporter of Mikrotik ever since I started migrating my network equipment to them 4 years ago. It's hard to beat the price for the vast feature set you get. The only negative I will mention is that the CLI and GUI take a while to get used to. But once you figure it out, it's smooth sailing.

  • @perdomot
    @perdomot 3 года назад

    The most impressive thing in this video is Jeff reciting the complicated names of all the parts. True Nerd Cred brother. LOL

  • @marksterling8286
    @marksterling8286 3 года назад +2

    Fun fact vlan 1003 is supposed to be a reserved vlan for token ring, but it’s also the vlan to present to Apple’s Airports if you want a separate subnet for your guest WiFi.

  • @RavingMad
    @RavingMad 3 года назад

    I watch your content on and off. Funny enough, the first video I watched from you was the one on Mikrotik CRS305. Even more hilarious is the fact that I wasn't even aware of Mikrotik at that time and I was looking around for something that would let me do stuff (I have an IT but non-networking background). I was moving from netgear/linksys default and dd-wrt firmwares. Long story short, I kept digging into Mikrotik portfolio and I've now gone through a complete facelifting of my home network with all mikrotik at routing and core switching layers.
    Based on what I know, this switch you got is the current top of the line switch offering from Mikrotik (I happen to have the CRS309, which has the same Switch chip + SoC and is similarly capable with half the ports). There are a lot of benefits to use RouterOS in this switch (as well as anything from Mikrotik that allows it). In general if you are able to use RouterOS in a Mikrotik device then you have lots of management options winbox and/or web GUI via Linux/Mac/Win PC, full featured mobile App from Android and Apple, Home Assistant and Ansible integration for automation (using API) etc. The SwitchOS can only be managed over web console.
    In particular to this switch (as well as the CRS309), if you use RouterOS and don't mind living on the edge, you can deploy version 7, and that will allow for hardware offloading of basic IP switching. This can essentially turn this switch into an extremely capable monster, capable of 10Gbps VLAN routing, i.o.w. a basic wirespeed L3 switch. Based on the descriptions I've read that should be good enough for home environment. As far as I've learned by dabbling into SwOS the inter VLAN routing function is completely missing. I'd suggest keep dabbling into RouterOS 7 capabilities for this switch, and you can make this switch an even more prominent part of your network.
    Lastly, fruity and scented IPAs give me extreme heart burn and some of the most annoying hangovers. So, it's a complete no-no for me.
    Thanks and keep up the great work.
    P.S.: BTW according to Mikrotik website this switch is supposed to have included not 1 but 2 power cords. Since the middle of the pandemic I've been getting packages from Amazon and such with missing parts and accessories also. It's been quite annoying and I think is directly attributable to lack of human resources at play for various checkpoints in packaging. Oh well, 1st world problems.

  • @iamashyura
    @iamashyura 3 года назад

    Dude. I've been wanting to get that switch. Ur video will really help a lot. Thanks !!

  • @diezam
    @diezam 3 года назад

    Great video, thank you for taking the time to make it.

  • @etherboy3540
    @etherboy3540 3 года назад +28

    Holy crap, I had no idea you could get this kind of gear new for $400.

    • @brandishwar
      @brandishwar 3 года назад +4

      Mikrotik has had a line of 10GbE switches out for a few years now. I swapped out an old Quanta LB6M (with it's LOUD!!! fans) for the CRS 317 a little over 2 years ago - even ordering it from Latvia directly since that's where I got the cheapest price, even adding in shipping. They work great for home or small business.

    • @MrRedcecil
      @MrRedcecil 3 года назад

      Mikrotik has got some awesome produkt in 10Gb range... This is my switch... CSS326-24G-2S+ (i dont need more 10Gb ports ) ;-)

    • @eduncan911
      @eduncan911 3 года назад

      You can get 10G for much much cheaper, and far faster, than that:
      forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/brocade-icx-series-cheap-powerful-10gbe-40gbe-switching.21107/
      Brocade ICX6610-24P
      16x SFP+ 10G (8x via 2x rear QSFP+ 40G breakout cables, which are just $10 each as well)
      24x PoE+
      2x QSFP+ (40G)
      $100-$150 on eBay (48P are also in the $100-$180 range)
      And the Brocade's are all full L3 hardware line-rate ASIC switches, unlike the Mikrotik which offloads ACL and many other things to the slow CPU.

    • @vdubjunkie
      @vdubjunkie 3 года назад

      Now comes the tough question. Would you want a sub $400 10G switch in an environment you care about?

    • @etherboy3540
      @etherboy3540 3 года назад +2

      @@vdubjunkie For my homelab, 100%. I'm not paying at work so I'll stick with Juniper there.

  • @znzbest2004
    @znzbest2004 3 года назад +1

    Mikrotik CRS312-4C+8XG-RM is also a good option if you need more Ethernet ports. Those ports are 1/2.5/5/10G

  • @kozygeorg
    @kozygeorg 3 года назад +2

    I have never tasted alkohol before, but I always find your beer review very interesting lol

  • @jbonn5365
    @jbonn5365 3 года назад +1

    Jeff... You can blur and try to obscure your switch password all you want. We all know it's "solarwinds123"! Haha! Joking aside, I'm glad your covering this mikrotik, I've been debating adding this one to my rack and going the 10g route myself.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  3 года назад +4

      Actually, I made it much more secure. Now it's "$olarwinds12345!"

    • @jbonn5365
      @jbonn5365 3 года назад +1

      @@CraftComputingohh... Phew! That is significantly more secure!

  • @CoalitionGaming
    @CoalitionGaming 3 года назад +1

    I love this thumbnail

  • @steventran9288
    @steventran9288 3 года назад

    Been following your channel. Last year I started building out my ideal computer setup (Lian Li DK-05 desk with dual PC's with with EVGA FTW 3090/AMD 5950X). I needed a lab and came across your videos. Ended up getting a Netshelter CX 24U rack, Dream Machine Pro, 10G 16XG switch, 24 port POE switch and got some Supermicro 1u chassis with the D-1541 boards. Saw your videos and got some of the 1u builds you had in videos too. Also building the Chenbro NAS you made a video on for an interim NAS (I have a 45 Drives 45 drive Stornado I'll be bringing online eventually too, the Seagate Exos drives sadly doubled in price last few weeks). Now debating on getting these switches too, damn you :)

  • @Dummvogel
    @Dummvogel 3 года назад +2

    I actually like that they don't put power cables in the box. Because most of the time you just throw them in your pile of shame of unused power cables.

    • @pearcomputers2542
      @pearcomputers2542 3 года назад +1

      For them it also it makes logistics much easier (they don't have to pack diffrent boxes for diffrent countries).

    • @Dummvogel
      @Dummvogel 3 года назад

      @@pearcomputers2542 and it's rack mountable. So most people will use C13-C14 cables anyway.

  • @DotBowder
    @DotBowder 3 года назад +2

    Suggestion: To avoid moving your webcam, resize your browser to be smaller than the full recording canvas, thus exposing your background. Place your webcam on one of the two sides, and leave the extra space black. This way you wouldn't have to fuss with it.

  • @benjamindewaele4103
    @benjamindewaele4103 3 года назад

    It actually does come with power cables, we use these fairly regularly and we don"t have any complaints about them :)

  • @droknron
    @droknron 3 года назад

    Something to note about the Unifi 16-XG. There are many.. many revisions of it. I have hardware revision 12 or 13 and it's very quiet. I wouldn't say it's inaudible or silent but it's quiet. I personally modified mine by changing out its 2 x 30mm fans for 2 x 40mm Noctuas and now it's not audible at all for me and the temperature even lowered.
    As an owner of this switch I did some research prior to purchase and found the earlier revisions had a lot of issues. One of which was very loud fan noise but a lot of problems with dying RJ45 ports. This has all been corrected in the currently shipping version which they've been selling for about a year and a half now.
    The Mikrotik is really nice too of course and I did 100% consider this exact model before purchasing my 16-XG from Unifi but I felt it would be easier to do the fan mod I wanted on the Unifi with some 3D printed baffles and I knew I could get it inaudible once I had it, the Mikrotik was a bit more of a question mark in this regard and of course doesn't integrate into the Unifi Controller which while not super important is nice to have since all my stuff is Unifi.

  • @NickBouwhuis
    @NickBouwhuis Год назад +1

    DAC = Direct Attach Copper in my book. Therefor DAC cable is not reduntant (to me at least)

  • @jas9450
    @jas9450 3 года назад

    Awesome addition to your server rack 👍

  • @Meowbay
    @Meowbay 5 месяцев назад

    Would be better if they offered an RJ45 version of that same router. I know very few homelabs and small businesses that have even one optical link anywhere.. If they have, it's usually only 1 (their fiber-uplink).

  • @JasonsLabVideos
    @JasonsLabVideos 2 года назад

    I think im going to order this now !! Thanks Jeff!

  • @daves4081
    @daves4081 3 года назад

    Love my CRS312-4C, I frequently use my home lab for customer demonstrations and love the fact folks go "WTF, that was fast..." (10G + NVMe rules! just don't tell my wife)

    • @D9ID9I
      @D9ID9I 3 года назад

      O'rly. Especially 1Gbe link to CPU. Try L3 on that joke.

    • @daves4081
      @daves4081 Год назад

      @@D9ID9I Yeah I don't use the L3 functions. I just found it to be the cheapest 12 port 10 Gbps device a the time 🙂

  • @Darkk6969
    @Darkk6969 3 года назад +1

    That's odd about the missing power cords as mine came with it. Maybe depending on who you order it from since they do make them for both US and International markets. Got mine from Amazon which pointed me to a reseller in Latvia. Ironically not too far from MikroTik's HQ. :)

    • @RootSwitch
      @RootSwitch 3 года назад

      I also ordered mine off Amazon and it came with 2 power cables. Absolutely love MikroTik's switches for Layer 2 10Gb.

  • @sybreeder86
    @sybreeder86 3 года назад

    I got 2 of them for work some time ago. second as cold spare. Still better value than 1 ubiquiti. Easy to setup

  • @Wrasko
    @Wrasko 3 года назад

    Thanks. Going to seperate the network in a house i own into 4 vlans, and looks like this might be able to help me find correct equipment. RouterOS might be something because of firewall. :).

  • @geekdomo
    @geekdomo 2 года назад

    I bought this on your recommendation (among other channels recommending as well). I am really stuck. All I did was replace my old 10GB switch which had 4 10GB ports with this one because the hope was to get my home lab up and running all 10GBe. As soon as I installed this switch, rebooted in SWOS and I tested my 2 10GB computers with iperf3. Both prior would max out around 7-8Gbps. With this new switch I would get a whopping 2-3Gbps. Went to the forums looking for help Nothing. The documentation is laughable at best. Now trying to find a Cisco solution because this switch is horrible out of the box.

  • @rebelangel66
    @rebelangel66 3 года назад +2

    2:33 those look like c14 sockets which needs an c13 plug not c15. c15 does fit though.

  • @Wizerd-2024
    @Wizerd-2024 3 года назад +2

    We use these in our fibre nodes to clients they are really good.

    • @jamesmcintosh4664
      @jamesmcintosh4664 3 года назад +1

      Same here we use them too

    • @Wizerd-2024
      @Wizerd-2024 3 года назад

      @@jamesmcintosh4664 they very popular here in South Africa because of the price to performance.

  • @pkt1213
    @pkt1213 3 года назад

    Great video!
    Seems like docking the in the middle right might be the location requiring least amount of movement for any future videos.

  • @kazolar
    @kazolar 3 года назад

    I have esentialy an identical set of components in my rack, UDMP, and both MikroTik POE and 10gb switches, one thing I can say, is I did try to sacrifice 8 ports and get the 8 port unifi 10gb switch, and ended up returning it, as lovely as it is to have it in the unifi controller, it is too buggy, it didn't work properly with half of my 10gb servers, I was running a pair of small MikroTik 5 port (4 SFP) switches ganged together, and moving to the MikroTik16 port switch, everything just works, no weirdness that some unifi hardware tends to have -- they seem to be always in beta.

  • @haakonness
    @haakonness 3 года назад

    When you are assigning vlans, you can click and drag to change multiple checkboxes.

  • @charleshines5700
    @charleshines5700 3 года назад

    You mentioned how loud they can be. In general anything rack mounted can be expected to be really loud. There are rack mounted servers that will give you tinnitus (ringing in the ears) if you spend enough time around them!

    • @csimon2
      @csimon2 3 года назад

      But even to the point of noise, not sure what he’s referring to regarding the Ubiquiti? My 16XG is pretty dang quiet - certainly loads quieter than my servers (Cisco UCS’) and rack-mounted NAS’

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  3 года назад

      A couple people pointed out that a firmware release about a year ago dramatically flattened the fan curve. They're much quieter than they used to be.

  • @emilekenberg3235
    @emilekenberg3235 3 года назад

    Im going to drag my face to the like button :D
    You have very good energy! Great Work!!

  • @RobertRidleyE
    @RobertRidleyE 3 года назад +1

    You should have received the power cords with the CRS 317(I did). I would ask the seller / distributor to send you some or provide some sort of credit/refund.

  • @d00dEEE
    @d00dEEE 3 года назад +2

    If you want to trigger people, one of the Latvian Microtik employees said on their forums that it's pronounced "mee-kro-teek".

  • @johntdavis9196
    @johntdavis9196 3 года назад

    Great video! Perhaps when working with user-interfaces so spread out, you could just have your head float around the screen and bounce off the edges, like an olde thyme screensaver. Really force the viewer to engage with their mind. ;)
    Have you found it still to be effectively silent over the last two months? I've seen some reviews indicating it gets quite loud, but I think that might be specifically when more than 1 or 2 1000BaseT transceivers are installed. I'm considering this or a CRS309 for a 10Gbps backbone for my home/home office LAN, so I'd hopefully be using DAC for everything.

  • @tractorman7733
    @tractorman7733 3 года назад +1

    Im growing my home lab, and Im fairly young. Im using PfSense as my router/firewall and so on.
    Is there any real reasons why you didnt go with PfSense with 10GB networking equipment? Im just curious as I want to make sure that I am making the best decisions.

  • @oso2k
    @oso2k 3 года назад

    I've had issues with SFP+16 being configured as my traffic mirror port. A little surprised that you didn't run into it too.

  • @deiwar2994
    @deiwar2994 3 года назад

    Excellent as usual but the VLAN config was confusing me? Another question was why you didn't choose the Mikrotik CRS312-4C+8XG-RM instead? It seems the same price with better connectivity? Am I wrong about something?

  • @Tom-sdeejay
    @Tom-sdeejay 3 года назад

    Just put you Head in the middel of the screen🤣. What I love to see is if you have a firewall and how to install a firewall to protect your home servers.

  • @jonathanbuzzard6648
    @jonathanbuzzard6648 3 года назад +1

    Personally not having more power cords shoved down my throat that are invariably the wrong length is a very good thing.

  • @D9ID9I
    @D9ID9I 3 года назад

    crs354 has 12 10Gbe ports + 48 gigabit ports. For the same money. Which makes it better bang for the buck.

  • @sagetechnology4913
    @sagetechnology4913 3 года назад

    I think my ideal use case for one of these would be in a lan party, having 4 of the ports going to a QSFP+ nic on a lancache server via a breakout cable, with the others going to CSS326's, which would then be connected to host machines, with the CRS317's gigabit ethernet port going to a router.

  • @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
    @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios 2 года назад

    So all that we need is an additional network card in each connected system, huh?
    That should have been mentioned alongside the "quiet" presence of the rack.

  • @BrianThomas
    @BrianThomas 2 года назад

    I think I'm missing something. You didn't do any testing on the gear. What's the bandwidth limit for the backplane in a real world environment? Does it support copper SPF at 10Gig? If so, which ones work best? Which optical SFP's work best? Which ones are not supported? Is there a second video coming for this review?

  • @MauricioOtta
    @MauricioOtta 3 года назад +1

    You know you can resize the window right? :)
    Great content!!

  • @mph8759
    @mph8759 Год назад

    To be literal “DAC Cable” is not redundant as it is directly attached copper, so adding ‘cable’ is perfectly fine

  • @MatthewHill
    @MatthewHill 3 года назад +1

    DAC Cable is not redundant. DAC stands for Direct Attach Copper.

  • @marty5300
    @marty5300 3 года назад +1

    why not just use the unify aggregation switch? it's only 8 ports, but they're all 10g. Do you just need more ports than 8 or is there some kind of issue you have with the aggregation switch?

    • @RicardoCorrea1983
      @RicardoCorrea1983 3 года назад

      I was looking for this question as well, interested to know what people think of the agg 10G switch.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  3 года назад

      I need more than 8 ports. I have 8 10Gb servers, plus the lines going between 3 switches and my studio.

  • @ierosgr
    @ierosgr 2 года назад

    Is the connection between your UDM and Mikrotik ( At 4.53 the red utp cable (straight through right?) ) that gives internet access to the devices you have connected on the Mikrotik and it's gui as well.

  • @Pabula
    @Pabula 3 года назад

    Any chance of doing PFsense router video series, i feel your homelab is becoming a really nice setup that its outgrowing ubiquity.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  3 года назад

      I've used Ubiquiti in multi-thousand client environments and small business data centers. Trust me, it's just fine for a home network.

  • @korgied
    @korgied 3 года назад

    I would love a 14-port 10Gb + 2-port 25Gb or 40Gb switch. I don't want to buy any of those older Brocade switches that use too much power and need to be unlocked with a license (even if there are people out there who can get those licenses for you). This switch still seems pretty good though. It's not like I need 25/40Gb but, like you said, I always want to upgrade just a bit further. My main server has a ConnectX-3 card (and those are cheap so I could buy more for other machines) so I can already use 40Gb.

  • @metalwolfy82
    @metalwolfy82 3 года назад +3

    why don't you use winbox to manage it? I use it for my mikrotik router and its much better than the web ui.

    • @anthonypolsinelli1179
      @anthonypolsinelli1179 3 года назад

      Switch Os does not support winbox. Routeros which he switched from has way more features (even in a switch) and supports winbox

  • @TedTabaka
    @TedTabaka 3 года назад

    Well done. I am thinking of getting me one of these.

  • @trondmm
    @trondmm 3 года назад

    No power cables, huh? Is that just for the american market, perhaps? I bought three Mikrotik switches (crs328-24p-4s + 2x crs312-4c+8xg) earlier this year, and got two power cables with each. All of them safely resting at the top of the "never used power cables"-pile, of course.

  • @adrianramos5289
    @adrianramos5289 Год назад

    What Router are you using?? I have the nighthawk, but I want to upgrade to a rackable router...Or a L3 switch... Which one do you recommend?? preferably Gigabit+

  • @junialter
    @junialter Год назад

    How often do the fans actually spin up?
    Does it route 10G for v4 as well as v6?
    Some other user wrote it would route line speed. I cannot believe it.

  • @kozygeorg
    @kozygeorg 3 года назад

    No i did not watch the whole video yet, but I can already tell its gonna be a real good one! Also I love MikroTik because of their switches :)

    • @ThomasSmoke
      @ThomasSmoke 3 года назад

      Their switchesare cheap and fast but, unfortunately, managing them is a nightmare. simple things like "interface range ether1-10,13,19-23" and "switchport trunk allowed vlans add 10-20,400,500" are not so easy as on other brands

  • @harmongoodman7432
    @harmongoodman7432 3 года назад

    Any reason why you didn't go with the Unifi USW-Aggregation, besides the fact that it's only 8 ports? It seems very reasonably priced.

  • @asbestinuS
    @asbestinuS 3 года назад +1

    Why did you have to configure the ports for the vlans twice? Makes no sense to me. With HPE switches you just have to "create the vlan" (so that the switch recognizes it) and then define the ports as tagged or untagged.
    Also, does the SwitchOS cost any licensing fees like the RouterOS?

    • @Defiant031636
      @Defiant031636 3 года назад

      Had the same thought, seems redundant unless I'm missing something..

  • @kozygeorg
    @kozygeorg 3 года назад +2

    Also I have a question. Is there a reason you are using a ubiquity router instead of pfsense?

    • @brierepooc8987
      @brierepooc8987 3 года назад

      Cus Ubiguiti is awesome, just their customer service isn't well doesn't exist sometimes lol. I have a USG Pro4 and USG managed 24 port switch. IT simply works.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  3 года назад

      Because it works well enough for all my needs. Sometimes that's the end goal.

    • @kozygeorg
      @kozygeorg 3 года назад

      @@brierepooc8987 Thats a good point, but if one wants to tinker a bit, pfsense has so many more options, rules etc...

    • @MichaelSmith-fg8xh
      @MichaelSmith-fg8xh 3 года назад

      @@CraftComputing ….says the guy with 14 servers

  • @YeOldeTraveller
    @YeOldeTraveller 3 года назад +2

    That looks like a good option once I upgrade my router to support 10 GbE.

  • @elihere1242
    @elihere1242 3 года назад

    Yeah but the UniFi also have 10gbe rj45 ports that this one lacks of and is probably the cause of why is loud an more expensive, so it comes down to the needs of the customer.

  • @bluegizmo1983
    @bluegizmo1983 2 года назад

    Man it's crazy how fast prices can drop. This video was only posted 1 year ago, and now you can buy a used 32 port 100G switch (yes, one hundred gig) for less than $500!

    • @ktube1432
      @ktube1432 2 года назад

      Link please I’m looking 100gig switch.

    • @bluegizmo1983
      @bluegizmo1983 2 года назад

      @@ktube1432 also, not sure how familiar you are with used server equipment, but those DX010 switches will be listed saying either F2B or B2F, which means the airflow of the unit is either Front2Back or Back2Front, so choose accordingly to your needs.

    • @ktube1432
      @ktube1432 2 года назад +1

      Thanks I found some on eBay: Celestica Seastone DX010 32-Port 100G QSFP28 ONIE Switch F2B airflow for $489

  • @ramhee98
    @ramhee98 3 года назад

    I got this switch for roughly 2 years and its a great product but rhe fans can also get quite loud!

  • @jurisembergs9245
    @jurisembergs9245 3 года назад

    Signs on the package of router(right side of package), represents Latvian roots ot company produced this router.

  • @twitchyarby
    @twitchyarby 3 года назад

    I have a US-16-XG in my rack in my office and have never noticed the fan noise.

  • @salat
    @salat 3 года назад

    About having to move the face cam: Simply don't maximize the browser window to full width?

  • @Tobatobu
    @Tobatobu 3 года назад

    I do like these budget switches, but the web portals could use some improvements. I wonder if they will open it up to opensource to allow custom UIS. Currently, they use the same gui for all versions, so options show up even if your equipment doesn't include it. They also make it very easy to lock yourself out. For example, the interfaces page shows all your interfaces, for which, each has a small D located next to it. Now if you get click happy and don't hover over it, that D means disable.

  • @darklocksly3615
    @darklocksly3615 3 года назад

    Cheers, Love the videos as you got the same tech taste.

  • @UntouchedWagons
    @UntouchedWagons 3 года назад +2

    Doesn't DAC stand for Direct Attach Copper?

    • @drunkbear889
      @drunkbear889 3 года назад

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAC, www.fs.com/c/direct-attach-cables-1113

  • @TonyOstrich
    @TonyOstrich 3 года назад +1

    Considering I have an entire column of my organized cables pegboard filled with that power cable, I'd actually be glad they didn't include them with the switch (NOTE: I still think it's complete BS that phone manufacturers are now not including USB C charge adapters).

    •  3 года назад

      The reason maybe BS to you. But it's something little we can to fight e-waste. Most people have collected enough adapters and cables over the years. I can imagine is little sh*tty if you just started with your first phone or other stuff. But you will see after a few years how many cables and stuff you have collected. I have a full box with this stuff up in the attic. Btw you have to blame EU parliament for pressuring companies to do more against e-waste. (apple still hasn't did sh*t though)

    • @markdee3506
      @markdee3506 3 года назад

      Planned obsolescence is the issue, not shipping with a charger. Maybe start shipping PD chargers. I'm sure your box is more full of micro than c.

    •  3 года назад

      @@markdee3506 yes that is true. That is the biggest problem right now. While I don't have a box with lots of type c cables i will in a few years.

    • @AceBoy2099
      @AceBoy2099 2 года назад

      When I need a power brick I have to go buy one, maybe because I don't go out and drop a grand on a new phone every year?!? (Also relate to the loss of micro sd for secondary storage.)

  • @itmkoeln
    @itmkoeln 3 года назад

    Welcome to team Mikrotik 👍

  • @bradley3549
    @bradley3549 3 года назад +1

    7:20 Just resize the window! Sheesh. lol.

  • @JohnSmith-yz7uh
    @JohnSmith-yz7uh 3 года назад

    I would have probably mounted it in the back of the rack if it would have been in a commercial setting as you wouldn't need to run all of the cables front to back, but the choice is yours ;-)

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  3 года назад

      I have a rack with a clear front, I want to see all the blinkenlights!

  • @gtc6523
    @gtc6523 3 года назад

    I have a xg that and i cannot complain about the fan noise and dont hear it at all. given if noise was a complaint you can swap in some noctua 80mm fans.

    • @itmkoeln
      @itmkoeln 3 года назад

      How do you put 80mm fans out in a switch that is 1U in height? Just curious 🤔. 1U is significantly less than 80mm even 40 is at least close... Used to have XGs in my lab and switched to mikrotik last year. Because Afterall I expanded and ended up with 16 SFP+ on my rack

    • @gtc6523
      @gtc6523 3 года назад

      @@itmkoeln you are right thats my bad idk what i was thinking, i actually went and looked and they are 30mm fans but the point still stands that noctua makes replacement fans that you can then swap out if needed. In my case i got my switch on sale for about 500 at the time and when you have other unifi products is nice to use one interface to manage them all. also the unifi xg has 12 sfp+ and 4 ethernet ports that are 10gb so if you have devices that have a 10gb port like my motherboard its 1 less purchase for a sfp+ adapter

  • @rtoledo2
    @rtoledo2 Год назад

    I'm planning on getting the 317. what transceivers have you used that work well ? I cam across this one in amazon that people are buying with the 317 " 1.25/2.5/5/10G SFP+ RJ45 Copper Transceiver, 10GBase-T RJ-45 SFP+ Module, Compatible for Cisco SFP-10G-T-S, Ubiquiti UniFi UF-RJ45-10G, Mikrotik, Fortinet, Netgear, TP-Link (CAT.6a/CAT7, 30m), Ipolex " any opinions on the ipolex ?

  • @PWingert1966
    @PWingert1966 3 года назад

    I have its baby brother the CRS305 to connect my QNAP332X to the rest of my network. I might look at the CRS309 as a next step up or I might jump to this.

  • @tupchurch
    @tupchurch 3 года назад

    I had both of these switches and the unifi x16 maybe has replaced the fans but in my rack its not bad. Both switches gave crap speed and crap support, I got network drops when transferring files between 10g and 1g PCs. Finally I got the x16 switch to work by finding the flow control setting but unifi support was no help at all

  • @leexgx
    @leexgx 3 года назад

    did you plug in the second power cable as only one power light is on

  • @alexsevo6
    @alexsevo6 3 года назад

    unifi is a premium but you get POE and 10G Rj45 and the unified system , stupid not to iinvest in the eco system if you already started .. the gem 2 switch 24 pro is amazing

  • @pablodavidloggia1698
    @pablodavidloggia1698 3 года назад

    hey craft could yo please explain me why proxmox hates switching VLANs? I al least 4 enviroments with proxmox switching VLAN and no issue at all.

  • @VictorEstrada
    @VictorEstrada 3 месяца назад

    The QNAP 100Gb/25Gb switch seems like a better deal