My goodness some of these comments are beyond the pale. Singing is an incredibly exposed, challenging enterprise that draws on the entire soul and body of the performer. Especially Mozart. People who can make unbearably nasty comments about this process are lacking in soul, empathy and, ultimately, knowledge. Probably some very frustrated, nasty and destructive teachers here.
Sadly there are many ‘armchair experts’ who delight in acidic punditry. Strangely they never seem to be able to direct anyone to their own RUclips channels demonstrating examples of their excellence nor can they give references to their recorded medium.
@@russellbaston974 Its refreshing to hear someone point this out. And as a singer myself its so exhausting and draining to read those sorts of responses to all these singers as a whole -it makes the art form feel nastier than it is, and more intimidating than it should. And I can not lie... the female singers really do get a hefty majority of these comments and I do feel like there is a certain sexism to them. A bizarre suggestion that some how we know literally less than nothing about our own artform, our own voices, bodies, and the music we've spent years studying and listening to. There's a strange sense of ownership at times almost, a weird entitlement that extends beyond the natural right to be critical to bashing and one-upmanship and some weird belief that these commentors own the ultimate truth as to who the single greatest or correct performer is and all others are trash --AND WE'RE ALL TOO STUPID to know we're are trash or that the highly trained singer we're listening to is trash despite being singers ourselves. That's it... yeah... that's it. It's their weird suggestion that this highly trained and still-in-training singer, is somehow IGNORANT and stupid with no "true appreciation" of opera. And that the incredibly successful artist teaching them is somehow stupid for not seeing/hearing what they think they should see/hear. Jeez! I almost never comment or respond to comments on these videos because I don't like tipping off these people. But the other day, for instance, I randomly responded to someone's comment that a famous singer's french diction was "dreadful" to say that, we operatically trained singers don't pronounce french the same way as it is spoken, droping tha majority of "N"s for instance. Next thing I got a response from the original commentor instructing me that Carmen is an "opera comique," what that means, and how this singer had failed to infuse it the passion, intimacy etc. Honest to god, i know they'd never have responded with this 101 lesson on one of the most iconic and popularly known operas with the tone of speaking to an ignorant child, if I hadn't made the mistake of using the word "we" -thus giving away the idea that I might be a singer. What the heck their response to me had to do with anything I'd said, is beyond me. They'd criticized her diction, I responded about diction. Saying nothing about anything other than diction, they leaped to some presumption I was ignorant as to the most basic aspects of one of the most universally well known operas and in dire need of correction when I'd not demonstrates any lack of this knowledge. Didn't even respond to the diction comment, apparently had no response to that. So just needed an opportunity to put me in my place. Dumb thing was, I'd not even delivered any opinion on the singer's performance, period. Not sure what they thoughtvthey were combating! 😂 Just amazes me sometimes.
When she fell forward, I said, "How in the world can she do that?" I just met Amalia & Joyce on RUclips yesterday, on another video singing this "Porgi Amor", & another video singing Verdi's "Candone del Salice"; so, today I'm back for more. Today I get: voice, piano, teacher, student, fashion & drama, . . What! This is a better fit for me than American Idol & The Voice combined, probably because it's more cerebral & intellectually stimulating. I just love it! Great work ladies & gentlemen!
This is wonderful. Especially they need to perform on stage and interact with other singers and that surrender exercise is gem. Keeping relaxed and interacting and expressing.
People judging this exercise or Joyce methods don't know anything about singing! If you are a singer and you don't understand this, or simply can't do it. You are not there yet! But don't give up!!!
I agree with you. I am a classical soprano and also sing coloratura. I am trying to develop my opera side of singing, and discovered Joyce a short time ago (I am ashamed!). But I feel the little I have seen is prompting to push myself further and I have subscribed - pressing the "all" bell button, because I don't want to miss anything!
These "student" are in their twenties when they should already be in midst of their careers and that's because the entire conservatory system is about 5 -6 years behind. Students need to start in early teens and not late teens a career in music or opera. I happened to see Renee Fleming in Barber of Seville late in her career but she could have easily sung same role in her teens.
She's basically using a distraction technique to free up the voice. A little bit theatrical for my taste. I'd get the air moving faster (the air always needs to move faster in the lower and upper bands beyond our middle 'comfort' zone). It's essentially a mental process. She also needs to stop listening to herself - she's getting on her own way. By the time you can hear yourself the sound's already gone 3 times round the room - leave it out there. Focus on speaking at pitch: that's all you can do. Just a view which, of course, doesn't make me right.
I couldn’t understand the teacher at all. These master classes might be taught by “master” singers, but they aren’t “master” teachers. This might be an unpopular and radical opinion, but as a teaching student myself, I definitely think any singer who is asked to teach a master class should have to have a teaching credential in order to be eligible. Different styles of pedagogy, transfer, schema, and basic educational psychology are something these opera singers don’t seem to have.
Non servono a niente tutte queste Movenze Per far sì che la ragazza si rilassi se non apre le risonanze giuste e non appoggia e sostiene nel modo corretto. Sarebbe meglio e più opportuno che le dicesse come fare, invece di farle fare delle inutili acrobazie
I wonder how she got selected for a masterclass like this in the first place. Not for her voice qualities at least. She just needs so much work to find her own voice
Such comment sections are always full with world-class singers who certainly know it better it seems. I wonder if its jealousy, internalized frustration with oneself or the much-mentioned and sadly sometimes true stereotype of widespread narcissism among singers. Maybe a combination of those things. Whatever it is, I really find it really depressing that some bitter people just can't help themselves and resort to insulting masterclass students on RUclips, compensating for something lacking in their own life. I can't explain it myself any other way how people get so bitter, mean and unempathic. Really sad to see that over and over again.
I love Didonato as a singer. As an interpreter. The student's mistakes are obvious. That would be a nice job to solve the problems. These are technical. And you can give very specific help. Gymnastics and dance exercises definitely do not help. Didonato fails completely. It's wasted time.
Some people need to understand that masterclasses are not a place to work on technique specifics. You have a professor/teacher for that. Masterclasses are there to teach/give pointers to things the average teacher can't teach. Some things you can learn from everyone and some things you can only learn from specific person X because they may have a level of career to look back on that the average teacher does not. And that's the whole point of masterclasses.
That surrender exercise made all the difference.... I was just amazed!!!!
What do we learn? - That' honest' music comes from the right position of body and soul. What a teacher!
That pianist can be a movie star
mradoniszhao I like him 🥰
Mmhmm so charming~
He looks like he was teleported from an action movie
This reminds of the book A Soprano on Her Head. Learning to let go of doubt and fear is far more difficult than learning actual vocal technique!
My goodness some of these comments are beyond the pale. Singing is an incredibly exposed, challenging enterprise that draws on the entire soul and body of the performer. Especially Mozart. People who can make unbearably nasty comments about this process are lacking in soul, empathy and, ultimately, knowledge. Probably some very frustrated, nasty and destructive teachers here.
Sadly there are many ‘armchair experts’ who delight in acidic punditry. Strangely they never seem to be able to direct anyone to their own RUclips channels demonstrating examples of their excellence nor can they give references to their recorded medium.
@@russellbaston974
Its refreshing to hear someone point this out. And as a singer myself its so exhausting and draining to read those sorts of responses to all these singers as a whole -it makes the art form feel nastier than it is, and more intimidating than it should. And I can not lie... the female singers really do get a hefty majority of these comments and I do feel like there is a certain sexism to them. A bizarre suggestion that some how we know literally less than nothing about our own artform, our own voices, bodies, and the music we've spent years studying and listening to. There's a strange sense of ownership at times almost, a weird entitlement that extends beyond the natural right to be critical to bashing and one-upmanship and some weird belief that these commentors own the ultimate truth as to who the single greatest or correct performer is and all others are trash --AND WE'RE ALL TOO STUPID to know we're are trash or that the highly trained singer we're listening to is trash despite being singers ourselves.
That's it... yeah... that's it. It's their weird suggestion that this highly trained and still-in-training singer, is somehow IGNORANT and stupid with no "true appreciation" of opera. And that the incredibly successful artist teaching them is somehow stupid for not seeing/hearing what they think they should see/hear. Jeez!
I almost never comment or respond to comments on these videos because I don't like tipping off these people. But the other day, for instance, I randomly responded to someone's comment that a famous singer's french diction was "dreadful" to say that, we operatically trained singers don't pronounce french the same way as it is spoken, droping tha majority of "N"s for instance. Next thing I got a response from the original commentor instructing me that Carmen is an "opera comique," what that means, and how this singer had failed to infuse it the passion, intimacy etc.
Honest to god, i know they'd never have responded with this 101 lesson on one of the most iconic and popularly known operas with the tone of speaking to an ignorant child, if I hadn't made the mistake of using the word "we" -thus giving away the idea that I might be a singer. What the heck their response to me had to do with anything I'd said, is beyond me. They'd criticized her diction, I responded about diction. Saying nothing about anything other than diction, they leaped to some presumption I was ignorant as to the most basic aspects of one of the most universally well known operas and in dire need of correction when I'd not demonstrates any lack of this knowledge. Didn't even respond to the diction comment, apparently had no response to that. So just needed an opportunity to put me in my place. Dumb thing was, I'd not even delivered any opinion on the singer's performance, period. Not sure what they thoughtvthey were combating! 😂
Just amazes me sometimes.
When she fell forward, I said, "How in the world can she do that?" I just met Amalia & Joyce on RUclips yesterday, on another video singing this "Porgi Amor", & another video singing Verdi's "Candone del Salice"; so, today I'm back for more. Today I get: voice, piano, teacher, student, fashion & drama, . . What! This is a better fit for me than American Idol & The Voice combined, probably because it's more cerebral & intellectually stimulating. I just love it! Great work ladies & gentlemen!
Right?! I didn't that was physically possible lol
I love this. I always appreciate reminders to let go of blocks, relax, and spin the sound. The visual I get is leaves dancing in the wind.
This is wonderful. Especially they need to perform on stage and interact with other singers and that surrender exercise is gem. Keeping relaxed and interacting and expressing.
People judging this exercise or Joyce methods don't know anything about singing! If you are a singer and you don't understand this, or simply can't do it. You are not there yet! But don't give up!!!
Good comment
I agree with you. I am a classical soprano and also sing coloratura. I am trying to develop my opera side of singing, and discovered Joyce a short time ago (I am ashamed!). But I feel the little I have seen is prompting to push myself further and I have subscribed - pressing the "all" bell button, because I don't want to miss anything!
@@dianeshepherdlyricsoprano1394 best wishes to you darling
@@MaggieGueder Thank you so very much. You are really kind. All the best to you too xx
Not really as these aren't exercises nor methods that are firmly routed in the Bel Canto tradition.
Wow, Joyce is an amazing teacher!
She is not..
@@violetta47 you're not
Fantastic exercise!!!
LOVE THIS. Joyce is amazing!
brava maestra...
Quero colocar essa musa num potinho e tê-la somente pra mim! Que mulher maravilhosa!!!
Wow!!!
Sometimes you need to surrender to the emotion and not fight with it
Bueno, lo mejorcito aquí en todo sentido es el pianista :-)))
Pretty voice and nice assistants lol
Ho sentito registrazioni di qualche anno dopo ed è uguale
저도 레슨 받고싶어요
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
These "student" are in their twenties when they should already be in midst of their careers and that's because the entire conservatory system is about 5 -6 years behind. Students need to start in early teens and not late teens a career in music or opera. I happened to see Renee Fleming in Barber of Seville late in her career but she could have easily sung same role in her teens.
She needs to simplify her sound. This is Mozart, not Verdi.
She's basically using a distraction technique to free up the voice. A little bit theatrical for my taste. I'd get the air moving faster (the air always needs to move faster in the lower and upper bands beyond our middle 'comfort' zone). It's essentially a mental process. She also needs to stop listening to herself - she's getting on her own way. By the time you can hear yourself the sound's already gone 3 times round the room - leave it out there. Focus on speaking at pitch: that's all you can do. Just a view which, of course, doesn't make me right.
Agree 100%
La voce è tutta trattenuta lì dentro e quasi ingolata. Peccato perché il timbro è molto bello😔
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Lol.....Whats...🤣🤣🤣🤣
I couldn’t understand the teacher at all. These master classes might be taught by “master” singers, but they aren’t “master” teachers. This might be an unpopular and radical opinion, but as a teaching student myself, I definitely think any singer who is asked to teach a master class should have to have a teaching credential in order to be eligible. Different styles of pedagogy, transfer, schema, and basic educational psychology are something these opera singers don’t seem to have.
듣는 사람이 답답하다.
그냥 몸에 힘을 빼라는 듯
she needs to practice with a metronome and sing on the beat, also not search for the jumps using glissando, practice more direct jumps
Non servono a niente tutte queste Movenze Per far sì che la ragazza si rilassi se non apre le risonanze giuste e non appoggia e sostiene nel modo corretto. Sarebbe meglio e più opportuno che le dicesse come fare, invece di farle fare delle inutili acrobazie
The vibrato is really too much...
The question is why.
You’re too much
anche no, dai
This is horrible.
Ridiculous!!! What circus is that? DiDonato teaches And What she teaches?
I don’t like it.. much..
Messy fake soprano with a minimal voice.
Someone is jealous!
And you are?
I wonder how she got selected for a masterclass like this in the first place. Not for her voice qualities at least. She just needs so much work to find her own voice
Such comment sections are always full with world-class singers who certainly know it better it seems. I wonder if its jealousy, internalized frustration with oneself or the much-mentioned and sadly sometimes true stereotype of widespread narcissism among singers. Maybe a combination of those things. Whatever it is, I really find it really depressing that some bitter people just can't help themselves and resort to insulting masterclass students on RUclips, compensating for something lacking in their own life. I can't explain it myself any other way how people get so bitter, mean and unempathic. Really sad to see that over and over again.
People will not likr your comment, but you are right. This lady should be singing Susanna and not the Contessa. But the pianist is nice to see :-)
I love Didonato as a singer.
As an interpreter.
The student's mistakes are obvious. That would be a nice job to solve the problems. These are technical. And you can give very specific help.
Gymnastics and dance exercises definitely do not help. Didonato fails completely. It's wasted time.
Some people need to understand that masterclasses are not a place to work on technique specifics. You have a professor/teacher for that. Masterclasses are there to teach/give pointers to things the average teacher can't teach. Some things you can learn from everyone and some things you can only learn from specific person X because they may have a level of career to look back on that the average teacher does not. And that's the whole point of masterclasses.