Joe Budden EXPOSES Drake For Not Evolving?
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- Joe Budden EXPOSES Drake For Not Evolving? #joebudden #drake #curtissking 🔴 SUBSCRIBE TO CURTISSKINGTV: bit.ly/subcktv
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Controversy around Drake's new album.
00:02:03 - The Evolution of Drake's Production
00:03:57 - Drake's Uncharted Territory
00:05:55 - Drake's Cultural Appropriation?
00:07:50 - Embracing the Youth Vs. Disrespecting The OGs
00:09:45 - Drake's Response To Joe Budden
00:11:52 - Drake's Vulnerability and Honesty
00:12:34 - Best Buy Microphone Diss
00:12:46 - Proof Drake Is DIE HARD Joe Budden FAN
00:14:17 - Drake Rapping Like Joe Budden
00:15:53 - Drake's Cultural Identity
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This Album should have been called "Nothing Was Different"
I listened to the Drake and Cole song over and over with the lyrics on and it's amazing to me that he didn't go back and rewrite his verse. You literally allowed Cole to body you on your own song. It's almost like....he didn't bother to listen to Coles verse at all
Yall were on point with the father/ son dynamic between Joe and Drake. Joe is disappointed in how his protege is devolving and Drake is disappointed in his mentor for quitting.
No, Joe quit because the business part was fucked up. Now he's in control of his business as an independent podcaster.
Dis should be a anime
please don't compare an artist during the streaming age to artists who blew during a time when you had to go out and buy a cd. i wish ppl would stop that nonsense.
Drake was around when cds were around.
That's why I appreciate artists like Kendrick, The Weeknd and Tyler cuz whatever they put out sounds sooooo refreshing. Atp, Drake's a content creator
Drake is almost 40 wearing nail polish, colorful barettes in his hair and hanging with 20 year olds. Imagine Jay Z, Nas or even Kendrick doing this.
💯🎯
Drake been this way 😭but he makes slaps🔥🔥
@@Dipset415I never seen an artist get so many passes. You people make any excuse for this guys foolish acts. People are literally giving up on hiphop because of this album. It’s sad
@@crawlinginfaithbdalingo5515 glorious game-black thought🔥that’s the type of time I be on my G. I throw on the drake when females around😭
His appearance is not the problem, it's his actions.
People don't accept that there's a difference between music and entertainment.
Aubrey did evolve. He's a popstar who paints his nails 🤣💀
6:06 - 🤣🤣🤣 Drake do have a new accent every 5 years lol
One thing Ive learned to do is not lie to myself and to accept ppl as they are and not how I want to be (or what I THINK they should be).
We’re expecting him to follow the Jay Z /Nas role of growth but he ain’t there yet. He is REALLY the old man in the club… but a popular old man. We all have to just wait and see what happens because truuuuust me, he really gives 2 shots about what anyone thinks.i
Fun fact: Check is spelled as Cheque in every country except the U.S. So Drake , being Canadian, was actually spelling it right 😀
I think where Drake went wrong was giving his album that title and it sounded more like "For All The Ladies". There was way too much singing for it to have been for the dogs. The dogs are the ones saying they miss the old Drake. The dogs are the ones who want him to REALLY get into his rapping bag. Then there were a couple songs that sounded like filler. The Rich Baby Daddy song is just him trying TOO hard to appeal to the young generation. Like...Sexyy Red????? REALLY???!
He can’t name the album for all the bitches which we know that’s his main demographic, so he killed two birds with 1 stone , naming it for all the dogs will make the fellas go out n buy it expecting he would show luv to His male audience but again it’s a Drake album so it’s catering to the ladies … whats a female dog name????? U can’t market that name being a Male
True Drake fans who grew up with Drake in the early 2010’s , 100% agree with Joe and had the same thoughts about Drake since CLB
I gave up on this dude a long time ago probably views. He isn’t rapping about ANYTHING. But is is considered the top of the rap game. When I’m hearing other artist I. His class. Kendrick, Cole, Krit , Russ, nip(when he was alive) big Sean, Joey badass . They all are still stopping music with substance still
I realized like 5 albums ago that Drake would never make a masterpiece album. You could argue that he has classics(still questionable), but I refuse to take anyone seriously who thinks he’s made a MASTERPIECE. He’s just not capable. He has access to everything he would need to create one, but he simply can’t.
I think that’s not him. Maybe he’s to shallow as a person especially now to make a masterpiece. And i don’t think the ghost writer helps. And everybody that I know who’s been in his position. From Wayne, jay z, nas, Cole, Kendrick, ll cool j ect have all made at least one album that is a masterpiece
@@t-god2439 Take Care, iYRTITL, NWTS, Views, So Far Gone are masterpieces maybe throw in TML.
Drake may not grow in his material. But he does grow his sound, which is the reason why he's been around this long. People look to Drake for hits and good music. The album was subpar by Drake's standards.
He just takes other artists sounds and popularizes it. That’s not really evolving.
@@og_mante5138💯😭
@@og_mante5138exactly it seems like more people are starting to wake up to his bs
He hasn't.grown his.sound since.2015 lmao. He hasn't evolve ever since, he only adapts to.the Freshest sounds of a certain period, rides with it. That's why I appreciate artists like Kendrick, The Weeknd and Tyler cuz whatever they put out sounds sooooo refreshing. Atp, Drake's a content creator
@@arseeoliveira6934facts
You both was spot on and it was refreshing to hear someone say an unbias opinion. Drake is dope but him chasing the youth audience or whatever is popular is weird and makes us OGs 2nd guess his intention this whole time. Is drake really from this culture?
@@MountyCrizto true
He was never part of the culture.
The only culture that nigga is from (I say this as someone who likes some of his songs)...is money
a fair and intelligent assessment. entertaining too! the best i’ve heard (and i’ve watched MANY videos on this topic). enjoyed it very much. thank you.✨
Nas is the artist who evolved and still dope. Steadily putting out albums.
Exactly
True, but every artist have some time in their career when it’s lack luster I.E. Oochi Wally & You Owe Me
@@Tenchi-fi5gb those were pop hits like most of drake catalog and came early in his career. The ladies love those songs. I just watched them go crazy over them in concert a few weeks ago. Dudes not so much.
@@mostmost1 that was not in the early of Wayne’s career it was nearly at his peak. And does it matter? Wasn’t only woman listening to LL after 2001? It’s plenty people who can rap but can’t sell. & I know people like to stand on what does it matter if a person can sell or not…but if you don’t sell than your hardly getting the green light to put out projects, or have the financial resources to keep you to create songs
@@Tenchi-fi5gb Wayne? I'm talking Nas not Wayne. Those two songs you listed were in the 90s or early 2000s. It's 2023! They were not mediocre to many people just pop songs surrounded by hardcore raps. Nothing hardcore about Drake. His first albums was the most rapping he did.
This was a good video bro. The research yall did...whew! Salute fam 💯
I like that idea that Budden critics Drake albums like it's his son's album.
Joe Budden could have delivered his take better, but he is right. Drake has been trend-hopping and has had the same kind of lyrics, childlike, toxic relationships, women, etc for the past 4 albums. At some point, people aren't going to care anymore. Drake needs to make a personal, mature, and transparent album, an album that people can relate to with longevity.
Once y’all pulled out the video receipts I knew it was over 😂 had my popcorn out like MJ in the thriller video
😂😂😂 I can just imagine you doing this 😂😂😂
the image of Michael with his eyes WIDE open and his perfect HUGE smile is VIVID in my mind right now. thanks for bringing it (back) there 😄🖤✨
If your not a dj who works venues, clubs, or radio or a consumer of more than 8 genres of music, then your limited critique of f music DOES NOT matter👍
The funniest clap back was from Parks when he posted his name in the credits of the album 😂
I get Joe’s plight from a fan’s perspective, and I can agree. I would LOVE to hear some evolution from Drake as this point in his career, but never would I expect anything from any artist. The essence of being an artist is the liberty you have creatively. If Drake wants to continue down the path he’s on, more power to him. You can’t please everybody anyway.
Snoop did it and the Jamaicans called him out on it
J Cole is the new Hov, Kendrick is the new Nas and Drake is the new 50
Nope this is a fallacy….NaS is exceptional, one of a kind and in his own lane. Man dropped 6 original albums in 3 years, 1xGrammy win. Nas still hasn't peaked musically. Nice try bruh.. Try again
@@Kuno331nah hasn't peaked?? 😂 You're a stan
Drake is an artist now not a rapper, we have to accept the fact that he is a cog to the machine now.
Wtf the excuses people make. Missy Elliot was/is an artist, nas is an artist, ludicrous is an artist , j Cole is an artist let’s stop trying to excuse the bs that was his dude has been dropping
Drake is more of a popstar than a actual rapper at this point. He is labeled a rapper on paper but he got ghostwriters and he brings in popstar numbers so to expect him to have Joe expect him be a rapper again when he is not even defined as a rapper amongst other rappers doesn't all the way make sense.
Comparing Drake bot boosted streams to Beatles and MJ real projects sold is low vibrational
Theres a commercial every minute. I would like to finish the video but i gotta keep skipping commercials
Drake is making songs. He switched his style up to watch the money pile up. Thats it.
That doesn't mean it's entertaining 💯
Jayz did the same thing to an extent. “Dumb down to double my dollars” and still was making better music than drake this dude needs to just stop making music
@@SirDijeh1025 yes that is very telling imo the way he clapped back at joe like he hat considering he didn’t even try to diss joe back when joe was dissing him
Is your bottom-line making money or making art ?
That's the difference. Look how Drake responded, bragging about his wealth
Wtf is Joe Budden 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
These people playing. That album hard
Hometown Buffet and sampling culture, yoooooooo lol
Drake is either doing what is best for himself and his career. The major problem is that people want others to follow a mold. Jay-z represents the mold. Drake do as he pleases. Interesting enough, they are both succeeding.
Drake need to bite J. Cole and do a "I let Budden down" track.
I think Drake was hurt when he wrote that tweet
Drake IS evolving & that is everybody’s issue… They want the Old Drake back and we will never get that
Nah, he's been devolving and that's most people's issue. 💯🕵🏽♂️
@@PotentDaRockStar agree . This album shows a lack of creativity
you call that evolving?? lol. Learn.the difference between evolving and adapting
Actually people want a new Drake. This old one has gotten stale for some. It's also unwise to change or mature in hip-hop. Only a handful have succeeded at that and stayed popular. Em, Hov and who???? It's better Drake stays as is😂
Drake needs to make music for his OG fans and mature up cause we older now. Drake OG fans are at least like 26 and up. Also. You gotta wonder is this really the type of music that he wants to make fr fr
Just because a retired rapper said it doesn't make it right
UK drill Drake… let’s do it 👍🏾
Nothing to expose. Drake has the right to make the music he wants to make
This was a very non bias discuss of Drake. Respect
Just off the rip, Drake has no identity. He’s a chameleon, he’s a surf boarder. Just looking for the next wave. If his influence is as strong as we think it isas, he should be about to drop mature content and his fans will still gravitate to it. I just feel he’s hit a ceiling and we need to stop expecting him to be great. The album is mid. It’s not cohesive. Just another playlist.
guys. Drake knows what he is doing.
You don’t have to do what’s hot when you’re already hot. He can do songs with any artist, and the project won’t suffer. Look, when Hip-Hop was conscious and wearing African clothes, so was everybody else; when the West Coast was popping, everybody rapped like they were from Compton. “WE” as in Hip-Hop determine what's hot. These young kids got it twisted like you have to follow.
Hes compared to MJ ans the beetles because of charts…not artistically. I think record labels made us care soo much about record sales that people feel like we need to care about it. We not seeing a dollar of it, thats for the label. All we should be caring about is the music and the authenticity of it.
The funniest shit to me is like, Joe budden or anyone for that matter taking shit about drake for taking peoples flows, those better be the same people hating on kobe for stealing Jordan’s moves. What y’all fail to realize is that drake is a stand alone artist BECAUSE of that! He picked the parts of hot artists game that made them hot and added them to his bag. But like 50 said, if they hate then let ‘em hate and watch the money pile up.
Drake wants to be Peter Pan so bad lol
Drake has always Shang sung other rappers styles and influence. He lacks innovation and at this point I’d much rather see drake in a film rather than a album because he’s put out so much music biting influence and streaming crazy everywhere that now he’s just saturated. Like nobody appreciates at a drake verse because we know he’s just gonna sound like the dude he’s featuring. Not only that but it’s probably the millionth record he’s released at this point despite the exaggeration. Once he released scorpion I feel like that was the end of him really trying to make substantial music.
When future drop joints that is mature n adult topic better than drake. We are in a different timeline
You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain
A lot of hate , I didn’t hear any flowers being given
thats why when i do production with the young youth today i dont touch thire work or change thire idea' or influance or get in thire way and i dont want them in my way wile i work my way ,un less they ask me for my input thats why i dont listion to him or any of his work he keeps his hands in everybodys cookie jar if its not his way it the high way that is under his age
this album, he's "Tavon Moore Drake"
* dont shoot the messenger *
he's frustrated at (Tavon Moore)
This is a funny topic cause I felt this way about Wayne. When has Wayne grew up? When he dropped lollipop, that was the most mature song we heard from the “best rapper alive”? I think it’s just better to say a person doesn’t like an artist. Smokey Robinson just dropped an album called “GASM” he could be singing about family man things but he’s not so what are we rally talking about?
This clip made me realize just how much Joe influenced him. Its crazy lol
Drake is trying to reach the largest drmargraphic so if he got to create childish nonsense he'll do it the formula for him is the youth not real hip hop headz that ship has sailed
I agree
@@Smerzone big factz
I agree to a point. Because honestly growing up I was hearing “Power (Kanye), Run This Town, Public Service Announcement, etc.” everywhere, in movies, video games, tv shows and those songs definitely aren’t meant directly for kids but every one of us heard em. The thing about music is, even when adults have songs kids still hear it and like it and grow up with it as well. We all know Crank Dat, but I would be lying if I said I’ve listened to that one song more than I have let’s say a album like NWTS. So it also goes to show as you get older, you’ll enjoy the things from your childhood that were more for you as a kid but you’ll probably keep coming back consistently to the things that were more for “adults” as you get older.
@@v9productionshonestly Drake then verses Drake now he is chasing number ones he broke The Beatles record now I think he is close or broke Micheal Jackson's record for the most number ones so Rapping doesn't seem to be the focus
i agree with joe buttons for real
Okay Mr. Keep It Simple
middle child...
The criticism is weird
Drake devolved on purpose.
Leverage …. Keyword
Man then two dudes is confused. He is talking to Joe Budden who screams about his accomplished career and how dope he is. But if he feels some kind of way then make music and compete
Drake Tha Goat 🐐
I knew that was gonna happen. And I had a Drake fan on RUclips tell me that it wasn’t gonna happen
They said the same thing about elvis Presley they said he was a culture vulture so from were I'm standing he doing everything right
Statistics is CAP - in todays society Drake comes nowhere near the Micheal Jackson - even in terms of stardom. At no point in history as far as I can remember (born in 1991) did people question or become tired of MJs music to this extent - IT NEVER HAPPENED. But it's happening with Drake because his music doesn't carry as much weight as MJ.
That said - I think ppl are giving Drake wayy to much heat for something he was never meant to do. Drake is a PERFORMANCE artist first - he's like Shang Tsung, he can transform into anybody and potray any style almost to perfection (pop, hip hop, gangster trap). He's a reflection a many different musical perspectives in culture - plus everynow and then he delivers solid bars.
The flaws of that artistical approach is that the artist can become lost of what their true purpose is, this is why he thinks he's competing with MJ numbers and ect.. most of his music sounds like he's trying to prove something. I believe Drake himself doesn't even know where to settle yet.
Kendrick and Cole have found their stride and they've truly transcended Drake at this point - so comparison just isn't fair.
Sorry but any "bridge" that Drake(or Ye) lays will not be frequented by me....EVER! .....ya'll can have that! LOL!
Jay was 39 when he had Drake Cudi and Cole on Blueprint 3. What's the difference? Also Drake like Jay z uses sounds before it reaches its peaked.
Drake, Cudi and Cole are in a different stratosphere than Yeat, Lil Yachty and Sexy Red
@@og_mante5138you’re drunk
@og_mante5138 Drake Cole and Cudi were 22 23 and maybe 24 at that time. Yachty is like 26.
@@durrellodom592 Listen to the music they made then and compare the content to Sexy Red, Yeat and Yachty. Not even close.
@og_mante5138 Drake before Started From The Bottom was wack, and Cudi, Cole, Yeat, Sexy Redd, and Yachty make wack music then and still wack music today. And Blueprint 3 wasn't that good either way, just like FATDs.
i don't think anyone from the UK thinks Drake on drill makes it sound better, but i might be wrong
come to find out there’s a lot of actors who rap interesting to realize this
Drake has no excuses for not growing when you have people like Nas who makes grown man records and the albums with Hit are good and he sounds his age. J Cole and Kendrick have grown and are still respected so im not buying that Drake just stays in his lane and hes the greatest
As a fan of the music you never get your hopes up with a young money artist.
I would compare Drake to Eminem instead Jay Z actually. Eminem is the only rapper who has sold more than Drake. I mean if you were talking sales then that’s the right comparison
I'm a drake fan but honestly I been tired of his music after Take Care dropped
yep, keep it simple
To say Drake enhanced drill music is blasphemous😂😂.
0:01 drake has an evolved but one time and that’s when he started right after replacement girl
How made it public. You can't dictate how a man responds to your open opinion of them. You put shit out there you're begging to attract the flies
I do not agree with the people y'all comparing Drake to I don't feel he's in the category with J Cole Kanye West Nora Jay Z my thing is to me he's more of a category like a little Wayne or T-Pain pop artists that raps when it comes to Talent that's my opinion because I feel like people try to make people lyricists and they are not in the box or in the same category people like Method Man biggie Nas Scarface Ice Cube Tupac I just hate when people compare certain people with certain people Jay-Z has done songs with Drake I rather listen to Drake when he's featured versus his album I love Aston Martin I feel like he had one of the hottest verses on this song to me is one of his hardest verses Michael Jackson no Tupac no just saying stop comparing people that's not in that category nobody mentions Bill Russell but it says LeBron is the best how you don't mention Kobe before LeBron not because he died but because of Kobe Bryant's success he got his last championship with Shaquille O'Neal just saying stop putting people in certain categories that don't go I know you get my drill
12:59 them receipts were serious. 🤦🏾♂️😂 After listening to the album you can tell that the music is old rehashed repurposed music. He just added features and a few tweaks here and there and dropped it. Ultimately this is Drake’s weakest album. I think he knows that which is why he’s so defensive of it, and those of us that listen to music we can all tell. His next project is probably gonna be crazy because of this though.
The man is havin a mid-life crisis
Switch which side y'all are on. It's disorienting, especially for new people
Drake is right Joe has never made it as a rapper he truly doesn't know what works in music and spent years trying to take him down
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I don't like drake, but I will rock it in spite of Joe. 🤷🏽☠️💯
Unpopular opinion: Drake is dried up. He hasn’t had a compelling title since Views.
Joe Budden is the last to talk about evolving. Hell NY didn’t start to evolve until Troy ave and Bobby shmurda and nem. Joey badazz dope but def doesn’t sound evolved sounds era stuck
That doesn’t mean his criticism isn’t valid.
@@og_mante5138 it most certainly does not you’re right and I agree. I feel like he’s in the same boat. Calling out someone who’s in the same boat neither one has evolved
@@Lil918Studios3BHtbh bro u kinda have a valid point 😂 joe definitely the pot calling the kettle black
Troy Ave is trash bro. You're argument is no longer valid
Did the south evolve? The sounds been the same since the late 2000s early 2010s
Drake did not sound better then the UK drill artist, yall sound foolish lol
Its been all downhill since 2015.
NWTS & IYRTITL were his peaks.. after that nuthin but half ass efforts. the album with 21 could have been on that level but it fell short.. Joe aint wrong.. this album is terrible
lets keep it real, he disk the whole podcast sytem mainly best buy not good
All this is some boolshiit does he have some his on the album
DMX Rip never like Drake for reason
Bruh
Man, Drake just can't win. He been getting pooped on since he came in the game. No matter what he does we say its soft, weak, wrong, young. lol let that man breathe!.
Poor Drake. How will the world keep spinning with drake being bullied?
If you looking for a pastor go to church.
When y’all have Drake’s track record and hits then I will listen to what you have to say. But until then your just hating.
Everyone has a different view regarding how someone has shifted in this space. I feel like Drake did a good job adjusting, molding & adapting to hiphop. I can honestly say Drake & Gunna was the ones I disliked listening to on the track with YMCMB some time ago & today I can tolerate & actually enjoy their music. So in my eyes they have evolved into something I can enjoy.
I can understand this defense mode that happened, he's hurt. When a fan gets disrespected by their idol things change. Always happens that way. At the same time, I can't say there wasn't a point in time that I didn't like music if wasn't rappady rap boom bap. However times have changed, and some people like Joe. Just doesn't like change lol He want's him to devolve and go back to what he failed to do. Bars heavy, head knocking only section. As time go, people do changed into what they themselves is the better version of them. Not what you think is better for them. 🤟🏽🥶