I think you need both: you need sound nerds to search for combinations of amps, cabs and mic placement. Once you find good matches, you synthesize them into small practical units for ease of use. Some players want to go deep, some other want to focus on making music and trust their gear is well designed. Both approaches are valid, and complementary even.
Probably one of, if not the best way to break that down. Well said. I got my cousin HEAVILY into Rammstein in '14 with Sonne, the riff in particular, and we would talk about and analyze their whole catalog. His friend said to him that Rammstein's guitars all sound very simple. They're also universally known by Rammstein haters but of the same genre, for being "simple and basic" musically. But my cousin and I feel that their genius lies in the simplicity of their music. They know what sounds good to the ears. Alot of basic riffs. But what other non English industrial metal/Deutsche Hart type band could consistently sell out shows in places like Japan, France, South Africa I believe, and quite a few other ideal places you would think they couldn't sell out a show. And obv not a group that is of the language of said country. And it's not just because of their kick ass shows. For them to sell out 20,000 seats in Tokyo and seeing thousands of Japanese, who don't speak German at ALL, are just LOVING it. Although I learned German as a Canadian with German heritage for Rammstein, you don't have to know what they're saying to love it. It's a feeling they give you when you hear their sound. I apologise for lengthy comment, but when I read yours, it was very insightful and basically matched how I view it.
Yeah. From using a reftifier and just knowing what I know from building this rig to get the fine tuning on it for my preferred big sound for recording has only now made me confident I could do the same with like an AxFx type of unit. Before setting up my rig to how I want it to sound I feel I would be lost with an Axfx or digital type of unit.
IMO I'd get Paul's multi-effect pedal, it's small and portable, instant Rammstein tones at your disposal, whereas Richard's rig is more expensive, he uses Rectifiers and a more complex rig than Paul, Paul was always more of a simplicity guitar player because he's always on Rhythm duty, while Richard is the one on both Rhythm and lead duty.
It's kinda like that Punk attitude that every metal band should need. Of course, better tones is really awesome, but if you can have something that is both cheap and looks cool, then why not? I personally think that a mixture of both is good, that's why I love Rammstein so much.
Richard did actually let native instruments make Rammfire a plugin for guitar rig and its pretty badass, i'd like to pick up pauls pedal too but its expensive in comparison.
@@BrandonPrive1432 Rammfire is also a good option, pair it with a good guitar interface and a good laptop and you will have quick access to Richard's tone
Yes and no, the distortion isn't what it it is on for example Zick Zack. I have the Pedal, it's kinda a waste of money. Would rather not even buy any of those amps. I use Bogren Digital AmpKnob and NeuralDSP Fortin Nameless Suite at the moment and those sound amazing, it just needs a bit of EQ and it'll sound good! Getting identical Rammstein tones if impossible unless you have literally everything the same, same plectrum, same guitar, same strings (trust me those sound different), same interface, same amp etc. etc. So just do whatever tone you like, no need to get so many details.
You don't need a thousand and one peddles when you're going live. But if you want the actual album to sound right, and have a passion for it, going into incredible detail is a great choice
Everyone says that, but it gets addicting to tinker around with effects, plugings and amps. I've lost myself for hours tweaking settings in a multieffect. Richard is what you get when you have millions to fund this addiction.
Paul: It's very tiny :) Richard: Robots moving mics around! I have to say I like both approaches to "soundchasing" but as a guitarist on the budget best I can do is my Helix LT into PA/poweramp. Pauls gear is way more accessible and one can only dream of crazy studio rig like Richard has.
So funny! I love their guitar work. Also, I just watched Rick Beato interview Bernard Purdie of the Purdie Shuffle, and Mr. Purdie emphasizes that good musicians alternate or trade the sound space with the other instruments, so as to not play over someone else (in drumming, it involves, eg, 'ghost notes', where you don't actually strike a beat and interfere with other instruments). This is Rammstein among metal bands. Till's voice overlaps the guitar space, so, guitars back way off for the vocals almost every song. Bass & drum come up in response. Pure gold.
Paul: is a rhythm guitarist, doesn’t have much to do with sound complication so a very simple pedal can suffice him. Richard: is a lead guitarist. Needs to craft the unique sound according to performance and recording
It's got something like 13 controls and five switches (I just googled it; 14 knobs, 7 buttons, 5 footswitches) - this is far more complicated than just having a pedal or two
It's really funny considering that it comes from a guy who decided to learn guitar after half assed playing for a girl. Richard is other thing man, I love this dude.
If you can get your nuts off using a flyrig, by all means do it. Personally, I get off on badass amps and tube tone. Anyone that says they can't tell the difference has broken ears.
The gap in tone between SS and tube is getting smaller and smaller by the day I've found. I used to be a big advocate for tube amps but honestly? I'm liking more and more solid state amps nowadays
@@MayMetalProductions Chuck Schuldiner and Dimebag Darrell made it work for them! There's just something personally that I don't like the feel of. Plugins have gotten much better these days as well, even compared to 5 or 10 years ago.
@@feebypeels2883 Yeah, that's fair. It wouldn't do for us all to be the same. Was gonna get an Orange Rockerverb but after hearing how close the Super Crush 100 gets, I'm leaning more into getting one of those instead
@@MayMetalProductions Orange tube stuff can be pretty pricey. I don't agree that those amps are close, just my opinion, but the Crush isn't bad. Maybe don't skimp on the cab to make up for it a bit. Chuck played the Valvestate 8100s through the full size Marshall cabs, not the Valvestate cabs. Also, solid state will sound awesome in the store or the bedroom, but make sure you crank it to see what it's really gonna sound like. Rock on, brother!
Raw coked meat is good but the fine dining menus the 5 stars chefs practice for years to master is made of putting extreme amount of work in to every minute detail. This is the same. Raw sound is good, but a true master aspires to achieve perfection in every detail. As someone addicted to music, i stay away from a lot of metal bands because they are just to simple sound, like raw cooked meat, ok but nothing special, and many times even their audio is distorted in some frequency range. But everyone has his own taste.
Landers v Kruspe was never settled. It landed out of court and the results are undisclosed. We may never know what occurred during those court proceedings but both men are still among us and making music, often times together. We can only surmise, some trust in the litigation process was reached and an accord was struck.
Must have been so much fun watching these two in the studio back in the days.
I think you need both: you need sound nerds to search for combinations of amps, cabs and mic placement. Once you find good matches, you synthesize them into small practical units for ease of use. Some players want to go deep, some other want to focus on making music and trust their gear is well designed. Both approaches are valid, and complementary even.
Probably one of, if not the best way to break that down. Well said. I got my cousin HEAVILY into Rammstein in '14 with Sonne, the riff in particular, and we would talk about and analyze their whole catalog. His friend said to him that Rammstein's guitars all sound very simple. They're also universally known by Rammstein haters but of the same genre, for being "simple and basic" musically. But my cousin and I feel that their genius lies in the simplicity of their music. They know what sounds good to the ears. Alot of basic riffs. But what other non English industrial metal/Deutsche Hart type band could consistently sell out shows in places like Japan, France, South Africa I believe, and quite a few other ideal places you would think they couldn't sell out a show. And obv not a group that is of the language of said country. And it's not just because of their kick ass shows. For them to sell out 20,000 seats in Tokyo and seeing thousands of Japanese, who don't speak German at ALL, are just LOVING it. Although I learned German as a Canadian with German heritage for Rammstein, you don't have to know what they're saying to love it. It's a feeling they give you when you hear their sound. I apologise for lengthy comment, but when I read yours, it was very insightful and basically matched how I view it.
Yeah. From using a reftifier and just knowing what I know from building this rig to get the fine tuning on it for my preferred big sound for recording has only now made me confident I could do the same with like an AxFx type of unit. Before setting up my rig to how I want it to sound I feel I would be lost with an Axfx or digital type of unit.
nah, get a Peavey VTM and call it a day
IMO I'd get Paul's multi-effect pedal, it's small and portable, instant Rammstein tones at your disposal, whereas Richard's rig is more expensive, he uses Rectifiers and a more complex rig than Paul, Paul was always more of a simplicity guitar player because he's always on Rhythm duty, while Richard is the one on both Rhythm and lead duty.
It's kinda like that Punk attitude that every metal band should need. Of course, better tones is really awesome, but if you can have something that is both cheap and looks cool, then why not? I personally think that a mixture of both is good, that's why I love Rammstein so much.
Richard did actually let native instruments make Rammfire a plugin for guitar rig and its pretty badass, i'd like to pick up pauls pedal too but its expensive in comparison.
@@BrandonPrive1432 Rammfire is also a good option, pair it with a good guitar interface and a good laptop and you will have quick access to Richard's tone
@@daikimizu9324 yep I use it all the time, I actually use it more for his clean tones, something about richards clean tones they’re legit as hell!!!
Yes and no, the distortion isn't what it it is on for example Zick Zack. I have the Pedal, it's kinda a waste of money. Would rather not even buy any of those amps. I use Bogren Digital AmpKnob and NeuralDSP Fortin Nameless Suite at the moment and those sound amazing, it just needs a bit of EQ and it'll sound good! Getting identical Rammstein tones if impossible unless you have literally everything the same, same plectrum, same guitar, same strings (trust me those sound different), same interface, same amp etc. etc. So just do whatever tone you like, no need to get so many details.
You don't need a thousand and one peddles when you're going live. But if you want the actual album to sound right, and have a passion for it, going into incredible detail is a great choice
0:12 I dunno, looks like above average to me, I'd say that's the perfect size, besides it's more important how you use it
Bro you okay?
That’s tiny for a multieffect pedal. Sure they’ve shrunk since then but this is an old video
I’m on Paul’s side if I was ever into guitars like that
like that?
Everyone says that, but it gets addicting to tinker around with effects, plugings and amps. I've lost myself for hours tweaking settings in a multieffect.
Richard is what you get when you have millions to fund this addiction.
It's great to see so many interested in something that (hopefully) will never be a dying art.
Rammstein...einer der besten Musiker die die Welt je gesehen hat !
The remote controlled mic angle did me in.
Perfect edit
Paul: It's very tiny :)
Richard: Robots moving mics around!
I have to say I like both approaches to "soundchasing" but as a guitarist on the budget best I can do is my Helix LT into PA/poweramp. Pauls gear is way more accessible and one can only dream of crazy studio rig like Richard has.
Mic Placing Robot: What my purpose?
Rickard: You place Mics
In that clip he actually went direct into the “Rammfire” Plugin by Native Instruments
One sentence wasn’t translated! He also so said that he loves the direct guitar sound
But, no one said about this Richard's rig, it's studio rig! And nobody don't know what's rig Paul use in studio session!
the one he showed, really!
He is actually using an Sansamp preamp..
Man it's just a gag)
@@Ultrahardfeelings no, he actually uses only Sansamp.
@@DaVaii He used this one....
My favorite video about guitar sound ever!
00:10 Just like you Pauli! xD (sorry I just had to say this haha )
He's not that tiny lol
So funny! I love their guitar work. Also, I just watched Rick Beato interview Bernard Purdie of the Purdie Shuffle, and Mr. Purdie emphasizes that good musicians alternate or trade the sound space with the other instruments, so as to not play over someone else (in drumming, it involves, eg, 'ghost notes', where you don't actually strike a beat and interfere with other instruments). This is Rammstein among metal bands. Till's voice overlaps the guitar space, so, guitars back way off for the vocals almost every song. Bass & drum come up in response. Pure gold.
yes !!
OMG, microphones on the stepper motors
I love Richard and Paul sm 🥰
That's HILARIOUS. Love Paul.
PAUL:Let's travel...
Wenn ich berühmte Gitarissten sehe, bin ich wieder motiviert, weiter zu üben bis die Fingerkuppen brennen.
so wie hier ;)
They use remote control mic stands??
Seems about German
Naw
Paul: is a rhythm guitarist, doesn’t have much to do with sound complication so a very simple pedal can suffice him.
Richard: is a lead guitarist. Needs to craft the unique sound according to performance and recording
It's got something like 13 controls and five switches (I just googled it; 14 knobs, 7 buttons, 5 footswitches) - this is far more complicated than just having a pedal or two
Well, my tube amp has 17 knobs, 7 buttons and 4 footswitches 🤣
JVM410 likes to have a word with you
@@commander591 yeah, I have 205 🤣
Sven Kruspe: I don't want guitar anymore!!! 😭
Girl: 💐
Sound Engineer: How many amps do you want?
Richard Kruspe: All of the amps.
Way back when Du Hast put Rammstein on the radar, Guitar Player magazine did an article on how both Paul & Richard recorded direct....
Really? Do you have the article? I'd like to read that. If not, I'd try to find out if the company still exist and if they have it in archive.
Hilarious.
Richard is more picky. :)
It's really funny considering that it comes from a guy who decided to learn guitar after half assed playing for a girl. Richard is other thing man, I love this dude.
What is this Movie/interview?
I saw that pedal at a music store near where I live :0
Didn't they BOTH go with that small pedal some years ago?... I found it weird they did.
I am both
С днём рождения , Пауль 🎂🎉
He looks like the leader of the chasers in apocolypto
🤣 they had at least the same hairdresser…
Сколько стоит этот девайс?
anybody knows the name of the documentary??
ruclips.net/video/wl3G0uXf7lY/видео.html
No
that's what i want to know too
It's not a documentary. It's Richard's native instruments interview. And Paul's interview for guitar Magazin.
It may sound crazy but I think a middle ground is possible 😏
lmao xD Perfectly put video together/ xD
If you can get your nuts off using a flyrig, by all means do it. Personally, I get off on badass amps and tube tone. Anyone that says they can't tell the difference has broken ears.
The gap in tone between SS and tube is getting smaller and smaller by the day I've found. I used to be a big advocate for tube amps but honestly? I'm liking more and more solid state amps nowadays
@@MayMetalProductions Chuck Schuldiner and Dimebag Darrell made it work for them! There's just something personally that I don't like the feel of. Plugins have gotten much better these days as well, even compared to 5 or 10 years ago.
@@feebypeels2883 Yeah, that's fair. It wouldn't do for us all to be the same. Was gonna get an Orange Rockerverb but after hearing how close the Super Crush 100 gets, I'm leaning more into getting one of those instead
@@MayMetalProductions Orange tube stuff can be pretty pricey. I don't agree that those amps are close, just my opinion, but the Crush isn't bad. Maybe don't skimp on the cab to make up for it a bit. Chuck played the Valvestate 8100s through the full size Marshall cabs, not the Valvestate cabs. Also, solid state will sound awesome in the store or the bedroom, but make sure you crank it to see what it's really gonna sound like. Rock on, brother!
Raw coked meat is good but the fine dining menus the 5 stars chefs practice for years to master is made of putting extreme amount of work in to every minute detail. This is the same. Raw sound is good, but a true master aspires to achieve perfection in every detail. As someone addicted to music, i stay away from a lot of metal bands because they are just to simple sound, like raw cooked meat, ok but nothing special, and many times even their audio is distorted in some frequency range. But everyone has his own taste.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA xD
He would not hear a difference on a kemper… nobody does.. 😂
sounds like something a kemper user would say XD
They use Kempers now...
Yes the aliasing is not even noticeable, nobody hears that
Landers v Kruspe was never settled. It landed out of court and the results are undisclosed. We may never know what occurred during those court proceedings but both men are still among us and making music, often times together. We can only surmise, some trust in the litigation process was reached and an accord was struck.
Do you have more infos about the incident? Can't find anything about Landers vs Kruspe in terms of court stuff.
Not true at all
@@ZacJStones They never went to court
Bruh...
🤣👍
Kirk Hammett is the weeew weeew pedal guy.
Number bullshit guy. He do the wee woo wee woo
You can also just buy a plug-in for Kreative which just *is* Richard's sound(s) now. Sooooo...
All of that for some orange pedal level of distortion? Okay lol
He's playing a Rammstein simulation software, listen to their actual albums to listen in on that sound
It's all about the preamps man!
lol
😄
If you overdo pedals and gadgets you're not even playing guitar anymore.
Ando sound equaal
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mehr sag ich dazu nicht
lol