I can remember my first KP experience like it was yesterday. I just got onboard with my first unit. The 4/7th Calvary at Camp Gary Owen 2nd Infantry Division Korea. I was just a E2. We went on field maneuvers less than a week at my new duty station. Once out in the field, my First Sergeants jeep rolled up to my tank. I was told to pack up. We arrived at the field mess and my First Sergeant said he would be back in two or three days.I was immediately put on dish washing detail. After a very long day and returning to the area where I was to set up my tent and gear, it was clear to me I was on my own. Because I was immediately put on duty, none of my gear had yet to be set up. So I dug in and made a home sweet home. The next morning before sun up I was called out for more duty. Unloading supplies and washing more pots and pans thinking, this sucks! Well three days had gone bye and no relief in sight. I did what we privates do.. I sucked it up. Two more days and still no sign of relief. By now I was given a nickname and was washing more pots and pans. One of the NCO’s joked, there never coming back for you. This continued for a few more days before someone in charge finally reached out to my unit. By then I was given light duty and all the cooks would shake their heads having pity on me. On the eleventh morning my First Sergeants jeep finally rolled up and off to my unit I finally went. Until the end of my first tour, the cooks remembered me and I always got extras from them until the day I left Korea. To all you cooks... thank you for taking care of this private!
KP can be pretty nice, when out in the field , when it is super cold, everything coated with ice and snow and mud a few feet deep. Always warm, always hot coffee, freshly cooked "chow"-not a few hours old and cold from a mermite container, and a cot at night.
@@golfery5119 obviously if people knew the truth about 11B they wouldn’t pick it. Can’t shame people for being lied too by recruiters, or decision they made when they were 18. Prior infantry now senior in college, who completely understands how people can fall into hard times after leaving.
I was 11b for 6yrs and I enjoyed every bit of training but that training was only geared towards combat. It does suck that you can't find a job outside the army with combat infantry skills, unless you started your own private company as a hitman😜
Was 89 Ammo. Got out of the Army and applied for jobs. Landed a job at Home depo. They offered me entry pay. I told them I had warehouse experience in the Army. They laughed and told me my army experience did not count. Shit...
When I was a Boy Scout, they called picking up trash in our campground "policing the area". Makes since , it was the sixties and everybody's Dad was a Vet
When I fucked up and had to do KP for 3 weeks in the field, it wasn't that bad actually. I became friends with the cooks, and they would hook me up with a lot of extra food. Now when I see them at the DFAC, they give me anything I want. People like to make fun of cooks, but from my experience, they are some of the most chill people I have ever had the pleasure of working with.
Lot of people don't realize is by regulation cooks aren't suppose to handle the waste. The unit supports it based on head count...use to be a cook and everytime we were the garbage men.
@@tombob671 as a cook yeah. A lot of guys wouldn't know how hard we busted our ass, until they got sent for a detail. They sing a different song afterwards. Had a guy tell me, do you guys ever sit down?
@@lelandgaunt9985 Of the 2, Thursday is better. Thursday generates an outright 3rd day of your weekend, while Sunday just shifts the 2nd day of your weekend to the right by artificially creating a donut schedule
7:55 92 Golf here. It's not all terrible all the time.... but yeah just about most of the time it does suck as badly as you've heard it does, and then some.
I enjoyed my time as a 11B, Besides being a rifleman in the platoon I also shot the Dragon. That was a lot to tote around with the regular small arms. I took all that knowledge with firearms and became a Gunsmith after getting out and ran my own busiess and I'm retired now.
I was 11BC2 also 1/506th INF Camp Greaves Korea and 3/502 INF 101st Airborne I loved being a dragon gunner and won Top Gun in 1987 S.Korea. Was fortunate enough to shoot 5 Live Dragon rounds. After becoming a motorcycle scout KL250 My training with the dragon brought me into other neat weapons systems like the M202 Flash, C4 / det cord, LAWs, AT4s, hand grenades, bangalor torpedeos and claymore mines. I agree was a lot to tote but we got off chopper first and had an assistant to carry the night site, batteries and coolant cartridges, M60 spare rounds. I also became a combat lifesaver so had the medical kit on top of all the other 11B equipment. We thought 11B was the best MOS, not easy but we got to actually do cool stuff. River operations, Air Assaults, Motorcycles, STABO, riding in the aircraft C5 galaxy, C130, Black hawk, CH47, twice on Hueys, working with 82nd, British Welsh guard, Gurkas, and KATUSA soldiers. and they paid me to do it.
I am a former Army cook/94 Bravo. When we deployed to the field, it was often my job to supervise troops on KP duty. They always sent us the most useless troops....good times.
A veteran of Army Aviation, both Transportation Branch and Aviation Branch in the seventies and eighties , we did police call around our hangar every morning after pt and after morning formation. Parking lot, flight line, tarmac, picking up anything that could be sucked into the engines of our helicopters. And we policed the inside of the hangar looking for discarded cotter pins or safety wire that some mechanics/crew chiefs would lose. And yeah, field stripping a cigarette butt sucks. The only time I had kp duty was in Basic Training. I was tasked with cutting up the pies and putting them on plates. Ate a lot of pie that day. And yeah, as an NCO, I was part of the urine collection team. Had to watch Troopers piss in a bottle. Had a lot of Troopers offer me cash to piss in the bottle for them. I could have made a lot of money! And then there was the NBC team. Another extra duty I had beyond my PMOS 67V2f, was as Squadron Mailroom NCOIC. Whenever we had mailroom inspections, I had to be there. Whenever the Mailroom Clerk was on leave or on sick call, I had to pick up and distribute the mail. Got a lot of free Playboys and Penthouses with that little extra duty. Biggest mistake I ever made when I served in the seventies at Fort Carson: taking two years of high school typing and letting the unit know I could type. My MOS 67U10 was sidelined and I suddenly found myself as the Unit Orderly Room Clerk, typing for the CO and First Sergeant. Oh well.
Mashimaro Umaru warrant officers are officers but they are outranked by actual commissioned officers, they still salute all officers but all enlisted must salute them, they’re authority is also really weird.
Great conversation! Before I was on AD, I was in the USAR for just under 3 years as a 94B (which is now a 92G). We had a lot of career cooks/chefs in our unit so our chow was generally pretty darned good, even in the field and back then we were cracking eggs rather than heating up bagged frozen scrambled eggs. From what I've observed, a lot of AD cooks just aren't cut out for that job. Many will either get out or re-up to get away from food service. I get it too. When I entered AD in 1989 it was not as a cook. My first duty station was Polk and food at our own DFAC would sometimes result in sick Soldiers, usually due to undercooked pork and sometimes straight up food poisoning. How 'bout that: Eat at your own DFAC and get sick! Plus, for the many of us who've been deployed a lot, contractor chow is almost invariably better than food cooked by the military. I spent a few days at FOB Orgun-E once in 2008 and they had food cooked my Army cooks. It was just not as good as the stuff that our mostly eastern European contractors were cooking. Let's face it, those contracted cooks typically have more experience, learn to do more with less, and get paid a lot more $$ than a PFC, SPC, or SGT.
One of my favorite memories of BCT at FLW, MO in 72 was KP duty. My BCT company was schedule for M-60 familiarization at the range. It was a cold, rainy and windy October day. While the rest of the boots were laying on cold wet rocks, I was in a warm dry mess hall. We cleaned the floors and tables, and loaded and unloaded trays from the dishwashers. In August it would have been hell but on a cold rainy day in October it was a lucky break. We ate well and the cooks were nice to us.
Yep,burning sxxt was one of the worst jobs I had in the Army.But we managed to get a chuckle out of that one time,we had gotten local nationals to burn out the poop cans.Procedure was to dump a couple gallons desel fuel in then use just enough gasoline to get the diesel fuel burning. We gave the turd burners a couple cans of JP4, they just about burned the crapper down.Funny as hell watching them running around trying to figure out what was wrong.We did get told not to do that again.But the very worst job I ever had in the Army was recovering wrecked trucks and such.We were sent out with the accident investigators,some times we had to move a wreck around so the medics could try to save the victim.Saw some things I won't describe on here.Worst job ever and it had a direct match to a civilian job doing the exact same thing.
Jeez I remember having to do KP duty in Iraq, and cleaning dishes from sun up to sun down. There was a never ending supply of dirty pans that kept rolling through, but at least they gave us a case of rip-its for our troubles. Thank god for KBR and their contractors who eventually took over that duty.
Some of the worst jobs in the navy are Mess Cranking ; 90 days of KP on a ship for E3s and below . Tiger Teams ; going down in the lower decks to chip paint and clean out the bilge. Undesignated Seaman ; chipping paint , busting rust , applying primer and paint endlessly until you get a rating ( MOS ). Pier Sweepers ; policing a pier of seagull shit and dumpster juices . Working Parties ; can mean anything , including putting containment around booms around the ship to control oil spills in the water . Working Aloft ; means climbing far up the mast to work on antennae , not for those afraid of heights . Fire Watch ; following a welder around while wearing a welding helmet and carrying a fire extinguisher , all the time hoping he doesn't blow something up .
@Me-eb3wv Weilding a needle gun sounds cool , but it is just a pneumatic tool that chips paint, and you need to wear hearing and eye protection . Even being on the other side of the hull when someone is using a needle gun can cause tinnitus . I actually had the best two weeks of sea duty when I worked aloft . About six of us climbed the mast , hauled a cooler of Cokes , a bunch of cigarettes , and a boom box up above the Signal Bridge to the yardarms . I was an Operations Specialist ( Radarman) . The Electronic Warfare Specialists , Radiomen , and some Electronic Technicians went aloft with us to perform maintenance on their gear . 9 out 10 jobs in the navy and would do it again .
I have one STAFF DUTY. Manning the radios all night, waxing the floors, cleaning the conference rooms, mopping, emptying trash cans, cleaning the laterals, answering phones……. All night at times your use to 😴
I didn’t mean cleaning details. What used to get me upset is when someone of the same rank would be tasked to clean something and they order me to do it instead. Even though we were the same rank, he would pull seniority on me.
@@eyelessclowned most likely not, seniority is a thing, if you have a brand new guy show up, and another guy who’s been there for a year but he’s still a private, he can rightfully deligate tasks to you.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 I got out of the Army nearly 30 years ago. That said, I was in Germany at the end of the Cold War, and it was a fun time to be there. The work wasn't bad either.
I was in the army, but I knew one guy in the AF. His job was to clean up a body of a dead person. He was a real nice guy. He was having problems with it. 8:00 Heard cooks in the army have it bad. waking up early and also working long hours. On the plus side if you want to work as chef or in that area, company caferterias are very apt to hire them. But I really think you have to love cooking in order to be succesful at it. I did not take drugs but I knew testers drawn from the unit. What they did was help out their fellow soldiers come up negative. 9:30 I was a mechanic in the army. They normally did not try to overwork the mechanics because they did not want them burned out. 11:30 For 11B it's easy for them to become a prison guard or even a cop.
Police call?...Imma guess its when the MPs get called to something and you have to fill their post of something they were guarding? Edit: Darn, not even close lol
With an Aviation MOS, a police call is a very common thing. FOD can be a huge issue on the tarmac. Every time we did one, I did not mind it at all. I did not want to see the aftermath of what could happen.
I loved police call because having things look nice and tidy helps everyone feel good...who wants to see $hit all over? KP was a pretty good experience for me as well the one time that I had to do it, what made the difference was who we were working with. The hours were very long but we did also get a lot of freedom in between. I was a 31B, our home town mission for several years was CERF-P witch was fun as well. When my friend Tony went to MEPS and had to pee in the cup he asked the Observer "Do you like your job?" Lol The worst thing I'd have to say was picking up brass after the range...if it was not accounted for than expect to spend lots of time on your hands and knees looking for more.
Police Call , usually when we are at the Range and we have to police call it so there won't be and garbage around the area or collect the dunnitch. No brass no ammo weapon is on safe Drill SGT lol
Uuuugh hearing KP is like bringing back horror memories of when i went to job corp. so many hours of just doing nothing but having to wake uo early. I knew job corp had some military incorporation but didnt know that was it as well.
I got sent to KP detail 2 times in a row because I “ tied a knot when I wasn’t suppose to “ my dickhead of a leader at the time was a RaNgEr TaB. Good times so glad I got out
I never understood how many hours cooks worked until I was assigned to a HHC unit, they work crazy hours and do not get the respect they deserve. I did KP at Ft McClellan, hated cleaning the grease trap or the potato peeler. The mess SGT sets the tone for the mess, whether the food is good or mediocre.
I always wondered why it seemed like the EIB was more of an individual thing rather than a platoon thing. I remember seeing a squad leader taking all of his guys out for months before EIB and practicing before the actual testing. 100% of them (including the squad leader) got an EIB. Meanwhile, my people didn’t seem to care less. There could be so many more EIB’s if things were done as a team. No, I never got an EIB. I “tried” 2 times in 5yrs.
What if you earned the EIB badge? You're a civilian now. What would it have served you in this world you're now in? Why pines for an achievement with no reward? For example, I was a 12B30 when I retired. As a combat engineer, the achievement to aspire to was that of the SAPPER badge. It's tough to earn, but then what afterward? If one didn't have airborne or assault wings, you were still a leg engineer. Even if one was airborne or air assault you were only that until you landed, then guess what??? You became a leg engineer with pinned wings. I graduated from the SF Q course and got on a team for a long while. What have I to show for this broken bones permanently scared skin and ptsd nightmares so bad my wife and I sleep in two different rooms just so she can get sleep she very much deserves. The one and only wonderful thing being in the Army I got is my wonderful wife who's stayed the very difficult course as a dependent has to adjust to. Stop pining for that once EIB move on and enjoy what you can now.
Your dad said pee pee? He really isn't your dad is he? Men don't say pee, or pee pee . It urine, piss, drain the main vain. Men don't use words to make something they do sound cute. Word for the wise.
Woo, as a boyscout i guessed police call right. Boyscouts have a similar things where at the end of a campiut you get in a line and look for all trash. We called it a police line. Super creative ik
I was a Glorified GRUNT AKA COMBAT ENGR. SAPPERS CLEAR THE WAY HOOAH 😤. And I did love my MOS when I was Training, which we did A LOT. But in Garrison it SUCKED. Going to the Motor Pool or Drawing Weapons to clean. But I will say this, The Fact That I Did Serve My Country 🇺🇸 It Has Helped Me Get Jobs That Without My Time In The Army I Would Have Never Gotten. I advise anyone that doesn’t have a solid plan for their lives to take the ASVAB, talk to some recruiters and find a MOS that suits your interests and Join. Serve Your Country, you’ll be glad you did.
I found climbing into a water buffalo to sand and clean the interior before resealing it so it can carry water again . It was damn near impossible. That and sewer clearing , big rats ... not FUN
Being in the field and details didn't bother me at all! I hated the south and the isolation and mind games! I ate so much at KP i got thrown off the detail!😅
I used to joke around when doing drug tests fill up the bottle and there would be some foam on the top. I would joke nice head just like my beer last night. Ha ha ha
Another thing mechanics have to worry about is tool accountability, if someone loses a wrench for example or they thought they lost a wrench, no one leaves until that lost tool is found and accounted for.
Picking cigarette butts, trash, cleaning toilets, and mess cranking, taught how me to appreciate the people who did that stuff in the civilian . It also taught not to be a fucking slob, and shithead.
On Gomer Pyle Sergeant Carter says police the area and you see all the men cleanup watch that when I was a kid and the reality comes everybody's going to Vietnam
All jobs suck until you make rank, everything is based on rank.. SGTs do not pick up cigg butts,or clear the barracks for inspection.. It is all rank based..I am sure after serving 20 years, I do. know as much as our You Tube person.. I must say he is correct.. Again it is all rank related, as A SSG in a military police unit I over watched and was NCIOC in many. Millitary Police drug tests.. i do think the worst job is cooks, Supply and any job for a E3 or below..
Whenever I got tested back in the early 80's, I'd pee all over the bottle as I finished, then lift it up with a big smile to hand it to whomever was watching. "WIPE THAT SHIT OFFA THAT!" was the usual reply, lol.
Police Call SUCKS! It's when you have to line up and go pick-up trash, cigarette butts and such from a designated area targeted to be cleaned...at least that's what recall!
I ALWAYS refused to pick up cigarette butts during a police call. Got chewed out and smoked a couple times for it, never cared. I’d take an article 15 any day
It's universal , I served in the Israeli Army and hated KP duty with a passion. It wasn't so much the cleaning, but the fact that kitchen personnel requested help and then end up superving you while doing nothing. It would drive me nuts.
I hated being a light weight vehicle mechanic mostly because I didn't know issh, I was in reserves and when we got shipped to Kuwait they paired us with these Pakistanis that couldn't speak english
In Germany I found out after the fact that a TDY of sorts was supposed to be a "punishment", why I never figured out but anyway, I was attached to the Postal/Mail unit in Frankfurt for the 3 month Christmas Season. I remained billeted in my regular Kaserne and room but was exempt from ALL duties there, no guard duty, no alerts, no details, nothing. The schedule with the Postal Unit was broken up and there was two separate shifts/groups. We worked every other day and every other weekend starting about 6pm until finished unloading, sorting, and reloading trucks with incoming and mail/packages bound for the US, usually done by 10 or 11pm. What really pissed off the NCO that "volunteered" me for this was each and every morning for those 3 months while they were in formation I was headed out the gate in Civies to venture downtown and see the sights, sometimes I returned to my room after formation ended to catch some more sleep. I had an issued "Strasse Pass" so the buses and trains were free for those 3 months also. What a sham job that was but never regretted having done it Oh and my MOS, when the Army went "digital" in the mid 80s all the equipment AND my MOS were delegated to the Signal Museum at Gordon
Police Call, or as we called it in Ft. Eustis, "Area Beautification", aka picking up trash/cigarette butts. Latrine duty, KP duty and CQ (fire watch). I was an 88H, Cargo Specialist (awesome job BTW), but we had a lot of down time between deployments and training, so Police Call it is. Do Not get injured, you'll have a lot of Police Calls to do.
im a lil lost at words. Yes being a cooked sucked, but let me tell you a bit more as someone who was a cook for 6 years. It is a lot worst than just bad hours. Being a cook, we operate within our own systems most of the time for standard divisions. Starting with hours.We do not get days off inbetween days off mid week, Ive never ever had that. We do not have weekends. We do not get holidays. That is only the tip. Weekends are given 1 day off the week , twice a month. It is expected you pull 14 day weeks, before the 1 day off. It is expected you will work full staff day, on weekends, meaning you work from 3am-9pm, the 18 hour shift is to cover the 1 day off for the other shift. Not every one gets that day off. Weeks are the worst and we end up having to staff more people. Saturday is for deep cleaning, Sunday is week prep. Why we do not get weekends, and 1 day off every other weekend, and that is primarily for room cleaning, laundrey, personnel inventory, etc. What is worst is that, if the weekends are mid week from payday + event week. Some sort of holiday or special occasion + the broke soldiers. Now we have to do full work like regular days, while still trying to deep clean, week prep, and inventory. This happens everymonth, and some times 2-3 times, which is basically every weekend. We have Cast off. So like what was mentioned above. You get 1 day a week every 2 weeks, well expect that to only happen for 4-6 months of the year total. Every few months cooks ETS out, it takes a few months until we get transfers and new cooks. When we have enough cooks to perform 2 full duty shifts, we do what is said above. When we are in the off months, and do not. We are expected to work either 3am-6pm, or 6am-9pm every single day for an unknown lenght. I have gone on 4 month garrison schedule with this. More often than not, new cooks are given to units once the unit is starting to falter. AKA cooks commiting suicide, going AWOL, rampant drug/alochal abuse, and once this travels up the chain enough, they send in the new cooks. Now here is the rest of the problem, which is mainly focused on how your UNIT treats your cooks. If they are stupid, they will try to force cooks into standard duties. We are still soldiers. Often new commanders, officers, and tryhard non cook NCOs will try this. They get cooks to do PT, as simple as that sounds, is killer on the body. Doing PT then standing on your feet for 10 hours, don't feel good after you do it for 60 days straight. Cooks also do need to do regular check ups, dental, appointments, formations, etc, which is done by the DFAC schedule. Some units will try to do it themselves, and it will rock the DFAC, when half the shift is gone. Everything falls apart. Now you got cooks working until midnight, cooks having to come in at 2 AM for emergency prep. Then those units are dumb enough to still enforce regular meetings and formations, which is escalate things into pure chaos. You got cooks burning themselves because they are half awake, making piss poor food, and basically not giving a fuck. The fact that every day is a time sensitive, and high pressure environement doesn't help. Sure it isn't life threatening, but when your told, if you don't finish all tasks by opening, expect to do a double shift tommorow. That puts a lot of stress and pressue on you, and it is just a downward spiral once you fail once. Experienced leadership, knows to just leave the cooks alone. We are already stuck in our endless shitty cycle with horrible hours. I use to think the hours weren't that bad, every one has bad hours. Then i got a special detail that lasted 6 months working as gate security, and also food service for the gate personel. I worked normal hours, got up for PT, went to security meetings, then picked up lunch and dinner for the field security on outer gates. I worked mainly regular hours, but got off around 8 everyday. I only worked 4 days a week, since it was a 12 hour work day. I still had to do CQ, HQ, etc. However all of this, I got weekends basically, I got 3day holidays, (I was actually told by my SFC to never show my face at the DFAC or they will force you to work that day, he was looking out for me). I actually felt like I was in the military, doing regular training, and getting regular hours. That is when I realized, being a cook is complete utter SHIT. You migtht say it nonchallantely that "cooks hate they're job, because bad hours". It isn't just bad hours, its HORRIBLE hours, to the point that we just gave up. We have to lie to ourselves that it isn't so bad. I am returning to service soon, after getting out for 4 years, I only got out, and refused to making NCO rank, because I hated being a cook. I was on the road to E5 before i got that 6 month detail. I realized I was I was just fooling myself saying being a cook isn't that bad. Even when I was trying to reclass, they would not let me change class. They said, I would have to stay as a cook for 1-2 years to wait for schooling. Even when I asked for ANY other MOS. Even when I got out, and was shopping around to re-join a year after I got out, recruiters were telling me, that the Army still wants me to return as a cook. I had to wait 5 years, just so that I can be "out of skill", so that they would let me pick a different MOS. Even then, it was offered a 4k sign in bonus, to skip AIT if I rejoined as a cook, and did on site refresher training. Cooks have the lowest retention in any MOS. There is a reason why. That job is one of the worst jobs in the military. It is a very important job, but it is the worst. Do I regret being a cook? no. I feel like I can literally do any job now. 20 hour shift? no problem. 60 day work week? no problem. Not getting a bonus, day off, etc. Expected. Would I ever do it again, now that I know better? FUCK NO.
I started basic training when I was 17 and had my 18th birthday there. Drill SGT Graves thought he would give me KP duty for my birthday. Wasn't too bad tho. The cooks made me a cake.
I do wonder sometimes how things been if I had have picked 91B which was one of my options. I went with 92G instead and while I hate life I am glad I'm not always in a hot motorpool. It's bad enough spending hours in the cold or hot sun or rain doing connex layouts all day in the motorpool.
My best friend is a LCpl in the Corps and he got sent to a CBRN unit. He says he is proud to do what he does but "It's fucking boring as fuck, I just wanna fire my fucking rifle." Spoken like a true Marine haha. Semper Fi, Behrmann.
The RSOP section of a PATRIOT Battery always gave the least mission essential soldier the task of taking off their Pro Mask to see if they die from chemical attack. Worst Job an ADA soldier can have.. not only are you useless to everyone, but they are alright on letting you die xD
Police call you just got burned out of your weekend pass because you had to make sure 6th brigade was cigarette butt free or Logan heights was weed free
Any job that doesn't give you a skill when you get out is the worst job in the Army. To all you lifers....you will still be young when you retire and you will have to do something else for 20+ years.
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I can remember my first KP experience like it was yesterday. I just got onboard with my first unit. The 4/7th Calvary at Camp Gary Owen 2nd Infantry Division Korea. I was just a E2. We went on field maneuvers less than a week at my new duty station. Once out in the field, my First Sergeants jeep rolled up to my tank. I was told to pack up. We arrived at the field mess and my First Sergeant said he would be back in two or three days.I was immediately put on dish washing detail. After a very long day and returning to the area where I was to set up my tent and gear, it was clear to me I was on my own. Because I was immediately put on duty, none of my gear had yet to be set up. So I dug in and made a home sweet home. The next morning before sun up I was called out for more duty. Unloading supplies and washing more pots and pans thinking, this sucks! Well three days had gone bye and no relief in sight. I did what we privates do.. I sucked it up. Two more days and still no sign of relief. By now I was given a nickname and was washing more pots and pans. One of the NCO’s joked, there never coming back for you. This continued for a few more days before someone in charge finally reached out to my unit. By then I was given light duty and all the cooks would shake their heads having pity on me. On the eleventh morning my First Sergeants jeep finally rolled up and off to my unit I finally went. Until the end of my first tour, the cooks remembered me and I always got extras from them until the day I left Korea. To all you cooks... thank you for taking care of this private!
KP can be pretty nice, when out in the field , when it is super cold, everything coated with ice and snow and mud a few feet deep. Always warm, always hot coffee, freshly cooked "chow"-not a few hours old and cold from a mermite container, and a cot at night.
I did KP in Basic & AIT. Loved it. I volunteered for pot & pans duty. Nobody messing with you. They just let you be.
92 double G is the MOS for me, we will always support the Infantry!
We used to joke infantry will prepare you for a life of homelessness when you get out
I hope that never happens
@@andrewchen2382 you picked 11 bravo
lol omg
@@golfery5119 obviously if people knew the truth about 11B they wouldn’t pick it. Can’t shame people for being lied too by recruiters, or decision they made when they were 18.
Prior infantry now senior in college, who completely understands how people can fall into hard times after leaving.
@@Leos131 thanks for your service.
I was 11b for 6yrs and I enjoyed every bit of training but that training was only geared towards combat. It does suck that you can't find a job outside the army with combat infantry skills, unless you started your own private company as a hitman😜
CIA?
@@skinny6710 CIA probably wants someone with at least secret clearence
I want to join 11b, can you move up?. I’d like to be possibly sent to combat so that’s why 11b but then I’d like to transition into planning missions.
Police officer
Hey who said that wasn’t the plan all along?
Guarding a swamp all night long in subzero weather, armed with a ball bat.
Was 89 Ammo. Got out of the Army and applied for jobs. Landed a job at Home depo. They offered me entry pay. I told them I had warehouse experience in the Army. They laughed and told me my army experience did not count. Shit...
I don’t mean to be rude, but it’s Home Depot lol
Sad if true
@@jacodyhamilton2626 lol. I was 23 at the time. Did not have a career yet
@@mikethemechanic7395 what do you do now?
@@Jaylamah529 23 years as a Diesel mechanic
When I was a Boy Scout, they called picking up trash in our campground "policing the area". Makes since , it was the sixties and everybody's Dad was a Vet
When I fucked up and had to do KP for 3 weeks in the field, it wasn't that bad actually. I became friends with the cooks, and they would hook me up with a lot of extra food. Now when I see them at the DFAC, they give me anything I want.
People like to make fun of cooks, but from my experience, they are some of the most chill people I have ever had the pleasure of working with.
Lot of people don't realize is by regulation cooks aren't suppose to handle the waste. The unit supports it based on head count...use to be a cook and everytime we were the garbage men.
We had a saying, "There are two armys,- The Real Army(Combat Arms), The Army with the women in it,
and then you got the Cooks".
1966-68 USMC... my experience observing is cooks work like galley slaves. They busted their ass, much respect to the cooks.
@@tombob671 as a cook yeah. A lot of guys wouldn't know how hard we busted our ass, until they got sent for a detail. They sing a different song afterwards. Had a guy tell me, do you guys ever sit down?
@@yummychips_ YUP, cooks are the unsung heroes. After 21 days eating C Rations they brought out some SOS AND COFFEE, hot chow, it tasted gourmet.
24 Hour CQ , staff duty. That sucks
Not on Thursday or Sunday. The crap days were Friday or Saturday.
@@lelandgaunt9985 facts
CQ is way more lax then staff duty
@@lelandgaunt9985 Of the 2, Thursday is better. Thursday generates an outright 3rd day of your weekend, while Sunday just shifts the 2nd day of your weekend to the right by artificially creating a donut schedule
Mystic Thunder
I enjoyed the Sunday because I didn’t have to deal with motor pool Monday.
I volunteered to "walk the dog" in the Air Force and ended walking around picking up trash.
Tammy Que
That’s funny! Bet you didn’t do much volunteering after that!
62J-General Equipment Operator. That job really sucks 😣!
That's why they say never volunteer
7:55 92 Golf here. It's not all terrible all the time.... but yeah just about most of the time it does suck as badly as you've heard it does, and then some.
I enjoyed my time as a 11B, Besides being a rifleman in the platoon I also shot the Dragon. That was a lot to tote around with the regular small arms. I took all that knowledge with firearms and became a Gunsmith after getting out and ran my own busiess and I'm retired now.
What is the dragon?
@@matiascandia4946 M47. Wire guided anti tank missile
I was 11BC2 also 1/506th INF Camp Greaves Korea and 3/502 INF 101st Airborne I loved being a dragon gunner and won Top Gun in 1987 S.Korea. Was fortunate enough to shoot 5 Live Dragon rounds. After becoming a motorcycle scout KL250 My training with the dragon brought me into other neat weapons systems like the M202 Flash, C4 / det cord, LAWs, AT4s, hand grenades, bangalor torpedeos and claymore mines. I agree was a lot to tote but we got off chopper first and had an assistant to carry the night site, batteries and coolant cartridges, M60 spare rounds. I also became a combat lifesaver so had the medical kit on top of all the other 11B equipment. We thought 11B was the best MOS, not easy but we got to actually do cool stuff. River operations, Air Assaults, Motorcycles, STABO, riding in the aircraft C5 galaxy, C130, Black hawk, CH47, twice on Hueys, working with 82nd, British Welsh guard, Gurkas, and KATUSA soldiers. and they paid me to do it.
I am a former Army cook/94 Bravo. When we deployed to the field, it was often my job to supervise troops on KP duty. They always sent us the most useless troops....good times.
A veteran of Army Aviation, both Transportation Branch and Aviation Branch in the seventies and eighties , we did police call around our hangar every morning after pt and after morning formation. Parking lot, flight line, tarmac, picking up anything that could be sucked into the engines of our helicopters. And we policed the inside of the hangar looking for discarded cotter pins or safety wire that some mechanics/crew chiefs would lose. And yeah, field stripping a cigarette butt sucks.
The only time I had kp duty was in Basic Training. I was tasked with cutting up the pies and putting them on plates. Ate a lot of pie that day.
And yeah, as an NCO, I was part of the urine collection team. Had to watch Troopers piss in a bottle. Had a lot of Troopers offer me cash to piss in the bottle for them. I could have made a lot of money!
And then there was the NBC team.
Another extra duty I had beyond my PMOS 67V2f, was as Squadron Mailroom NCOIC. Whenever we had mailroom inspections, I had to be there. Whenever the Mailroom Clerk was on leave or on sick call, I had to pick up and distribute the mail. Got a lot of free Playboys and Penthouses with that little extra duty.
Biggest mistake I ever made when I served in the seventies at Fort Carson: taking two years of high school typing and letting the unit know I could type. My MOS 67U10 was sidelined and I suddenly found myself as the Unit Orderly Room Clerk, typing for the CO and First Sergeant. Oh well.
Can you go over the enlisted moving to officer program I think it’s the green to gold.
Yeah or a complete video of all the routes of going from enlisted to officer.
@@jasonramero6274 green to gold is the only route
Holy handgrenade 1999 is warrant officer “officer”?
Mashimaro Umaru warrant officers are officers but they are outranked by actual commissioned officers, they still salute all officers but all enlisted must salute them, they’re authority is also really weird.
I’m planning going on Green to Gold. But if you wanna learn more, go to Matt Wards RUclips channel, has a lot of gud stuff on there, LT award that is
In the Navy, they call it “Field Day.” When I first heard the term after I enlisted, I thought “Oh cool! Field Trip!” Nope!😂
Great conversation! Before I was on AD, I was in the USAR for just under 3 years as a 94B (which is now a 92G). We had a lot of career cooks/chefs in our unit so our chow was generally pretty darned good, even in the field and back then we were cracking eggs rather than heating up bagged frozen scrambled eggs. From what I've observed, a lot of AD cooks just aren't cut out for that job. Many will either get out or re-up to get away from food service. I get it too. When I entered AD in 1989 it was not as a cook. My first duty station was Polk and food at our own DFAC would sometimes result in sick Soldiers, usually due to undercooked pork and sometimes straight up food poisoning. How 'bout that: Eat at your own DFAC and get sick!
Plus, for the many of us who've been deployed a lot, contractor chow is almost invariably better than food cooked by the military. I spent a few days at FOB Orgun-E once in 2008 and they had food cooked my Army cooks. It was just not as good as the stuff that our mostly eastern European contractors were cooking. Let's face it, those contracted cooks typically have more experience, learn to do more with less, and get paid a lot more $$ than a PFC, SPC, or SGT.
One of my favorite memories of BCT at FLW, MO in 72 was KP duty. My BCT company was schedule for M-60 familiarization at the range. It was a cold, rainy and windy October day. While the rest of the boots were laying on cold wet rocks, I was in a warm dry mess hall. We cleaned the floors and tables, and loaded and unloaded trays from the dishwashers. In August it would have been hell but on a cold rainy day in October it was a lucky break. We ate well and the cooks were nice to us.
Burned poop in desert storm...I can still smell it...
I remember seeing a video just like that on RUclips. I always wondered what those men are up to now.
I never seen anybody work harder and with the most demanding mos or hated their life more than 11B, 92G and 31B, 88M.
Yep,burning sxxt was one of the worst jobs I had in the Army.But we managed to get a chuckle out of that one time,we had gotten local nationals to burn out the poop cans.Procedure was to dump a couple gallons desel fuel in then use just enough gasoline to get the diesel fuel burning. We gave the turd burners a couple cans of JP4, they just about burned the crapper down.Funny as hell watching them running around trying to figure out what was wrong.We did get told not to do that again.But the very worst job I ever had in the Army was recovering wrecked trucks and such.We were sent out with the accident investigators,some times we had to move a wreck around so the medics could try to save the victim.Saw some things I won't describe on here.Worst job ever and it had a direct match to a civilian job doing the exact same thing.
Jeez I remember having to do KP duty in Iraq, and cleaning dishes from sun up to sun down. There was a never ending supply of dirty pans that kept rolling through, but at least they gave us a case of rip-its for our troubles. Thank god for KBR and their contractors who eventually took over that duty.
"Wheeled Vehicle Mechanic/Ammo Specialist"
Wow, so both my jobs? Eh, they're alright.
Some of the worst jobs in the navy are Mess Cranking ; 90 days of KP on a ship for E3s and below . Tiger Teams ; going down in the lower decks to chip paint and clean out the bilge. Undesignated Seaman ; chipping paint , busting rust , applying primer and paint endlessly until you get a rating ( MOS ). Pier Sweepers ; policing a pier of seagull shit and dumpster juices . Working Parties ; can mean anything , including putting containment around booms around the ship to control oil spills in the water . Working Aloft ; means climbing far up the mast to work on antennae , not for those afraid of heights . Fire Watch ; following a welder around while wearing a welding helmet and carrying a fire extinguisher , all the time hoping he doesn't blow something up .
Thanks for the heads up lol
@Me-eb3wv Weilding a needle gun sounds cool , but it is just a pneumatic tool that chips paint, and you need to wear hearing and eye protection . Even being on the other side of the hull when someone is using a needle gun can cause tinnitus . I actually had the best two weeks of sea duty when I worked aloft . About six of us climbed the mast , hauled a cooler of Cokes , a bunch of cigarettes , and a boom box up above the Signal Bridge to the yardarms . I was an Operations Specialist ( Radarman) . The Electronic Warfare Specialists , Radiomen , and some Electronic Technicians went aloft with us to perform maintenance on their gear . 9 out 10 jobs in the navy and would do it again .
I have one STAFF DUTY. Manning the radios all night, waxing the floors, cleaning the conference rooms, mopping, emptying trash cans, cleaning the laterals, answering phones……. All night at times your use to 😴
I deployed with a chemical company full of 74Ds to Iraq. We did something completely out of the CBRN mos. We did detainee operations at Camp Bucca.
I didn’t mean cleaning details. What used to get me upset is when someone of the same rank would be tasked to clean something and they order me to do it instead. Even though we were the same rank, he would pull seniority on me.
Is it something that has to do with your color or religion or ethnicity?
@@eyelessclowned most likely not, seniority is a thing, if you have a brand new guy show up, and another guy who’s been there for a year but he’s still a private, he can rightfully deligate tasks to you.
@@eyelessclowned lmao race card puller.
This is why I would always ask everyone’s date of rank. I would add a few months over theirs lol
Ok, this 88M wants to know where you got the blinker fluid shirt!
Grunt Style
🚛 Do you like being a motor transport operator?
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 I got out of the Army nearly 30 years ago. That said, I was in Germany at the end of the Cold War, and it was a fun time to be there. The work wasn't bad either.
I was in the army, but I knew one guy in the AF. His job was to clean up a body of a dead person. He was a real nice guy. He was having problems with it.
8:00 Heard cooks in the army have it bad. waking up early and also working long hours.
On the plus side if you want to work as chef or in that area, company caferterias are very apt to hire them. But I really think you have to love cooking in order to be succesful at it.
I did not take drugs but I knew testers drawn from the unit. What they did was help out their fellow soldiers come up negative.
9:30 I was a mechanic in the army. They normally did not try to overwork the mechanics because they did not want them burned out.
11:30 For 11B it's easy for them to become a prison guard or even a cop.
Police call?...Imma guess its when the MPs get called to something and you have to fill their post of something they were guarding?
Edit: Darn, not even close lol
logical guess though
Haha I thought the same
With an Aviation MOS, a police call is a very common thing. FOD can be a huge issue on the tarmac. Every time we did one, I did not mind it at all. I did not want to see the aftermath of what could happen.
I loved police call because having things look nice and tidy helps everyone feel good...who wants to see $hit all over? KP was a pretty good experience for me as well the one time that I had to do it, what made the difference was who we were working with. The hours were very long but we did also get a lot of freedom in between. I was a 31B, our home town mission for several years was CERF-P witch was fun as well.
When my friend Tony went to MEPS and had to pee in the cup he asked the Observer "Do you like your job?" Lol
The worst thing I'd have to say was picking up brass after the range...if it was not accounted for than expect to spend lots of time on your hands and knees looking for more.
Police Call , usually when we are at the Range and we have to police call it so there won't be and garbage around the area or collect the dunnitch. No brass no ammo weapon is on safe Drill SGT lol
Uuuugh hearing KP is like bringing back horror memories of when i went to job corp. so many hours of just doing nothing but having to wake uo early. I knew job corp had some military incorporation but didnt know that was it as well.
One of the sergeant's who was a "urinalysis observer" earned a name given to him by his fellow NCOs. I think it was "piss boy."
Meatgazer, hammerhawk
That would suck. 😆
I still remember always seeing the thick black smoke from the burning trash at Camp Anaconda, Balad.
I got sent to KP detail 2 times in a row because I “ tied a knot when I wasn’t suppose to “ my dickhead of a leader at the time was a RaNgEr TaB. Good times so glad I got out
I never understood how many hours cooks worked until I was assigned to a HHC unit, they work crazy hours and do not get the respect they deserve. I did KP at Ft McClellan, hated cleaning the grease trap or the potato peeler. The mess SGT sets the tone for the mess, whether the food is good or mediocre.
How many hours do they work
GI the grease trap is the worst. Burning S&&& in Nam was a relaxing job, even the snipers left you alone.
lol
I always wondered why it seemed like the EIB was more of an individual thing rather than a platoon thing. I remember seeing a squad leader taking all of his guys out for months before EIB and practicing before the actual testing. 100% of them (including the squad leader) got an EIB. Meanwhile, my people didn’t seem to care less. There could be so many more EIB’s if things were done as a team. No, I never got an EIB. I “tried” 2 times in 5yrs.
What if you earned the EIB badge? You're a civilian now. What would it have served you in this world you're now in? Why pines for an achievement with no reward? For example, I was a 12B30 when I retired. As a combat engineer, the achievement to aspire to was that of the SAPPER badge. It's tough to earn, but then what afterward? If one didn't have airborne or assault wings, you were still a leg engineer. Even if one was airborne or air assault you were only that until you landed, then guess what??? You became a leg engineer with pinned wings. I graduated from the SF Q course and got on a team for a long while. What have I to show for this broken bones permanently scared skin and ptsd nightmares so bad my wife and I sleep in two different rooms just so she can get sleep she very much deserves. The one and only wonderful thing being in the Army I got is my wonderful wife who's stayed the very difficult course as a dependent has to adjust to.
Stop pining for that once EIB move on and enjoy what you can now.
@@benjaminwilliams3568 While I understand what you’re getting at, it’s easy for someone who got a long tab to say this kind of thing.
Police call... we used to call that "Garden Party": clean up the area around your barracks, or other designated place.
(USAF veteran 1970's)
My dad once stuck with being urinalysis observer.
He jokingly referred to it as being a Pee-Pee Inspector :)
Your dad said pee pee?
He really isn't your dad is he?
Men don't say pee, or pee pee . It urine, piss, drain the main vain.
Men don't use words to make something they do sound cute. Word for the wise.
@@pychohobo1832 They do if they're secure in their masculinity. Now let me tend to my booboo, lol.
@@pychohobo1832 Real men don't give a fuck what others think of them. Word of the wise.
I remember somebody also calling them Pecker Checkers.
Woo, as a boyscout i guessed police call right. Boyscouts have a similar things where at the end of a campiut you get in a line and look for all trash. We called it a police line. Super creative ik
I was a Glorified GRUNT AKA COMBAT ENGR. SAPPERS CLEAR THE WAY HOOAH 😤. And I did love my MOS when I was Training, which we did A LOT. But in Garrison it SUCKED. Going to the Motor Pool or Drawing Weapons to clean. But I will say this, The Fact That I Did Serve My Country 🇺🇸 It Has Helped Me Get Jobs That Without My Time In The Army I Would Have Never Gotten. I advise anyone that doesn’t have a solid plan for their lives to take the ASVAB, talk to some recruiters and find a MOS that suits your interests and Join. Serve Your Country, you’ll be glad you did.
My friend’s son loved the motor pool. When he got out he opened his own garage.
"if it doesn't grow,pick it up,if you can't move it...paint it". 1968-72,67V2F,RVN,70-71-72. "If you ain't CAV...."
I was in the U.S. Army in the late 86/91, Police call was picking trash around our Area we were eating/training.
Cool got it right, some things never change with Army.
As an NCO, I hated having to be the meatgazer!
I found climbing into a water buffalo to sand and clean the interior before resealing it so it can carry water again . It was damn near impossible. That and sewer clearing , big rats ... not FUN
Being in the field and details didn't bother me at all! I hated the south and the isolation and mind games! I ate so much at KP i got thrown off the detail!😅
Police call is where you and your platoon or group form a horizontal line and walk forward to search for trash brass etc
YOUR CHANNEL SHOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO EVERY PERSON THAT WANTS TO JOIN ANY MILITARY BRANCH.. GOOD JOB CHRIS. I AM ON 91B ARMY
How do you like 91B?
@@adriangonzalez6807 I am on 92Y. Supply specialist.
Easy job.
I was in the Army for 3 years in Germany and I never heard anyone talk as much as you do and say nothing.
💀
More concerned with making that 10 minute mark and getting paid, than informing.
Chris, could you do a video on being station in Alaska Fort Wainwright.
The detail that helps the cooks usually happens at krf in Korea
Police Call: Landscape MX Specialist. Whatever the eye can see, you will maintain.
Every morning after formation you got into a long line and started walking picking up butts paper anything that wasn’t nailed down.
Infantry?? 11B is the best MOS in the Army. I've been other mos but the most fulfilling was definitely 11B.
I agree with you 💯 I was infantry served in Desert Shield/Desert Storm no regrets
Police call probably means Serving Time as Security Guard?
Edit: not even close
No its just picking up trash or brass at the range or like around ur unit
@@kevennunez5482 that's why I edit it
I used to joke around when doing drug tests fill up the bottle and there would be some foam on the top. I would joke nice head just like my beer last night. Ha ha ha
Coming in after 2 weeks in the field going to the wash rack and the whole recovery process.
not as bad as going on deployment and having to completely gi all the vehicles and everything in connexes and bubble wrap everything.
@@golfery5119 did that at reforger 87
@@golfery5119 same with desert storm, meticulous. Load list of connexes had to be spot on.
That's how ft carson was. The dreaded range 145
Another thing mechanics have to worry about is tool accountability, if someone loses a wrench for example or they thought they lost a wrench, no one leaves until that lost tool is found and accounted for.
Nah more like somebody gets charged for a tool that's worth 20 dollars in the civilian world but for some reason the army thinks it's worth 200.
KP duty in the box at NTC is the worst.
Picking cigarette butts, trash, cleaning toilets, and mess cranking, taught how me to appreciate the people who did that stuff in the civilian . It also taught not to be a fucking slob, and shithead.
On Gomer Pyle Sergeant Carter says police the area and you see all the men cleanup watch that when I was a kid and the reality comes everybody's going to Vietnam
All jobs suck until you make rank, everything is based on rank.. SGTs do not pick up cigg butts,or clear the barracks for inspection.. It is all rank based..I am sure after serving 20 years, I do. know as much as our You Tube person.. I must say he is correct.. Again it is all rank related, as A SSG in a military police unit I over watched and was NCIOC in many. Millitary Police drug tests.. i do think the worst job is cooks, Supply and any job for a E3 or below..
Whenever I got tested back in the early 80's, I'd pee all over the bottle as I finished, then lift it up with a big smile to hand it to whomever was watching. "WIPE THAT SHIT OFFA THAT!" was the usual reply, lol.
Police Call SUCKS! It's when you have to line up and go pick-up trash, cigarette butts and such from a designated area targeted to be cleaned...at least that's what recall!
I ALWAYS refused to pick up cigarette butts during a police call. Got chewed out and smoked a couple times for it, never cared. I’d take an article 15 any day
It's universal , I served in the Israeli Army and hated KP duty with a passion. It wasn't so much the cleaning, but the fact that kitchen personnel requested help and then end up superving you while doing nothing. It would drive me nuts.
That was my job. 😀👍
The captain in MEPS: what’s your MOS.
Me: 36B
The captain: well that’s something new...
Me:...
My meps captain asked me my mos and I told him 11x he's like "uh oh get ready to be homeless when you get out"
I looked that up, icky.
Rule number 1: Always have an appointment 😈
E4 Mafia...
KP: knifing potatoes 🥔
I hated being a light weight vehicle mechanic mostly because I didn't know issh, I was in reserves and when we got shipped to Kuwait they paired us with these Pakistanis that couldn't speak english
damn
I'm still looking for frequency grease and the key to the police call area! 😂😅
(Police Call) in military jargon = person or team assigned to call the police when shit hits the fan 😅😂🤣
Dont know what police call is in the Army, but in scouts, its single file line spread out and picking up trash 😅
I always volunteered for detail needed for police call and weed pulling etc....just to get out of the moterpool
I'm planning on becoming a CBRN Specialist (74D) but in the RESERVE though.
@@Muddragon Cool! Good luck!
🗽 Much love from New York City!
In Germany I found out after the fact that a TDY of sorts was supposed to be a "punishment", why I never figured out but anyway, I was attached to the Postal/Mail unit in Frankfurt for the 3 month Christmas Season. I remained billeted in my regular Kaserne and room but was exempt from ALL duties there, no guard duty, no alerts, no details, nothing. The schedule with the Postal Unit was broken up and there was two separate shifts/groups. We worked every other day and every other weekend starting about 6pm until finished unloading, sorting, and reloading trucks with incoming and mail/packages bound for the US, usually done by 10 or 11pm. What really pissed off the NCO that "volunteered" me for this was each and every morning for those 3 months while they were in formation I was headed out the gate in Civies to venture downtown and see the sights, sometimes I returned to my room after formation ended to catch some more sleep. I had an issued "Strasse Pass" so the buses and trains were free for those 3 months also. What a sham job that was but never regretted having done it
Oh and my MOS, when the Army went "digital" in the mid 80s all the equipment AND my MOS were delegated to the Signal Museum at Gordon
On the UPL bit...be wary of Soldiers who get stage fright...waited almost 2 hours for a guy to pee.
Police Call, or as we called it in Ft. Eustis, "Area Beautification", aka picking up trash/cigarette butts. Latrine duty, KP duty and CQ (fire watch). I was an 88H, Cargo Specialist (awesome job BTW), but we had a lot of down time between deployments and training, so Police Call it is. Do Not get injured, you'll have a lot of Police Calls to do.
im a lil lost at words. Yes being a cooked sucked, but let me tell you a bit more as someone who was a cook for 6 years.
It is a lot worst than just bad hours. Being a cook, we operate within our own systems most of the time for standard divisions.
Starting with hours.We do not get days off inbetween days off mid week, Ive never ever had that. We do not have weekends. We do not get holidays. That is only the tip. Weekends are given 1 day off the week , twice a month. It is expected you pull 14 day weeks, before the 1 day off. It is expected you will work full staff day, on weekends, meaning you work from 3am-9pm, the 18 hour shift is to cover the 1 day off for the other shift. Not every one gets that day off. Weeks are the worst and we end up having to staff more people. Saturday is for deep cleaning, Sunday is week prep. Why we do not get weekends, and 1 day off every other weekend, and that is primarily for room cleaning, laundrey, personnel inventory, etc. What is worst is that, if the weekends are mid week from payday + event week. Some sort of holiday or special occasion + the broke soldiers. Now we have to do full work like regular days, while still trying to deep clean, week prep, and inventory. This happens everymonth, and some times 2-3 times, which is basically every weekend.
We have Cast off. So like what was mentioned above. You get 1 day a week every 2 weeks, well expect that to only happen for 4-6 months of the year total. Every few months cooks ETS out, it takes a few months until we get transfers and new cooks. When we have enough cooks to perform 2 full duty shifts, we do what is said above. When we are in the off months, and do not. We are expected to work either 3am-6pm, or 6am-9pm every single day for an unknown lenght. I have gone on 4 month garrison schedule with this. More often than not, new cooks are given to units once the unit is starting to falter. AKA cooks commiting suicide, going AWOL, rampant drug/alochal abuse, and once this travels up the chain enough, they send in the new cooks.
Now here is the rest of the problem, which is mainly focused on how your UNIT treats your cooks. If they are stupid, they will try to force cooks into standard duties. We are still soldiers. Often new commanders, officers, and tryhard non cook NCOs will try this. They get cooks to do PT, as simple as that sounds, is killer on the body. Doing PT then standing on your feet for 10 hours, don't feel good after you do it for 60 days straight. Cooks also do need to do regular check ups, dental, appointments, formations, etc, which is done by the DFAC schedule. Some units will try to do it themselves, and it will rock the DFAC, when half the shift is gone. Everything falls apart. Now you got cooks working until midnight, cooks having to come in at 2 AM for emergency prep. Then those units are dumb enough to still enforce regular meetings and formations, which is escalate things into pure chaos. You got cooks burning themselves because they are half awake, making piss poor food, and basically not giving a fuck. The fact that every day is a time sensitive, and high pressure environement doesn't help. Sure it isn't life threatening, but when your told, if you don't finish all tasks by opening, expect to do a double shift tommorow. That puts a lot of stress and pressue on you, and it is just a downward spiral once you fail once.
Experienced leadership, knows to just leave the cooks alone. We are already stuck in our endless shitty cycle with horrible hours. I use to think the hours weren't that bad, every one has bad hours. Then i got a special detail that lasted 6 months working as gate security, and also food service for the gate personel. I worked normal hours, got up for PT, went to security meetings, then picked up lunch and dinner for the field security on outer gates. I worked mainly regular hours, but got off around 8 everyday. I only worked 4 days a week, since it was a 12 hour work day. I still had to do CQ, HQ, etc. However all of this, I got weekends basically, I got 3day holidays, (I was actually told by my SFC to never show my face at the DFAC or they will force you to work that day, he was looking out for me).
I actually felt like I was in the military, doing regular training, and getting regular hours. That is when I realized, being a cook is complete utter SHIT. You migtht say it nonchallantely that "cooks hate they're job, because bad hours". It isn't just bad hours, its HORRIBLE hours, to the point that we just gave up. We have to lie to ourselves that it isn't so bad. I am returning to service soon, after getting out for 4 years, I only got out, and refused to making NCO rank, because I hated being a cook. I was on the road to E5 before i got that 6 month detail. I realized I was I was just fooling myself saying being a cook isn't that bad. Even when I was trying to reclass, they would not let me change class. They said, I would have to stay as a cook for 1-2 years to wait for schooling. Even when I asked for ANY other MOS. Even when I got out, and was shopping around to re-join a year after I got out, recruiters were telling me, that the Army still wants me to return as a cook. I had to wait 5 years, just so that I can be "out of skill", so that they would let me pick a different MOS. Even then, it was offered a 4k sign in bonus, to skip AIT if I rejoined as a cook, and did on site refresher training.
Cooks have the lowest retention in any MOS. There is a reason why. That job is one of the worst jobs in the military. It is a very important job, but it is the worst. Do I regret being a cook? no. I feel like I can literally do any job now. 20 hour shift? no problem. 60 day work week? no problem. Not getting a bonus, day off, etc. Expected. Would I ever do it again, now that I know better? FUCK NO.
Was a cook for 20years in army retired got jobs as a cook retired at 55
I started basic training when I was 17 and had my 18th birthday there. Drill SGT Graves thought he would give me KP duty for my birthday. Wasn't too bad tho. The cooks made me a cake.
Wash rack detail at JRTC is by far one of the shittiest details… and sandbag duty..
Worst job in the army? Second Lieutenant. Any MOS.
Can you explain?
I was a 15-D and it was 🍰 !!!
Off at 5pm, weekends were mine, stayed on FOBs during deployment.... Civilian in uniform was the order of the day
52 Delta... Or anything else to do with working in the motor pool
Any MOS considered "essential"... I do feel bad for those mechanics when they're pulling 24hr ops - and this is coming from a 92G
I do wonder sometimes how things been if I had have picked 91B which was one of my options. I went with 92G instead and while I hate life I am glad I'm not always in a hot motorpool. It's bad enough spending hours in the cold or hot sun or rain doing connex layouts all day in the motorpool.
I would assume police call would be a MP having to respond to some sort of state issue?
I hate doing kp duty in the field , the dishes were never ending
50 years ago kp was great.You got to smoke mary jane & listen to music on the radio.
My best friend is a LCpl in the Corps and he got sent to a CBRN unit. He says he is proud to do what he does but "It's fucking boring as fuck, I just wanna fire my fucking rifle." Spoken like a true Marine haha.
Semper Fi, Behrmann.
I consider myself lucky to have been a 36 Lima.
Basically AT&T on wheels.
I've been working in the telecommunications and IT industry ever since.
The RSOP section of a PATRIOT Battery always gave the least mission essential soldier the task of taking off their Pro Mask to see if they die from chemical attack. Worst Job an ADA soldier can have.. not only are you useless to everyone, but they are alright on letting you die xD
11C was a rough MOS, infantry with crap promotions.
Peeing in a cup we called it a meat gazer
Police call you just got burned out of your weekend pass because you had to make sure 6th brigade was cigarette butt free or Logan heights was weed free
Any job that doesn't give you a skill when you get out is the worst job in the Army. To all you lifers....you will still be young when you retire and you will have to do something else for 20+ years.
You should do a video on the hardest MOSs in the army
job descriptions more like rank descriptions on days in the rear
Pfc: pick up trash
NCO: meatgaze for four hours
SNCO: spreadsheets