Idk if you caught it or not but Mephiles’ verse was a paradox. At the beginning he says “Came back from the future to tell you the answer’s Mephiles. If you last to the end of this then I’ll ask what the question is.” Then at the end he says “When it comes to villains in the history bins, who’s the one that’s gonna leave you deep Sonic 06’d?”
@@uncle_pepe14 I'd ascribe the term paradox to something that causes itself to happen by a contradiction (killing your own grandpa, etc). Mephiles coming back from the future to answer his own question makes the events self-consistent.
Shwabadi said Chaos was the only Sonic villain besides Eggman he really knew anything about because that was one of his favorite sonic games and he hasn't played many. So he took what he knew and rolled with it. Dan is probably my favorite on here though. His opening with Eggman set the pace for all of them and he went ballistic right off the bat.
@@Monkeybashplush Also non-canon. I mean, just look at how out of character everyone is. Even Infinite feels out of character, and this is his debut game.
@@hokutoroblox9854 No. I generally enjoyed 06. One of the reasons being the variety of characters to play as. Especially Shadow. Any Sonic game that lets you play as as Shadow, I give a default rating of 6/10.
@@legohunter1020 I agree. though the gameplay wasn't that great. The concept was great. Even Silver who got so much hate. I mean... What was wrong with him? He was a Naïve teenager who thought he was doing the right thing until he actually learned the truth. Sonic, Shadow and Silver had their own villains in their own stories which was awesome. Sonic had Eggman, Shadow had Mephiles, and Silver had Iblis (Or Solaris, I can't remember). Sonic never even met Mephiles until he was killed. The Shadow is a given. His character arc was at it's peak then. Actually... I believe every Sonic Character was at their peak in 06. After that, their characters just went down hill like so: Sonic became the main focus for every game afterwards, Is more like a witty Spiderman than what Sonic used to be Shadow lost his resolution from 06, he just became an edgehog because his own game Silver comes out of nowhere and helps just because. They could've at least introduced him back better. They just pushed him aside in the newer games and gave him no spotlight Amy is just there to crush on Sonic, doesn't help at all Tails is a weak crybaby now, Knuckles forgot he was a treasure hunter Rouge is more... She forgot about her Spy work. Omega was made super slow in 06, he was made as a super fast combat robot Cream & Cheese are never seen anywhere anymore Blaze comes out of nowhere just to show up Where'd Espio go? Charmy is Charmy but Charmy...er. Vector shows up for money. Speaking of those three, the Chaotix are a Detective Agency. They don't do that anymore. Metal Sonic gone. Just... Gone. Big is forgotten from what I can tell. Eggman is Eggman but less Eggmany. Is that everyone? I think that's everyone.
Cam coming in as the last was probably my favorite part of this cypher next to Shwabadi's Chaos. Very close second is Zach as Metal. That being said, I still think everyone played their parts very well; we had some real clever lines from both Eggman and Mephiles for sure.
Mephiles and his weird relationship with Shadow was deadass one of the few good parts of Sonic 06' If the whole game had just revolved around them it would have been one of the best games in the franchise storywise (although, lets be real, that bar isn't very high in recent years)
Love the reaction, Kaggy! Also I love how excited you were for the upcoming Sonic content! That's rad and honestly hella wholesome. Oh, yeah, fun fact: that "Speak in a haiku" part at the beginning of Dan's verse? His first three lines were in haiku form. If that's not badass, I dunno what is. Also, the llama bar and the "Ask Shofu" line are shout-outs to Shofu's verse on Scru Face Jean's Worldwide Cypher (which Dan was also part of).
I honestly believe all these Sonic Villains deserve this fire. They all look good, their concept and lore are astounding, and they all had the perfect voice for their role, HOWEVER, most/some of their execution and boss play was poor, and that's what ruined it. But it's the other reason are why I still like them.
I’m with you Kaggy on Sonic Lost World being one of your favorite because it’s my favorite as well. Glad I’m not the only one even though there are others that like the game too.
1. E.G.G.M.A.N. does in fact still go hard. That was the first song I ever downloaded on itunes and it’s still on my main playlist. 2. It is physically impossible for Liam O’Brien to not give a masterclass performance.
This was fire, I almost forgot about this cypher..lol, but man, I know you probably know already as a fan of ChiChi, but you have to watch the Evil Ladies of Anime Cypher when you get a chance..haha, it was so good, and you seemed to be digging the first one so I'm sure you'll like the second one.
I feel like people forget Mephiles is Solaris, look I get Mephiles is a great villain but he's a half of the Sun God, that form would never have happened if Mephiles didnt sink into Shadow's shadow but it was a different form before that iconic one and Mephiles didnt have a form, his birth when the Duke split the Sun God had him a black ooze and so wasn't that then he was sucked into the Sceptor of Darkness and we see him when released, that black trail was him because it wasn't cinematic but at the end of Shadow's Story, we see that iconic form melt into his original form. I'm not sure if everyone knows this and always knew but I'm saying this anyway because I doubt it.
So the context of Sonic.Exe being in the cypher is because Cam posted a tweet asking which villain should he add to the cypher and the first response was Sonic.exe and the thing that makes it funny the guy said it as a joke
Hm Well for one Mephiles deserves his cred more than Infinite or Zavik could ever even imagine And two Uh Who wants to tell him Exe has been officially recognized by Sonic team on multiple occasions...? He might as well be cannon at this point! And God be damned that "AND I'LL KILL THE VIEWER IF YOU DON'T SUBSCRIBE!!!" 4th wall break bar from my boi himself still hits so fuckin hard!
Mephiles is not that bad of a character he's literally the only character that killed sonic it took 3 super hedgehogs to kill him at the end also it's not mephiles it's the game that sucks
Personally, I’m expecting a Godzilla vs Kong scenario. They’re hyping up the fight between Sonic and Knuckles but then they’ll drop metal as the final villain of the movie 😂
“If you last till the end of this then I’ll ask what the question is” “Who’s the one that’s gonna leave you deep Sonic 0 sixxed” “Came back from the future to tell you the answer’s Mephiles
The only reason I’d like to see 06 in a potential Sonic 4 movie is because of Mephiles. I wouldn’t care if the movie wasn’t faithful to the game as long as long as we get him in a movie (not Sonic 3).
I keep going into these videos thinking their something else but then I go into the videos and when he says it’s a rap video I always go “god damn it” and exit the video. Unfortunately the switch doesn’t show the full title of the video if it’s as long as this one, it cuts of at the word villains before clicking on the video for me just in case someone was gonna say something about that.
sonic 06 is bad, not gonna say it isn´t. But mephiles and like the story in general is one of the only not terrible things, (the story) it´s actually nice (along the music)
Sonic.exe and metal sonic killed it. There lyrics are just pure brutality and violence for the fun of it. "Show you all who the devil is" "I'll kill the viewer if you dont subscribe". Thats the kinda shit that legitimately scares old people and children. If i become a rapper at some point, my goal will be to make people think i might actually be a serial killer.
"They call it evil"
"I call it benevolence"
"Soon you'll all know"
"Who the devil is"
THESE LINES JUST BANG
By the end I'll show you all who the devil is!
Idk if you caught it or not but Mephiles’ verse was a paradox.
At the beginning he says “Came back from the future to tell you the answer’s Mephiles. If you last to the end of this then I’ll ask what the question is.” Then at the end he says “When it comes to villains in the history bins, who’s the one that’s gonna leave you deep Sonic 06’d?”
Wouldn't that just be a stable time loop?
Also after his first line he said "If you last to the end of this then I'll what the question is"
@@ReeseChloris1 thx I forgot to add it before
@@ultimamage3 iirc a stable time loop would be an ontological paradox.
@@uncle_pepe14 I'd ascribe the term paradox to something that causes itself to happen by a contradiction (killing your own grandpa, etc). Mephiles coming back from the future to answer his own question makes the events self-consistent.
Shwabadi said Chaos was the only Sonic villain besides Eggman he really knew anything about because that was one of his favorite sonic games and he hasn't played many. So he took what he knew and rolled with it. Dan is probably my favorite on here though. His opening with Eggman set the pace for all of them and he went ballistic right off the bat.
You got me blushing between this and the trainer cypher reaction ☺️ thanks man!
Mephiles is easily my favorite villain. Man was just pure evil and actually succeeded at his goal. But he was stuck in rushed (but not bad) game.
Infinite and Chaos tied for first.
Dan Green did amazing job voicing Mephiles in that God awful game.
Really that is cool although I don’t like them but I see that they are underrated
@@legohunter1020 true chaos was scary in sonic x
They all KINGS OF EVIL in their own way
Kaggy: “Get this non canon shit out of here”
Me: “Ok, now we got problems he is my favorite.”
If it makes you feel better, I've always considered Zavok to be non-canon.
Thanks. I guess.
@@ModernAegis what about sonic forces?
@@Monkeybashplush Also non-canon. I mean, just look at how out of character everyone is. Even Infinite feels out of character, and this is his debut game.
@@ModernAegis yeah sonic forces is worst then 06 in my opinion
Okay but let's be honest. Infinite had SO much potential to be a dark/badass villain and they beyond wasted it
Expectation: Beerus
Reality: Z Broly
Mephiles absolutely deserves respect. Dope villain, shit game.
06 wasn't that bad. Messy in few areas but the story made up for it.
7/10
@@legohunter1020 What.... you're kidding right?
*right?*
@@hokutoroblox9854 No. I generally enjoyed 06. One of the reasons being the variety of characters to play as. Especially Shadow.
Any Sonic game that lets you play as as Shadow, I give a default rating of 6/10.
@@legohunter1020 I agree. though the gameplay wasn't that great. The concept was great. Even Silver who got so much hate. I mean... What was wrong with him? He was a Naïve teenager who thought he was doing the right thing until he actually learned the truth.
Sonic, Shadow and Silver had their own villains in their own stories which was awesome. Sonic had Eggman, Shadow had Mephiles, and Silver had Iblis (Or Solaris, I can't remember). Sonic never even met Mephiles until he was killed.
The Shadow is a given. His character arc was at it's peak then. Actually... I believe every Sonic Character was at their peak in 06. After that, their characters just went down hill like so:
Sonic became the main focus for every game afterwards, Is more like a witty Spiderman than what Sonic used to be
Shadow lost his resolution from 06, he just became an edgehog because his own game
Silver comes out of nowhere and helps just because. They could've at least introduced him back better. They just pushed him aside in the newer games and gave him no spotlight
Amy is just there to crush on Sonic, doesn't help at all
Tails is a weak crybaby now,
Knuckles forgot he was a treasure hunter
Rouge is more... She forgot about her Spy work.
Omega was made super slow in 06, he was made as a super fast combat robot
Cream & Cheese are never seen anywhere anymore
Blaze comes out of nowhere just to show up
Where'd Espio go?
Charmy is Charmy but Charmy...er.
Vector shows up for money.
Speaking of those three, the Chaotix are a Detective Agency. They don't do that anymore.
Metal Sonic gone. Just... Gone.
Big is forgotten from what I can tell.
Eggman is Eggman but less Eggmany.
Is that everyone? I think that's everyone.
@@kainura1681 Was Tikal or Cosmo in a Sonic game before? Or were they just in Sonic X?
Cam coming in as the last was probably my favorite part of this cypher next to Shwabadi's Chaos. Very close second is Zach as Metal. That being said, I still think everyone played their parts very well; we had some real clever lines from both Eggman and Mephiles for sure.
Mephiles and his weird relationship with Shadow was deadass one of the few good parts of Sonic 06'
If the whole game had just revolved around them it would have been one of the best games in the franchise storywise (although, lets be real, that bar isn't very high in recent years)
Love the reaction, Kaggy! Also I love how excited you were for the upcoming Sonic content! That's rad and honestly hella wholesome.
Oh, yeah, fun fact: that "Speak in a haiku" part at the beginning of Dan's verse? His first three lines were in haiku form. If that's not badass, I dunno what is. Also, the llama bar and the "Ask Shofu" line are shout-outs to Shofu's verse on Scru Face Jean's Worldwide Cypher (which Dan was also part of).
I honestly believe all these Sonic Villains deserve this fire. They all look good, their concept and lore are astounding, and they all had the perfect voice for their role, HOWEVER, most/some of their execution and boss play was poor, and that's what ruined it. But it's the other reason are why I still like them.
Infinite had the potential to be one of the best villains but it was ruined
@@metalhopper0188 True!
@@metalhopper0188 I think he has really good after all his existens is Shadows fault.
@@Zero_de_Nova he had so much potentiol and seeing a hero create a villain is cool but the execution was lacking.
@@dr.rodabthicc Sadly, your right! But hey, everybody shoud get a second chance in a aonther Game..(being good or evil).
You should react to the Supernova cypher, since I know you love the Wano Arc.
I’m with you Kaggy on Sonic Lost World being one of your favorite because it’s my favorite as well. Glad I’m not the only one even though there are others that like the game too.
Me too I was so thankful I feel like it gets to hated.
1. E.G.G.M.A.N. does in fact still go hard. That was the first song I ever downloaded on itunes and it’s still on my main playlist.
2. It is physically impossible for Liam O’Brien to not give a masterclass performance.
Me:Chaos and metal do deserve it
Mephilas: ..... but I killed him
YES SIR! THE RAP CYPHER REACTION THAT I'VE BEEN WAITING!
This was fire, I almost forgot about this cypher..lol, but man, I know you probably know already as a fan of ChiChi, but you have to watch the Evil Ladies of Anime Cypher when you get a chance..haha, it was so good, and you seemed to be digging the first one so I'm sure you'll like the second one.
3:45 well the second sonic movie is based on the second and third games and metal was introduced in the second game soo YEAH!!!!!!
"This (Sonic.exe) isn't canon!"
A villain is still a villain, canon or not
Baby Vegeta, Super 17 and Omega agrees.
Still, get this shit out of his face!
Thank you for making a point!, DBZ Broly is nodding
@@theofficialrift5439 so is Slug, Garlic Jr, Janemba, Hyundagarn and Cooler.
@@legohunter1020 That's different.
Sonic EXE is fanmade.
Non-canon implies that it is official.
I feel like people forget Mephiles is Solaris, look I get Mephiles is a great villain but he's a half of the Sun God, that form would never have happened if Mephiles didnt sink into Shadow's shadow but it was a different form before that iconic one and Mephiles didnt have a form, his birth when the Duke split the Sun God had him a black ooze and so wasn't that then he was sucked into the Sceptor of Darkness and we see him when released, that black trail was him because it wasn't cinematic but at the end of Shadow's Story, we see that iconic form melt into his original form.
I'm not sure if everyone knows this and always knew but I'm saying this anyway because I doubt it.
good to see this is here.... but what bout jojo XD
I love scared but still dancing Kaggy at the end 😂
So the context of Sonic.Exe being in the cypher is because Cam posted a tweet asking which villain should he add to the cypher and the first response was Sonic.exe and the thing that makes it funny the guy said it as a joke
You still gotta see Cam’s Pokémon Rivals and Professors Cyphers, and Rustage’s Supernova Cypher
"I have always been the one that u should never meddle with" is an amazing line
All I gotta say is FINALLY and I hope you enjoyed.
Hm
Well for one Mephiles deserves his cred more than Infinite or Zavik could ever even imagine
And two
Uh
Who wants to tell him Exe has been officially recognized by Sonic team on multiple occasions...? He might as well be cannon at this point! And God be damned that "AND I'LL KILL THE VIEWER IF YOU DON'T SUBSCRIBE!!!" 4th wall break bar from my boi himself still hits so fuckin hard!
I've been waiting for Kaggy to react to this. Let's goooo!!!
FINALLY I'VE BEEN WAITING FIR THIS FOR SO LONG!! TwT
You better do a cover for eggman now. You mentioned it XD
Mephiles is not that bad of a character he's literally the only character that killed sonic it took 3 super hedgehogs to kill him at the end also it's not mephiles it's the game that sucks
Make my day King KAGGY!!!
I was waiting for this for so long
favorite cypher thus far!
Personally, I’m expecting a Godzilla vs Kong scenario. They’re hyping up the fight between Sonic and Knuckles but then they’ll drop metal as the final villain of the movie 😂
Been waiting for this!!!
FINALLY MY GOD TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH, FINALLY!!!
I love how he didn’t even realize cam didn’t rap until the end XD
Waited 4 months for this.
Worth it.
“If you last till the end of this then I’ll ask what the question is”
“Who’s the one that’s gonna leave you deep Sonic 0 sixxed”
“Came back from the future to tell you the answer’s Mephiles
All villains deserve this fire
I’ve been waiting for this for so long
About damn time
I miss this so much
This was a good reaction.
Cam's verse is one of the main reasons why I subbed
He's finally here for it
I just got this video to 3,700 likes! Keep up the good work!
Man Kaggy I love your Cypher reactions hope you do Cam's among us cypher this one was just hilarious and captured the among us vibe
Still on of my favorite Cyphers done by Cam IMO.
"I love Sonic Lost World"
That sir earned a sub from me
Kaggy at the end of the video:im not having night mares tonight
Me:sonic exe would like a word with you ^^
I mean to be fair, isn't mephiles the only villain in the cypher that actually managed to kill sonic?
Kaggy I'm gonna cry I'm so happy you're back to Nerdcore
i was waiting for this reaction
The only reason I’d like to see 06 in a potential Sonic 4 movie is because of Mephiles. I wouldn’t care if the movie wasn’t faithful to the game as long as long as we get him in a movie (not Sonic 3).
I keep going into these videos thinking their something else but then I go into the videos and when he says it’s a rap video I always go “god damn it” and exit the video.
Unfortunately the switch doesn’t show the full title of the video if it’s as long as this one, it cuts of at the word villains before clicking on the video for me just in case someone was gonna say something about that.
The entire comment section would like to have a word of you dissing Mephiles near the end there.
Bro I finally understand Mephiles verses
cool vid. also just FYI Kaggy, your subscription notification should be updated. Keep up the good work
When I first saw Cam do the verse for Sonic.EXE I'm like
"No fucking shot!" and I actually bopped to the beat :D
sonic 06 is bad, not gonna say it isn´t. But mephiles and like the story in general is one of the only not terrible things, (the story) it´s actually nice (along the music)
8:00 Kaggy don’t lie, when that verse comes, I have nightmares too…
Sonic.exe and metal sonic killed it. There lyrics are just pure brutality and violence for the fun of it. "Show you all who the devil is" "I'll kill the viewer if you dont subscribe". Thats the kinda shit that legitimately scares old people and children. If i become a rapper at some point, my goal will be to make people think i might actually be a serial killer.
3:46 I heard that there was a leak about metal sonic in sonic 2 but I'm not sure
i dont even care sonic.exe was a fcking banger to put in and the way he came in was fcking hot and the destruction in his voice man
100th episode of journeys bringing back you and new Gen announced. We need a Pokémon day reaction from our Galar Champion
Road to a million!!
I think the rap was made for the Sonic Villains fanfilm, but I could be wrong
Check out Kim studies rival rap cipher and his professor rap cypher both are awesome
Sonic.EXE is actually canon now, it was confirmed. Also Zach's name is pronounced "Boo-Shay".
Nice my only regret is that I didn't watch it sooner
I love Sonic too Bro
4:47-4:53 I ran off like VIDEO DONE HE JUST STOPPED THE RAP ITS OVER THAT BAR WAS SET HIGH LIKE DAMN....my whole house is on fire
........Alright I LOVE Mephiles, so ouch.
You also missed the professor cypher
Nefeles is one of the best written villains Sonic history
Dan Bull is a legit menace.
~_~
Is Sonic 3 is coming out then I definitely want to see Metal Sonic and Chaos 0 appear on screen
Anyway my favorite 3 character's rapping skills are Sonic Exe,Metal Sonic and Infinite the Jackal
Why do I feel like this man never even bothered to listen to the lyrics
Mephiles deserves no dis. Only villain to do the one thing Eggman couldn't: Kill Sonic.
Infinite could've done that but eggman told him not to
At first i thought the final rap part was gonna be with the Time eater from Generations, but when Sonic.EXE rolled up i was just so hyped
the evil ladies of anime rap is sooo good
Just found out the kaggy voices miyamura form horimiya
Dan Bull, how dare you,
You bring up haikus, but,
It's snowing on Mt. Fuji.
If we’re technically speaking, sonic.exe IS canon. Cuz he appears in one of the older comics.
Technically, that would just make him canon to those comics, like Enerjak being canon, but not to the games
Also, do you know which comic he appeared in?
Yes is Canon now
Kaggy you need to react to Rustages rengoku rap call Over For You
Mate we will defintly get him in sonic 3 though
Kaggy please react fate rap cypher please 🥺
Gonna need Metal Sonic first then Chaos and then Shadow
Yesssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think that they're keeping Metal as a secret for Sonic 2, Kaggs.
BUT HEY, THAT'S JUST A THEORY...
I just realized he has a little Leon
Love your videos
Guess Metal knew about exe after all by the end of we saw who the devil is
Damn Kaggy! U didn’t have to do Infinite like that! (Lol) U didn’t lie, doe!! Shadow is my Fav so…😂
Is kaggy gonna keep wearing those egg goggles
This is way overdue