How to use the Coloplast Sensura Mio Click 2pc coupling and lock
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2017
- If you're having trouble connecting the bag and wafer of the Coloplast Sensura Mio Click 2pc system then you aren't alone!
In this video, I show how to connect the 2pc system and how to use the locking mechanism.
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I wanted to say thank you so much because I have always used Hollister products and until recently had no problems but for the last 6 months I've had nothing but problems with Hollister flanges. I got samples of This product from Colonplast and oh my God it is like a whole different ball game. it's a little more expensive but it lasts longer. and I was having a hard time connecting it but thank you for the tip now I have no problems. thank you you're doing a great service 👍
Glad you found something better for you😃👌 Thanks for watching.
I've been having problems with the Hollister too - good to know it's not just me.
I love my 2 piece Sensura Mio Flex, but after leaking (night time only) I realized I required a high output bag. They only make it for the click system, and it confuses me. Your videos are so helpful, and are greatly appreciated.
Just want to thank you for your vids buddy, they really help my mum .
+BUSHCRAFT AND FISHING WITH THE PIKEY Glad I could help. :-)
Thank you, thank you for that very clear demonstration of how this somewhat confusing coupling works. It's all new to me and I really appreciate any advice at all. So far this is the first appliance that has not leaked on me...48 hours currently and we live in hope.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you! Yours is the only resource I could find that shows how to unlock it! I've seen practically all of your videos, they've been SO helpful.
Glad it helped 👋😊
Thank you. The "how to unlock" part was the only thing that you hadn't covered, so I'm really glad that you're showing it now.🤭
TX FOR YOUR VIDEO, I am a stomaltherapist, Pretoria South Africa and use your video as part of product training.❤
That's wonderful to hear! All the best, from Canada 👋
I'm so glad that you show us so many products. My husband changed jobs and our new insurance does not cover my supplies. We thought we were going to have to get used to all new products. Luckily he found out that if my doctor writes a prescription for the ones I am using, the insurance has to,cover them. We just have to order them online instead of picking them up in town.
+Angel For Animals That's great. It bothers me that there would be any situation where a patient can't get ostomy supplies covered.
Vegan Ostomy ~ I was a bit scared at first. It's not like anyone who needs these supplies can go without them.
I know how you feel. For me, buying 2 boxes without insurance cost me the same as 9 boxes with insurance.
Jerry Kerns ~ we ran into more snags and I was getting worried. It's crazy to think that an insurance wouldn't want to supply what we need. My husbands company had major lay offs and after almost 20 years, he was one to be laid off. He got a new job, but at half the wages he was making before so there is no way we could afford to,pay for my supplies. Well, I guess if we didn't ever eat again we could lol finally after over a month we got things straightened out and my supplies will be covered again. I hope none of us ever faces a time when we have to go without. I was seriously considering getting this reversed and that was causing me stress because I am 53 years old and all I could think of was being older and having to have that surgery again in my 60s because my Crohns has never been in remission fir the 17 years that I have had it and I would probably end up getting a bag again at some point. I'll just keep,praying that all of us who have to have these bags, never have to struggle to get our supplies. ✌️❤️✌️P.S. sorry to ramble about stuff, it's just all so stressful to think about.
Good to know - Thanks! The samples of these come on Friday and I've got a good feeling about them!
I had a click system 17 years ago on first iliostome. But this system defeats me!!!
I tried a base plate and bag to practice. But removing bag totally eluded me. Thanks for videos. Still going to need practicing but I need total independence so I can put used bag in a bag into a bucket. Should add I am paraplegic and in a nursing home with minimal staff. The stoma team won’t like volume of bags used but hey ho they didn’t17 yrs ago either. Thank You for videos.
Juliette
Thanks for watching, Juliette. Cheers to independence! 👏
Thank you for posting this. Ive just started using these bags, and im fine putting it on , but couldnt figure out how to separate it again shouls i need to
I definitely find this a studier coupling (which I like because it feels more secure). The 'bottom-up' approach seems to be the one Coloplast recommend (although it feels like common sense to me, as doing it that way means it'll 'catch' anything in case the stoma decides to be active while you're putting on the pouch). Another awesome vid as always
+Thaila Skye When I was a new ostomate I snapped the top part together then worked my way down.... Having a bag come off as I was walking ensured that I did it "bottom-up". LOL. But also, with the Mio click that coupling will uncouple if both hands aren't pressing down on both sides.
Just got the samples in the mail and was like I need to find a RUclips video. Thank you for this.
Awesome! I hope they work well for you!
I just started using this appliance!! It cleared up a rash I've had for over a year now!! So thankful for it.
That's great to hear!!
There are some ointments and sprays ostomy patients can use for rashes. Unfortunately, that was one of the thing my insurance wouldn't cover.
Thanks so much for yr videos on this product, its been a massive help for me learning how to use it for my mother.
You're welcome, Josephine. I hope that you and your mom are doing well.👍
I've been using Coloplast for 4 years now. I do like their products. I choose to go with the one piece system because I had too many times when the pouch pulled off even though it was locked. I don't have a great deal of confidence in the 2 piece systems. Not a great feeling when you are grocery shopping and you bump into the cart pulling the pouch off. I stopped here to refresh my knowledge on how to use the two piece since I'm between jobs without insurance and had to fall back to using the 2 piece systems I had in storage to stretch my supply out till I'm insured again.
Insurance woes really suck! When you had problems with the 2pc detaching, was it on their older systems or the newer Mio's? I've tried my best to separate a locked bag from a wafer and I've ended up tearing it without getting them separated. But it's possible that older systems weren't as secure or there was some other fault in the appliance (i.e. the flange was bent before using it and lost its integrity).
Have you considered looking at other brands to save money? I've tested some of the newer Securi-T products (Genairex brand) and they did work pretty well for me but are waaaay cheaper than major brand appliances.
Last time I used the 2 piece was 4 years ago so I'm guessing it was the older system. I had times where I just stood up from my desk and caught the top of the appliance on the underside of the desk and yanked it off. I do prefer the one piece since I have a hernia, it stands out less. Unfortunately, until I get insurance again, I will need to switch to the 2 piece since I can use each of they over a longer period of time.
Thank You so much for the information. We currently use Hollister products because that's what they gave us in the hospital. But Coloplast was kind enough to send samples. We haven't tried them yet as we're still learning what we have. But again Thank You.
You've got a lot of options :) If neither Coloplast or Hollister don't end up working for you, you can request samples from other companies. Good luck!
@@VeganOstomy Thank You so much my friend. We actually have received so much from both. The one thing we are learning is what works best for us. Regardless of product. Trial and error I guess. This is to us a life altering change but we're managing. I know and understand we aren't the first but when it's Your first it can be unnerving. But great folks like you being honest with us and telling stuff learned, helps so much! Thank You!
Trial and error will bring long-term results, so it is a process we should all embrace. Even when you settle on something, new products come out over the years that also might be worth looking at. All the best 👍
Thank You. I have a question. We are having insurance issues now about what is covered product wise. It's causing a delay in our reorder. No worries. But my question is are you aware or do you have any experience with interchanging among different brands? Again Thank You for the information.
I only use the mio click now. Took practice to get it clicked together but now it is pretty easy
Thanks for the tip - however we are currently using these as samples, and really like it with having the 2 LTR bag... I will follow these directions but the way you are doing it without being on the skin already is easy, but doing it on the skin is a little different not as easy.
It should be easy when it's on the skin. That's how I'd normally connect a 2pc system. I was only showing it off the skin on video because it was easier that way. If you have trouble snapping the bag to the wafer, wet the flange with a little bit of water and see if that helps. Good luck!
cool, thanks for the vid. I think I'm going to call them up and ask to sample this tomorrow.
I called them up for a sample once. Then I couldn't get them to stop calling me 3 times a day for 6 months. I like the product, didn't like the telephone stalking.
just got these to try looks good , great to watch the video to help. thanks meg
Thanks for watching, Meg! 😀😀
Thank you, very helpful!
Is the 40 mm Flange any less secure than the 50 mm Flange. I have a 1 inch stom.
Great question. Generally speaking, the larger the wafer, the more secure it can be since there's more surface area to hold onto skin. This is why I find that 1pc systems are better than 2pc systems, as they come in pretty large sizes. However, there is a trade-off with going with a larger wafer: many will find it less comfortable, and it can sometimes overlap your belly button, scars, belly hair, etc. My suggestion would be to find the wafer that's best suited to your stoma size. At 1" (25mm), your stoma would be fine with either size.
You see how you have your fingers on either side? When it's actually on the body, there's no way to get fingers behind it to snap it. I like the idea of their product, but man I had a very difficult time getting it snapped. Same with ConvoTec.
100% correct. You need to press on the flange to get it to snap, which isn't easy for everyone. It is more difficult than doing it on "floating flange" systems. You can try wetting the flange with water to see if helps to lubricate it.
Then Why not show us how it works when the wafer is already on the body, where it is most likely to be used.
+jimvoorhees I'm not using this appliance anymore, but I do show how the 2pc appliance snaps together while on my skin in the "how to change an ostomy appliance video. I could do more" real world" demonstrations if enough people are interested in it. 👍
Thank you for this!! I ordered 50mm flange and 50mm ( opening) bags and they're not compatible?? Whats the size difference so bag clicks over flange...50/60 or ???
You rock bro!!
Do you know which model numbers you ordered? Coloplast lists "baseplate hole size" and "coupling size". You'll want to make sure the coupling size matches the coupling size on the bag. The baseplate hole size is the size of the hole that your stoma goes through. Sounds like the 50mm opening you ordered is the wrong number.
hiya! Thank you for this, can anyone that uses this system how often does one need to reply the bit that goes on to the skin? does it need to be changed everyday, a couple of days? thank you
Hi Christina, if youre referring to the wafer/baseplate, then changing it will very from person to person. I do have another video that might help: ruclips.net/video/VUAlY3uO4aE/видео.html
I can not get the pouch and wafer to line up. I don't know what I am doing wrong. This is regarding the sensura Mio click. I had my colostomy in 4 months ago. I had emergency surgery by the best trauma surgeons in Dallas so I had no time to prepare. Just watching your videos an trying to learn. Maybe I am not ready for a 2 piece. Thank you for all the wonderful videos.
Hi Sandy, the Mio has a locking coupling system. Please check to make sure that the lock is unlocked before lining it up again. They won't snap together if the coupling is in the locked position. Once it's on you can snap it back. Is it easy to line up and snap together when it's off your body or is it still difficult? Also, while rare, it's entirely possible that you have two different sizes between the bag and wafer. Please also check to make sure they are the same size.
Do both pieces come with click blue or do I have to order a barrier ring separately? Thank you
With the two piece, the wafer and bag are usually sold separately. The "click" portion is built into the bag.
If you decide to use a barrier ring (which is different from a wafer), then those are also purchased separately and not always needed.
do you change and put a new back on or do you need to remove both. I'm not sure of design? what's the purpose of the click?
The click coupling is just something that Coloplast uses. Some brands have a "Tupperware" style snap to attach the bag to the wafer. Some people prefer the click style because it wont accidently come apart, but most bags shouldnt come off unless you intend for them to. You can change just the bag, but many people change the bag and wafer at the same time. It's a matter of personal preference.
My husband has had leaking problems from his coloplast 15521 so I’ve been given the SenSura Mio 2 piece & a one piece to try. (Convex). She said he should use the belt. My question is how to put this on!! I can’t see how it sticks on him!!! Also how does the belt go on? I’ve been taking care of it for 5 months since he wasn’t able. Im going to teach him now. He’s coming home for the first time tomorrow ! I hope I hear from you very soon!
Hi Judy, are you looking for instruction on how to put on the support belt or the appliance?
Only the 2pc will have a belt attachment, but you'll need the Brava Belt to fit the Mio specifically since it has four attachment points instead of two: products.coloplast.us/coloplast/ostomy-care/brava/belt/brava-belt-for-sensura-mio/
Best of luck!
@@VeganOstomy I found from one of your videos the inside inserts for the belt on the 1 piece #16716 sensura mio. Now I need to know for the sample of the 2 pc #16491 , how it goes on! ( the belt works for it the same way it looks like). The part that goes on him first has me confused! I’m use to the 1 piece. Is there a video on this particular one? I’m just hoping this stops his leaking! (Both SenSura Mio). I can send a pic if I know where. The Ostomy nurse told me the 2 pc was # 16491 but I don’t see that number. I see up at the top underneath 12283. . ??
How to put the appliance on. I’ve never put a 2 pc on. I think this is # 12283. (Convex). Not 16491.
The part you listed #12283 is an adhesive coupling system, not the traditional plastic coupling. Your wafer and bag both need to be compatible with the adhesive coupling system to work right.
My suggestion would be to give Coloplast a call, as they'd be able to give you the appropriate part numbers to match what you have. You do not use a belt with those adhesive coupling products.
I personally don't use adhesive 2pc systems because they aren't as easy to put on.
@@VeganOstomy what’s the largest convex appliance? His stoma is oval. He’s lost a lot of weight & the type he was using isn’t lying flat enough on his skin I don’t think. He puts out a lot. (On the thick side usually )He’s having to be changed too often right now. I’ve got to get this figured out! Thanks for your help.
Is there any suitable means to make the base plate more sticky and adherence with body in addition to adhesive of the base plate ? plz reply.
Heat and pressure. Before removing the plastic liner, I usually rub the wafer between my hands until it is warm, then I place it onto my skin and hold it in place with gentle pressure for about a minute.
I bought a really small heating pad to warm my flange and ring barriers while I’m preparing the rest of my set up. It’s worked out super well!
Great idea!
Use a blow dryer on the lower setting. Works like a charm every time.
I hear the Sensura Mio Click can be easily rotated from a horizontal to vertical position. Do you have a video/can you make a video demonstrating this? Thanks!
Hey there. I don't have a video on rotating the Mio specifically, but I do have a special note for Mio users who are having difficulties getting their appliance to rotate: www.veganostomy.ca/rotate-ostomy-bag/#Bonus_Tip_for_Coloplast_Sensura_Mio_Click
I can’t seem to get this to work. Your video assumes you can go under the barrier and push bag and barrier together. I’m switching from Convatec and I finally got the bag and barrier connected. How I have no clue. I have a squishy stomach. I pushed and pushed and it simply wouldn’t connect. It did finally but I have no idea how. The click thing was no problem.
With the locking ring in the unlocked position, it should click without much effort.
But, if you do need an easier appliance to connect the 2pc, then both Hollister and Convatec will give you an easier solution 👍 Good luck!
when you say line them up then start from the bottom... does the ring on the bag go inside the ring on the base plate... I just received them as a sample and would like to use as I am not a big fan of the Hollister and that is what I was sent home with..Thank you
Yes, there would be a channel on the wafer end that the bag's coupling would go into - press that in starting from the bottom and work your way up. Hollister makes quite a few styles of bags/wafers, so the one you were given in the hospital might be their "cheap" option. Good luck with everything!
you show the bag being easy to rotate when installed i tried and couldnt move the bag it seems to stick in the coupler.i enxed up ripping the flange off how do i make the coupler easier to rotate?
The mio is tricky to rotate using the usual method I outline in this video: ruclips.net/video/37T1M8zMLXs/видео.html however, there is a way to do it as explained in this article: www.veganostomy.ca/rotate-ostomy-bag/#Bonus_Tip_for_Coloplast_Sensura_Mio_Click
Thank you for this video. Seems so simple the unlocking process but today is first time using one and hadn't figured out how to unlock it so I appreciate this video. Are you able to then 'burp' the bag like the other two piece systems? I'm hoping this appliance works for me as I like the features of it. Was using a Hollister two piece but kept having leakage around my naval and have had to change my appliance once a day for the last two days and today I had to do it twice so think I'm done with that brand.
No, burping the Mio from the coupling is not recommended as it can be risky.
Thank.you very much. l would like to know is it necessary to unlock the lock before coupling the pouch with the base plate ?
Yes, with Coloplast 2-PC systems it's necessary to lock or unlock before coupling.
Vegan Ostomy l have seen that it is easier to couple without unlocking the lock in pouch, it is fit smoothly without opening the lock, isn't it ?
Some Coloplast systems won't even fit unless you unlock it. But if it works for you, go with that. I believe the Mio's flange is more flexible than previous models, so it's probably easier to do it without unlocking them.
Why do you prefer this bag for stealth belt wear?
+Craig Matteocci I don't necessarily prefer this one over something like the Hollister two piece, but Coloplast two piece systems tend to be easy to rotate. That makes them more suited to using with a support band horizontally.
Question, In the video it appears as though you have rotated the lock ring so that the blue tab faces out (away from your stomach). They do not come like this and I was wondering if you have a video showing how to flip the ring. Thanks. Maybe also a post on your website with pictures of the before and after the flip.
Thanks
Hey Josh, I haven't done anything to the ring lock! What item number are you using? Perhaps there's a difference between skus?
Vegan Ostomy
So when I look at any product in the sensura mio click line they all have the blue facing the flange and not the bag. Take 11472 as an example. Or look at this link to Coloplast even their pics have the blue to the flange. www.coloplast.ca/sensura-mio-click-drainable-en-ca.aspx. Is it possible your supplier is flipping them around?
Mystery solved! Coloplast has two styles of Mio pouches : wide outlet and narrow outlet. Depending on which one you have, the tab will be reversed. Check out this side-by-side photo: www.veganostomy.ca/sensura-mio-ileostomy-overview/#Locking_Mechanism_on_two-piece_systems
Is it necessary to position the wafer as shown, with that tab at the top? Or is it okay to flip it so the tab is on the side? My bellybutton is getting in the way... :-)
It's not necessary to keep the locking tab on the top, provided it's not being squished or pressed on by clothing (or it may unlock!).
I meant the tab on the edge of the adhesive, so the oval shape of the sticky part would be elongated up and down instead of sideways. I tried it and it seems to be working okay... but now the belt won't work...lol
@@AriZoney1Ah, now I know what you mean. Yeah, that'll be a challenge if you need the belt, too. One other tip might be to cut the hole in the back off the wafer offset, so it's positioned away from your bellybutton. You won't have much room to move it, but it might be enough.
Thanks for nice information
You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
@@VeganOstomy good morning God bless you
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Ok I am going to try warm up I am new ostomite learnings different pouch I like the material the cloroplast
It's always a learning experience, so keep asking questions if you are stuck. Have a great weekend.
How am I able to clean it without taking it off ???
The drainable version is meant to be emptied without removing the bag. Depending on how you empty it, you could also rinse it out, but be sure not to get the filter wet on the inside of the bag.
Thank u very much ! My aunt has this and we are currently trying to learn about it 😀
I have hard time to stick the wafer into my skin it is hard material. How can soften up?
What wafer are you using?
The one you showed in this video
@@almazmengistu8400 The Mio shouldn't be a hard material - this one is very soft. Normally, you would peel the backing and when you apply the wafer you'll want to apply pressure and heat (usually from your hands) to get a good stick.
Eric I have a question about the SenSura Mio 1-piece. It will not stick to my skin no matter what I try. Is there a different pouch that has the same features as the Mio 1-piece but has better adhesive. I want drainable, 1-piece, no filter (if possible) and the smallest pouch. The one I have is the Midi size and it’s perfect. Thanks for your time!
My trouble is also when it’s on the skin because you can’t push from the back
It certainly is more difficult to get this appliance to snap together when the wafer is on your skin. Other manufacturers like Hollister and ConvaTec offer a “floating flange”, which makes it considerably easier, but that would involve switching to a different appliance.
Me gustaría que me explicaran en español
how to wear this bag
+gaurav saha I have a review video for this product or you can see my appliance change video for basic instructions.
Each ostomy bag I've worn so far has been unlocked....I feel dumb now
No, no, no! Don't be hard on yourself! You found the answer to a problem you were having 👏
not so easy when wafer is attached to your body , matter of fact i couldnt even click it as the video showed
Try wetting the flange with water to see if it helps. And make sure the lock isn't closed before trying. Good luck!
@@VeganOstomy wetting the flange still dont work , just a hard time for me snapping it on , cant even do it with wafer not attached to my body--will just stick with convatec---they snap on easily ! thx for replying
Thats a shame. Was it always like this with those wafers/bags or did this start recently? I'd let Coloplast know either way so they can improve the product!
@@VeganOstomy coloplast sent me samples , been using convec for 5 years but i seen that coloplast sesura mio has the one thats suppose to be good for hernia ( bulges ) but since having problems with attaching bag to wafer i'll just stick to convatec