The Evolution of Cumbia Music in Monterrey
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- Опубликовано: 13 ноя 2013
- Since the 60's, Monterrey has listened and danced to cumbia, a style of music originally imported from Colombia. Although it once played through the sound systems of Mexico City, nowhere else was cumbia received with as much passion as in Monterrey. There are several theories about how this city in the north of Mexico, thousands of kilometers away form Valledupar, became a stronghold of Colombian cumbia. The most accepted is that local sound systems, known as sonideros, started bringing records from Mexico City and Houston for their parties, particularly in the working-class neighborhoods of Campana and Independencia.
After a couple decades, cumbia in Monterrey evolved and found its own identity. In addition to the sonideros, bands appeared, first playing covers of classic songs, and later songs of their own, with Celso Piña being the most representative figure of this movement. At the same time, Colombians from Monterrey who listened to this music started developing their own fashions, a very particular way of dressing, dancing, and wearing their hair in a style that is neither Colombian or northern Mexican.
In company of Satanás (Satan), a local promoter and concert photographer, we went dancing to the Fe Music Hall, where we saw the Cumbiamberos RS in a face-off with other local bands. We went to a neighborhood party in the Amilpa neighborhood, we visited Rafael Dueñes (one of the first sonideros from Monterrey, who by mistake invented slowed down cumbias) in Independencia, and we talked with Toy Selectah, who, after Control Machete, has innovated, mixed, remixed and reinvented cumbia. Just as Celso Piña says, "We brought cumbia from Colombia to Monterrey, and from Monterrey to the world".
Cumbia has changed. The local scene has diminished in recent years because of the narco related violence that has hit the city, and the army and police cut the sideburns of many Colombians. Still, the party goes on, and these guys continue to dance and dance in circles to the rhythm of guaracha.
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I'm a African American from Los Angeles and I have Colombian neighbors. And I got hooked to Cumbia. I love it! But this music is a bit different. But much love to all they're just having fun.
this is afro-latin music. Almost all the music from Latin America has strong african roots.
Only reason it sounds like this is because they slowed (screwed) it down a bit.
McArio1 Your stupid!
Upturned17 its kinda true hispanic not a race its mix of spanish native & black depending on what part of latin america u from but tjose are the three main components
Upturned17 that the truth
“I bought a lot of records and became a sound system” love that for him, hope bro is doing good right now.
Hi
he is doing well i actually know him and am close to him
"me hice sonidero" would translate to "I became a dj" instead of "I became a sound system".
@@brandonchaires4937 great to hear that!
Que cosa más linda ❤️ adoro a Mexico 🇲🇽 me da tanto gusto ver que aprecian la música Colombiana!
Netflix sent me here feel me. “Ya No Estoy Aqui”
I recently finished that movie, and leaves a thing in my heart, something that makes me feel bad:/. It was a Great a realistic movie and I think it was a sad movie too:/
Jean Alvarado I really enjoyed the movie and I hope that they make a part 2 or a sequel to it
That’s wspp🤟🏾
Music and culture is fascinating!
Funny shit, I just found out about it yesterday. Grew up with cumbias all my life.
Wow. People here are quick to judge. They have a diff style from me but i dont care. Let them do their thing. Not any diff from Punks bank in the day. Live your lives people.
fact.
Im not being mean but what are you saying like some words are spelt weird
Nah they remind me of American juggalos, in that I feel second hand embarrassment watching them.
Glam rock, cyber goth and gangsta rap styles were pretty freaky too! The Cholombiana style has strong Native American flavour mixed with Western elements, it's unique. Not mad over the music but I'm not the demographic it's made for lol
Como Colombiano, me encanta ver esto! Saludos a los de Monterrey!
Uy, si vieras lo que algunos regios dicen...
Colombia cambio el mundo desde México hasta Argentina con la Cumbia villera.
Gracias hermanos colombianos saludos desde Costa Rica
Cumbia is a whole language of music within itself and since the first moment I heard it, it was absolutely angelic. Nothing but love and blessings to all those in Colombia and all of Central Amercia. 💪💪💪
A mí me parece que México es un lugar mágico con cabida para TODO TIPO DE PERSONAS, GUSTOS, PERSONALIDADES, ETC. Cada quien que haga lo que le guste y ya, nadie se mete con nadie.
+Angeles Figueroa De donde eres?
asi hablaras sobre el narco corrido ?
No me gustan esos "géneros", pero repito, cada quien. Y sí soy mexicana.
Angeles Figueroa claro cada quien,asi como cada quien crea que en mexico no hay violencia...
buen comentario B) cada quien su pedo @Angeles Figueroa
Just watched the I'm no longer here movie on Netflix, and now I begin down the cumbia rabbit hole!
That movie was amazing.
HErmanos de Mexico lindo y querido desde Valle del Cauca Colombia los saludo. Aqui y en El Eje Cafetero las Rancheras y Nortenas tambien tienen mucha popularidad en la radio discotecas y hogares . Colombia y Mexico dos paises donde se crean tocan y producen musicas de varios generos.
As a Colombian i am proud that people from other countries love our music and culture no matter who they are or what they do ... como Colombiana a mi me enorgullese que a otros paises les guste nuestra musica y nuestra cultura sean quien sean .... Viva Colombia carajo !!!!!!!!!!
Colombians did it better tbh lol the African beat and indigenous and European sounds mixed together is best from Colombia.
A mi me ofende que nuestra música tradicional en Monterrey la esté dañando de esa manera tan baja. Sus bailes, ropas y peinados no tienen nada que ver con la cultura colombiana
Haha no es una clase de reconocimiento al de colombia, es una con una identidad propia claro derivado de el de colombia pero muy aparte del de allá, de echo la ciudad se apropió de él y crecio con una identidad incluso más que el de colombia
@@sonic8217 una identidad copiada y nuevos elementos que dañan la originaria. Hahah bastante contradictorio a eso no se le puede dañar identidad! Ps: Hecho con H!!! Se ponen a dar opiniones y no siquiera saben escribir
@@Lola-wf2yx no estoy de acuerdo contigo pero tienes derecho a dar tu opinion
el "chopped and skrewed" mexicano!
Joe Roberts haha I was thinking the same thing. It’s actually not bad ..I fuck with chop and screw all day yoooooo
yourusernamesstupid andminesisnt no you don't.
Y'all are stupid af
Siempre me pregunto que habra sido primero el rebajado (chopped and skrewed) de rap o de cumbia colombiana
@@adrianrdz89 esto es desde los setentas. En rap aún no existía. 100% original cumbia.
Vaporwave clasico~
El vaporwave Mexicano. Es lo mejor haha
jajaj eso imagine
Jejeje
c e l s o w a v e 4:20
Sampleo y transposeado sin mamar
soy cubano, vivo en Miami. Que viva la Cumbia! Que suene el alegre y las gaitas. Que vivan mis hermanos y hermanas latinoamericanas!. Saludes de Miami.
Colombiano creó la cumbia, y México la mejoró, saludos desde Reino Unido.
I love to dance this kind of music
Makes me proud to be from Mexico when this music comes on
Saw this before the Netflix movie " Ya no estoy Aqui" 😅
"...Cumbia dub..." and now I get why I couldn't stop smoking flowers and bobbing my head to this. Thanks Vice!
Everyone is just livn having a good time...leave em alone
The one thing that Vice needs to improve upon their music documentary shorts is the lack of music they are reporting on. Every time it's one or two songs the max they showcase through the episode. Not exactly giving the viewer a taste of the music.
I really love the music. Can you recommend some groups or songs?
@@cesarvides9729 la tropa colombiana, super grupo colombia, la tropa vallenata, los niños del vallenato, kumbiamberos rs, octubre 82, celso piña, javier lopez y sus reyes vallenatos, kombo kolombia
It was interesting to see my town. I am from Monterrey and i remember when i went to visit i saw the "colombianos" with the long side burns. I'm not really sure why they picked the SATAN song.
Its kolombianos
Riiight.. I love this music but cmon why that song out of so many 😭
Im so going to visit those places and dance that music in my next visit to Mty.
Good documentary, and a cool interpretation of the Cumbia sound. I am surprised so many people in the comments don't get it.
There’s a movie completely about this on Netflix called I Am No Longer Here
DJ SCREW WOULD BE PROUD
That Houston influence for sure.
@@DJAUDIO1 who tf is dj screws anyway?
Lmao this was way before DJ Screw was born if anything DJ Screw was Influenced by this but I doubt he even knew about it.
mis saludos desde colombia .
las mejores energias para todos los que evolucionan la cultura musical; eso la mantiene viva y bien fuerte
mis saludos desde colombia .
las mejores energias para todos los que evolucionan la cultura, eso la mantiene viva
This is awesome I like the music a lot
Epic and amazing
Proud to be a Latino
Que Dios Los vendiga a todos, always
😉✌🏼🕊
Thank you for this documentation.
I'm proud to say that I Live in Monterrey, greetings World !
9:04 Original Chopped and Screwed
+Eduardo Pena hahaha hell yeah!
Do you know the name of that song? Sounds dope.
and whats ironic is the brother got his records from houston(where chopped and screwed originated)
Lmao yeah ok
@@MA3POLO armando hernandes te sigo amando
The Colombian Music In Monterrey is played everywhere you go in Monterrey. My mom told me that the Colombian Cumbia has been played ever since she was a kid .. so much as popular artist have added a twist of their on Genre to there cumbia... Celso Piña will always be Monterrey Symbol of Cumbia Colombiana RIP to him .. he made history ...
The intersection of my favorites, music, history and a Johnny Harris production.
It's a trip to see things are that are familiar but at the same time very different. I grew up with cumbias and still listen to them on occasion. The top button being the only one buttoned hasn't been a thing in years lol (I'm aware of when this was uploaded). Stay safe out there, from a Salvadoran out of Southern CA✌🏽!
Nothing better than being Mexican 🇲🇽
All the music in this documentary🔥🔥👌👌👌
So awesome! Gracias por enseñarme que el estilo “rebajada” es la forma mas despacio y nace de Mexico. Yo no lo sé antes. Yo estoy fascinado!
Esta es una de las razones por la cual México y Colombia son países hermanos a pesar de no compartir fronteras. Somos referentes culturales a nivel del continente y existe un aprecio por ambas culturas desde cada país. Hermanos mexicanos, un abrazo desde Colombia.
Just when I thought R&B was being chopped and screwed, this stuffs legendary. I fuck with the leaned out Cumbia.
Didn't even talk to the girls smh.
tal ves los veamos mal, y digamos miles de cosas, pero se ven que son felizes dentro de su mundo y no tiene odio ni coraje ni traumas como muchos que atacan o critiquan por la vestimenta.
Que hermoso, mi sueno algun dia ir a Monterrey a bailar cumbias rebajadas, love from NZ
As a Mexican-American, it's so interesting seeing the different way they dance cumbia in the video compared to what I'm used to dancing myself. I've almost always seen cumbia as dancing with a partner and doing hella turns and spins lmao
Yeah and the original dance from colombia is wayy different too. They use candles
“Me Vengo peinando en el Camion”
???
@@andresgmz2105:35
Viva mi Colombia y viva México!
COLOMBIA🇨🇴Cuna Ancestral De La Cumbia y El Vallenato Original folckore Native Raizal 💯%IDENTIDAD CULTURAL DE COLOMBIA Y LOS COLOMBIANOS!!!...UNESCO DECLARÓ LA MUSICA DE COLOMBIA ‼️🇨🇴 PATRIMONIO UNIVERSAL DE LA HUMANIDAD 👏👏👏 HONOR A QUIEN MERECE HONOR A COLOMBIA!!!..SIN ESTE BELLO PAIS NO EXISTIRIA LA CUMBIA NI EL VALLENATO ORIGINAL 💯%PURO DESDE SUS ORIGENES!!!...👍
Que curioso, en mi casa vivio uma chica de 40 años de Bogota Colombia. Yo pongo cumbia y me encanta. Un dia le pregunte si bailaban la cumbia similar en Bogota? Pues se que la cumbia original es Colombiana y me dijo que ese tipo de cansiones no existia en su pais y que la cumbia era muy raro bailarla alla
Me quede con dudas hasta el dia de hoy. Ella era muy despectiva con mi cultura Mexicana.
Geial! que la cerveza Indio en México apoye estos proyectos, bravooo!
4:31 thats the guy from the movie on Netflix
Other countries such as Guatemala also love love Cumbia we have our own little Cumbia genre but it's mixed with Marimba
The chopped and screwed/Houston link is heavy , tremendous !
rap sucks
"satanas yo te quiero pedir lo que dios no me ha querido dar"
🔥
No saben donde encontrar esa rola ?
@@joshrivera7807 RUclips se llama “satanas “
Song was ass
I love Vice documentaries!!!!
I went from punk and industrial to being a cumbiero
Jajaj the same happened to me! Saludos desde Brasil, cooompas
Nice! What an interesting documentary. Vice is definitely highlighting some interesting subcultures in Mexico. WOW.
Stephanie Madrid hola stephanie
Wow, I’m from Monterrey and I did not know this side 🙊
wtf lol my pops listen to Cumbia and he's 50. I never thought they'll be people dressed like it was a 2001 rap video and throwing gang signs that listen to Cumbia in Mexico lol
Have you ever visited Monterey lol ? Or ever heard of Celso pina?
@@MiguelFlores-ud8bx my family lives there and i go like 1 time a year
It looks like they got their dance moves from the movie colors, froggy. It's crazy how you can go to many parts of the world and still seem like they're stuck in time.
I AM CRRY😣😣😣😣😣😣😁😁😁😁IINNGGGG
The first song is fuckin sickk, slow tempo heavy groove. So many fuckin haters in the comments lol. Just let prople be, i rather listen to cumbia and salsa than that chop ass german polka bullshit called corridos or banda. I fuckin tuba playin the same 2 notes for the whole fuckin song haha
RMProdux2008 do you know the name of that first song
I know what you mean as soon as I hear the guiro and the accordion playing it gives me goosebumps cumbia is the best
Que chido, me recuerda mi niñez, saludos hermanos
Very interesting!
monterrey estaba conmadre hace 4 o 5 anyos. cafe iguanas y todo el barrio antiguo
finally a vice video from mexico that doenst have to do with lame mexico city . this city is really nice but dangerous perhaps vice should go in detail about that
Mexico Y Colombia Una Combinasion Como Dijieran Mis Compas Colombianos Bien Berracaa Saludos Desde La Tierra Azteca..
México es cultura ... De la que sea ... Aplausos ...
Soy colombiano y reconozco que hay mucha influencia de la cumbia pero el colombiano cumbiero no viste para nada de esa manera! 😂 Saludos hermanos de México, se les quiere desde Colombia.
Claro que los colombianos no se visten asi, esta es la cultura de cumbia mexicana que simplemente es influenciada por música colombia
Es una mezcla como dice el video con la influencia de la musica Colombiana y el estilo de los chicanos en EU
El mismo lo dice, la vestimenta la tomaron de la cultura chicana...
I am Colombian I live in LA
And am thankful to these people for adopting something ours and make theirs, and now is ours all of us Mexico Colombia we're a culture more than a race, viva Mexico cabrones y viva Colombia,
En Colombia es tan diferente , para nosotros la cumbia es muy linda y la bailamos muy diferente 🇨🇴
Excellent.
Coincidentially (or not), the cumbia rebajada is, conceptually, the same thing as DJ Screw's Chopped and Screwed hip-hop from... Houston, TX. Which came first? Anyone?
how about we see a documentary on South American cumbia
chopath chopath Peru, Argentina, Colombia, Ecuador, Panama, El Salvador, Guatemala, and a handful of other countries have amazing cumbias. I don’t know if you’re familiar with the Sonidero movement in Mexico City, but Sonideros (DJ’s) play all these types of styles of cumbias. Cumbias coming from others countries inspired the Cumbia groups in Mexico. I’m Mexican and I love all the other styles of cumbias. I’d personally recommend you to look into the cumbias from Peru!
@@AXEL0329 I heard Peruvian cumbias have a bad rep..
RubiMercuri - Just listen to Mujer Hilandera or Volando from Juaneco y su combo
@E_MAN TV sure why not...
Colombia El Salvador and Nicaragua have tha best cumbia
5:25
Cameras rolling in their face
Huey: BAILA! BAILALE!
Huey: *shakes head*
Gracias a la película de Ya no estoy aquí muchos de mis amigos andan escuchando las rebajadas
Lo mas relajante a puedes escuchar
Someone please tell me the name of the song he starts to play at 8:22 and he slows it down! It's so nice😭
Nvm I found it! Thanks for nothing :D lol
bowieluber What song was it? I’ve been looking for it also
It's called Te Sigo Amando by Armando Hernandez
What time name of the song
When cumbia meets chopped and screwed in monterrey.
Can anybody help, and tell me what record Gabriel Duenez is playing? The one to which he showed us it being slowed down, I must know!
ruclips.net/video/_SQABSdx6-U/видео.html - Armando Hernandez Te sigo amando
Para los que buscaban la canción del minuto 9:05 se te sigo amando Armando Hernández... de nada
Psycho Realm @ 4:18...
Sick Side WorldWide
i dont understand why people complain. if you want more mainstream pieces, you should not be subscribed to this channel. have an open mind.
The song is demonic there’s so many other goodies they could’ve picked instead of one talkin bout Satan. The internet is open to anyone with an opinion if you’re sensitive maybe you should be the one to log off
reminds me of getting dragged to parties by my parents. good video.
THANK YOU NETFLIX FOR PUTTIN ME ON TO ONE OF THEEE DOPEST CULTURES. TURKOS
Para muchos amigos Colombianos, muchos de sus mejores exponentes de cumbia y vallenato hicieron fama internacional precisamente por Monterrey, Nuevo León, México, sin ofender. La música colombiana es muy querida en México pero esto ya es parte del foklor de Monterrey. La cultura no es una franquicia que debe seguirse al pie de la letra, ahí el origen otras. Saludos de un Mexicano
amigo siento decirte lo contrario pero esa fama a la que tu te refieres se la dio primero los paises sudamericanos como el peru que ademas tiene buenas cumbias, tambien el ecuador y la argentina. saludos
+Esteban Sanchez huy wey!!! No mames! Peru exporto la cumbia al mundo entero! 😂 jajaja La cumbia no es colombiana, tiene origen colombiano, que es muy diferente!!
+Jorge Rosas jajajaj amigo siento tambien negarte tus afirmaciones, pero me gustaria que indagaras mas! la cumbia es 100% colombiana, que el peru la aya adaptado diferente son sonidos diferentes es otra cosa pero es folclor colombiano puro! wikipedia te desmiente hermano. Saludos
+Esteban Sanchez 1. Me niegas??, jajaja! Nadie puede negar lo que yo pienso 😂😂‼️ 2. Sabes que es SARCASMO?? Creo que no entendiste mi comentario!!
+Jorge Rosas claro que se que es sarcasmo pero no tiene pinda de sarcastico tu comentario. jajaja
Chopped and screwed Cumbia..dope
Chingon chingon papa!!!!!
Desde San Bernardino CA
Que se escuche Mija!!
Que Viva la cumbia y soy menor de eded, mis Padres del distrito federal me an forcado en la cultura colombianos y lo amo cobron!!!!
Chopped and screwed ! Heard this 15 years ago!
Then chopped and screwed means it was invented by them
I visited Monterrey in October. It was a beautiful city but my god, the weather was dreadful.
9:25
lol
der kölner dom!
Colonia la indepencia Monterey is where my roots is from, and i love it.
Damn foo I love dance n' listen cumbia rebajada , My Uncles n primos show me how to dance N I love it
Can someone please tell me the name of the song at 9:04?
holaa jajaja 7 años después pero la canción se llama “aunque tú no me quieras” 😁
@@ingridpaola5620 gracias 🫶🏼
Damn where can I find some of these slow cumbias
haha ditto that, I like them! everyone is bitchin but I dig it
This comment it's 3 years old, but o you haven't find theme just search "Cumbias Rebajadas" on youtube
La cumbia es amor!!!!!
To lightly get introduced to cumbias,
I recommend listening to:
(Colombia)- Vallenato Style
Aniceto Molina- Cumbia Sampuesana
Aniceto Molina- Cumbia Cienaguera
(Peru)- ?Style
Los Mirlos de Peru- Danza de Los Mirlos
(Mexico)- Sonidero Style
Alberto Pedraza Islas- Cumbia Gabacha
(Mexico; Tex-Mex)- Northern Style, Tejano Style
Control- Cumbia con la luna
Feel free to research more because this is literally nothing compared to the huge pool of cumbias and unique styles out in the world.
I grew up in Houston and have heard Cumbia myself . Love the scene here , honestly I dont think this video represents the whole genre well ...
ME GUSTO ESTE VIDEO VER COMO TODOS SE DIVIERTEN MIENTRAS ESCUCHAN CUMBIAS PERO ESTOY DESACUERDO CON EL HOMBRE GABRIEL DUENEZ QUE DIJO QUE ELLOS INVENTARON LA MUSICA REBAJADA, BULLSHIT!!!! EL QUE INVENTO MUSICA REBAJADA FUE DJ SCREW EL TENIA REBAJANDO MUSICA DESDE LOS TEMPRANO 90`S EL ESTILO SE LLAMA SCREWED AND CHOPPED.YO SOY DE ACA DE JUARITOS Y EL PASO TX Y YO PRIMERO ESCUCHE A DJ SCREW EN EL 98 POR UN CAMARADA DE AUSTIN QUE ME REGALO UN TAPE DE DJ SCREW LLAMADO 3 IN THE MORNING!!!!!! HUBIERA DICHO QUE ELLOS ADOPTARON ESE ESTILO DE REBAJAR MUSICA PERO NO QUE LO INVENTARON, AY QUE HABLAR CON HONESTIDAD.VIVA DJ SCREW POR SIEMPRE AY QUE DARLE SU LUGAR COMO THE ORIGINATOR OF SCREWED AND CHOPPED!!!!!!
duenez been chopping and screwing since the 70s homie
I DONT EVER REMEMBER HEARING A SCREWED OUT SONG TILL SCREW SO I WOULD NEED TO HEAR A 70S SCREWED OUT SONG THAT WAS ACTUALLY SCREWED OUT IN THE 70S!!!!!KNOW WHAT IM SAYING!!!!
Anecito Molina brought the accordian to Mexico from Colombia in the early 70s. Celso Pina started playing accordian a decade later in the 80s. ✌😁
it was way before Aniceto Molina... Sonora Dinamita, Corraleros del Majagual, Mike Laure, Los Wawanco, Sonora Matancera... Different kinds of Cumbias, but it was way before Aniceto Molina.
@@fufukolombias in Mexico? Or Colombia? Either way, thanks for the names, Im just getting into Cumbia after my trip to Colombia and Ill check those guys out.
@@fufukolombias I meant to say Anecito brought the accordian to Mexico, along with his style of Cumbia.
@@CHodgy some colombian, some cuban, some argentinan, some mexicans.
@@CHodgy again, before Aniceto, corraleros del Majagual did it. Aniceto used to be a musician of Anibal Velasquez, and he was already famous in Mexico, before Aniceto had his own group.
soooo good!
La verdad es que en Colombia no se escucha cumbia, la gente lo que más escucha es Vallenato (que no es cumbia) y reggaeton, y en algunas regiones, irónicamente, lo único que se oyen son corridos y rancheras.
Sin ofender viejo, es verdad que el vallenato es muy escuchado en Colombia, pero la cumbia también hace parte del diario vivir, ademas en épocas decembrinas aumenta mas las escucha de este genero.
Saludos de otr colombiano
Cuando hice mi argumento me refería a que las juventudes en Colombia no eligen por defecto la cumbia por como género preferido, y que eligen el vallenato u otros ritmos por encima de la cumbia. No hay ninguna ofensa es tu opinión y no hay nada malo en ello. Un abrazo de un compatriota.
No sabía que en Colombia se escuchaban corridos, interesante.
@@McArio1 Soy Colombiano y no tengo ni verga idea que es Corridos.
@@McArio1 si eso depende de laregion y hay grupod Colombianos de corridos
can someone tell me the name of the song at 9:05
Dang 6 years and still no answer
Lmao
Where can i find the first cumbia that played? Slowed down the same way
El vallenato y la cumbia y otros géneros de colombia como el porro , la musica Paisa y tropicales ,instrumentales ,combos etc.esta musica la dio a conocer los sonideros de la colonia independencia como sonido murillo ,sonido rada, sonido dueñez etc