The Evolution of Cumbia Music in Monterrey
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Since the 60's, Monterrey has listened and danced to cumbia, a style of music originally imported from Colombia. Although it once played through the sound systems of Mexico City, nowhere else was cumbia received with as much passion as in Monterrey. There are several theories about how this city in the north of Mexico, thousands of kilometers away form Valledupar, became a stronghold of Colombian cumbia. The most accepted is that local sound systems, known as sonideros, started bringing records from Mexico City and Houston for their parties, particularly in the working-class neighborhoods of Campana and Independencia.
After a couple decades, cumbia in Monterrey evolved and found its own identity. In addition to the sonideros, bands appeared, first playing covers of classic songs, and later songs of their own, with Celso Piña being the most representative figure of this movement. At the same time, Colombians from Monterrey who listened to this music started developing their own fashions, a very particular way of dressing, dancing, and wearing their hair in a style that is neither Colombian or northern Mexican.
In company of Satanás (Satan), a local promoter and concert photographer, we went dancing to the Fe Music Hall, where we saw the Cumbiamberos RS in a face-off with other local bands. We went to a neighborhood party in the Amilpa neighborhood, we visited Rafael Dueñes (one of the first sonideros from Monterrey, who by mistake invented slowed down cumbias) in Independencia, and we talked with Toy Selectah, who, after Control Machete, has innovated, mixed, remixed and reinvented cumbia. Just as Celso Piña says, "We brought cumbia from Colombia to Monterrey, and from Monterrey to the world".
Cumbia has changed. The local scene has diminished in recent years because of the narco related violence that has hit the city, and the army and police cut the sideburns of many Colombians. Still, the party goes on, and these guys continue to dance and dance in circles to the rhythm of guaracha.
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“I bought a lot of records and became a sound system” love that for him, hope bro is doing good right now.
Hi
he is doing well i actually know him and am close to him
"me hice sonidero" would translate to "I became a dj" instead of "I became a sound system".
@@brandonchaires4937 great to hear that!
I'm a African American from Los Angeles and I have Colombian neighbors. And I got hooked to Cumbia. I love it! But this music is a bit different. But much love to all they're just having fun.
this is afro-latin music. Almost all the music from Latin America has strong african roots.
Only reason it sounds like this is because they slowed (screwed) it down a bit.
McArio1 Your stupid!
Upturned17 its kinda true hispanic not a race its mix of spanish native & black depending on what part of latin america u from but tjose are the three main components
Upturned17 that the truth
Que cosa más linda ❤️ adoro a Mexico 🇲🇽 me da tanto gusto ver que aprecian la música Colombiana!
Como Colombiano, me encanta ver esto! Saludos a los de Monterrey!
Uy, si vieras lo que algunos regios dicen...
Colombia cambio el mundo desde México hasta Argentina con la Cumbia villera.
Gracias hermanos colombianos saludos desde Costa Rica
Wow. People here are quick to judge. They have a diff style from me but i dont care. Let them do their thing. Not any diff from Punks bank in the day. Live your lives people.
fact.
Im not being mean but what are you saying like some words are spelt weird
Nah they remind me of American juggalos, in that I feel second hand embarrassment watching them.
Glam rock, cyber goth and gangsta rap styles were pretty freaky too! The Cholombiana style has strong Native American flavour mixed with Western elements, it's unique. Not mad over the music but I'm not the demographic it's made for lol
A mí me parece que México es un lugar mágico con cabida para TODO TIPO DE PERSONAS, GUSTOS, PERSONALIDADES, ETC. Cada quien que haga lo que le guste y ya, nadie se mete con nadie.
+Angeles Figueroa De donde eres?
asi hablaras sobre el narco corrido ?
No me gustan esos "géneros", pero repito, cada quien. Y sí soy mexicana.
Angeles Figueroa claro cada quien,asi como cada quien crea que en mexico no hay violencia...
buen comentario B) cada quien su pedo @Angeles Figueroa
Cumbia is a whole language of music within itself and since the first moment I heard it, it was absolutely angelic. Nothing but love and blessings to all those in Colombia and all of Central Amercia. 💪💪💪
Just watched the I'm no longer here movie on Netflix, and now I begin down the cumbia rabbit hole!
That movie was amazing.
As a Colombian i am proud that people from other countries love our music and culture no matter who they are or what they do ... como Colombiana a mi me enorgullese que a otros paises les guste nuestra musica y nuestra cultura sean quien sean .... Viva Colombia carajo !!!!!!!!!!
Colombians did it better tbh lol the African beat and indigenous and European sounds mixed together is best from Colombia.
A mi me ofende que nuestra música tradicional en Monterrey la esté dañando de esa manera tan baja. Sus bailes, ropas y peinados no tienen nada que ver con la cultura colombiana
Haha no es una clase de reconocimiento al de colombia, es una con una identidad propia claro derivado de el de colombia pero muy aparte del de allá, de echo la ciudad se apropió de él y crecio con una identidad incluso más que el de colombia
@@sonic8217 una identidad copiada y nuevos elementos que dañan la originaria. Hahah bastante contradictorio a eso no se le puede dañar identidad! Ps: Hecho con H!!! Se ponen a dar opiniones y no siquiera saben escribir
@@Lola-wf2yx no estoy de acuerdo contigo pero tienes derecho a dar tu opinion
HErmanos de Mexico lindo y querido desde Valle del Cauca Colombia los saludo. Aqui y en El Eje Cafetero las Rancheras y Nortenas tambien tienen mucha popularidad en la radio discotecas y hogares . Colombia y Mexico dos paises donde se crean tocan y producen musicas de varios generos.
el "chopped and skrewed" mexicano!
Joe Roberts haha I was thinking the same thing. It’s actually not bad ..I fuck with chop and screw all day yoooooo
yourusernamesstupid andminesisnt no you don't.
Y'all are stupid af
Siempre me pregunto que habra sido primero el rebajado (chopped and skrewed) de rap o de cumbia colombiana
@@adrianrdz89 esto es desde los setentas. En rap aún no existía. 100% original cumbia.
Netflix sent me here feel me. “Ya No Estoy Aqui”
I recently finished that movie, and leaves a thing in my heart, something that makes me feel bad:/. It was a Great a realistic movie and I think it was a sad movie too:/
Jean Alvarado I really enjoyed the movie and I hope that they make a part 2 or a sequel to it
That’s wspp🤟🏾
Music and culture is fascinating!
Funny shit, I just found out about it yesterday. Grew up with cumbias all my life.
soy cubano, vivo en Miami. Que viva la Cumbia! Que suene el alegre y las gaitas. Que vivan mis hermanos y hermanas latinoamericanas!. Saludes de Miami.
Vaporwave clasico~
El vaporwave Mexicano. Es lo mejor haha
jajaj eso imagine
Jejeje
c e l s o w a v e 4:20
Sampleo y transposeado sin mamar
"...Cumbia dub..." and now I get why I couldn't stop smoking flowers and bobbing my head to this. Thanks Vice!
I love to dance this kind of music
Makes me proud to be from Mexico when this music comes on
I'm proud to say that I Live in Monterrey, greetings World !
Que hermoso, mi sueno algun dia ir a Monterrey a bailar cumbias rebajadas, love from NZ
Saw this before the Netflix movie " Ya no estoy Aqui" 😅
Epic and amazing
Proud to be a Latino
Que Dios Los vendiga a todos, always
😉✌🏼🕊
Geial! que la cerveza Indio en México apoye estos proyectos, bravooo!
Im so going to visit those places and dance that music in my next visit to Mty.
So awesome! Gracias por enseñarme que el estilo “rebajada” es la forma mas despacio y nace de Mexico. Yo no lo sé antes. Yo estoy fascinado!
Good documentary, and a cool interpretation of the Cumbia sound. I am surprised so many people in the comments don't get it.
Everyone is just livn having a good time...leave em alone
The Colombian Music In Monterrey is played everywhere you go in Monterrey. My mom told me that the Colombian Cumbia has been played ever since she was a kid .. so much as popular artist have added a twist of their on Genre to there cumbia... Celso Piña will always be Monterrey Symbol of Cumbia Colombiana RIP to him .. he made history ...
Colombiano creó la cumbia, y México la mejoró, saludos desde Reino Unido.
COLOMBIA🇨🇴Cuna Ancestral De La Cumbia y El Vallenato Original folckore Native Raizal 💯%IDENTIDAD CULTURAL DE COLOMBIA Y LOS COLOMBIANOS!!!...UNESCO DECLARÓ LA MUSICA DE COLOMBIA ‼️🇨🇴 PATRIMONIO UNIVERSAL DE LA HUMANIDAD 👏👏👏 HONOR A QUIEN MERECE HONOR A COLOMBIA!!!..SIN ESTE BELLO PAIS NO EXISTIRIA LA CUMBIA NI EL VALLENATO ORIGINAL 💯%PURO DESDE SUS ORIGENES!!!...👍
Que curioso, en mi casa vivio uma chica de 40 años de Bogota Colombia. Yo pongo cumbia y me encanta. Un dia le pregunte si bailaban la cumbia similar en Bogota? Pues se que la cumbia original es Colombiana y me dijo que ese tipo de cansiones no existia en su pais y que la cumbia era muy raro bailarla alla
Me quede con dudas hasta el dia de hoy. Ella era muy despectiva con mi cultura Mexicana.
mis saludos desde colombia .
las mejores energias para todos los que evolucionan la cultura, eso la mantiene viva
There’s a movie completely about this on Netflix called I Am No Longer Here
The chopped and screwed/Houston link is heavy , tremendous !
rap sucks
The one thing that Vice needs to improve upon their music documentary shorts is the lack of music they are reporting on. Every time it's one or two songs the max they showcase through the episode. Not exactly giving the viewer a taste of the music.
I really love the music. Can you recommend some groups or songs?
@@cesarvides9729 la tropa colombiana, super grupo colombia, la tropa vallenata, los niños del vallenato, kumbiamberos rs, octubre 82, celso piña, javier lopez y sus reyes vallenatos, kombo kolombia
Viva mi Colombia y viva México!
Nothing better than being Mexican 🇲🇽
Just when I thought R&B was being chopped and screwed, this stuffs legendary. I fuck with the leaned out Cumbia.
It was interesting to see my town. I am from Monterrey and i remember when i went to visit i saw the "colombianos" with the long side burns. I'm not really sure why they picked the SATAN song.
Its kolombianos
Riiight.. I love this music but cmon why that song out of so many 😭
It's a trip to see things are that are familiar but at the same time very different. I grew up with cumbias and still listen to them on occasion. The top button being the only one buttoned hasn't been a thing in years lol (I'm aware of when this was uploaded). Stay safe out there, from a Salvadoran out of Southern CA✌🏽!
All the music in this documentary🔥🔥👌👌👌
The intersection of my favorites, music, history and a Johnny Harris production.
Nice! What an interesting documentary. Vice is definitely highlighting some interesting subcultures in Mexico. WOW.
Stephanie Madrid hola stephanie
Mexico Y Colombia Una Combinasion Como Dijieran Mis Compas Colombianos Bien Berracaa Saludos Desde La Tierra Azteca..
tal ves los veamos mal, y digamos miles de cosas, pero se ven que son felizes dentro de su mundo y no tiene odio ni coraje ni traumas como muchos que atacan o critiquan por la vestimenta.
En Colombia es tan diferente , para nosotros la cumbia es muy linda y la bailamos muy diferente 🇨🇴
As a Mexican-American, it's so interesting seeing the different way they dance cumbia in the video compared to what I'm used to dancing myself. I've almost always seen cumbia as dancing with a partner and doing hella turns and spins lmao
Yeah and the original dance from colombia is wayy different too. They use candles
Thank you for this documentation.
I am Colombian I live in LA
And am thankful to these people for adopting something ours and make theirs, and now is ours all of us Mexico Colombia we're a culture more than a race, viva Mexico cabrones y viva Colombia,
Wow, I’m from Monterrey and I did not know this side 🙊
This is awesome I like the music a lot
Chingon chingon papa!!!!!
Desde San Bernardino CA
Que se escuche Mija!!
Que Viva la cumbia y soy menor de eded, mis Padres del distrito federal me an forcado en la cultura colombianos y lo amo cobron!!!!
Chopped and screwed ! Heard this 15 years ago!
Then chopped and screwed means it was invented by them
Quien lo disfruta en el 2020 en plena cuarentena?
9:04 Original Chopped and Screwed
+Eduardo Pena hahaha hell yeah!
Do you know the name of that song? Sounds dope.
and whats ironic is the brother got his records from houston(where chopped and screwed originated)
Lmao yeah ok
@@MA3POLO armando hernandes te sigo amando
The original Cumbia is entirely different than what is shown here. This version is a Mexican development. Original Colombian Cumbia is an African music which is played and danced entirely different. Also, actual Colombians do not dress as the kids in this video. That is 100% original to Mexico.
Origin Colombia cumbia is a mix of three cultures not just African
Other countries such as Guatemala also love love Cumbia we have our own little Cumbia genre but it's mixed with Marimba
Anecito Molina brought the accordian to Mexico from Colombia in the early 70s. Celso Pina started playing accordian a decade later in the 80s. ✌😁
it was way before Aniceto Molina... Sonora Dinamita, Corraleros del Majagual, Mike Laure, Los Wawanco, Sonora Matancera... Different kinds of Cumbias, but it was way before Aniceto Molina.
@@fufukolombias in Mexico? Or Colombia? Either way, thanks for the names, Im just getting into Cumbia after my trip to Colombia and Ill check those guys out.
@@fufukolombias I meant to say Anecito brought the accordian to Mexico, along with his style of Cumbia.
@@CHodgy some colombian, some cuban, some argentinan, some mexicans.
@@CHodgy again, before Aniceto, corraleros del Majagual did it. Aniceto used to be a musician of Anibal Velasquez, and he was already famous in Mexico, before Aniceto had his own group.
Para muchos amigos Colombianos, muchos de sus mejores exponentes de cumbia y vallenato hicieron fama internacional precisamente por Monterrey, Nuevo León, México, sin ofender. La música colombiana es muy querida en México pero esto ya es parte del foklor de Monterrey. La cultura no es una franquicia que debe seguirse al pie de la letra, ahí el origen otras. Saludos de un Mexicano
amigo siento decirte lo contrario pero esa fama a la que tu te refieres se la dio primero los paises sudamericanos como el peru que ademas tiene buenas cumbias, tambien el ecuador y la argentina. saludos
+Esteban Sanchez huy wey!!! No mames! Peru exporto la cumbia al mundo entero! 😂 jajaja La cumbia no es colombiana, tiene origen colombiano, que es muy diferente!!
+Jorge Rosas jajajaj amigo siento tambien negarte tus afirmaciones, pero me gustaria que indagaras mas! la cumbia es 100% colombiana, que el peru la aya adaptado diferente son sonidos diferentes es otra cosa pero es folclor colombiano puro! wikipedia te desmiente hermano. Saludos
+Esteban Sanchez 1. Me niegas??, jajaja! Nadie puede negar lo que yo pienso 😂😂‼️ 2. Sabes que es SARCASMO?? Creo que no entendiste mi comentario!!
+Jorge Rosas claro que se que es sarcasmo pero no tiene pinda de sarcastico tu comentario. jajaja
Gracias a la película de Ya no estoy aquí muchos de mis amigos andan escuchando las rebajadas
Lo mas relajante a puedes escuchar
Didn't even talk to the girls smh.
THANK YOU NETFLIX FOR PUTTIN ME ON TO ONE OF THEEE DOPEST CULTURES. TURKOS
I went from punk and industrial to being a cumbiero
Jajaj the same happened to me! Saludos desde Brasil, cooompas
México es cultura ... De la que sea ... Aplausos ...
I love Vice documentaries!!!!
El vallenato y la cumbia y otros géneros de colombia como el porro , la musica Paisa y tropicales ,instrumentales ,combos etc.esta musica la dio a conocer los sonideros de la colonia independencia como sonido murillo ,sonido rada, sonido dueñez etc
“Me Vengo peinando en el Camion”
???
@@andresgmz2105:35
Genial esto de la cumbia rebajada. Le da cierto toque "satánico", muy divertido y al final no tan fuera de lugar para el género, si uno piensa en ciertos conjuntos clásicos como Los Diablos Rojos de Perú. También como que más sensual para bailar...
Coincidentially (or not), the cumbia rebajada is, conceptually, the same thing as DJ Screw's Chopped and Screwed hip-hop from... Houston, TX. Which came first? Anyone?
Que buena es la música vallenata, no importa las clases sociales.
4:31 thats the guy from the movie on Netflix
Excelente la cumbia, orgullo venezolano
finally a vice video from mexico that doenst have to do with lame mexico city . this city is really nice but dangerous perhaps vice should go in detail about that
DESDE MONTERREY, NL HASTA EAST DALLAS TEXAS!
wtf lol my pops listen to Cumbia and he's 50. I never thought they'll be people dressed like it was a 2001 rap video and throwing gang signs that listen to Cumbia in Mexico lol
Have you ever visited Monterey lol ? Or ever heard of Celso pina?
@@MiguelFlores-ud8bx my family lives there and i go like 1 time a year
It looks like they got their dance moves from the movie colors, froggy. It's crazy how you can go to many parts of the world and still seem like they're stuck in time.
I AM CRRY😣😣😣😣😣😣😁😁😁😁IINNGGGG
To lightly get introduced to cumbias,
I recommend listening to:
(Colombia)- Vallenato Style
Aniceto Molina- Cumbia Sampuesana
Aniceto Molina- Cumbia Cienaguera
(Peru)- ?Style
Los Mirlos de Peru- Danza de Los Mirlos
(Mexico)- Sonidero Style
Alberto Pedraza Islas- Cumbia Gabacha
(Mexico; Tex-Mex)- Northern Style, Tejano Style
Control- Cumbia con la luna
Feel free to research more because this is literally nothing compared to the huge pool of cumbias and unique styles out in the world.
Soy colombiano y reconozco que hay mucha influencia de la cumbia pero el colombiano cumbiero no viste para nada de esa manera! 😂 Saludos hermanos de México, se les quiere desde Colombia.
Claro que los colombianos no se visten asi, esta es la cultura de cumbia mexicana que simplemente es influenciada por música colombia
Es una mezcla como dice el video con la influencia de la musica Colombiana y el estilo de los chicanos en EU
El mismo lo dice, la vestimenta la tomaron de la cultura chicana...
I kinda like that slowed down cumbia. And that dancing looks like a Mexican crip walk.
monterrey estaba conmadre hace 4 o 5 anyos. cafe iguanas y todo el barrio antiguo
Colonia la indepencia Monterey is where my roots is from, and i love it.
"satanas yo te quiero pedir lo que dios no me ha querido dar"
🔥
No saben donde encontrar esa rola ?
@@joshrivera7807 RUclips se llama “satanas “
Song was ass
La cumbia es amor!!!!!
DJ SCREW WOULD BE PROUD
That Houston influence for sure.
@@DJAUDIO1 who tf is dj screws anyway?
Lmao this was way before DJ Screw was born if anything DJ Screw was Influenced by this but I doubt he even knew about it.
Ya no estoy aqui, watching this video after 8 years. How is it there now I wonder.
When cumbia meets chopped and screwed in monterrey.
La cumbia de Colombia es un ritmo florclorico muy alegre para bailar y escuchar tanto asi que nuestra compatriota Barranquillera Shakira la mostro a nivel mundial moviendo sus caderas y con orgullo dice: Cumbia de Colombia... no sabia que tenia tanta acogida en Mexico 🇨🇴👏👍✌🕺
I visited Monterrey in October. It was a beautiful city but my god, the weather was dreadful.
As a black dude in L.A. I love cumbia
Chopped and screwed Cumbia..dope
My Fam from The YUCATAN which is the Caribbean Side of mexico lil different out there tbh , but Cumbia & salsa is no stranger out there & y is a surprise that there is cumbia ..so what ? HELLO ITS LATIN AMERICA ! PLUS I REP HISPANIC PRIDE ALL DAY LUV ALL MY LATINO GENTE !!
Idk about those Satan lyrics tho lol
Someone please tell me the name of the song he starts to play at 8:22 and he slows it down! It's so nice😭
Nvm I found it! Thanks for nothing :D lol
bowieluber What song was it? I’ve been looking for it also
It's called Te Sigo Amando by Armando Hernandez
What time name of the song
Awebo puro barrio bravo yo tengo amigos regios q visten botas y sombrero pero en El fondo escuchan vallenato
The first song is fuckin sickk, slow tempo heavy groove. So many fuckin haters in the comments lol. Just let prople be, i rather listen to cumbia and salsa than that chop ass german polka bullshit called corridos or banda. I fuckin tuba playin the same 2 notes for the whole fuckin song haha
RMProdux2008 do you know the name of that first song
I know what you mean as soon as I hear the guiro and the accordion playing it gives me goosebumps cumbia is the best
5:25
Cameras rolling in their face
Huey: BAILA! BAILALE!
Huey: *shakes head*
yo soy de monterrey y esta es la verdadera cumbia para mí. nada como una rola melancolica con tempo lento de celso piña, rebajada. con una buena caguamota. esta es la verdadera musica del ghetto del norte. me dan risa los comentarios de los chicanos, como si ellos no tuvieran sus mamadas de rap chicano o screw and shopped.
Esas rolitas te hacen sentir triste pero feliz , la cumbia es vida
Que chido, me recuerda mi niñez, saludos hermanos
i dont understand why people complain. if you want more mainstream pieces, you should not be subscribed to this channel. have an open mind.
The song is demonic there’s so many other goodies they could’ve picked instead of one talkin bout Satan. The internet is open to anyone with an opinion if you’re sensitive maybe you should be the one to log off
mexico has an amazing culture. the hair and style are dope. fuck the haters
Psycho Realm @ 4:18...
Sick Side WorldWide
Damn foo I love dance n' listen cumbia rebajada , My Uncles n primos show me how to dance N I love it
I grew up in Houston and have heard Cumbia myself . Love the scene here , honestly I dont think this video represents the whole genre well ...
Cada mundo es una cabeza. Respeten la vida de cada persona.
This ain't Colombian!! This is pure Mexican culture.
No shit. They just adapted to the music in a Monterrey way wey
Kolombias with a K