I loved KR'08. Was just starting to pick up pace, before being axed. I always wanted 08 to have more Hoff cameos, and acknowledge the history of TeamKR and 2000, and explain why those projects failed.
As a life long Knight Rider fan, let me say that 99 percent of us don't claim or recognize Knight Rider 2010 as canon. Many of us don't even claim Knight Rider 2000 as canon even though it was the last time Michael Knight and KITT would be seen working together.
@@pferreira1983 I agree. And a lot of the tech that you see in the Knight 4000 is seen on cars now. Where KITT had a ton of buttons in the original series, the 4000 had basically a digital dashboard where most of everything was digital or controlled by voice command. That's exactly like what you see in Tesla's and other cars today. And then there were the scenes where they could read people's brain waves and see their dreams or what they were thinking about while unconscious. They can do nearly the same thing today and see what part of your brain is active and what you are feeling by hooking electrodes up to your head. The movie was ahead of its time and I personally consider it to be canon. It was just poorly executed.
I really liked Knight Rider 2000. I thought I it was cool that Michael went to working for The Foundation and KITT being re-activated. But, I hated that the trans am was disasembled and KITT was installed in into a lame as 1957 Chevy! The red Knight 4000 design was insanely futuristic, and I actually liked that KITT eventually was removed from the 57 Chevy and installed in to the Knight 400p car. I didn't like the policewoman Shawn character, I thought she was unlikable and unnecessary to the plot. I hated Knight Rider 2010, as it had ZERO connection to the original Knight Rider Show, and Knight Rider 2000 movie. Setting it in a weird post apocoltypic/cyberpunkish future was dumb. The hero guy's girlfriend's mind getting transferred to his car's computer was a absolutely shit concept and made no sense. I was so glad when it got canceled.
@@Jordi7174 I really was so disappointed by it first time I watched it. However as I rewatched it I came to see that I was expecting the original show, instead I got a grown up Robocop version of it. The Knight 4000 I thought was a good vehicle. We just needed to see it more in action.
There was supposed to be a lot of turbo boosting in Knight Rider 2000 -- but the jump car didn't get completed on time. Jay O did build a jump car for the movie (it was a recycled jump car from Hardcastle & McCormick). The movie lacks action because the cars weren't ready when filming began. The '57 Chevy was introduced at the last minute because the red cars were delayed. The jump car from Knight Rider 2000 eventually was completed and became a show car known as "The Tasmanian Devil."
To be honest I've always felt that if the cars were ready in time (which... I gotta say... I feel they overplayed as an excuse; and I've heard the "that's why we had to used the Chevvy" reasoning contradicted in interviews over the years) I fear it still would have been a rather flat and charmless movie. For all of the Turbo Boosts and various other stunts of the original, it had wit in the scripts and a certain charm to it. KR2000 felt, as much as I hate to say it, rather dislikeable all round.
I remembering watching these movies as a kid. KR2010 was depressing, it had nothing to do with the original show. Rumour has it the first script had some reference to the Foundation but it was brief. You might as well keep going, Team Knight Rider next, then Knight Rider 2008. I thought KR08 started to get its act together in the later episodes but it was too little too late
Oh gawd, to relive these two movies was enough, but not sure I want to be reminded of TKR, or to be honest the 2008 series, which I found "a series about a super car" but if not for the name alone I would've probably never even watched, it just had none of the charm or appeal of the original. I've watched the series since first broadcast and rewatched the episodes (literally) hundreds of times, but nothing after that ever captures it. Knight Rider in name only.
@@pjgathergood6987 we share the pain together 😂 I think Knight rider was a product of its time, just not so easy to replicate now. There isn’t that sense of wonder as what we now have in reality almost exceeds the concept of the original show. Cars now can do much of what KITT can do apart from the AI….
KR 2008 made me worried for the original KITT, because in the original show, there was No One named Graiman mentioned, and the fact that one of Two Thousands Microprocessors powered the... pft.. "KITT2" made me get "Creepy Uncle no one talked about" vibes.
John Leekley, the screenwriter of Knight Rider 2010 (with the girlfriend’s mind in a crystal installed in the car’s computer) was later responsible for the series bible of a proposed US version of Doctor Who, which eventually led to the TV movie that we know. One of his concepts was that the soul/life force of a Time Lord elder had taken up residence in the TARDIS’s memory crystals. Leekley clearly loved that weirdly specific idea.
Oh yeah! Wasn't it supposed to be Borusa, the Doctor's "mentor", and the Doctor was hunting for his father, Rassilon? LOL! I think The Master was also going to be an android companion or something, but I might getting that mixed up with the novels.
And btw, isn't it funny how they call it the "US version" of DOCTOR WHO, when it was written, produced, directed and acted by all Canadians and Brits, IN Canada, with the only American aspects being the in-story location ("San Fran" shot in Vancouver) and Eric Roberts as The Master lol
@@stonebaxter It was Borusa (or “Barusa” as the series bible has it), Time Lord president and father of Ulysses who, himself, was the father of both the Doctor (with a human woman) AND the Master. It was a mess. Android Master was in the animated Scream of the Shalka (but, interestingly, was voiced by Derek Jacobi)
@@stonebaxter As someone who had just joined the fandom right before this thing aired I can clear up that it was called the "American" version because it was first shown on and paid for by Fox, so it felt like a show from that Network more than it did one from the BBC or CBC.
The Leekley version reads to all extents and purposes like a whole cloth American remake of Dr Who, whereas the version we eventually got felt at least a little bit like a continuation of the old one instead. Not least because they regenerated from Sylvester McCoy.
Most of Knight Rider 2000 was filmed in and around San Antonio. The climactic scenes were even filmed at the Riverwalk Mall. I realized this after having been to that mall and upon my second viewing of it and happened to be going back to that mall the next winter. I scoured the mall for any evidence of it being filmed there, and sure enough, eventually found an autographed glossy of David Hasselhoff at a Baskin Robbins. Devon's death always bothered me; it was a senseless and useless death.
Personally I thought seeing KITT reimagined as the 57 Chevy looked way cooler than that red monstrosity. Would have been better seeing the Chevy upgraded and Michael kicking ass in that.
While I agree, this would have been nixed for two reasons: 1) Using an older car would offer no merchandising or car sponsorship deals and 2) A show like Knight Rider goes through a lot of cars. The original series went through 20 Trans Ams, so setting up a potential new series with a 40 year old car as the main stunt vehicle would make it a ...knightmare to find cars to trash.
So funny. I bought the Knight Rider Mill Creek DVD box set for $20 at Walmart a few days ago, so I've begun watching the first season. And so I decided while I'm sitting here watching youtube videos to search for you to rewatch your Knight Rider video from a few weeks/months ago and I see that you've just now posted this one. Excellent timing. And a cool look into movies I'm not going to be watching. Lol. 🙂
I had friends come over to watch KR 2000 and we were hyped. Instead we got traumatized by a washed up Michael, dismantled KITT, murdered Devon and no action. It was like seeing the characters from the original in a different universe.
@@blowersho2017 I really was disappointed by KR 2000 when I first watched it. However as I've rewatched it I'm come to appreciate maybe it not meeting my expectations was for the best.
@@dragnet53 That would be good. If they did? Would they be able to explain 🤔 or what happened to the original K.I.T? Do you think there might continue on with new episodes so they can't continue. When if they do continue with more episodes?
I had hoped to enjoy the 2008 series reboot than I did. 🤷🏻♀️(Not that the series was awful. Maybe I expected more? 🤔) The Shelby was gorgeous, and a very good choice for the reboot. I quite liked Val Kilmer as the voice of KITT. Back then I bought the 08 series DVD, so I think I’ll give it a rewatch again. 🙂 I really do enjoy the original series for the pure cheesiness. However my heart will always be with the series Viper.
Fun fact, the car from Knight Rider 2010 sits in a junkyard in Pearsonville, CA. Here are the exact coordinates, you can see it in the satellite photo and from Street View: 35.80234168918084, -117.87216148629618 The Street View photo is from March 2022, so it's probably still there.
This is so interesting (and strange), around here (in the German-speaking region where many titles are adjusted) Knight Rider 2010 did not have that name, it was called "Metal Force - Apocalypse in L.A." , so I never even knew this movie was "related" to Knight Rider until now. And to be fair, the German title was better in this case 😂.
Great and funny review. Seen a couple of yours reviews now, well I’ve binge watched a few and have to say that you have earned yourself a extra subscriber. Keep it going mate.
Great video! Didn't even know about KR2010! Please cover the other two Knight Rider's as well (Team KR and the one from the 2000's with Val Kilmer as the voice).
Knight Rider 2008 is the one you're referencing. The ONLY one who ever came close to resembling the original series was Knight Rider 2000. OH and Devon Miles wasn't kidnapped, He was with Maddock out on a test run with the new car. As they finished their post drive conversation, Devon walks back to the office, and THIS IS where he was pistol whipped and left unconcious. It was Watts, in the hospital ER alone with Devon. Watts had overdosed Devon with a lethal mix of sedatives. Watts had said "Sweet dreams" to Devon then, Devon was dead (flatlined)
In the season 1 episode of the first series, Forget Me Not, Michael mentions cruising hamburger joints with his 56 Chevy. Wonder if there was ever a real internal connection. Also wonder if they had buger joints where they finally got that burger together.
I worked on KR2000, on the car crew. The car was built by Jay Ohrberg from new Dodge Stealth coupes, not a Mitsubishi 3000. I was there when he pulled them into the shop for the first time.
@@GODCONVOYPRIME Golllleeee!!! After 30 + years I don’t remember you either. Thing is, Jay Ohrberg, who built the cars, is a longtime friend, and I was at his shop when he pulled them in ad started cutting the ends off. One Stealth had 12 miles, the other had 22 miles. I also arranged the product placement for the Budnik wheels for the cars. All of this was done in California, where the movie WASN’T filmed. Seems my involvement required neither your overview nor your approval. Funny how that works, huh?
@@rickr442 who's idea was to make it so gosh darn ugly? They should have consulted the people who designed The Wraith hero car. That would have been badass.
@@booyakashaboy7250 not sure about that. My info at the time was that the Banshee show car was offered but it’s size- tiny- and it’s drivetrain- complicated- killed the idea. I was surprised at the time that the car was so bland-looking. I also wish that they had gone with taller wheels, at least 17”, because the tiny rolling stock made the car look far worse! The AMT model kit replicated the wheels as 17s and looks waaay better, especially if you modify the stance a bit, to sit lower.
And several years after that Knight Rider would comeback again in the form of Black Mustang with Hasselhoff reprising the roll of Garth Knight after Michael Knight is seemingly killed
I remember the Action Pack time, would watch those new TV Movies and recalled watching Zena and The Legendary Journeys of course i watched Knight Rider 2010.
I actually like Knight Rider 2010 and am sad it never amounted to anything more. The acting was ok, the action pretty good, the car was scrappy but functional but the world was the highlight. I knew before going in it wasn't going to feature Michael & KITT and perhaps that helped me see the film for what it was. Thanks for making this retrospective.
I like knight rider 2010 i wish there where more episodes slowly seeing the car getting upgraded with more weapons and tech all done by dean who owned that scrape yard
@@alecpowers8591 That's a great concept for the show. He had his friend in the junkyard who could've helped him fit his car/girlfriend with modifications to help with any issue he was facing. I mean the original series had the same idea in some episodes but this car was clearly meant to be polished and upgraded as the theoretical series went on.
You cant bring the magic of a time past. TNG, now Picard with terribly old Patrick Stewart and very dark scripts and Knight rider and so many others they try to copy for money or to try and make it happen again and you cant just as we dont use commodore 64 computers like we did and can only show them as vintage now and totally outclassed by new tech. If they try to redo Buck rogers, how will that be done? and with cheesy costumes and disco settings?/ No, it was so good and still is as it is but you cant go back to those happy fun times.....
Knight Rider 2000 was 'ok'...definitely not 'good', but not entirely 'bad'. Knight Rider 2010, on the other hand, was downright HORRIBLE. When it aired, I remember switching channels less then 30 minutes into it...and, honestly, I don't remember *why* I waited so long. Maybe I was hoping it would actually get better, maybe it's because the "next best thing" on that night didn't start until 30min after Knight Rider 2010 started, maybe it's because it took me 30min to realize how horrible it was going to be. Again, I don't remember. What I do remember was wonder, "How can they call this 'Knight Rider', when it has NOTHING to do with KITT?". With the recent 'fad' of bringing back great TV shows from the 70s & 80s, here's to hoping they DON'T bring back Knight Rider...just leave it at it ended, riding off into the sunset, never to be seen again.
I just watched KR 2000 today, what a wild coincidence! I’ll say the character wrap ups were stupid. I just wanted KITT and Michael to get back together and a fair send off for Devon. Was that so much to ask, folks?
I’ve been doing the same thing my name is MICHEAL as well and I get up every day and drive a Mustang that is almost identical to the 2008 model except it isn’t black but Jesus nothing can hang with me on the road not even hellcat mine is supercharged, this show is a very big part of my childhood
I remember the Action Pack. In the US they would show it on WGN. The other show that went to series was Remake of Smokey and the Bandit. Well without the Smokey. And Brian Bloom as The Bandit and Leo from Charmed as his Snowman. I also remember a Midnight Run TV movie with Christopher McDonald as the Robert Deniro character.
It's a copy made of it. Pontiac told the builder Jay Ohrberg to change up the design aspects to make their Knight 4000 distinguishable to the Banshee 4.
I remember these two movies. The channel known as "RTL Klub" (hungarian branch of the german RTL group) once held a "Knight Rider Movie weekend" setting these movies up to be part of a big event for the franchise. 2000 was okay, I loved it, the new car (unless you show me the rear), the return of KITT as a chevy, and the plot being written around the brief reunion of the cast made it feel like a glimpse of their eventual fate. It also had a fun idea: what if we gave cops only stun guns against criminals, who might be fully armed to kill? Would the cops be doomed eventually? On the other hand, my initial impression on 2010 was.... it was creepy, I was confused, and disturbed. And it did not get a direct link to the og series. Or subtle ones to begin with. A fully new cast, a dystopian/post apocalyptic setting, a car cobbled together from random parts, and a gross villain did not help...
Just my own opinion, but I think the reason KNIGHT RIDER 2000 failed was because it concentrated too much on being a final sent off to the original series, instead of being a launch pad for the proposed new show. It should have focused on introducing Shawn McCormick and establishing her as KITT's new driver, but as soon as Michael Knight enters the movie, he immediately becomes the lead character and Shawn is abruptly demoted to a supporting part in her own origin story. Her role becomes no different to the various interchangeable young women who Michael was constantly rescuing in numerous episodes of the original show. I personally think KNIGHT RIDER 2000 would have worked much better if Michael, Devon and KITT hadn't appeared at all. Here's how I believe the story should have gone: Shawn is shot in the head and saved by having an experimental computer chip developed by Knight Industries implanted in her brain. After recovering, she finds herself irresistably drawn to an industrial complex that is FLAG's headquarters. Compelled to break in, she's astonished to find that she instinctively knows where all the security cameras are and how to avoid them, and even somehow knows the pass codes for all the keypad-locked doors. She eventually finds herself in the part of the complex where the Knight 4000 is undergoing final tests, but for the last few weeks - ever since Shawn's operation - the car has stopped responding to commands, despite the fact that the design team can't find anything wrong with it's systems. Shawn is discovered, whereupon the Knight 4000 re-activiates, and the designers realise that since the chip in her brain is identical to the vital components in the Knight 4000's central processing unit, she and the car are permanently linked, essentially sharing the same mind. Shawn is told all about Michael and KITT, and it's explained that Michael and Devon both recently retired. As KITT was considered outdated & about to be replaced by the Knight 4000, Devon - in his last act as head of FLAG before stepping down - gifted KITT to Michael to thank him for his years of faithful service. Now, as the Knight 4000 can't operate without Shawn, the new head of FLAG has no choice but to offer her the job of being Michael's replacement. She accepts, and the first assignment for her and the Knight 4000 is to track down the crimelord who shot her. As for KNIGHT RIDER 2010, at the time of writing I haven't seen it, but I intend to, even if it turns out to be as bad as people say. Because Hudson Leick in a pile of crap is still Hudson Leick.
Dammit I had successfully suppressed the memory of James Doohan's cameo in KR2000. It was such a sad role making him look like a down-on-his-luck actor.
KR2000 should have been titled "Demolition Robocop Woman." Am I hallucinating, or wasn't there another attempt to bring back KR using a nanotech Mustang? WTH was THAT?
I remember watching KR2000 when it first aired on NBC, and had it recorded on VHS. If it weren’t for the “future of 2000” setting, and instead placed in the early to mid 90s where very little had changed, the Sean McCormick-KITT concept could’ve worked. Yes, she has no personality, but I wonder how much of that was direction to behave as a KITT-enhanced human when she wasn’t being an uncomfortable rookie cop, and not her natural style? That being said, I’d love to see your comparison of Viper’s 3 seasons, or to break the “detective-car” genre a little bit, your thoughts on “The Sentinel”.
I always thought the original series pilot was pretty dark. Michael is shot in the face and instead of reconstructing his original face, some eccentric millionaire decides to give him the face of his (supposedly) dead son and expects him to drive around in a highly experimental self-driving car as a vigilante. Most people would need quite a bit of time to recover from something like that, yet Michael is back on the road almost immediately! 😂
The Action Pack. Nice; I releatedly forget about them. The quality really varied, but all of them had a charm to them for some reason, even the terrible ones. Think you'd do an episode on them?
I barely remember any of that Knight Rider 2000 show, Devon dies, the part with the old Chevy and the car could float. I remember seeing an ad for the 2010 show and never saw anything of it.
Hang on, what about the moden knight rider that came out in 2008. Kitt was able to Shapshift and change colour. It even had car in it too (who turned into some kind of robot)
That show was actually kind of cool. Of course it was over the top and a little unrealistic, but that's exactly what it would be. And the cgi in there was acceptable for the time. It's a pity it was discontinued
One thing that catches me about the first part..Devon didn't 'just up and die', he was murdered while in his coma, by a guy injecting air into his IV line. :-/ Also, no mention of the *other* attempted remakes?
If they'd just made the new vehicle black in KR2K, they could have just spliced in footage from the old show whenever they wanted to have KITT turbo boost!
Watching Knight Rider 2000 is always weird for me because I know exactly where it was filmed! The city of the future is a barley disguised San Antonio, Texas. A city I've been to tons of times. It is just so obvious to anyone who's grown up around that area.
KR 2000 is very underrated. It's failure is because it matured the original TV show. As for KR 2010 I wrote an article on Robert Meyer Burnett's website on how interesting if flawed it is. The film strangely reflects what's going on in a number of ways.
I've been searching for years for where i can get hold of a copy of Knight Rider 2010 as, whilst i know it has mixed opinions, i feel like its a great Sunday Afternoon movie to watch. Any ideas where i can find one?
I enjoyed both films and thought they both had potential, but... dagnabbit... Knight Rider is Michael Knight and KITT! Without those two vital ingredients (preferably *WITH* Devon), you don't have Knight Rider. Just rehire Hoff and Daniels, job done!
My mind might be failing, but wasn't there a Knight Rider version with KITT being a Shelby Cobra with a nanotech body (which could change colour and shape and auto-repair instantly) and his voice provided by Val Kilmer?
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Your analysis of KR 2000 is pretty much what I remember thinking at the time. Suddenly Michael is a computer and automotive genius which is what Bonnie and April were for in the original series. The new cast didn't inspire, although Carmen Argenziano as Maddock is a pretty solid actor and probably would have settled into the boss role and it's likely the character's more asshole tendencies would have been toned down over time. I only remember the ads for KR 2010 and it seemed more Mad Max than Knight Rider
Actually Michael was studying computers the whole time he was with FLAG. Remember the time he and KITT were stuck in the desert and he had to turn KITT into a turbo driven vehicle? He had to have had some knowledge at the time to have done this successfully.
@@beauxr.benoit1374 That he could do thanks to a manual that had instructions on how to convert KITTs engine to a ramjet, and not really prior knowledge. Also basically any time he faces a computer his knowledge goes no farther than being able to us the keyboard to type stuff in. In the movie it really came out of nowhere
For those commenters who mentioned it, we will be doing separate videos for Team Knight Rider (1997) and Knight Rider (2008) later on.
The car in Knight Rider 2010 was actually a '94 Thunderbird that had been reskinned to look sort of like a Mustang.
@@HB-C_U_L8R How in the hell did that look like a mustang? 🐎
@@Jordi7174 The front facia was supposed to look like a mustang.
I loved KR'08. Was just starting to pick up pace, before being axed.
I always wanted 08 to have more Hoff cameos, and acknowledge the history of TeamKR and 2000, and explain why those projects failed.
@@HB-C_U_L8R How? 🤯
It was hideous.
The image of KITT tasing James Doohan at the ATM has been stuck in my head for 30 years.
"Star Trek, you idiot!"
Same
"Star of all 11 Star Treks!" Ah, if they only knew...poor Jimmy.
That scene was so much cringe.
Did kitt give Scotty all the power he's got in the stun?
As a life long Knight Rider fan, let me say that 99 percent of us don't claim or recognize Knight Rider 2010 as canon. Many of us don't even claim Knight Rider 2000 as canon even though it was the last time Michael Knight and KITT would be seen working together.
It's not the KR you wanted but KR 2000 was pretty interesting.
@@pferreira1983 I agree. And a lot of the tech that you see in the Knight 4000 is seen on cars now. Where KITT had a ton of buttons in the original series, the 4000 had basically a digital dashboard where most of everything was digital or controlled by voice command. That's exactly like what you see in Tesla's and other cars today. And then there were the scenes where they could read people's brain waves and see their dreams or what they were thinking about while unconscious. They can do nearly the same thing today and see what part of your brain is active and what you are feeling by hooking electrodes up to your head. The movie was ahead of its time and I personally consider it to be canon. It was just poorly executed.
I really liked Knight Rider 2000. I thought I it was cool that Michael went to working for The Foundation and KITT being re-activated. But, I hated that the trans am was disasembled and KITT was installed in into a lame as 1957 Chevy! The red Knight 4000 design was insanely futuristic, and I actually liked that KITT eventually was removed from the 57 Chevy and installed in to the Knight 400p car. I didn't like the policewoman Shawn character, I thought she was unlikable and unnecessary to the plot. I hated Knight Rider 2010, as it had ZERO connection to the original Knight Rider Show, and Knight Rider 2000 movie. Setting it in a weird post apocoltypic/cyberpunkish future was dumb. The hero guy's girlfriend's mind getting transferred to his car's computer was a absolutely shit concept and made no sense. I was so glad when it got canceled.
@@Jordi7174 I really was so disappointed by it first time I watched it. However as I rewatched it I came to see that I was expecting the original show, instead I got a grown up Robocop version of it. The Knight 4000 I thought was a good vehicle. We just needed to see it more in action.
@@Tekkaman1994 I watched KR 2010 a few years ago for the first time and was surprised it had a few things in it that made it relevant to today.
Michael Knight retired from the Foundation for Law and Government (FLAG) and became a lifeguard in California.
lol
After a brief singing career in Germany…
Nah he became a fisherman a knight fisherman
“Knight Fisherman: The follow-up series to Knight Boat” 😂
Yep Baywatch 😂😂
The best thing about the future is now we have videos like these. Seriously. Back when it aired, that was it. And everyone forgot. Lol
You were lucky to catch it on USA Network or Sci-Fi Channel once or twice and record it to VHS.
Watching this in memory of my late mum, who adored the series and watched all iterations in reruns.
However, I don't think she watched the 2010 version, as it was Hasselhoff-less.
@@l.a.gothro3999 I think your mum would agree that this was the Hoff's finest moment...
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I must say - you did an excellent job on this video! Bravo!
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There was supposed to be a lot of turbo boosting in Knight Rider 2000 -- but the jump car didn't get completed on time. Jay O did build a jump car for the movie (it was a recycled jump car from Hardcastle & McCormick). The movie lacks action because the cars weren't ready when filming began. The '57 Chevy was introduced at the last minute because the red cars were delayed. The jump car from Knight Rider 2000 eventually was completed and became a show car known as "The Tasmanian Devil."
I didn't know that they made a Flivver for Dodge. I know the boat was in Orlando.
To be honest I've always felt that if the cars were ready in time (which... I gotta say... I feel they overplayed as an excuse; and I've heard the "that's why we had to used the Chevvy" reasoning contradicted in interviews over the years) I fear it still would have been a rather flat and charmless movie. For all of the Turbo Boosts and various other stunts of the original, it had wit in the scripts and a certain charm to it. KR2000 felt, as much as I hate to say it, rather dislikeable all round.
@@pjgathergood6987 It wasn't what you expected but that doesn't make it a failure.
The H&M jump car was never intended for use in KR 2000. IIRC, Jay made it after the film's airing.
I remembering watching these movies as a kid. KR2010 was depressing, it had nothing to do with the original show. Rumour has it the first script had some reference to the Foundation but it was brief. You might as well keep going, Team Knight Rider next, then Knight Rider 2008. I thought KR08 started to get its act together in the later episodes but it was too little too late
Oh gawd, to relive these two movies was enough, but not sure I want to be reminded of TKR, or to be honest the 2008 series, which I found "a series about a super car" but if not for the name alone I would've probably never even watched, it just had none of the charm or appeal of the original. I've watched the series since first broadcast and rewatched the episodes (literally) hundreds of times, but nothing after that ever captures it. Knight Rider in name only.
@@pjgathergood6987 we share the pain together 😂 I think Knight rider was a product of its time, just not so easy to replicate now. There isn’t that sense of wonder as what we now have in reality almost exceeds the concept of the original show. Cars now can do much of what KITT can do apart from the AI….
KR 2008 made me worried for the original KITT, because in the original show, there was No One named Graiman mentioned, and the fact that one of Two Thousands Microprocessors powered the... pft.. "KITT2" made me get "Creepy Uncle no one talked about" vibes.
From what I understand KITT original made his way into the movie but the studio or producers wanted to distance themselves from Knight Rider.
John Leekley, the screenwriter of Knight Rider 2010 (with the girlfriend’s mind in a crystal installed in the car’s computer) was later responsible for the series bible of a proposed US version of Doctor Who, which eventually led to the TV movie that we know. One of his concepts was that the soul/life force of a Time Lord elder had taken up residence in the TARDIS’s memory crystals. Leekley clearly loved that weirdly specific idea.
Oh yeah! Wasn't it supposed to be Borusa, the Doctor's "mentor", and the Doctor was hunting for his father, Rassilon? LOL! I think The Master was also going to be an android companion or something, but I might getting that mixed up with the novels.
And btw, isn't it funny how they call it the "US version" of DOCTOR WHO, when it was written, produced, directed and acted by all Canadians and Brits, IN Canada, with the only American aspects being the in-story location ("San Fran" shot in Vancouver) and Eric Roberts as The Master lol
@@stonebaxter It was Borusa (or “Barusa” as the series bible has it), Time Lord president and father of Ulysses who, himself, was the father of both the Doctor (with a human woman) AND the Master. It was a mess.
Android Master was in the animated Scream of the Shalka (but, interestingly, was voiced by Derek Jacobi)
@@stonebaxter As someone who had just joined the fandom right before this thing aired I can clear up that it was called the "American" version because it was first shown on and paid for by Fox, so it felt like a show from that Network more than it did one from the BBC or CBC.
The Leekley version reads to all extents and purposes like a whole cloth American remake of Dr Who, whereas the version we eventually got felt at least a little bit like a continuation of the old one instead. Not least because they regenerated from Sylvester McCoy.
Always hilarious to look back on these early 90's visions of the future which were usually just regurgitations of Bladerunner with more neon lights.
The 90s weren't a very imaginative time
These shows look like FMV CD-ROM game cutscenes from the early 1990s stitched together.
Most of Knight Rider 2000 was filmed in and around San Antonio. The climactic scenes were even filmed at the Riverwalk Mall. I realized this after having been to that mall and upon my second viewing of it and happened to be going back to that mall the next winter. I scoured the mall for any evidence of it being filmed there, and sure enough, eventually found an autographed glossy of David Hasselhoff at a Baskin Robbins. Devon's death always bothered me; it was a senseless and useless death.
Don’t quote me in this, but I read on a forum yeas ago, that Devon’s death can be considered non-canon.
Personally I thought seeing KITT reimagined as the 57 Chevy looked way cooler than that red monstrosity. Would have been better seeing the Chevy upgraded and Michael kicking ass in that.
While I agree, this would have been nixed for two reasons: 1) Using an older car would offer no merchandising or car sponsorship deals and 2) A show like Knight Rider goes through a lot of cars. The original series went through 20 Trans Ams, so setting up a potential new series with a 40 year old car as the main stunt vehicle would make it a ...knightmare to find cars to trash.
Agreed the 57 looked more cooler
Well ljudging from your icon and it seems that you don't liike newer cars. They already had a christine. lol
So funny. I bought the Knight Rider Mill Creek DVD box set for $20 at Walmart a few days ago, so I've begun watching the first season. And so I decided while I'm sitting here watching youtube videos to search for you to rewatch your Knight Rider video from a few weeks/months ago and I see that you've just now posted this one. Excellent timing. And a cool look into movies I'm not going to be watching. Lol. 🙂
Stam fine job!
4:30 The abrupt "HUH!?" just cracks me up lol!
I had friends come over to watch KR 2000 and we were hyped. Instead we got traumatized by a washed up Michael, dismantled KITT, murdered Devon and no action. It was like seeing the characters from the original in a different universe.
You wanted the 80's series but you got Robocop instead. 🤣🤣
@@pferreira1983 True and not even a good Robocop like the first flick but more like part 3 which was unwatchable.
@@blowersho2017 I really was disappointed by KR 2000 when I first watched it. However as I've rewatched it I'm come to appreciate maybe it not meeting my expectations was for the best.
@@pferreira1983 I've rewatched it twice and disliked it even more as an adult.
@@blowersho2017 Fair enough. 😂
I would love to see a ultimate knightrider box set including all the movies and and all the shows. It would be Epic.
I loved the Original Knight Rider or the new Knight Rider 2008 TV series where they used a Ford Mustang for the new kitt
They needed more Michael Knight cameos in that series to make it work.
@@dragnet53 That would be good. If they did? Would they be able to explain 🤔 or what happened to the original K.I.T? Do you think there might continue on with new episodes so they can't continue. When if they do continue with more episodes?
I had hoped to enjoy the 2008 series reboot than I did. 🤷🏻♀️(Not that the series was awful. Maybe I expected more? 🤔) The Shelby was gorgeous, and a very good choice for the reboot. I quite liked Val Kilmer as the voice of KITT. Back then I bought the 08 series DVD, so I think I’ll give it a rewatch again. 🙂 I really do enjoy the original series for the pure cheesiness. However my heart will always be with the series Viper.
@@dragnet53 I agree. I think the series would have definitely benefited if he remained series regular.
They should have made Knight Boat, the crime solving boat. Every week there's an inlet, canal or fjord.
the simpsons knight boat
What I found surprising was how in the 2000 movie, K.I.T.T. was sudenly lost his hydrophobia.
KITT says he starts to like the water whilst April removes the gadget at the end of the season 2 episode :)
The Knight 4000's amphibious ability seems better than that of the Knight 2000's. Plus, as explained, KITT isn't really afraid of water anymore.
Did kitt not have a fobia of flying something that Bonnie programmed mmm kind of cruel of her
I never heard about Knight Rider 2010 and if I being honest it looks kinda of fun and how gorgeous was Hudson Leick!!!!
Fun fact, the car from Knight Rider 2010 sits in a junkyard in Pearsonville, CA.
Here are the exact coordinates, you can see it in the satellite photo and from Street View:
35.80234168918084, -117.87216148629618
The Street View photo is from March 2022, so it's probably still there.
This is so interesting (and strange), around here (in the German-speaking region where many titles are adjusted) Knight Rider 2010 did not have that name, it was called "Metal Force - Apocalypse in L.A." , so I never even knew this movie was "related" to Knight Rider until now. And to be fair, the German title was better in this case 😂.
The Knight 4000 car was also in "CHiPs'99".
Yes, in that film it's called the Z2000.
We miss you Ed Mullhare.🌷💖🌸💮🌺🌹
God dam I love the Knight Rider 2000 theme.
It's one of favourite themes. 😊
Knight Rider 2010 is like the Halloween 3 of the franchise.
It's not just a weird looking red car, it's a concept car called the Pontiac Banshee, and it's one of my favorite cars of all time.
If the Knight 4000 was black it would be a perfect successor to the Trans Am IMO
It still would be ugly. The 2008 mustang looked awesome as kitt. Better then that red thing.
Great and funny review. Seen a couple of yours reviews now, well I’ve binge watched a few and have to say that you have earned yourself a extra subscriber. Keep it going mate.
Great video! Didn't even know about KR2010! Please cover the other two Knight Rider's as well (Team KR and the one from the 2000's with Val Kilmer as the voice).
val kilmer could never fill William Daniel's kitt voice
He did for at least a season.
Knight Rider 2008 is the one you're referencing. The ONLY one who ever came close to resembling the original series was Knight Rider 2000. OH and Devon Miles wasn't kidnapped, He was with Maddock out on a test run with the new car. As they finished their post drive conversation, Devon walks back to the office, and THIS IS where he was pistol whipped and left unconcious. It was Watts, in the hospital ER alone with Devon. Watts had overdosed Devon with a lethal mix of sedatives. Watts had said "Sweet dreams" to Devon then, Devon was dead (flatlined)
@@MistressThunder sounds like devon had as pointless and disappointing a death as Luke and Captain Kirk
Knight Rider 2010 was a two hour Dodge infomercial.
There's only 2 Knight Rider that i love which is the original one with David Hasselhoff and Justin Bruening (2008 & 2009).
Nice job on the humor. 😂😎👍 #entertained
I never knew there was a knight rider 2010 it looks more like a mad max reboot with a Franken car with artificial intelligence great video
Thanks for this. I’ve been looking for info on KR 2010. I remember when I first saw it on TV. I was very confused and disappointed.
I was stationed in San Antonio Texas when they were filming this. I remember them shutting down the River Walk to film one of the scenes.
Ooooh, fancy new version of the SF theme music!
Was in high school when I watched KR-2010, had a crush on the actress who played Hannah.
assassin's Creed Rouge has a Shawn McCormick as a Templar. Guess they loved Knight Rider 2000!!!
Guess the narrator didn't like Susan Norman (lead actress in KR2000) very much, he really blasted her acting...
"his name is Jared and he's still looking good"
In the season 1 episode of the first series, Forget Me Not, Michael mentions cruising hamburger joints with his 56 Chevy. Wonder if there was ever a real internal connection. Also wonder if they had buger joints where they finally got that burger together.
7:56. The police sirens sound as if they need new batteries. 😂🤦🏻♀️
The Knight 4,000 was a '92 Pontiac Banshee concept I thought 🤔
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Wow! Now Arizona actually is a barren, lawless wasteland. KnightRider saw the future!
I actually enjoyed Knight Rider 2000. Knight Rider 2010 is an abomination that should have never been made.
I remember seeing the Hoff on one of those revival versions. He did one scene then walked offscreen like he was picking up his cheque.
I'm guessing it's the 2008 version you're referring to.
I worked on KR2000, on the car crew. The car was built by Jay Ohrberg from new Dodge Stealth coupes, not a Mitsubishi 3000. I was there when he pulled them into the shop for the first time.
That's BS I worked on the show and I don't remember you! See I can lie too!🤮🤮🤮🤮
@@GODCONVOYPRIME Golllleeee!!! After 30 + years I don’t remember you either.
Thing is, Jay Ohrberg, who built the cars, is a longtime friend, and I was at his shop when he pulled them in ad started cutting the ends off. One Stealth had 12 miles, the other had 22 miles. I also arranged the product placement for the Budnik wheels for the cars. All of this was done in California, where the movie WASN’T filmed.
Seems my involvement required neither your overview nor your approval. Funny how that works, huh?
Either way the Chrysler mitsu sucked. Should have used a trans am again
@@rickr442 who's idea was to make it so gosh darn ugly? They should have consulted the people who designed The Wraith hero car. That would have been badass.
@@booyakashaboy7250 not sure about that. My info at the time was that the Banshee show car was offered but it’s size- tiny- and it’s drivetrain- complicated- killed the idea. I was surprised at the time that the car was so bland-looking. I also wish that they had gone with taller wheels, at least 17”, because the tiny rolling stock made the car look far worse! The AMT model kit replicated the wheels as 17s and looks waaay better, especially if you modify the stance a bit, to sit lower.
And several years after that Knight Rider would comeback again in the form of Black Mustang with Hasselhoff reprising the roll of Garth Knight after Michael Knight is seemingly killed
Yes team knight rider please
Fun fact: knight rider 2000 was filmed in downtown San Antonio, tx and the harbor side of corpus Christi, tx
I remember the Action Pack time, would watch those new TV Movies and recalled watching Zena and The Legendary Journeys of course i watched Knight Rider 2010.
Hudson Leick😍😍 But theres no way I'd ever watch Knight Rider 2010.
I watched both of these and enjoyed them course I was much younger at the time
I actually like Knight Rider 2010 and am sad it never amounted to anything more. The acting was ok, the action pretty good, the car was scrappy but functional but the world was the highlight. I knew before going in it wasn't going to feature Michael & KITT and perhaps that helped me see the film for what it was.
Thanks for making this retrospective.
I like knight rider 2010 i wish there where more episodes slowly seeing the car getting upgraded with more weapons and tech all done by dean who owned that scrape yard
@@alecpowers8591 That's a great concept for the show. He had his friend in the junkyard who could've helped him fit his car/girlfriend with modifications to help with any issue he was facing. I mean the original series had the same idea in some episodes but this car was clearly meant to be polished and upgraded as the theoretical series went on.
So glad I found this! I remember the 2010 version on the wgn action pack thing lol
You cant bring the magic of a time past. TNG, now Picard with terribly old Patrick Stewart and very dark scripts and Knight rider and so many others they try to copy for money or to try and make it happen again and you cant just as we dont use commodore 64 computers like we did and can only show them as vintage now and totally outclassed by new tech. If they try to redo Buck rogers, how will that be done? and with cheesy costumes and disco settings?/ No, it was so good and still is as it is but you cant go back to those happy fun times.....
Knight Rider 2000 was 'ok'...definitely not 'good', but not entirely 'bad'. Knight Rider 2010, on the other hand, was downright HORRIBLE. When it aired, I remember switching channels less then 30 minutes into it...and, honestly, I don't remember *why* I waited so long. Maybe I was hoping it would actually get better, maybe it's because the "next best thing" on that night didn't start until 30min after Knight Rider 2010 started, maybe it's because it took me 30min to realize how horrible it was going to be. Again, I don't remember. What I do remember was wonder, "How can they call this 'Knight Rider', when it has NOTHING to do with KITT?". With the recent 'fad' of bringing back great TV shows from the 70s & 80s, here's to hoping they DON'T bring back Knight Rider...just leave it at it ended, riding off into the sunset, never to be seen again.
I just watched KR 2000 today, what a wild coincidence! I’ll say the character wrap ups were stupid. I just wanted KITT and Michael to get back together and a fair send off for Devon. Was that so much to ask, folks?
I’ve been doing the same thing my name is MICHEAL as well and I get up every day and drive a Mustang that is almost identical to the 2008 model except it isn’t black but Jesus nothing can hang with me on the road not even hellcat mine is supercharged, this show is a very big part of my childhood
I was always pissed the 4000 didn't come in BLACK.
I remember the Action Pack. In the US they would show it on WGN. The other show that went to series was Remake of Smokey and the Bandit. Well without the Smokey. And Brian Bloom as The Bandit and Leo from Charmed as his Snowman. I also remember a Midnight Run TV movie with Christopher McDonald as the Robert Deniro character.
Great stuff. I really hope you cover the Fall Guy one day
Just noticing that you don't have any A-Team videos. I think you should look into that.
good point.
The car in KR2K was the Pontiac Banshee concept car, I remember building the model of it back then.
It's a copy made of it. Pontiac told the builder Jay Ohrberg to change up the design aspects to make their Knight 4000 distinguishable to the Banshee 4.
I remember these two movies. The channel known as "RTL Klub" (hungarian branch of the german RTL group) once held a "Knight Rider Movie weekend" setting these movies up to be part of a big event for the franchise. 2000 was okay, I loved it, the new car (unless you show me the rear), the return of KITT as a chevy, and the plot being written around the brief reunion of the cast made it feel like a glimpse of their eventual fate. It also had a fun idea: what if we gave cops only stun guns against criminals, who might be fully armed to kill? Would the cops be doomed eventually?
On the other hand, my initial impression on 2010 was.... it was creepy, I was confused, and disturbed. And it did not get a direct link to the og series. Or subtle ones to begin with. A fully new cast, a dystopian/post apocalyptic setting, a car cobbled together from random parts, and a gross villain did not help...
I SAW DAVID HASSELHOFF IN 1982 at LOS Angeles CONVENTION center CAR show.
scotty teams up with kitt now that would have been a tv show!
Just my own opinion, but I think the reason KNIGHT RIDER 2000 failed was because it concentrated too much on being a final sent off to the original series, instead of being a launch pad for the proposed new show. It should have focused on introducing Shawn McCormick and establishing her as KITT's new driver, but as soon as Michael Knight enters the movie, he immediately becomes the lead character and Shawn is abruptly demoted to a supporting part in her own origin story. Her role becomes no different to the various interchangeable young women who Michael was constantly rescuing in numerous episodes of the original show.
I personally think KNIGHT RIDER 2000 would have worked much better if Michael, Devon and KITT hadn't appeared at all. Here's how I believe the story should have gone: Shawn is shot in the head and saved by having an experimental computer chip developed by Knight Industries implanted in her brain. After recovering, she finds herself irresistably drawn to an industrial complex that is FLAG's headquarters. Compelled to break in, she's astonished to find that she instinctively knows where all the security cameras are and how to avoid them, and even somehow knows the pass codes for all the keypad-locked doors. She eventually finds herself in the part of the complex where the Knight 4000 is undergoing final tests, but for the last few weeks - ever since Shawn's operation - the car has stopped responding to commands, despite the fact that the design team can't find anything wrong with it's systems. Shawn is discovered, whereupon the Knight 4000 re-activiates, and the designers realise that since the chip in her brain is identical to the vital components in the Knight 4000's central processing unit, she and the car are permanently linked, essentially sharing the same mind. Shawn is told all about Michael and KITT, and it's explained that Michael and Devon both recently retired. As KITT was considered outdated & about to be replaced by the Knight 4000, Devon - in his last act as head of FLAG before stepping down - gifted KITT to Michael to thank him for his years of faithful service. Now, as the Knight 4000 can't operate without Shawn, the new head of FLAG has no choice but to offer her the job of being Michael's replacement. She accepts, and the first assignment for her and the Knight 4000 is to track down the crimelord who shot her.
As for KNIGHT RIDER 2010, at the time of writing I haven't seen it, but I intend to, even if it turns out to be as bad as people say. Because Hudson Leick in a pile of crap is still Hudson Leick.
Jumping Moses; that is a great idea.
1:42 looks like Picard’s love interest in Lessons.
“I was shot point blank in the head and have no scarring or brain damage at all. Just some memory loss.”
😂😂
Dammit I had successfully suppressed the memory of James Doohan's cameo in KR2000. It was such a sad role making him look like a down-on-his-luck actor.
KR2000 should have been titled "Demolition Robocop Woman." Am I hallucinating, or wasn't there another attempt to bring back KR using a nanotech Mustang? WTH was THAT?
That was the show Knight Rider 2008. Only had one season
Ah, yes. The car that went beyond technology and straight into magic territory when it could transform from a Mustang into a F-150 truck, or a van.
I remember watching KR2000 when it first aired on NBC, and had it recorded on VHS.
If it weren’t for the “future of 2000” setting, and instead placed in the early to mid 90s where very little had changed, the Sean McCormick-KITT concept could’ve worked. Yes, she has no personality, but I wonder how much of that was direction to behave as a KITT-enhanced human when she wasn’t being an uncomfortable rookie cop, and not her natural style?
That being said, I’d love to see your comparison of Viper’s 3 seasons, or to break the “detective-car” genre a little bit, your thoughts on “The Sentinel”.
When I first saw this movie the part that hit deep and I was pissed off at is that they killed Devin
First time I hear about Knight Rider 2010...
I{m still trying to forget Team Knight Rider
I always thought the original series pilot was pretty dark. Michael is shot in the face and instead of reconstructing his original face, some eccentric millionaire decides to give him the face of his (supposedly) dead son and expects him to drive around in a highly experimental self-driving car as a vigilante. Most people would need quite a bit of time to recover from something like that, yet Michael is back on the road almost immediately! 😂
Revenge is a hell of a motivator.
Gonna give Knight Rider 2010 credit for knowing it's schlocky and just going all in on it.
Your H&M reference reminds me- one of the Coyote X cars had a Knight 4000 prototype nose swap, done by the builder of the KR 2000 cars, Jay Ohrberg.
The Action Pack. Nice; I releatedly forget about them. The quality really varied, but all of them had a charm to them for some reason, even the terrible ones. Think you'd do an episode on them?
Both Knightrider movies belongs to my childhood too. There are no bad comments from me.
I barely remember any of that Knight Rider 2000 show, Devon dies, the part with the old Chevy and the car could float. I remember seeing an ad for the 2010 show and never saw anything of it.
7:41 Knight-boat! The Simpsons' writing staff predicts the future yet again 🤓
If Brion James is in it, it’s a good movie!!!
Hang on, what about the moden knight rider that came out in 2008. Kitt was able to Shapshift and change colour. It even had car in it too (who turned into some kind of robot)
That show was actually kind of cool. Of course it was over the top and a little unrealistic, but that's exactly what it would be. And the cgi in there was acceptable for the time. It's a pity it was discontinued
One thing that catches me about the first part..Devon didn't 'just up and die', he was murdered while in his coma, by a guy injecting air into his IV line. :-/ Also, no mention of the *other* attempted remakes?
If they'd just made the new vehicle black in KR2K, they could have just spliced in footage from the old show whenever they wanted to have KITT turbo boost!
Watching Knight Rider 2000 is always weird for me because I know exactly where it was filmed! The city of the future is a barley disguised San Antonio, Texas. A city I've been to tons of times. It is just so obvious to anyone who's grown up around that area.
KR 2000 is very underrated. It's failure is because it matured the original TV show. As for KR 2010 I wrote an article on Robert Meyer Burnett's website on how interesting if flawed it is. The film strangely reflects what's going on in a number of ways.
No the movie sucked
@@juggalogamer8541 KR 2000? Nah it was good.
@@pferreira1983 nahh it wasn't
@@juggalogamer8541 Well that's your opinion. Start a thread by leaving a comment. 😆
Maddock had good job in Stargate SG-1.
For such a simple concept. I don't understand how they keep failing in bringing it back & keeping it on air.
I've been searching for years for where i can get hold of a copy of Knight Rider 2010 as, whilst i know it has mixed opinions, i feel like its a great Sunday Afternoon movie to watch. Any ideas where i can find one?
I enjoyed both films and thought they both had potential, but... dagnabbit... Knight Rider is Michael Knight and KITT! Without those two vital ingredients (preferably *WITH* Devon), you don't have Knight Rider. Just rehire Hoff and Daniels, job done!
Hard Hassel and McCormick 😂
My mind might be failing, but wasn't there a Knight Rider version with KITT being a Shelby Cobra with a nanotech body (which could change colour and shape and auto-repair instantly) and his voice provided by Val Kilmer?
Hold on, we’ve stumbled onto something brilliant: The Notebook, but the thing keeping them apart isn’t Rachel McAdams’ conniving mother and joining the Army during WWII; now what’s keeping them apart is GOJIRA.
Your analysis of KR 2000 is pretty much what I remember thinking at the time. Suddenly Michael is a computer and automotive genius which is what Bonnie and April were for in the original series. The new cast didn't inspire, although Carmen Argenziano as Maddock is a pretty solid actor and probably would have settled into the boss role and it's likely the character's more asshole tendencies would have been toned down over time.
I only remember the ads for KR 2010 and it seemed more Mad Max than Knight Rider
Actually Michael was studying computers the whole time he was with FLAG. Remember the time he and KITT were stuck in the desert and he had to turn KITT into a turbo driven vehicle? He had to have had some knowledge at the time to have done this successfully.
@@beauxr.benoit1374 That he could do thanks to a manual that had instructions on how to convert KITTs engine to a ramjet, and not really prior knowledge. Also basically any time he faces a computer his knowledge goes no farther than being able to us the keyboard to type stuff in. In the movie it really came out of nowhere
@@lydiagalantmotherf Maybe KITT talked him trough it?
I have one thing to say about Knight Rider 2010. What were they thinking?