I think it's incredible watching you pull these off, and then hearing about the ways they could have beat it. Very entertaining, and I don't even ply SC2!
Its not just SC2, its harstem. he's so boring it aids you falling asleep. jks :D actually its because hes sucha good story teller, its like having mum read you a bedtime story.
It's been my ritual as well for the past year or so. The airhorns & harstem's banter about it in this got me good, had a laughing fit in bed last night when just minutes before I was about to drift to sleep. ggs mr. harmstem, great stuff
I remember maining Protoss in Plat for weeks on end and then trying Terran for a bit and making it to Diamond at level 6. I was so disgusted by myself that I've only ever played random since.
rly? I have the opposite experience. I had plat with terran and then tried toss and got plat immediately after 5 quali matches. Though, when playing terran I was mostly focused on general macro, such as building workers/bases, spending money, etc, which works the same way for protoss. Still, just dumb stuff like stalkers into carriers got me plat. I did not know any buildorders, had no idea about making protoss walls etc. I am not even sure that I knew that stargate requires cybercore when started
@@Kurkora_ for me zerg was hard. I even had difficulties spending money. Especially, when you play zerglings, you need to inject like mad. Then, it is hard to get used to the fact that not many units shoot up
@@Kurkora_ With zerg it was hard for me to realise that one builds bases just to produce units, because after playing terran, the idea that once you build a base you need to saturate it with workers stuck hard in my head. It was also hard to understand how many queens I need and what they are actually used for: for creep, for injects or for fighting air. Another thing is that it feels like they have a more complicated tree of technologies, which involves 2 upgrades of the main building. This is not something that you have for terran and toss.
@@dmitry5319 I also have trouble spending my money sometimes but it's not all that bad to have a bit of a bank as zerg because you can spend it very quickly if you just focus on making larva and more bases and in doing so you're accidentally macroing and expanding way more than your opponent. I also found ZvZ quite trivial at the lower leagues. If you just make zergling and banelings and focus on microing them more than your opponent you're gonna end up with more lings and more mmr.
Protoss players GG against cheese because first off, we’re just here for a good time and want to use our cool alien race. But more importantly, we’re smart and realize you don’t get bonus MMR for playing “standard” builds, unlike these sweaty Terrans who spend their entire lives trying to copy a HeroMarine build. So we can appreciate a good cheese, it’s all fair play, and since we’re here for a good time it’s always a good game. Thank you for listening to my TED talk
The lights at those points where you put those Overlords in the last match give me the impression of a giant overlord shadow being projected into the sky. Like a batman signal for the Zerg. Then the game units standing next to it have idea that anyone is there.
Ah I see Harstem is a fine connoisseur of cheeses. I appreciate someone who can identify cheeses and it’s unique flavors. I do prefer watching them applied to people at 5.5k MMR or higher.
Lets be honest here every race have thier supper unit. Protoss-Airtoss vs Zerg and phenix-colousess vs Terrian. Terrians-have Ghosts Zerg- We have some random golfer that play starcraft 2 in his freetime (Serral) TBH all are pretty imba if you ask me
I think Protoss GG because the scout is a big part of the race. If you loose against a cheese is your fault, you don't scout or react correctly. Protoss have a lot of competences to learn to be good. So Protoss now that he is bad. In the other hand, a terran never scout and always does the same. To be good with terran you only need a very solid macro and micro. So if they lose it's only because Protoss OP. They don't understand why you can A+move (despite the fact that they A+move way more) and still win. They know only 2 skills (macro micro), so they don't know that they suck! This is why Terran complain all the time, they don't understand why they loose because of the lack of knowledge, so they need a scapegoat to be reassured
It's very low compared to his protoss MMR, he would have a 98% win rate at that level if he would play seriously with protoss. It is however his actual zerg MMR level.
@@Lightkie There is no higher league, but at that level it's not the league that is considered, but MMR. A top 50 GM is a whole new league compared to 5.4K MMR, and top 10 pro players is yet another league compared to top 50 GM. I heard those rarely do ladder anymore, the system doesn't work at their level.
I thought i was the only one that used Harstem to fall asleep… On the surface it sounds like an insult but man i NEED you to fulfill a primary life function.
I decided when I ran into a 6k player (about +800 MMR from me) to do the 12 pool drone pull (I’d played it like once in three years) to learn how to counter it. I won.
Harstem I think the reason Protoss players are so well mannered are because those who’s mothers raised them to be more empathetic and kind are just simply drawn to the race.😎
I also had the idea that protoss gg more often as they did not invest much effort into the game anyway, so they are less upset when they lose (I played sc2 myself a bit for terran and then got the same mmr with protoss immediately from 5 quali matches, so I would subscribe for protoss being easier, at least in platinum league). The argument that people that invest more time get more professional and hence more polite, I believe, refers only to actual professional players. In fact, there are many pro players with not very professional attitude. For example, Kas rarely admits his mistakes, instead whining about the balance or buildorder luck
As a proud American citizen and Buffet fan I can confidently inform you that his name is pronounced "BUFFet" with stress on the first syllable like when u complain that mothership is underpowered and demand that they BUFF it.
I think zerg cheeses might be more effective because they have played the least cheese from zerg than the other races. I mean everyone runs into cannon rushes right? I don't even know if it counts as cheese when terran does it. They just run in slightly earlier with marines? IDK. Maybe they make extra reapers.
Okay more dumb bgmwss ideas (hope you don’t mind).. selecting the cheapest buildings with the lowest costs, like ghost academies, and placing them near contested push points as decoys to distract opponent’s attacks and attention…. While you focus on more important strategies
People don't gg because they feel they are entitled to their victory. They think they are better than you and you only beat them because you play an unfair race or strategy. And Terran players just happen to have convinced themselves that they play the hardest race and everyone else are unskilled scrubs.
Also amazing that whilst protoss players get all this abuse, protoss never wins anything significant and there are very few protoss players in the top 10 sc2 players. Protoss genuinely doesnt have the tools in its army to match up against the other races.
my favorite sc2 player to watch by far i hope to play against you one day in a tournament and win with the skills ive learned from watching u much love kevin IM HongKongFuii add me on EU im diamond protoss and plat random lets play a game
Protoss players GG the most because they spent the first 8 years of SC2 playing nothing but 1 base all-ins and cheeses in PvP so at this point they're so desensitized to the type of builds that the other races find the most offensive that they GG even under the most frustrating of circumstances. Not only were they victim to the most BS in their mirror matchup, but they legitimately had one of the strongest A move death ball late game army comps for a long time too, so Terrans and Zergs would rather all-in as well than play against their face roll late game comps. In general, if you're going to play Protoss you just have to put up with a lot of crap.
"I'm not proud of the things I did when I was 19" *big smile*
You know it's 2:30 am and I almost fell asleep until you pushed the horn. Now back to full focused watching
I love harstems discussion about different tiers of cheese quality
im hoping for a cheese tier list.
@@Brurgh This is probably the most thumbs up I ever got on a post lol
Dutchman's mind 101
Protoss are well mannered because the
Xel'naga created us with purity of form and essence
Harstem dude that last thirty seconds was pure gold man. Holy crap, this man is a born comedian.
solar beam doesn't need to charge if it's sunny out
I like when you explain how the opponent could have countered the cheese
also, we're still waiting for the GG stats
22:14 Warren Buffet :')
I think it's incredible watching you pull these off, and then hearing about the ways they could have beat it. Very entertaining, and I don't even ply SC2!
So I’m not the only one who watches sc2 to fall asleep. Good to know.
i wake up in the middle of the night to random GSLs all the fucking time. its becoming a problem. my dreams are affected
Its not just SC2, its harstem. he's so boring it aids you falling asleep. jks :D actually its because hes sucha good story teller, its like having mum read you a bedtime story.
It's been my ritual as well for the past year or so. The airhorns & harstem's banter about it in this got me good, had a laughing fit in bed last night when just minutes before I was about to drift to sleep. ggs mr. harmstem, great stuff
@@joemccann1732 I think you can turn off autoplay. Then it’ll just stop when the video ended and you’ll sleep like a baby
I don't even play sc2, but a good Harstem or uthermal video will get me to dream land in no time.
Some cheese my dear? "Oh, yes please!". Here we got cheese for days my darling!
I remember maining Protoss in Plat for weeks on end and then trying Terran for a bit and making it to Diamond at level 6. I was so disgusted by myself that I've only ever played random since.
rly? I have the opposite experience. I had plat with terran and then tried toss and got plat immediately after 5 quali matches. Though, when playing terran I was mostly focused on general macro, such as building workers/bases, spending money, etc, which works the same way for protoss. Still, just dumb stuff like stalkers into carriers got me plat. I did not know any buildorders, had no idea about making protoss walls etc. I am not even sure that I knew that stargate requires cybercore when started
I had the exact same experience switching to Zerg. I guess it has to do with being way more experienced and knowing the weaknesses of your main race.
@@Kurkora_ for me zerg was hard. I even had difficulties spending money. Especially, when you play zerglings, you need to inject like mad. Then, it is hard to get used to the fact that not many units shoot up
@@Kurkora_ With zerg it was hard for me to realise that one builds bases just to produce units, because after playing terran, the idea that once you build a base you need to saturate it with workers stuck hard in my head. It was also hard to understand how many queens I need and what they are actually used for: for creep, for injects or for fighting air. Another thing is that it feels like they have a more complicated tree of technologies, which involves 2 upgrades of the main building. This is not something that you have for terran and toss.
@@dmitry5319 I also have trouble spending my money sometimes but it's not all that bad to have a bit of a bank as zerg because you can spend it very quickly if you just focus on making larva and more bases and in doing so you're accidentally macroing and expanding way more than your opponent.
I also found ZvZ quite trivial at the lower leagues. If you just make zergling and banelings and focus on microing them more than your opponent you're gonna end up with more lings and more mmr.
Protoss players GG against cheese because first off, we’re just here for a good time and want to use our cool alien race. But more importantly, we’re smart and realize you don’t get bonus MMR for playing “standard” builds, unlike these sweaty Terrans who spend their entire lives trying to copy a HeroMarine build. So we can appreciate a good cheese, it’s all fair play, and since we’re here for a good time it’s always a good game. Thank you for listening to my TED talk
thank you for your ted talk. it was well put
29:13 "Ling floods are super difficult to defend and super easy to execute"
*Supply depot has entered the chat*
The lights at those points where you put those Overlords in the last match give me the impression of a giant overlord shadow being projected into the sky. Like a batman signal for the Zerg. Then the game units standing next to it have idea that anyone is there.
I always love it on the cheesiest man alive, When episode starts like: "we doing the drone pull today" and its the only drone pull in the video
I understand that its not always possible to do it, but still, kinda funny lol
haha i am one of those sleep people.. much love, captain sandman!
Me at 3 AM trying to fall asleep cackling at the airhorns
Drone rush in ZvZ is something indeed very nasty, no gg for that :D
"I use you to fall asleep" - sounds dirty but that's me half the time 🤣
Ah I see Harstem is a fine connoisseur of cheeses. I appreciate someone who can identify cheeses and it’s unique flavors. I do prefer watching them applied to people at 5.5k MMR or higher.
I think protoss gg the most is because they are the must cheesier, so they accept get owned by a cheese. Is like live by cheese, die by a cheese! 😂😂
Nice clarifcation at the end! LOL!
Harstem wisdom 21:55 - "Sometimes, being an idiot works out."
Lets be honest here every race have thier supper unit.
Protoss-Airtoss vs Zerg and phenix-colousess vs Terrian.
Terrians-have Ghosts
Zerg- We have some random golfer that play starcraft 2 in his freetime (Serral)
TBH all are pretty imba if you ask me
I also watch your videos to fall asleep, and that horn is hilarious
I think Protoss GG because the scout is a big part of the race. If you loose against a cheese is your fault, you don't scout or react correctly. Protoss have a lot of competences to learn to be good. So Protoss now that he is bad.
In the other hand, a terran never scout and always does the same. To be good with terran you only need a very solid macro and micro. So if they lose it's only because Protoss OP. They don't understand why you can A+move (despite the fact that they A+move way more) and still win. They know only 2 skills (macro micro), so they don't know that they suck!
This is why Terran complain all the time, they don't understand why they loose because of the lack of knowledge, so they need a scapegoat to be reassured
29:00 "I think cheesing with Zerg at the lower level is by far the easiest thing to do."
> 5.4k MMR
It's very low compared to his protoss MMR, he would have a 98% win rate at that level if he would play seriously with protoss. It is however his actual zerg MMR level.
@@Leonhart_93 thatsthejoke.jpeg
To *him* it's a lower level but it's still grandmaster level. There is literally no higher league.
@@Lightkie There is no higher league, but at that level it's not the league that is considered, but MMR. A top 50 GM is a whole new league compared to 5.4K MMR, and top 10 pro players is yet another league compared to top 50 GM. I heard those rarely do ladder anymore, the system doesn't work at their level.
@@Leonhart_93 I'm trying to think of a way that this is changing anything I've said but I fail to see it.
@@Lightkie Perhaps is not changing anything, I was just clarifying and detailing the point.
"I know some people use this to go to sleep"
I feel caught out xD
Podcast with Harstem feat. Harstem would be amazing!
Warren bufee looool
the countdown was actually perfect, because it went: "three, two, one has left the game"
you know the cheese will be real when there is restless leg the whole video going on
Wondering why i got drone rushed 3 times today, Guess I have the Cheesiest man alive to thank for that lmao
Ngl I fall asleep to HarstemCasts every night. Best asmr content.
I thought i was the only one that used Harstem to fall asleep…
On the surface it sounds like an insult but man i NEED you to fulfill a primary life function.
"no one GGs" IS BUMBZ NO ONE TO YOU!? Harstem! *in a condescending voice*
i thought i was the only one, i also use your videos to fall asleep to. love your work sir.
I decided when I ran into a 6k player (about +800 MMR from me) to do the 12 pool drone pull (I’d played it like once in three years) to learn how to counter it. I won.
i love harstem playing ZvT because i can agree with any trashtalk that gets thrown out. no gg from the terran? typical. easy win for zerg? lol & lmao
is it IMBA? never! sc2 is completely balanced and fair in all ways
Was just woken up by the horn. gg harstem, gg
Harstem I think the reason Protoss players are so well mannered are because those who’s mothers raised them to be more empathetic and kind are just simply drawn to the race.😎
"just an innocent protoss player hoping to cannon-rush someone..."
here we get a glimpse into the mind of a Protoss player :D
Terran players deserve what they get lmao what a quote Harstem 2023
are the statistics about which race is the most polite already out ?
quality sleepy go night night content once again
Always love the cheeses ❤ also (Warren) Buffett is pronounced Buff-it
Love the videos Harstem
Anyone have the latest gg count breakdown stats? I can't find it
Yes we all watch a pinch of SC2 so we can daze off late at night
thank you for confirming my suspicions that medivac heal is imba, that will be my next balance complaint for the forums
24:34 But couldn't you just type "bg" into the chat when you sucked at the match before leaving? It would be honest bg for bad game --> from me / you
That was fast wins.
Didn't Hartem announced a new "GG-Statistics-Episode" for the end of last year? Did I miss it?
Nice, got his trash talk in on every race. Well Done.
can you please post the replay for the 2nd game
Protoss is "manner" because to play protoss is to cheese. Protoss players cannot distinguish cheese from normal gameplay so they always gg
This video being 30:00 exactly pleases me.
haha. Harstem got cheesed by the Terran avatar on the Protoss account.
RIP Juaren Buffé
is it imba or do they suck??
8:15 LOL
what is the fastest cheese timewise and win? (by race)
can the Cheesiest Man Alive have a record of this records? and try to beat them?
Love your videos!
Aha!!! You admitted it yourself!!! Zerg is IMBA!!! Send the third game to yourself and get the green IODIS stamp immediately!!!
Harstem submitting IODIS form...
I also had the idea that protoss gg more often as they did not invest much effort into the game anyway, so they are less upset when they lose (I played sc2 myself a bit for terran and then got the same mmr with protoss immediately from 5 quali matches, so I would subscribe for protoss being easier, at least in platinum league). The argument that people that invest more time get more professional and hence more polite, I believe, refers only to actual professional players. In fact, there are many pro players with not very professional attitude. For example, Kas rarely admits his mistakes, instead whining about the balance or buildorder luck
BGMWSS : Mass Senor Tower
must wake up in 6 hrs to go to work...
also.. didnt watch this harstem video so.. bye sleep, i have iportant things to do!
As a proud American citizen and Buffet fan I can confidently inform you that his name is pronounced "BUFFet" with stress on the first syllable like when u complain that mothership is underpowered and demand that they BUFF it.
No, it is pronounced Warren
It is just part of the SC2 meta, Protoss is the most honorable race.
Terrans are just the worst with betrays and backstabbing.
Warren Buffey. Lol can't tell if that was a troll, but you pronounce his last name phonetically.
"I can't think of any worse kind of people than terran players, no offense of course!"
You're a content MACHINE!
ez defence vs low lvl zerg cheeses, but so hard defence vs zealot immo all in or 2 coloss stalker timing push or disruptor push
No One and also none of the others.
you stated that warrn buffett would advise to invest into index funds but really, he would advise us all to invest into Harcoin
the only thing worse than a terran is a pr?toss
I'm one of them but today I came home late so I wasn't sleepy enough hahha
I think zerg cheeses might be more effective because they have played the least cheese from zerg than the other races. I mean everyone runs into cannon rushes right? I don't even know if it counts as cheese when terran does it. They just run in slightly earlier with marines? IDK. Maybe they make extra reapers.
game 2, he just kept droning? lol
i duno about 5k, but i hit 4k the other day with protoss while playing my saxophone
Okay more dumb bgmwss ideas (hope you don’t mind)..
selecting the cheapest buildings with the lowest costs, like ghost academies, and placing them near contested push points as decoys to distract opponent’s attacks and attention…. While you focus on more important strategies
Zerg cheese is the only cheese. unless it's vs terran, then all cheese is fine.
no GGs? Now I'm expecting 3 terrans
creator forgotten
People don't gg because they feel they are entitled to their victory. They think they are better than you and you only beat them because you play an unfair race or strategy. And Terran players just happen to have convinced themselves that they play the hardest race and everyone else are unskilled scrubs.
My theory: Protoss is the least frustrating race to play. Therefore gg‘s are more likely ;)
This is exactly the type of slander that makes Protoss more mentally resilient
usually when im sleeping it ends up playing ur longer videos
first one doesn't count because you didn't say GLGL
Protoss Propaganda at its finest !
Also amazing that whilst protoss players get all this abuse, protoss never wins anything significant and there are very few protoss players in the top 10 sc2 players. Protoss genuinely doesnt have the tools in its army to match up against the other races.
GG harstem! first !
The fascination with "GG" being a sign of good behavior, and no "GG" a sign of bad behavior, at the end of a game is ... strange. Really strange.
kevin, stop being racist! protoss, terran, zerg. There are good and bad in every group.
The Waffle House has found it's new host
Paid actor with anti swarm propaganda
my favorite sc2 player to watch by far i hope to play against you one day in a tournament and win with the skills ive learned from watching u much love kevin IM HongKongFuii add me on EU im diamond protoss and plat random lets play a game
Protoss players GG the most because they spent the first 8 years of SC2 playing nothing but 1 base all-ins and cheeses in PvP so at this point they're so desensitized to the type of builds that the other races find the most offensive that they GG even under the most frustrating of circumstances.
Not only were they victim to the most BS in their mirror matchup, but they legitimately had one of the strongest A move death ball late game army comps for a long time too, so Terrans and Zergs would rather all-in as well than play against their face roll late game comps.
In general, if you're going to play Protoss you just have to put up with a lot of crap.
yeah solar beam sucks, only good with the sun weather effect, then it doesn't need to charge