@@AfricanSunProductions I can't wait for part 2, going to subscribe and like so that I will get the notification. Thanks again, keep up the great work!
@chrischimits6313 it was great time with Christo and Yuri (PH) we hunted 3 big lion 🦁 with my friend family some plain games as well. Hopefully African Safari calling us again. Good luck to you guys for season and Stay safe and healthy 👍 A message from Toronto!!
Great episode, a good example of conservation hunting , maintaining a good gene pool for breeding & putting money back into the local community for much needed projects . More importantly this makes it very hard for the illegal poachers to operate. Lekker work guys!
Thank you Maurice, I appreciate your comment. I agree, the people at Mabula Pro does an excellent job to protect wildlife, habitat and the community around it. It's not always easy to manage. Thanks again for your support, much appreciated.
@AfricanSunProductions I'm not a official guide here in the US but I helped friends over the years and always thought guiding in Africa would be a fun and wild adventure!
Luckily it's not a big problem at all. The animals can take it and although we as humans have ticks on us sometimes it very seldom happens that we get a disease. Everything is treated well enough if you start soon enough. The bigger danger is the lion...lol. Thanks for watching!
Lyme disease is not a concern with these little ticks. There is an easy fix to this issue anyway: My son and I did not get any ticks on us during this hunt as we sprayed our clothes with Permetherin a week before we flew over to Africa. I pack them in ziplock bags (one pair of pants, one shirt and socks into each bag) which keeps them neat and organized. I can squish all the air out of the bags before I seal them up and this uses less suitcase space. The Permetherin is available at Wahlmart or Sportsman's Warehouse etc. and not expensive.
@@chrischimits6313 And it sounds like the PH has been bitten a time or two if he was talking about the stinging sensation when you hop in the shower lol
Gotta respect the lion man he was just trying to survive and glad to see responsible hunters very precise everything to rifle shell collection respect the environment everything love the video
I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed the movie! The hunter and Mabula Pro definitely respect the wildlife and the environment. It was fun working with them both.
I pick them up so the guy coming behind me doesn't have to see my garbage. I enjoy seeing the land in a pristine condition and I just figure that others would do likewise.
I'm glad you want more, I'll do so. The music is needed otherwise it's too much noise from walking through grass, wind noise etc. The footage is as steady as we can do. Everything is filmed in real time, no re-enactment at all. Can't use gimbals because their batteries won't last and the motors will overhead in the desert with all the heat and sand.
Would have been nice to see any trophies you took home. Does the country allow full head taxidermy? I assume the meat goes to locals? Hides get processed where? Dietary considerations possible? Beer available instead of wine or mixed drinks?
Good day Michael. I've often wished that I could add some of the finished taxidermy work to my videos but they just take too long. Sometimes more than two years! I like to have the movies ready between 3 - 6 months. Yes, full taxidermy is allowed. All the meat is used in some way or form, depending on the country even the bones are used or exported to China. Processing of the hides are done by the outfitter and then shipped of to the hunter's taxidermist of choice. Yes, any type of drink is available. When you book a hunt you complete a hunter's request form with drink and dietary requirements. Thank for watching and for you question.
@@AfricanSunProductions How about taking some shots of previously finished taxidermy and explaining just what you told me? Or ... do they ship direct to your customers? For most of us the animals do not look like individuals, even the buffalo with different bosses. The general coloration and mass has direct impact. Do you have Thompson Gazelle? I've done some African animal book covers that with prayer turned out nicely. I give all my leatherwork away and none has come back yet. Ha ! Can send you photos [I keep records that way], if you like. BUT would need to know how to get them to you. Anyway ... thank you for the nice comeback. This year saw me reaching 80 years of age, heat sensitive since around 19, on a retired budget as Motorola technician retiree, and doing hobblidy hoy locomotion moves with a cane sometimes, Africa is a nice place to visit REMOTELY Ha !
Good day Michael. Congrats on the big 80! All the taxidermy is shipped directly to the hunter. Sometimes they'll send me a photo or two or I can see it when I visit them. The last I see of an animals is when I'm done with the photos, or when we are served some excellent venison back in camp. I enjoy making photo books, it's always a special gift to a hunter. I've filmed Thomson's Gazelle a few times. It's worth travelling all the way to Tanzania to find them. There are so many beautiful animals unique to TZ. Thank you for your commnts, I appreciate them and appreciate your suppor of the channel.
Many people argue about this safaris,how people come from abroad to hunt big game animals,and how is not a challenge to go around with many armed people and a guide to put you on a right track. You need to be aware of the fact that africa is not average forest in europe where the most dangerous animal is most likely a wild boar. African savanna is ridled with dangerous animals and apex predators like lions who stalk they prey in the bush,so you cant just let a hunter to just roam around because most likely he would get killed or hurt badly,thats why is important to have a guides who known terrain and wild animals behavior. Other important thing is hunting of lions keeping they population healthy,because everyone is in best interests to keep them that way. Hunting tourism is a main source of income for that,without hunting there is almost no i reason to protect lions because they are massive predators that are big threat to livestock and humans alike.
Sure appreciate your insight on hunting dangerous game. Manly don't understand it very well but are quick to submit a strong opinion without any first hand knowledge or experience. You seem to be an exception and it's refreshing!
This may sound a bit strange to you, but I'll give your question a shot; You take care of what is valuable to you correct? There is an old saying that "no one ever washed a rental car". Hunting lions keeps their value very high. The indiginous people who live in Africa hate lions and want them all killed because lions are worthless to them. All a lion does is kill the native person's cattle and has negagtive value. In fact, much of the lions decline has much more to do with Africans wanting them gone because of the damage the lions do to their livelyhood. Hunting, on the other hand, gives lions (and other wild game too) a very high degree of value since the hunts are expensive. If hunting was outlawed in Africa, then the lions (as well as many other species of animals) become "rental cars". They cease to have high value and then their population declines. Photo safaris do provide a minor degree of income and therefore, a reason to protect the animals, but they simply do not compete with the hunting industry for producing profit. I sincerely hopes this helps you see hunting from another perspective. One that is based on the nature of people and reflects reality over in Africa. As for the back story about the lion, I only know that he was wild and cagey. He crossed over on top of our tracks many times through out the two days we tracked him. At times, I felt like he was hunting me. But, I don't know much more about that specific lion to provide you with a back story about him. Thank you for watching and for your interest.
Trophy hunting can generate substantial economic benefits, community and political support, and have direct benefits for threatened species and biodiversity by: • Compensating for the costs of living with wildlife that are destructive and/or threaten human safety; • Offsetting opportunity costs of alternative and more destructive uses of wildlife habitat; • Generating economic benefits that improve livelihoods and thereby provide incentives to communities, land owners and other users to manage their wildlife sustainably and to choose wildlife conservation as a preferred land use option rather than other uses, such as commercial agriculture; • Generating revenues for government agencies that improve their ability to manage wildlife; • Enabling direct vigilance and support by trophy-hunting operations to reduce wildlife poaching and habitat alteration; and • Engendering philanthropic and political support for biodiversity conservation by hunters who value both the hunting opportunity and the non-monetary values of conservation. These mechanisms often work in concert with nature tourism, direct payments for biodiversity conservation, and other forms of support for nature conservation. WWF accordingly encourages the use of multiple methods, where possible, to diversify and increase incentives for conservation. As such, even the WWF holds the position that trophy hunting is a potential conservation tool that can be considered as part of an overall conservation strategy, including for threatened species (here encompassing the IUCN categories of vulnerable, endangered and critically endangered.)
I have to wonder if any of your clients are aware of the 'TILLEY' clothing line. Two outfits in a carry on bag would handle their requirements. Wash one each evening and put it out to dry. Wear the other one and repeat. They are specifically geared to Africa type weather from what I understand and most of them have secret pockets for $$$ etc as well. I have two of their hats. That exposure and their lifetime guarantee with replacements when needed [on the hat anyway] testifies to excellent workmanship. [forget the sometimes off color jokes he sends with the hat ... no need for that professionally in my opinion. ] Anyway, I have two of his hats. [no commission involved here]
I've heard about Tilley before but never seen any hunters come over with the brand. Maybe they should sponsor a few sets for my cameramen and we can get some exposure for it. At this stage I wear Pnuma jackets, great stuff also.
@@AfricanSunProductions Give Tilley an email and ask them for a sales sample in one of the cameraman's size. I talked to the owner once and his sales personality seemed responsive enough to consider it. Ask for a few catalogues to have lying around as well? But maybe thats a bit much ... like adding a tourist shop off the dining area? Still ... you are the one on point. Thank you for the response.
Thanks for the idea. I might contact them later this month, a bit busy now. Will think it through. If I wear their product it will be good marketing. The Pnuma jackat I used for the 2022 and 2023 season was good advertising and a few clients bought the same jacket. Thanks again for the support.
All the hunts I film are part of sustainable utilization programs designed to increase wildlife numbers as a whole, by generating funds needed to protect the land and habitat where thousands of animals live and breed.
I appreciate your honest question; it is so uncommon to see an honest question on this topic. So I will do my best to give you an honest answer. We have a tendency as humans to take care of what we deem valuable. Conversly, we have a tendency to disregard what is not valuable to us. That's just human nature and I assume we can agree on that. So hunting lions gives these animals significant value ($50,000 for a free range lion hunt). With that value directly associated to the lion, there is much more care taken to keep the lion population up. Photographic safaris (where the animals are not hunted) do generate value for the animals, but they don't come close to generating the same level of value (who ever heard of someone paying $50,000 to take a picture of a lion?) So while hunting might seem like it only reduces the lion population, it actually creates significant value to the animals. Because we have that human tendency to take care of what is valuable, the lion population benefits as long as we abide by a sustainable model in taking out a limited quantity hunting. That way, the whole population can continue to exist and even flourish because they are valuable. Thank you for asking a real question.
@@chrischimits6313 Thank you for the detailed explanation, Chris. Unfortunately many won't see the positive side of hunting like you and I do. You've been over to Africa so many times that you know exactly how things work and can therefor explain it so well.
Lions are hunted in a controlled manner and only in specific places for that purpose, right? And the chosen individual is not just anyone in front of him, right?
@@AfricanSunProductions wonderlike video , mooi roan daai , en daai vet pofadder , hel, en die kalahari lyk mooi groen en die gras mooi in saat , ai die videos vat my darem huis toe duisende dankies , en kyk daai leeu julle ook maak werk vir hom, goeie paar km agter hom aan geloop , martin baie dankie vir die wonderlike werk wat jy en jou span doen , hou so aan , sien uit na die volgende videos , kalahari groete
Ja nee die Kalahari was baaaaie mooi, soos gewoonlik. Ek is bly jy het dit so geniet. Dankie dat jy altyd my videos geniet en altyd kommentaar lewer, ek waardeer dit!
@@AfricanSunProductions enige tyd mater , ekke gee nie voor nie ekke geniet dit waarlik so baie , en de manier hoe jy jou videos doen trek my aandag , want jy is nie net oor die skoot wat gevang word nie , maar die klein dingietjies ook , soos n skoenlapper , of ry miere , of die gras sade , dit maak die video soveel meer intresanter , love dit ,
Dankie weereens Appels. Ek is bly mense sien dit raak. Die jag is nie net oor sneller trek nie, daar is soveel meer wat mens MOET raaksien en waardeer. Die skepping is mooi en is groot.
The one thing I really didn’t like was he liked shooting on a moving animal. If he’d have waited that could have been a better shot on specially the lion
I agree, standing dead still is preferred. If you are close enough you can take the shot though. Luckily all worked out. Thanks for watching, and thanks for your comment.
I certainly agree with your opinion. Having said that, we tracked that lion for two days and kept jump starting him out of the tall grass. He would not give us a still opportunity, so the P.H. finally told me that if we jumped him up again, to take a moving shot on him. I've not hunted lions previously, so I followed his direction without questioning it.
Yes sir, listen to your PH. There is a difference between a moving shot and a running shot. A good hunter can still make a good shot on a moving target, but yes it is preferred to have the prey stand still.
Looks to me like the Lion was not a part of a pride. So, even though there is no actual meat gained in this kill. It does help with the finances of the African Continent. Me, I hunt for meat or animals that may destroy my cabbage patch, or someone else's. I don't think it's fun to hunt particularly although it is exciting. Like I don't want to catch coarse fish all day, then put them back. All they get is a sore mouth. But would go pike fishing to be able to eat the pike after.
Good day. Thank you for watching and for your comment. I agree, hunting and fishing should have a purpose bigger than the excitement part. That is why these hunts are so important here in Africa. The meat is used, yes even lion meat, but more importantly we can generate the needed funds to protect the land and habitat where thousands of animals live and breed.
I understand that the money from these hunts goes towards conservation and is the biggest anti poaching method there is. My question is what is the motivation for a hunter to kill this animal. They go with 10 armed men for protection and shoot it from a distance. Lions are not food, pests or vermin. What reason does a man have to go and kill this animal?
You have a valid question, I'll try and answer to the best of my ability. The motivation is different for each person. Some would like to test themselves in the face of danger, some would like to see the mount in their office of living room as a memory, some actually do it to help the conservation effort. The danger part is also relative to each situation. Sometimes there are a group of armed men, normally it is only the hunter and one guide. This depends on regulations for the country or area. Lion meat is still used, it's a delicacy in many countries and in the other countries it is processed with other meat and nothing goes to waste. In some areas there are problem animals, normally the older males that kill cattle. These cats are then hunted in this manner to prevent the villagers from sorting out the problem themselves. If they do it it's normally with poison and it will kill dozens if not hundreds of animals and birds. I hope this explains it a bit. I haven't hunted one, nor will I ever so I might not be the right one to explain it.
South Africa requires that anyone hunting must retain the services of a licenced professional guide (PH). The PH always carrys a rifle to back up the hunter on dangerous game such as lions, buffalo, hippos and elephants. On this particular hunt, I had a PH and two trackers to help find the lions tracks in the tall grass. The cameraman followed along behind to film the hunt for me. We got the lion at 50 yards from ourselves. That seemed really close to me since I have seen how fast a lion can run when they charge. I have hunted since I was 9 years old, and I enjoy it very much. I totally understand not being familiar with hunting and therefore, not understanding why someone like me would want to do this. For me, there were two main reasons; 1) to try and see if I could be successful in hunting a difficult animal that is totally at home in it's own environment and 2) to face my own fears in an honest and comprehensive manner. Some people jump out of planes with a parachute on, others scuba dive to great depths. I have always hunted, so I went on this lion hunt. Not sure if this is a sufficient answer or not, but its what I could convey in this media.
@@chrischimits6313Thank you for you answer. I am very familiar with hunting, where I am from we hunt rabbit, wild boar, deer and pheasant. We have a great time doing it. In the end the entire animal that we hunt is used for food. We also have lynx, whose numbers are so little they are not pests. No one I have ever spoken to has a desire to hunt a lynx, we respect them as predators and part of the ecosystem. A lion to most people is a special animal and has an intrinsic value. While others jump from planes and scuba dive, that doesn’t involve killing an animal for my own thrill and pleasure. Testing yourself and your fears would be better accomplished by going alone, like the Masai in Kenya where a lone young man with a spear would hunt a lion as an initiation ritual to become a man. I can’t find a situation where a hunter was injured by a lion while safari hunting. What I am trying to understand is the mind of a trophy hunter, to put it bluntly, you think that taking the life of such an animal is worth it simply because it will bring you pleasure? And do you think there is something wrong with taking the life of a living creature where the sole reason for it is the persons satisfaction?
Hi @rabotnicif. Your comment seems to contradict what you've said initially. You said you do understand the conservation side of these hunts, but then you also say that the hunter does it for only his own thrill and pleasure. You cannot separate the two, they work together. The hunter can have the challenge of the hunt AND contribute to conservation at the same time. You can respect an animal and his intrinsic value while having it mounted on your wall, you can remember that your money is used to help protect the species as a whole, the meat and even the bones are utilized, the habitat is protect etc. I don't think you know much about the Masaai at all. People think they hunt alone, but they don't. I've spoken to many Masaai and they've always gone as a group, each taking as many spears as he can carry. They create a porcupine out of their prey and yes, they also treat it like a trophy afterwards, they are also happy about their accomplishment. The difference is that when Masaai hunt predators they wipe them out, there are almost no lion left in Masailand. They torture their prey so much that you can't post the videos anymore even IF they allow you to film, which they normally don't. RUclips definitely won't allow to show it because it's too cruel and it's not linked to a conservation plan like our hunts are. Look at this: www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/12ocb52/tribesmen_spear_hunting_a_hippo_in_africa/?force_seo=1&xpromo_edp=enabled And this: ruclips.net/video/8ooF7J2OqBs/видео.html Also, there has been many accounts of hunters on safari that got killed or mauled by lion, you just need to do better research. Even on my channel, which you are commenting on, there is a video of me personally getting mauled by a lioness. You see, we don't do this for the fun of the thrill, we do it because it needs to be done.
All the hunts I film are part of sustainable utilization programs designed to increase wildlife numbers as a whole by generating funds needed to protect the land and habitat where thousands of animals live and breed.
So sad about the lion. And quite interesting how your tribe believe people against hunting endangered species for your egos are ignorant. I guess ignorance is relative.
And what justification would there be for taking down that specific lion apart from bragging rights and the fallacy of a bribe in the name of " conservation"??@@AfricanSunProductions
The fact that sustainable utilization hunting is the backbone of conservation here in Africa. If these foreigners didn't come to hunt a selected few animals we won't be able to afford protecting thousands others.
I do agree, both species are special, this is why we have sustainable utilization programs in place all over Africa to help protect these species and increase their numbers where needed. Thanks for watching and for your concern.
You get these kind of moronic comments when people is ignorant and stupid and got no idea what they are talking about. Instead of going and educate themself( to lazy to do that) they make utter morons of them selfs uttering a stupid comment like that!
Good day and thanks for watching. I think it went very well and that Gerrie is an excellent dangerous game PH. I would like to know more about why you think otherwise though. It's always good to listen to opinions and learn from it.
@@AfricanSunProductionsI've always been impressed by African PHs. It's so different than the hunting experience here. It's neat to see the way they do things
Definitely. We do have some good ones around and I'm fortunate to work with many of them. Gerrie and the Mabula Pro team are amazing, every time. Where are you based, Steve?
It's not about that. It's about the biggest conservation program we have. These foreigners fund the protection of land and habitat where thousands of animals live and breed.
Sorry, I can't do that. When doing real-time recording like these, you can't carry around loads of equipment. The normal sound is mostly wind and grass noise. Nobody wants to listen to that. I can drop the volume a bit if that will help.
You don't seem to be asking a question. Only sharing your highly biased & unsolicited opinion. Maybe try watching the Lion King movie instead of hunting videos.
Hi Chris. Yes, most of these people have incorrect opinions because they are uninformed about the facts of Africa. I don't mind teaching them if only they we willing to listen.
All the hunts I film are part of sustainable utilization programs designed to increase wildlife numbers as a whole by protecting the land and habitat where thousands of animals live and breed.
Tell me why cattle , sheep, chickens etc are not on the endangered list, and never will be ? Because they are UTILIZED. Ban all slaughter and utilization of cows today and see how many are left next year. It’s so obvious and yet some people still don’t get it.
Sandman, I agree 100%. The problem isn't that others don't get it, they don't WANT to get it. Emotion trumps facts and that will be the ruin of conservation through hunting. Thanks for watching and thanks for your input.
Why hunt in this day and age???? When all us humans should be doing is preserve and conserve and protect. In my opinion hunting is just feeding a huge ego....quite evil in my eyes
It's even needed more in these days than before. In Africa we need a lot of funding to do conservation and fight poachers. The best source is hunting. No wildlife organization like PETA or WWF contributes to this. In fact, even WWF agrees that controlled hunting is beneficial to wildlife as a whole.
That was a great, thank you for taking us along on the hunt. Excellent video!
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Next weekend, we'll release Part 2.
Thanks for watching!
@@AfricanSunProductions I can't wait for part 2, going to subscribe and like so that I will get the notification. Thanks again, keep up the great work!
@@JeepsCafe Great, thank you!!
Awesome 🔥
Thanks 🔥. I hope you enjoy the new movie!
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The bodies on those roan are absolutely huge! Roan and sable are built like body builders 💪
So true! Every time I get close to a Roan I'm amazed. And an added bonus is they are very tasty...
The horns on this particular Roan were also huge. 34" long.
@@chrischimits6313is this the hunter? Good job on the hunt 👍
I had Mabula Pro Safari in 2013 with Christo Gomez, it was awesome experience great 👍 services!!
We agree! Always a pleasure with Mabula. Any plans to come back?
I certainly agree with you! Christo is a rare outfitter that truly delivers every time on everything.
@chrischimits6313 it was great time with Christo and Yuri (PH) we hunted 3 big lion 🦁 with my friend family some plain games as well. Hopefully African Safari calling us again. Good luck to you guys for season and Stay safe and healthy 👍
A message from Toronto!!
Love this 🙌
Thanks for watching.
Great movie Martin professional
Thank you Joseph, much appreciated!
Great work nice to meet you🥰🔥
Thanks for watching!
Great hunt and a nice journey through the Kalahari 😎👍
Ps: You should have said no to the piggy back ride 😆That old guy was struggling 🥵🤭
Hahaha, I doubt there was the option to say no! Thanks for watching and for your support.
Great episode, a good example of conservation hunting , maintaining a good gene pool for breeding & putting money back into the local community for much needed projects .
More importantly this makes it very hard for the illegal poachers to operate.
Lekker work guys!
Thank you Maurice, I appreciate your comment. I agree, the people at Mabula Pro does an excellent job to protect wildlife, habitat and the community around it. It's not always easy to manage.
Thanks again for your support, much appreciated.
Very intense video, what an experiece, thanks you all, like the Ph, hunter, and ASP . Nou vir die bokke en Ierland game, thanks Martin.
Ek dink dit gaan 'n erg lekker game wees!
Thanks for watching Dirkie 🤙
Love to guide there would be absolutely amazing!!
Great place for sure. Where do you normally guide?
@AfricanSunProductions I'm not a official guide here in the US but I helped friends over the years and always thought guiding in Africa would be a fun and wild adventure!
It is both of those things. I hope you can make it over here to try it out. Guiding in the States are way different though.
Great hunt and nice video.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the comment.
video production quality is outstanding; awesome craftsmanship. awesome hunt too!
Much appreciated! It really was a great hunt. I hope you clicked the Thumbs Up 👍🏻 🙂
Awsome video what is those insects that stings is it ticks?
It's a type of tick, called Tampan. Ugly thing! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornithodoros_savignyi
7:44 sooo many ticks! 😬 Is it pretty sketchy having to worry about possible Lyme disease?
Luckily it's not a big problem at all. The animals can take it and although we as humans have ticks on us sometimes it very seldom happens that we get a disease. Everything is treated well enough if you start soon enough. The bigger danger is the lion...lol.
Thanks for watching!
Lyme disease is not a concern with these little ticks. There is an easy fix to this issue anyway: My son and I did not get any ticks on us during this hunt as we sprayed our clothes with Permetherin a week before we flew over to Africa. I pack them in ziplock bags (one pair of pants, one shirt and socks into each bag) which keeps them neat and organized. I can squish all the air out of the bags before I seal them up and this uses less suitcase space. The Permetherin is available at Wahlmart or Sportsman's Warehouse etc. and not expensive.
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What does the Permethrin do? Kinda like a mosquito repellent but for ticks?
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And it sounds like the PH has been bitten a time or two if he was talking about the stinging sensation when you hop in the shower lol
Exactly. It's not the perfect repellent but it sure does help a lot.
Hello. Please let me know Chris's bolt rifle make and caliber. Thank you, Andrew
The rifle is a Rigby chambered in .416 Rigby. Shooting Barnes TSX 400 grain copper bullets.
Thanks for the info Chris!
Gotta respect the lion man he was just trying to survive and glad to see responsible hunters very precise everything to rifle shell collection respect the environment everything love the video
I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed the movie! The hunter and Mabula Pro definitely respect the wildlife and the environment. It was fun working with them both.
43:30 why do they pick up the shells off the ground when they reload?
Some people re-use the shells, some calibers are hard to find. Others collect the shells as momentos.
Thank you for watching!
I pick them up so the guy coming behind me doesn't have to see my garbage. I enjoy seeing the land in a pristine condition and I just figure that others would do likewise.
Great stuff, thank you Chris!
How much do you charge to film hunts? If and when I get the chance to go to Africa I’ll definitely be giving you a call
Good morning! Thanks for watching. Please send me an email to info@africansunproductions.com. I'll forward all the needed info.
You will have the best video effer!
41:11
The best bit!
@@AfricanSunProductions what did you do to lion after hunting him?
@@afrosamuraiwarrior All the meat, skin and even the bones are used. Lion meat is a delicacy in many countries.
@@AfricanSunProductionsokay. Please continue to upload more videos on hunting lions. Minimise the music during hunting and steady the camera shots
I'm glad you want more, I'll do so. The music is needed otherwise it's too much noise from walking through grass, wind noise etc. The footage is as steady as we can do. Everything is filmed in real time, no re-enactment at all. Can't use gimbals because their batteries won't last and the motors will overhead in the desert with all the heat and sand.
What rifle, calibre and round does Chris and the PH use in this video?
The rifle is a Rigby 'Big Game' model chambered in .416 Rigby. The rounds were Barnes TSX 400 grain copper.
@@chrischimits6313 Purchased new what would a box of these rounds cost US Dollars? [i.e. how much per round]. Is it feasible to do your own reloads?
Would have been nice to see any trophies you took home. Does the country allow full head taxidermy? I assume the meat goes to locals? Hides get processed where? Dietary considerations possible? Beer available instead of wine or mixed drinks?
Good day Michael. I've often wished that I could add some of the finished taxidermy work to my videos but they just take too long. Sometimes more than two years! I like to have the movies ready between 3 - 6 months.
Yes, full taxidermy is allowed. All the meat is used in some way or form, depending on the country even the bones are used or exported to China. Processing of the hides are done by the outfitter and then shipped of to the hunter's taxidermist of choice.
Yes, any type of drink is available. When you book a hunt you complete a hunter's request form with drink and dietary requirements.
Thank for watching and for you question.
@@AfricanSunProductions How about taking some shots of previously finished taxidermy and explaining just what you told me? Or ... do they ship direct to your customers? For most of us the animals do not look like individuals, even the buffalo with different bosses. The general coloration and mass has direct impact. Do you have Thompson Gazelle? I've done some African animal book covers that with prayer turned out nicely. I give all my leatherwork away and none has come back yet. Ha ! Can send you photos [I keep records that way], if you like. BUT would need to know how to get them to you. Anyway ... thank you for the nice comeback. This year saw me reaching 80 years of age, heat sensitive since around 19, on a retired budget as Motorola technician retiree, and doing hobblidy hoy locomotion moves with a cane sometimes, Africa is a nice place to visit REMOTELY Ha !
Good day Michael. Congrats on the big 80!
All the taxidermy is shipped directly to the hunter. Sometimes they'll send me a photo or two or I can see it when I visit them. The last I see of an animals is when I'm done with the photos, or when we are served some excellent venison back in camp.
I enjoy making photo books, it's always a special gift to a hunter.
I've filmed Thomson's Gazelle a few times. It's worth travelling all the way to Tanzania to find them. There are so many beautiful animals unique to TZ.
Thank you for your commnts, I appreciate them and appreciate your suppor of the channel.
Many people argue about this safaris,how people come from abroad to hunt big game animals,and how is not a challenge to go around with many armed people and a guide to put you on a right track.
You need to be aware of the fact that africa is not average forest in europe where the most dangerous animal is most likely a wild boar.
African savanna is ridled with dangerous animals and apex predators like lions who stalk they prey in the bush,so you cant just let a hunter to just roam around because most likely he would get killed or hurt badly,thats why is important to have a guides who known terrain and wild animals behavior.
Other important thing is hunting of lions keeping they population healthy,because everyone is in best interests to keep them that way.
Hunting tourism is a main source of income for that,without hunting there is almost no i reason to protect lions because they are massive predators that are big threat to livestock and humans alike.
Well said John. I have nothing to add! Thank you for watching and for your support.
@@AfricanSunProductions No problem,thank you for amazing safari videos.
Sure appreciate your insight on hunting dangerous game. Manly don't understand it very well but are quick to submit a strong opinion without any first hand knowledge or experience. You seem to be an exception and it's refreshing!
Lions are on a verge of extinction so how does a hunting them helps there population? Also you just go and hunt without any back story about the lion?
This may sound a bit strange to you, but I'll give your question a shot; You take care of what is valuable to you correct? There is an old saying that "no one ever washed a rental car". Hunting lions keeps their value very high. The indiginous people who live in Africa hate lions and want them all killed because lions are worthless to them. All a lion does is kill the native person's cattle and has negagtive value. In fact, much of the lions decline has much more to do with Africans wanting them gone because of the damage the lions do to their livelyhood. Hunting, on the other hand, gives lions (and other wild game too) a very high degree of value since the hunts are expensive. If hunting was outlawed in Africa, then the lions (as well as many other species of animals) become "rental cars". They cease to have high value and then their population declines. Photo safaris do provide a minor degree of income and therefore, a reason to protect the animals, but they simply do not compete with the hunting industry for producing profit. I sincerely hopes this helps you see hunting from another perspective. One that is based on the nature of people and reflects reality over in Africa.
As for the back story about the lion, I only know that he was wild and cagey. He crossed over on top of our tracks many times through out the two days we tracked him. At times, I felt like he was hunting me. But, I don't know much more about that specific lion to provide you with a back story about him. Thank you for watching and for your interest.
Thank you for the answer Chris, all very well said.
Trophy hunting can generate substantial economic benefits, community and political support, and have direct benefits for threatened species and biodiversity by: • Compensating for the costs of living with wildlife that are destructive and/or threaten human safety; • Offsetting opportunity costs of alternative and more destructive uses of wildlife habitat; • Generating economic benefits that improve livelihoods and thereby provide incentives to communities, land owners and other users to manage their wildlife sustainably and to choose wildlife conservation as a preferred land use option rather than other uses, such as commercial agriculture; • Generating revenues for government agencies that improve their ability to manage wildlife; • Enabling direct vigilance and support by trophy-hunting operations to reduce wildlife poaching and habitat alteration; and • Engendering philanthropic and political support for biodiversity conservation by hunters who value both the hunting opportunity and the non-monetary values of conservation. These mechanisms often work in concert with nature tourism, direct payments for biodiversity conservation, and other forms of support for nature conservation. WWF accordingly encourages the use of multiple methods, where possible, to diversify and increase incentives for conservation. As such, even the WWF holds the position that trophy hunting is a potential conservation tool that can be considered as part of an overall conservation strategy, including for threatened species (here encompassing the IUCN categories of vulnerable, endangered and critically endangered.)
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Muzzle flashing your guide all over the place. Muzzle
discipline !
Not the best, I agree. Most of those were with empty barrel, but still unnecessary.
I have to wonder if any of your clients are aware of the 'TILLEY' clothing line. Two outfits in a carry on bag would handle their requirements. Wash one each evening and put it out to dry. Wear the other one and repeat. They are specifically geared to Africa type weather from what I understand and most of them have secret pockets for $$$ etc as well. I have two of their hats. That exposure and their lifetime guarantee with replacements when needed [on the hat anyway] testifies to excellent workmanship. [forget the sometimes off color jokes he sends with the hat ... no need for that professionally in my opinion. ] Anyway, I have two of his hats. [no commission involved here]
I've heard about Tilley before but never seen any hunters come over with the brand. Maybe they should sponsor a few sets for my cameramen and we can get some exposure for it. At this stage I wear Pnuma jackets, great stuff also.
@@AfricanSunProductions Give Tilley an email and ask them for a sales sample in one of the cameraman's size. I talked to the owner once and his sales personality seemed responsive enough to consider it. Ask for a few catalogues to have lying around as well? But maybe thats a bit much ... like adding a tourist shop off the dining area? Still ... you are the one on point. Thank you for the response.
Thanks for the idea. I might contact them later this month, a bit busy now. Will think it through. If I wear their product it will be good marketing. The Pnuma jackat I used for the 2022 and 2023 season was good advertising and a few clients bought the same jacket.
Thanks again for the support.
I have a real question is why did you hunt the lion? Can you tell me more facts about the benefits after you hunted the lion pls😢
All the hunts I film are part of sustainable utilization programs designed to increase wildlife numbers as a whole, by generating funds needed to protect the land and habitat where thousands of animals live and breed.
I appreciate your honest question; it is so uncommon to see an honest question on this topic. So I will do my best to give you an honest answer. We have a tendency as humans to take care of what we deem valuable. Conversly, we have a tendency to disregard what is not valuable to us. That's just human nature and I assume we can agree on that. So hunting lions gives these animals significant value ($50,000 for a free range lion hunt). With that value directly associated to the lion, there is much more care taken to keep the lion population up. Photographic safaris (where the animals are not hunted) do generate value for the animals, but they don't come close to generating the same level of value (who ever heard of someone paying $50,000 to take a picture of a lion?)
So while hunting might seem like it only reduces the lion population, it actually creates significant value to the animals. Because we have that human tendency to take care of what is valuable, the lion population benefits as long as we abide by a sustainable model in taking out a limited quantity hunting. That way, the whole population can continue to exist and even flourish because they are valuable. Thank you for asking a real question.
@@chrischimits6313 Thank you for the detailed explanation, Chris. Unfortunately many won't see the positive side of hunting like you and I do. You've been over to Africa so many times that you know exactly how things work and can therefor explain it so well.
Awesome explanation
Lions are hunted in a controlled manner and only in specific places for that purpose, right? And the chosen individual is not just anyone in front of him, right?
Right. And on most hunts, the Nature Conservation Department for each country will have a ranger to accompany the group.
@@AfricanSunProductionsso let's say that these layers are monitored so that no one hunts illegally
@@AfricanSunProductions no sienten remordimientos por matar asi nada mas por que si
Sí, hay remordimiento, pero también hay una razón y un propósito mucho mayores para esto.
Why no hearing protection ?
Concerned more about hearing the lion's movement and the guide's instruction.
The way it should be!
kan nie wag om hom te kyk nie , weet somer ekke gaan hom geniet ,
Nou ja Appels, het jy al kans gehad om te kyk?
@@AfricanSunProductions wonderlike video , mooi roan daai , en daai vet pofadder , hel, en die kalahari lyk mooi groen en die gras mooi in saat , ai die videos vat my darem huis toe duisende dankies , en kyk daai leeu julle ook maak werk vir hom, goeie paar km agter hom aan geloop , martin baie dankie vir die wonderlike werk wat jy en jou span doen , hou so aan , sien uit na die volgende videos , kalahari groete
Ja nee die Kalahari was baaaaie mooi, soos gewoonlik. Ek is bly jy het dit so geniet. Dankie dat jy altyd my videos geniet en altyd kommentaar lewer, ek waardeer dit!
@@AfricanSunProductions enige tyd mater , ekke gee nie voor nie ekke geniet dit waarlik so baie , en de manier hoe jy jou videos doen trek my aandag , want jy is nie net oor die skoot wat gevang word nie , maar die klein dingietjies ook , soos n skoenlapper , of ry miere , of die gras sade , dit maak die video soveel meer intresanter , love dit ,
Dankie weereens Appels. Ek is bly mense sien dit raak. Die jag is nie net oor sneller trek nie, daar is soveel meer wat mens MOET raaksien en waardeer. Die skepping is mooi en is groot.
Tell what is the reason behind hunting lions
Conservation. This form the backbone of conservation here in Africa.
The one thing I really didn’t like was he liked shooting on a moving animal. If he’d have waited that could have been a better shot on specially the lion
I agree, standing dead still is preferred. If you are close enough you can take the shot though. Luckily all worked out.
Thanks for watching, and thanks for your comment.
I certainly agree with your opinion. Having said that, we tracked that lion for two days and kept jump starting him out of the tall grass. He would not give us a still opportunity, so the P.H. finally told me that if we jumped him up again, to take a moving shot on him. I've not hunted lions previously, so I followed his direction without questioning it.
Yes sir, listen to your PH. There is a difference between a moving shot and a running shot. A good hunter can still make a good shot on a moving target, but yes it is preferred to have the prey stand still.
Looks to me like the Lion was not a part of a pride. So, even though there is no actual meat gained in this kill. It does help with the finances of the African Continent. Me, I hunt for meat or animals that may destroy my cabbage patch, or someone else's.
I don't think it's fun to hunt particularly although it is exciting. Like I don't want to catch coarse fish all day, then put them back. All they get is a sore mouth. But would go pike fishing to be able to eat the pike after.
Good day. Thank you for watching and for your comment. I agree, hunting and fishing should have a purpose bigger than the excitement part. That is why these hunts are so important here in Africa. The meat is used, yes even lion meat, but more importantly we can generate the needed funds to protect the land and habitat where thousands of animals live and breed.
Also, male lions spend lots of their time AWAY from the pride and ALONE, patrolling the border of their territory.
what about the skin ?? Do it goes with hunter and get taxidermy ??
Yes, the skin and skull goes to the hunter, the meat to local villages and the bones to China.
I understand that the money from these hunts goes towards conservation and is the biggest anti poaching method there is. My question is what is the motivation for a hunter to kill this animal. They go with 10 armed men for protection and shoot it from a distance. Lions are not food, pests or vermin. What reason does a man have to go and kill this animal?
You have a valid question, I'll try and answer to the best of my ability.
The motivation is different for each person. Some would like to test themselves in the face of danger, some would like to see the mount in their office of living room as a memory, some actually do it to help the conservation effort. The danger part is also relative to each situation. Sometimes there are a group of armed men, normally it is only the hunter and one guide. This depends on regulations for the country or area.
Lion meat is still used, it's a delicacy in many countries and in the other countries it is processed with other meat and nothing goes to waste. In some areas there are problem animals, normally the older males that kill cattle. These cats are then hunted in this manner to prevent the villagers from sorting out the problem themselves. If they do it it's normally with poison and it will kill dozens if not hundreds of animals and birds.
I hope this explains it a bit. I haven't hunted one, nor will I ever so I might not be the right one to explain it.
South Africa requires that anyone hunting must retain the services of a licenced professional guide (PH). The PH always carrys a rifle to back up the hunter on dangerous game such as lions, buffalo, hippos and elephants. On this particular hunt, I had a PH and two trackers to help find the lions tracks in the tall grass. The cameraman followed along behind to film the hunt for me. We got the lion at 50 yards from ourselves. That seemed really close to me since I have seen how fast a lion can run when they charge. I have hunted since I was 9 years old, and I enjoy it very much. I totally understand not being familiar with hunting and therefore, not understanding why someone like me would want to do this.
For me, there were two main reasons; 1) to try and see if I could be successful in hunting a difficult animal that is totally at home in it's own environment and 2) to face my own fears in an honest and comprehensive manner. Some people jump out of planes with a parachute on, others scuba dive to great depths. I have always hunted, so I went on this lion hunt.
Not sure if this is a sufficient answer or not, but its what I could convey in this media.
@chrischimits6313 Thank you for the comment, to me that was perfect.
@@chrischimits6313Thank you for you answer. I am very familiar with hunting, where I am from we hunt rabbit, wild boar, deer and pheasant. We have a great time doing it. In the end the entire animal that we hunt is used for food. We also have lynx, whose numbers are so little they are not pests. No one I have ever spoken to has a desire to hunt a lynx, we respect them as predators and part of the ecosystem. A lion to most people is a special animal and has an intrinsic value. While others jump from planes and scuba dive, that doesn’t involve killing an animal for my own thrill and pleasure. Testing yourself and your fears would be better accomplished by going alone, like the Masai in Kenya where a lone young man with a spear would hunt a lion as an initiation ritual to become a man. I can’t find a situation where a hunter was injured by a lion while safari hunting. What I am trying to understand is the mind of a trophy hunter, to put it bluntly, you think that taking the life of such an animal is worth it simply because it will bring you pleasure? And do you think there is something wrong with taking the life of a living creature where the sole reason for it is the persons satisfaction?
Hi @rabotnicif. Your comment seems to contradict what you've said initially. You said you do understand the conservation side of these hunts, but then you also say that the hunter does it for only his own thrill and pleasure. You cannot separate the two, they work together. The hunter can have the challenge of the hunt AND contribute to conservation at the same time. You can respect an animal and his intrinsic value while having it mounted on your wall, you can remember that your money is used to help protect the species as a whole, the meat and even the bones are utilized, the habitat is protect etc.
I don't think you know much about the Masaai at all. People think they hunt alone, but they don't. I've spoken to many Masaai and they've always gone as a group, each taking as many spears as he can carry. They create a porcupine out of their prey and yes, they also treat it like a trophy afterwards, they are also happy about their accomplishment. The difference is that when Masaai hunt predators they wipe them out, there are almost no lion left in Masailand. They torture their prey so much that you can't post the videos anymore even IF they allow you to film, which they normally don't. RUclips definitely won't allow to show it because it's too cruel and it's not linked to a conservation plan like our hunts are.
Look at this: www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/12ocb52/tribesmen_spear_hunting_a_hippo_in_africa/?force_seo=1&xpromo_edp=enabled
And this: ruclips.net/video/8ooF7J2OqBs/видео.html
Also, there has been many accounts of hunters on safari that got killed or mauled by lion, you just need to do better research. Even on my channel, which you are commenting on, there is a video of me personally getting mauled by a lioness.
You see, we don't do this for the fun of the thrill, we do it because it needs to be done.
Hi, which rifle and calibre is the hunter using?
Good day. The rifle is a Rigby chambered in .416 Rigby. Shooting Barnes TSX 400 grain copper bullets.
Why kill a beautiful animal like that? And video idea btw maybe you can try hunting a crocodile
All the hunts I film are part of sustainable utilization programs designed to increase wildlife numbers as a whole by generating funds needed to protect the land and habitat where thousands of animals live and breed.
BS@@AfricanSunProductions
No BS. Come on over and see for yourself. It's impossible to have an opinion on something you haven't seen first hand.
Horrible freaking shots on that lion man come on
It's not always as easy as it looks.
So sad about the lion. And quite interesting how your tribe believe people against hunting endangered species for your egos are ignorant. I guess ignorance is relative.
Ignorance is directly relevant to education on the facts on hand. We living here, with these animals, have the facts.
Maybe it would be best not to watch hunting videos. I recommend Walt Disney cartoons for you.
@@chrischimits6313 Those cartoons are the root of the problem. I'd recommend the new Barbie movie... 😄
And what justification would there be for taking down that specific lion apart from bragging rights and the fallacy of a bribe in the name of " conservation"??@@AfricanSunProductions
The fact that sustainable utilization hunting is the backbone of conservation here in Africa. If these foreigners didn't come to hunt a selected few animals we won't be able to afford protecting thousands others.
Lion and elephant hunting should be strictly banned…..
I understand the emotional thoughts behind your statement but would like to know the science behind it. How will it benefit wildlife as a whole?
@@AfricanSunProductions the elephant population is high,the lion population is very low….
They are also very special….
I do agree, both species are special, this is why we have sustainable utilization programs in place all over Africa to help protect these species and increase their numbers where needed.
Thanks for watching and for your concern.
@@AfricanSunProductions thanks for your interest….
@@davidwong4799The only humans we go after are poachers.
Well done guys !!! awesome killed . I will see you guys soon to hunt for more lions.
Looking forward to it David! When are you coming?
When a gun makes you look like a BIG MAN 😂😂😂
It's not about the gun or about the man. It's about the result of sustainable utilization programs like these.
You get these kind of moronic comments when people is ignorant and stupid and got no idea what they are talking about. Instead of going and educate themself( to lazy to do that) they make utter morons of them selfs uttering a stupid comment like that!
I agree Neels!
As always a beautiful video and nice work on the hunting.
Thanks for the conservation efforts of these species.
Thank you, much appreciated!!
I'm pro-hunting, but this dude had no clue what he was doing around dangerous game. He was completely lost without a good PH.
Good day and thanks for watching. I think it went very well and that Gerrie is an excellent dangerous game PH. I would like to know more about why you think otherwise though. It's always good to listen to opinions and learn from it.
@@AfricanSunProductionsI've always been impressed by African PHs. It's so different than the hunting experience here. It's neat to see the way they do things
Definitely. We do have some good ones around and I'm fortunate to work with many of them. Gerrie and the Mabula Pro team are amazing, every time.
Where are you based, Steve?
East coast of the USA
@@_Steve_W What do you hunt over there?
Why would anyone get pleasure from killing these magnificent animals?
It's not about that. It's about the biggest conservation program we have. These foreigners fund the protection of land and habitat where thousands of animals live and breed.
I get the feeling that you are not really asking a question here.
You are correct. It's always strange that these guys that "ask the question" almost never reply again
Lose the music.
Sorry, I can't do that. When doing real-time recording like these, you can't carry around loads of equipment. The normal sound is mostly wind and grass noise. Nobody wants to listen to that. I can drop the volume a bit if that will help.
@@AfricanSunProductions Thank you for your reply. I think the natural sounds, the wind and the noise would be much preferable.
Cheers.
@daqt6079 I tested it a while back, the response from most viewers was music. It is important to select the right music and volume, though.
Wise up people , this is the ultimate cruelty!!! The animals suffer all for what ???
For the survival of the species as a whole. These sustainable utilization programs form the bulk of conservation here in Africa.
You don't seem to be asking a question. Only sharing your highly biased & unsolicited opinion. Maybe try watching the Lion King movie instead of hunting videos.
Hi Chris. Yes, most of these people have incorrect opinions because they are uninformed about the facts of Africa. I don't mind teaching them if only they we willing to listen.
Why kill lion ? Why why why
All the hunts I film are part of sustainable utilization programs designed to increase wildlife numbers as a whole by protecting the land and habitat where thousands of animals live and breed.
Tell me why cattle , sheep, chickens etc are not on the endangered list, and never will be ? Because they are UTILIZED. Ban all slaughter and utilization of cows today and see how many are left next year. It’s so obvious and yet some people still don’t get it.
Sandman, I agree 100%. The problem isn't that others don't get it, they don't WANT to get it. Emotion trumps facts and that will be the ruin of conservation through hunting.
Thanks for watching and thanks for your input.
Why hunt in this day and age???? When all us humans should be doing is preserve and conserve and protect. In my opinion hunting is just feeding a huge ego....quite evil in my eyes
It's even needed more in these days than before. In Africa we need a lot of funding to do conservation and fight poachers. The best source is hunting. No wildlife organization like PETA or WWF contributes to this. In fact, even WWF agrees that controlled hunting is beneficial to wildlife as a whole.
Wies jy om te praat
@@lekkebulle8645 Ek stem, sê hom!
Hunting is preservation and conservation
@@lekkebulle8645 I'm intitled to an opinion just like you