The Evolution of Culture with Joseph Henrich [S2 Ep.20]
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
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My guest today is Joseph Henrich, a Professor of Evolutionary Biology at Harvard University. Joseph is also the author of the books, "The WEIRDest People in the World: How the West Became Psychologically Peculiar and Particularly Prosperous", "The Secret of Our Success: How Culture Is Driving Human Evolution, Domesticating Our Species, and Making Us Smarter" and "Why Humans Cooperate: A Cultural and Evolutionary Explanation (Evolution and Cognition)"
We talk about the ways in which cultural practices have shaped human biology, why culture is the real reason why humans dominate over the animal kingdom, the implicit wisdom in many tribal cultural traditions, lactose intolerance, and other ways that culture has interacted with genetics, so-called WEIRD cultures (Western Educated, Industrialized, Rich and Democratic) and how they differ from more traditional cultures and much more.
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Came across Joseph's work while reading for my anthropology MA. Really influenced me quite deeply.
How did it influence you? Curious because it also influenced me quite deeply.
@@aaronclarke7732 Hey Aaron. Couple of ways: on the more technical side I was looking into experimental economics, specifically individual decision-making and the use of economic games. His work helped me formulate a better understanding of how people make choices. Broader, I think even in my discipline there's a misunderstanding of what culture is. It's thought of as a kind of aesthetic add-on. I'd independently reached a lot of the same conclusions Henrich shares in this interview about biocultural coevolution, but his books and papers helped crystallize the concept and provided practical examples I'd never heard or thought about. How did his work influence you?
@@briankhumalo938 A great answer: specific, in-depth, persuasive.
So great comment. I have to apply the theory of Weired Humans in my MA proposal in art and culture from a neuroscientific perspective. But I'm not sure how could I define my questions. Could you help me please?@@briankhumalo938
I was expecting Henrich to, at same stage, get into that kayak and row off.
I was thinking he might as well, esp after hearing the police presence around the lakefront, lol
Well, now I want to read some of those books!
I've been studying culture for a long time.
My favorite system is Spiral.
I broke my back,
My back is broken
SPINAL
@@biggnesss7192 I understood that reference
@@tysonclarke012 a man of culture
The theme song, so good. Pure bliss. Over and over I listen. Hands down the best theme song in podcasting no doubt!
It's interesting to see the view difference between this interview and Charles Murray's. People are more interested in controversial topics.
Joe's a genius
Humans are "addicted to culture." One of the best and informative phrases I've head in a long time!
Talks about culture make me think of John Vervaeke’s “psychotechnology” discussions. Also, I wonder if his view of the word culture makes any differentiation between religion or politics?
Excellent discussion.
I do wish that notable discussion vloggers like Coleman would encourage their guests to utilise better microphones.
“Ishmael” by Daniel Queen has a very interesting book about Nature vs Culture.
I’ll have a go at reading a book by the chap. What is interesting also is the tiptoeing around the discussion of policy implications. That Henrich decides to go from there to immigration and innovation is just running away as fast as he can from his rester each and its implications.
CH . . . excellent.
That was interesting but no push back on any aspect made the experience of viewing the episode as a prof lecturing to an undergrad… for better or worse…
Love ya Coleman...but what's up with the breathing in the microphone?
Your fear of dogs is completely irrational. Dogs may look like wolves, but they've evolved through at least one intermediary species to select for friendliness, nonaggression, and the ability to read human body language. Wolves cannot read human body language the way dogs can.
Domestic cats are actually much closer to their wild analogs (especially mountain lions). The only reason cats don't kill you is that they can't do so without grave risk to themselves. If they were much bigger (like their cousins), they'd rip you to shreds or play with you before killing you the way they do with mice.
Don't fear dogs. They're awesome.
I'm entertained imagining Coleman cowering in the presence of a chihuahua.
I agree that Coleman shouldn't fear dogs. However, I think his point was that instinctual fear of something that looks like a wolf makes sense. As a rational man, he can overcome that instinct. I don't fear dogs, but I grew up with them.
50:00 *_I AM_* ....smelling like the rose that somebody game me on my birthday deathbed 😎🤘
STP
Listening to Henrich speak about "Gene/Culture co-evolution" it occurred to me that the hypothesis that says religion is merely a set of myths ancient man used to explain the natural world, is too facile by half and probably the least important facet of the phenomena.
I agree, that would be rather simplistic. There's a lot of ritual and cultural reinforcement that comes with religion.
@@bro4539
I don't think it's a projection. It's an explanation for where it comes from, which is different from what it's function ended up becoming, especially as science started to provide true explanations for nature.
The other functions of religion you're referring to are there, but they are secondary or rather, a byproduct. They were derived AFTER religion had already existed. Nobody was sitting around making up myths because they knew it would provide a cultural glue.
I wonder how we can imbue the best adaptations of our religious inheritance with authority whilst pruning the maladaptive portion. It strikes me one of the best adaptations of religion is bringing a diverse and numerous group of individuals into a building together as a community once a week. Aside from radical politics, I don’t think any WEIRD secular adaption has succeeded in doing that so far.
@@aaronclarke7732 Secular humanism is as far as it's come. But it's overly broad and doesn't do a good job of teaching people how to live in the way that religion does. I think there's a general repulsion to anything that teaches you how to live, even if it's well intentioned, so no one is interested in presenting something that's actually codified beyond a general statement of values.
@@commonsensecraziness7595 so we’re left in this unenviable position where we evolved for something we refuse to believe in.
Joe Henrich, one part of the Holy Trinity of cultural evolution:
And the other two?
@@AANasseh Jonathan Haidt and David Sloan Wilson.
@@CancelledPhilosopher thanks!!! Very familiar with Haidt but did not know about Wilson! Will look him up for sure!! 🙏👍
@@AANasseh Awesome. I'm more familiar with Haidt too.
MMA lives on
The beginning sounds like a confirmation on Jordan Petersons argument for religion.
Nope: that’s your confirmation bias speaking…
@@christopherhamilton3621 And you know exactly what argument I'm talking about?
45:13
Guy is dreamy. No homo
The weirdest thing about WEIRD people is their denial of cultural conformity as a strong personal motivator.
Not sure if I've heard WEIRD people in general deny culture. I've often heard Chinese, indian, and even Nigerian success attributed to culture. Liberal WEIRD I guess would?
I've noticed a left will dismiss outcome differences due to culture in favor of racism, and claim justification because, supposedly, pointing to culture "blames the victims".
I don't really like dogs either.
Bummer not to hear the history of literacy in the Arab world mentioned.
Why? He literally mentioned the focus on Western civilization
brilliant guy, but i wish his fake creek background didn’t bother me as much as it did… like bruh, why are you wearing a goddamn dress shirt out on canoeing 😂
Sounds like a you problem…🥴