NEW Night Elf Capital Is A HORDE CITY! Bel'Ameth Reveal!
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Looks like the NEW Darnassus aka Bel'Ameth is a neutral city allowing the Horde to be present!
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Never thought I would actually say this but looks like the new night elven capital is going to be a Horde city as well as an Alliance one and despite the recent truce and all people aren't exactly happy. Previous datamined hints were right, the new city is on the Dragon isles right undernearth Amirdrassil and despite the controversies it actually looks great. It isn't named Darnassus but Bel'ameth and it is gigantic with so many new models, so many new NPCs and even a night elven paladin that we had just discovered. This is the PTR of course but most of the city is actually there, with some encryptions and bits that are work in progress but let's see what this new city looks like, why exactly is it neutral and how this seems like a setup for most cities becoming neutral in the future.
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00:05:06 Night elf Paladin? For God Sake. Lets get back like to Legion expansion to exactly Paladin class order. Night Elf Priest Delas Moonfang change class to Paladin. Yup thats the exact kneeling nigh elf lass paladin there. With that said we can all say that Night Elves can be paladins since Legion expansion but such option was not given. Still iam waiting for it. I hope more races could be Paladins as well as Shamans (since Draenei can be Rogue ) About new Night Elves capital to be a neutral zone like Dalaran. Iam fine with it as well as long as Lordareon will become neutral to.
didn't the night elves evolve from the trolls, the blood elves from the high elves, and the naga from those night elves who followed Azshara into the sea?
"there's a NElf paladin but we don't know what the story is behind it"
Delas Moonfang: am I a joke to you?
Don't worry guys, they were morally grey when they blew up the druids in stonetalon, bombed theramore, plagued Gilneas, blew up the vale of eternal blossoms, and burned teldrassil.
I mean, it's not like the forsaken are still making plague with absolutely zero remorse, or that orgrimmar continues to clearcut ashenvale.
THIS time, they for sure double no backsies won't be a raid boss.
So... when does Undercity open to the Alliance?
It won't. But the Alliance will get Silvermoon acess.
@@phonicrose8395 Nah fam, let the refugee's and the descendants of those who escaped Arthas return to Loredaeron!
@biggshoverwelder3690 That will never happen. They made Calia an undead specifically to emphasize the Forsaken's Claim to Lorderon.
Lorderon is also no lot lore relevant anytime soon.
However, Silvermoon is already somewhat neutral when it comes to allowing High Elves into the city, and we know we're getting a major expansion centered on uniting to protect the city.
Silvermoon is already confirmed essentially to become neutral.
We already had a Night Elf npc become a Paladin during Legion. She was a priestess who became a paladin as part of the questline.
Actually, we have 2 of them. The other is her uncle.
Judging by her Xmog, that is Dalas Moonfang. This is not a new character, he just didn't know about this NPC.
@@mariosblago94 I'd have to take a closer look.
Well any race that can be a priest, can make a paladin isnt too far fetched or impossible. If you remember or know the lore, the first paladins were nothing more than knights who can use light. So I kind of understand that. What is still a big bs for me is, Nelf mages... And how blizzatd handled their fans when ct came out. Basically the nelfs promised they will never use magic after they sundered azeroth. And blizz simply said "now they can".
Btw if undeads can be priests they should have let us make undead paladins.
WAIT WHAT?! WHO IS THIS PERSON AND WHAT QUESTLINE IS IT?!
So, the Horde invades and plagues Gilneas. Then the Gilneans are taken in by the Night Elves in Teldrassil. Then, the Horde invades Darkshore and burns down Teldrassil, murdering everything in Ashenvale.
Now, we get to work alongside the Horde to retake Gilneas from some random faction, and the Horde gets to exist in the new Night Elf home.
I call bullshit.
Same, this isn't cool.
Horde Bias. Blizzard is Horde.
I mean, they made peace and The Horde did help out with it.
@@vissarionovichsalinas4549 Blizz has literally Alliance bias since vanilla. Go cope because you don't know the lore.
@@raydafuq3570 hahahaha Sure.
I think the idea was less about making it horde but bringing all the different elves together. That being said, I still hate the idea based on the same reasons everyone else has already said. The Nightelf genocide was THE worst idea the devs came up with, and after all that happened in shadowlands that's a high bar to climb over. Making it horde in any way really feels like yet another terrible betrayal for the Alliance. They should have made the new world tree cross over from the dream into Teldrassil reviving it then built a 'new Darnassus" with a revamp.
WoD draenei forgave the orcs instantly for the genocide. Same thing happened with Night elves now. Its very strange in the world where the early lore had a lot of vengeance plots, bad bloods, etc. What a steep decline in writing quality.
bring the elves together without the horde.
problem being that its fking dumb have you considerd the cultural diffrences ? the bloodelves back then highelves left in an exodus because the treehugging hippy furrys told them to stop using magic or we kill you or leave . the voidelves were literaly exiled for touching bad stuff and the nightborn are just like the Bloodelves elitist since both belonged to the former ruling cast while the nelfs made up the working cast then you add 10k years of disdain and ignorance and you end up were the elves are now @@Chasingshadows50
Blood elves and night elves hate each other lorewise. For them to come together is like Mordor orcs and Gondor holding hands
@@liamwilson7549 "Hate" might be too strong of a word, they haven't been in contact for 10 000 years until the Third War and since then, they haven't actually done anything to each other to spark any hatred. Just they are culturally different but beside that... I mean, you can't even say that the NE disapprove of the BE use of arcane magic since they reintegrated the Highborne among them and allowed the practice of arcane magic. That would be hypocrite.
imagine losing your entire city and countless of your people to the horde, just to welcome them into your new city as soon as you get it
that seems... strange
It's such a slap in the face, and you just know the devs won't let Alliance in Loredaeron in return for it.
Its because they are trying to translate their real world politics into the game. No, there cant be places or zones exclusives to any race, there cant be culture exclusive to any race, there cant be classes or factions exclusive to any race. Everyone is welcome, everyone is there.
May your family be blessed with daughters!
@@Silvers617 Blame it on the 'new blood' taking over the development team, but you summed it up exactly.
@@biggshoverwelder3690cry about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
this is very upsetting to me.@@biggshoverwelder3690
They spit on the alliance by doing this
As a horde player, I agree. I play mostly forsaken, and it's INSANE night elves would allow us in their city
They spat on the Horde for almost two decades now.
and if our shit finna be neutral lorderon and blood elf city better be turning neutral real soon
This is the biggest "BRUH moment" I have ever seen
after all that bs about NE going crazy on the horde, this happens... Bruh
I'm mainly a high elf guy(blood and void elves included) but what they've been doing to the night elves recently is just sad, they take L after L, they were so cool in wc3 but now they don't even get their unique purple trees and stuff, it's all just green now.
I agree with you that darnarssus was too much stone and pavement but I would love a big arse temple of elune made of stone with a branch of plant growing up it. Maybe they will add before release
That was what made it good looking.
Not all night elves are druid or tree-huggers.
Night Elves civilization is capable of building incredible stone buildings. Think of Dire Maul, Suramar.
@@francescoporcari8597 that's why I said too much stone and payment not the shouldnt be any, but darnarssus was 80 percent that and it should be more 50/50 , that's why I want a big temple complex
@@AstralHealthGuy Agreed
Yes, something like cathedral of eternal night without fel corruption would be awesome
the Horde committed a genozide and destroyed a world tree as well as Darnassus. And they get rewarded with being allowed in that new nightelven "city"? THIS IS BAD!!!
"It was just Sylvanas!"
Tell that to the Nurnberg process convicteds.
Elves are a misstake anyway 😅
Fuck the night elfs let that tree burn again
The writers have officially given up
Yeah... Pretty silly 😂
When Blizzard starts drug testing their employees, maybe stuff like this wouldn't happen
More like they need to quit hiring activists in lieu of people who appreciate interesting stories and game design.
@@evage99it's 100% drugs if Metzen allows this
It’s the opposite
@@evage99hit the nail right on the head.
🤭🤧
That night elven paladin MAY be the one we met during the Paladin's Order Hall campaign back in Legion.
The Nightelf Paladin isn't new. She was around since Legion. Their name is Delas Moonfang, and they sorta began their pathway of becoming a Paladin back in WoD, by slaying and hunting Iron Horde and demons on Draenor around the Garrison. In WoD she was a priest who would wear white cloth with some Classic plate pieces and a bow, but come legion, she left the Netherlight Temple, after acquiring some demonic runestones to study in Dalaran. She was approached by her friend the Tauren, Aponi Brightmane, to help the Silverhand, where she eventually would be acknowledged and become a full fledge paladin.
I am aware but based on the recent questline we got with Tyr I think she can be a bridge to playable night elven paladins.
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@@Doronsmovieshope so
But here’s what this means most likely, upper city lordaeron will be rebuilt and will be populated by both living and forsaken and will become a neutral city as well
Bruh why are you referring to Delas Moonfang as they? It's a she wtf it's not several people.
Why does Blizzard hate Night Elves so much?
Same reason they kept making orcs bad guys.
This is NEW blizzard,..
I don't know lol but it really seems like it, literally every news I read about the night elves it's them getting shafted one way or the other. Even when it seems like something good is coming for them finally they still get shafted in regardless.
@@Soma6372 I think the first decade was good.. they kept their phenomenal music and ambience in darnassus, ashenvale, ashara and darkshore. Old world is actually very accurate. It's the new nonsense that is so bland and milk toast elves
Do you want good guys Orcs? that's really bad, not every race should be good.@@Quetzen
lmao horde burned elves and now they can enter the new city ... logic
If this came before cross faction guilds and the news of warbands i would be more surprised/shocked. And considering druids have always been cross faction and the new world tree is peak druid city, its even less surprising to me.
What i would be surprised with is if Gilneas was cross faction, as the Gilneans would be super territorial of the home they just reclaimed.
The horde actuality get to help with the quest line to retake it, via Calia. (same way Alliance helped the forsaken out with taking back theirs...)
yeah its not like the horde did anything bad to teldrassil of course we should let em in no worries
@@brodymundy4875 then why did people not bat an eye for cross faction guilds and warbands? Double standards do nothing but confuse the direction of the story.
Bel-Ameth looks like a KOA campground.
In another video, I explained why I didn’t think an Alliance capital city was a good idea in the Dragon Isles. But the solution was definitely not to make it a neutral Elven city. That also goes totally against the lore/logic of what happened..
All the NPC are Night Elves though, so this could just be a PTR thing to allow people to test it, or they forgot to flip the switch to make them hostile
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so Horde burns down the Night elf city, then gets to use the new one?....Alliance better get access to Silvermoon then. At this point they might aswell say there is only 1 faction, let us talk to eachother and trade with eachother
Think they might with the void elves
Making both Elven cities neutral would probably be a decent direction to go in
Actually based on all the hints I think Silvermoon might just be neutral.
@Doronsmovies The Horde has always allowed Lor'themar to let Alliance Elves into Silvermoon per Lor'themar's request.
It's one of the reasons Thalyssra agrees to go Horde.
So it's kinda the Horde Dalaran already
lorewise maybe and only to Elves, I can't take my night elf there and not be attacked right now :D but Midnight does mention bringing elves together...seems to me the game is making everyone friends again in a happy azeroth family aka who needs an alliance and horde anymore? its Azeroth vs threat now
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Bel'amath is the wrong side of the Dragonisles to be too involved in the void/Quel'danas.
Looking at that mage trainer, I would assume that the Horde-friendliness is a phase for Main Story questing and that it will otherwise be a normal Alliance city.
I think for Darnassus they tried to make a vegetal touch on buildings to symbolize the connection with nature, but with the 2004 graphics it doesn't work at all. It just looks like a city in ruins they never maintained, though it was a few years old. That's why it feels wrong.
Right, I was explaining this very thing to someone the other day. Like Darnassus was like 20-30 years old and those werent highborne ruins. Which I think is why the new Bel'ameth should have some stone structures.
Maybe Silvermoon will become a void hub in the future and blood elves will be refugees in Bel’ameth uniting all elvenkind again? 🤔
that would make no sence
@TheGreatestOne15 I mean they've said the goal of Midnight is the Void is attempting to snuff out the light of the Sunwell.
They've also said the Elves will unite to try save it.
Not to mention Midnight is the middle of a 3 part saga, so it could easily be the expansion where the final raid boss outcome is we actually lose.
I don't like what they're doing to the night elves at all, I want it to stop! The vibes we had for NE back in vanilla is what we need now.
What vibes ?
wouldn't surprise me if that night elf pally is the one from the order hall.
I know that Amirdrassil is a work in progress on the PTR, so I'm just hoping that the reason the Horde players are able to visit for a quest chain, and then it becomes Alliance only after the quest chain is done.
I'm going to just all my time in Bel'ameth placing campfires everywhere
I'm sorry, but unless I missed something there is nothing pointing to Bel'ameth becoming a neutral city, is there ? Sure, the Horde can visit it in the PTR right now but that's judt PTR. Hell, most npcs don't even have names at the moment. So i don't see why people should jump and conclude that it's not going to be Alliance only.
Because they've demonstrated many times they're essentially merging factions in the last 2 expansions, from cross faction guilds, to saying how war like in BfA won't happen again, to making neutral races for both factions, even dwarves.
it has been confirmed btw...
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
First, and I hate this idea.
Even here, inclusivity is pushed 🤦🏻♂️ 😂
The Alphabet Mafia infiltrated Blizzard a long time ago.
This is what happens when you use My Little Pony as the inspiration for a high fantasy setting that's supposed to be serious and feature adult themes.
Ikr, it's sad and depressing
What is this? Does Blizzard want to be "cancelled" even more so than it was during that whole scandal? DO NOT DO THIS.
From what I read it's an Alliance city, with portals to other alliance capitals. Horde players will have a debuff warning them they are being watched. Horde players can visit, NPCs aren't hostile. However for how long I'm not sure. I doubt it's permanent.
Midnight is said to be a elf Expansion there is currently 4 playable Elf Races hope all 4 get some love and some story , Silvermoon will be near where the Midnight expansion is et that could turn turn into a a both faction hub to if that's the case . I would like to see all 4 Elf races get some kind of area in Azeroth .
I mean there's technically 9. With High Elves and Half Elves being Alliance members who aren't playable.
The San'layn being Horde allied kinda as of BfA.
The Felblood being just super Fel Blood Elves...not sure if they still exist.
The Naga are technically Sea Elves.
Then we have the playable ones and everyone of those BUT Void Elves have their own area in Azeroth really as Telogrus Rift isn't really fleshed out.
@@phonicrose8395 Harpies, Satyrs and the Spider Elves from Legion are also all Elves. It's world of Elfcraft.
Before any Elf crap we literally need to catch up Troll stuff since Vanilla like playable Forest Trolls.
@@raydafuq3570 they're already a thing. Just like Wildhammer Dwarves. The Forest Troll skins were added to Darkspear Trolls, along with Sandtrolls.
Also, we JUST had a Troll expansion, so no thanks.
@@phonicrose8395 lol wtf are you talking about? They were never added. We still don't have a simple green skin tone. We got a Sand Troll and two Dark Troll Skins which nobody asked for and that's it. I literally checked a week ago. Saying BfA was a Troll expansion is so obviously Alliance biased.
You're so biased you don't know that once again you got Wildhammers and we didn't get Forest Trolls and act like BfA was a Troll expansion when it was equally as much a Kul'Tiras and Jaina expansion.
So yes please, give us an actual Troll expansion and stop with the constant Elf shit.
Horde destroyed theramore and the burn teldrasil...im not forgiven them never
WE KNOW EXACTLY WHO THAT NIGHT ELF PALADIN IS WTF
I hate how watered down the modern lore is, every race can be every class, all the races are just humans that look funny. Everything that made them interesting has been stripped from them. The over homogenization of the races and factions has robbed the world of its distinct feel, and degraded it into a generic Isekai world.
not all races can be all classes yet.
Still no Pandaren, Vulpera, Undead, Gnome or Orc Druids
And Dracthy are just one class
@@DrDrystal and humans worgen night elves blood elves, forsaken, dracthyr (as you said) can't be shaman neither. And no race except night elves and blood elves can be dh for now
Diversicide
You are so dense@@DrDrystal
There cant be places exclusive to any race...I remember back when Pandaria came, and just right after you would see Pandarens everywhere as NPC? Like literally all over the place? Now in Dragonflight its more obvious...there are not factions or groups anymore, you go into the underground zone of the dragon isles and you see a group of pandaren? Werent they supposed to be a rare race?
The night elf paladin was in Legion, she was a Paladin order hall follower.
the nelf pally has been around for a very long time
Delias Moonfang it take her long time since Legion to make night elf paladin order😂
They can have a horde embassy in the NE capital but they BETTER NOT make it a neutral city.. It has to be OUR city.. We NE players will be pissed. darnassus was beautiful .. How dare you!!.. Its aesthetic matches Darkshore and ashenvale a mix of old elven ruins and nature..
To be honest I don’t actually like the idea of Blizzard trying to mix Horde and Alliance. Well of course countless times they worked together (imo Legion did that best) but that was it just working together and still be rivals and move on. Because again imo the faction war and temptation between the factions and both factions having their seperate themes and feelings are some of the main parts of Warcraft. I hope this “We are together in every way” thing stops and goes back to normal.
I like to look at it as like in real life. You may have opposing leaders and ways. But the citizens of each group can visit the other.
i don't like it either, but i think the main reason they're doing this is due to balancing reasons, like people playing much more as horde than alliance, my guild for example tried to raid on alliance and we just could never find enough people... They didn't really needed to fuck the story up to fix it though, they could've kept the story as being rivals at war constantly and just allow the factions to run content, trade and interact with no problems gameplay wise
I think it’s time to move beyond factions. It’s okay to play both sides as a failing uni student, but juggling wow with a job only allows me to upkeep 1 toon properly, but I want to experience the story proper without the hassle of having to make another toon
Right? When I try to compare it to the real world it feels more fantastical and disconnected from reality than ever before. I don’t mind the factions working together but it severely erodes at the established lore and takes massive chunks of personality away from the separate races. It completely downgrades and devalues the threats like the legion and scourge into just “oops we got tricked. I don’t want to be bad anymore” and we all hug. Like the legion hasn’t done 10,000 years of intergalactic conquest and genocide on an unspeakable level. But now you have to accept them in the alliance because “blizzard said so.” So many RPers have to rewrite their characters or force development. Like nobody is allowed is to have trauma, or hold onto their grief. Every war crime has to be forgiven? 😴
Right like its less of two warring factions now, and now its more like just two countries. Like "oh im hoping on a boat to go visit the england/the states."
As an Alliance main I feel insulted! We lose TWO cities to genocidal Warchief's and have to share the new one, fuck that! Also, I liked Darnassus, I can't forgive it.
I was there on the ptr and there was a npc attacking me
Merithra said: Amirdrassil "Crown of Harmony", grown of two realms, a window between life and death. Thats why you see npc dark rangers but they are night elves, thats why you see death knights but night elves. Its NOT Horde city, Horde players will be attacked by guards.
But here’s what this means most likely, upper city lordaeron will be rebuilt and will be populated by both living and forsaken and will become a neutral city as well
No, they're not neutraling Lorderon.
Silvermoon is the most likely neutral city with the revamp in Midnight. Since it focused on Quel'thelas and the Sunwell.
@@phonicrose8395 idk about that, since In the “Midnight” expansion the alliance is getting gilneas back so horde would naturally be given the updated silvermoon and dalaran may be getting grounded again and become the neutral hub, meaning the only way to balance things out would be to make a formerly horde city neutral and the only one that makes any sense would be lordaeron as calia is more neutral than any horde leadership, and both horde and alliance have a stake in lordaeron and the forsaken are literally the horde counterpart of the night elves in this story, so if any race’s capital was to be shared it would be the forsaken, and finally silvermoon being neutral makes no sense from a lore perspective as no alliance has a stake in it save for the void elves but they’re outcasts of blood elf society, not just the horde, so them being allowed back or even wanting to go back save for maybe Alleria is illogical
@@niftykillswitch99 They don't get Gilneas back in Midnight, they're getting back in the very NEXT patch of Dragonflight.
Midnight is SOLELY focused on Silvermoon, Quel'thelas and essentailly High/Blood/Void Elves.
@@phonicrose8395 are they getting it back that soon? That I did not know, I had heard it was gonna be in midnight, well either way.
@niftykillswitch99 yeah the next patch 10.2.5 both Horde and Alliance get quests to see it be retaken.
Are there any new models?
The Night Elf Paladin is Delas Moonfang. She becomes a Paladin during the Paladin Order Hall campaign in Legion.
So basically blizz gift all Kalimdor to the Horde now, intead of giving the NE Hyjal or Ashenvale, (and no I don't think the Draenei will do the difference in there)
That’s the night elf paladin from legion. Part of the Highlord quest line is turning her from a priest into a paladin
That's okay. Silvermoon City hopefully will be a neutral city soon
for RP servers, making stormwind neutral would make the population explode since most RP is happening there and in the region
In theory I like the idea of all cities becoming neutral - just not this particular one because of the story that led us to this moment. Starting with Ogrimmar would have been a better idea. The Horde should have the onus to prove themselves FIRST. Eventually players will accept this, but going full-genocide against the Night Elves and then those same Night Elves being the ones to say "bygones" is infuriating, really. There will never be revenge for Teldrassil, and the perpetrator is going to be "redeemed" eventually (we all know it) and honestly I think that is the primary reason a lot of the community is insulted by the neutrality of Bel'Ameth. Sylvanas needs to be exterminated, and her timeout is not enough.
The Nightelf paladin has been around since legion and has a sibling as well
I am Horde, I don't like Night Elves or their architecture. But I say this is BS. The new Night Elven city needs to be in Kalimdor. Because it's not just merely a place of interest. It's supposed to be the main city of the Night Elf race. And Night Elves have home in the Kalimdor. Should they all move to Dragon Isles now and abandon their ancient home? Or should only those who will live in this city move there, which will contribute to the separation of the Night Elfs?
If they want to excuse this with "well, there is a portal", then I call bullshit on that. You can't use portals for everything story related. That completely obliterates any sense of place.
The new Elven city should have ideally been in Moonglade. The tree should have teleported over the lake just like it's on Mount Hyjal, and the rest of the mostly empty zone should have been rebuilt into a city. With an NPC that can switch you to the old Moonglade. And if new Night Elf characters were created, they could start there. And then use flightpath to Darkshore.
Their city being on Dragon Isles, which is closer to Eastern Kingdoms... That's nonsensical.
I noticed this new progressive idea of ancestral land not meaning anything. Like in Thor Ragnarok: "Asgard is not a land, it's a people." And then you just move your entire nation somewhere else. This is not how ancient and medieval civilisation operate (those are an inspiration and a template for fictional fantasy civilisations). How can you cut Night Elves from Ashenvale like that?
Not to mention, according to the story, the tree was grown in the Emerald Dream, and when it was ready to move to Azeroth, it could have been placed basically anywhere. Which means placing it in the Dragon Isles had to be deliberate decision of some character. So why did the Night Elves choose to place it on the Dragon Isles? Who would come up with such an idea? There are no historical links between Night Elves and the Dragon Isles. There was no Night Elven civilisation there. No mention of Elves in the Dragon history. And placing their biggest capital next to land owned by Centaurs doesn't really sound like a good idea either. Even if these are the progressive feminist centaurs, it's still gonna be competition for resources.
That Night elf paladin was actually in legion
God I hope they invite the Void Elves to make it their main city too.
Only so they can wind up "blessing" Amirdrassil with the blood Il'gynoth or some shit and wind up corrupting it to all hell.
the night elf paladin is part of the paladin campaign in legion
night elves get the short end of the stick because trolls still do and they are one in the same.
Blood Elves are troll descended too and they get everything handed to them on a silver platter.
I agree, Horde shouldn't have regular access to ANY Alliance Capital faction city imo
Delas Moonfang is not 'New' when it comes to a paladin. She became a paladin in Legion, at the conclusion of the main Paladin Order Hall Campaign. But if you haven't done either the paladin or priest order halls, you'd only know her from Warlords of Draenor as a Garrison Follower. Also, Horde being allowed even to set foot near the new World Tree and the Night Elven capital is the biggest load of horse crap I've heard. And this is coming from someone who played both Forsaken and Night Elves for a very long time.
The Night Elves are setting up the horde. I guarantee it. It's going to be a blood bath that's going to take the lives of Aggra and Thrall's children.
Night Elves will take no prisoners with the King's blessing.
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If all the city’s being neutral could hold benefits
I’d only be okay with the horde getting like an “embassy” but not full access. Idk towelie said something like “faction war”‘isn’t gonna be a thing ever again so here we are
I agree with a lot of players that making Bel'ameth neutral is a bad idea. The only way I can be kinda okay with this is if they make Silvermoon neutral as well, at least to balance things out.
It's 98% likely to happen in Midnight. The Elves unite to save the Sunwell and the expansions zones are Ghostlands, Eversong Woods, Quel'Danas, and the area to the left of the Plaguelands we can't use yet in game. That via datamining we know is covered in Void.
@@phonicrose8395 Good info, thx
Alliance only part of the current map? I don't see how that would make any sense. If anything the game is going in a way that you're more likely to see places like SW and Org become non contested territory
taht night elf paladin was in legion with the paladin order hall
If it's on the PTR I highly doubt it'll be a neutral city honestly
While it is true that without the Horde, the Kaldorei would not have been able to protect Amirdrassil from corruption, I don't want a neutral world tree. It should belong to the Kaldorei and be the new starting zone for new night elves. This whole working together thing is getting annoying. I want my Horde vs Alliance back.
Wouldn't surprise me if Blizzard thought that it was all Jailer's fault and he masterminded all the conflicts between factions, as well as the split souls thing, so it wasn't Sylvanas fault either. So now that Jailer became a 'doll', now factions can survive peacefully, even though atrocities were commited before.
Technically speaking he did. He had Sargeras's mind twisted which made him go berserk. Because of that, the Legion wanted to invade Azeroth. The orcs were turned into bloodthirsty savages by Sargeras's minions and used as an army to invade Azeroth. As things went on, the Horde got new allies (on Azeroth to assist with their invasion of Azeroth? Hmm). This set up major factions that, though they may have been neutral, now they were actively hostile to one another. Except for the Trolls, them some crazy mofos anyways. The Helm of Domination was crafted by the Dreadlords - and it ended up in Arthas's hands. The Lich King wrecked much of the human and Elven lands. He created and essentially gave home to the Forsaken.... Yada yada yada... I won't go any further but yes, the Jailer did it. From a long time ago, even before the Legion's first invasion, he flipped the switch that would inevitably lead to Sylvanas feeding him souls (ie kill Night Elves) and working to assist him.
Bummer, i was looking forward to raiding it
wow pls no it needs to be alliance only
The Nelf Pally isn’t really that new. She was introduced in WoD as a moon priestess then upgraded to a Paladin in Legion
Darnasus was amazing and the new city looks really boring not to mention neutral...... They really hate the Alliance dont they.
Not quite related but, looking at the shiny new assets in Bel'ameth just makes me 1000% more desperate to see the revamped Silvermoon...
Slightly more on topic, I'm not really sure I want *either* of them to be neutral?? But the points you raise do make sense. Just don't keep near-killing the Night Elves anymore, seriously, please let the "connection" there be simply that they come to the Blood Elves in their time of need (like the Humans *failed to do* when Arthas came) and let that be a heartwarming moment that brings them closer together again!! Can that be it? Please?? :'D
The nght elf paladin is in lore years ago, lol
I dislike:
A. The Idea if the Night elves leaving Kalimdor
B. The idea of the new capital city being on the Dragon Isles
C. The design of the buildings: there should be rock buildings, temples, ramparts. For a nation that has just been wiped away from their homeland the Night Elves are really uncatious.
Bro we need a red wedding for the horde hard right now.
That's overdue for the Alliance since over a decade.
@@raydafuq3570 the alliance has been on the losing side since Warcraft III 😂 if alliance doesn’t get cat girls as a race then we will for sure be the lamest faction ever
@@liamwilson7549 losing wars and losing basically all your leaders and heroes isn't compareable. We raided Orgrimmar and Undercity but no Alliance city. Thrall and Lorthemar are the only actual leaders we have left since Warcraft 3 / their introduction in WoW and Thrall does his best not to lead.
Cairne is dead, Vol'jin is dead, Sylvanas is hated because of writing, Garrosh is dead, Gallywix is hated and basically every single allied race leader is some female character nobody cares about. Bayne is passive, we see almost nothing from Rokhan and we killed off Kilrogg, Ner'zhul, Blackhand, Grom got killed by space Nazis. We lost Saurfang.
Alliance got Alleria and Turalyon back, Falstad as well. Meanwhile we don't even have a green skin for Trolls even though Revantusk Tribe is with the Horde since Vanilla. Rastakhan got killed off asap as well. Magni lives, Muradin lives, Brann lives, Tyrande lives, Anduin lives, Mekkatorque lives, Khadgar lives, Jaina lives. The only ones you lost are Varian and Malfurion because it started getting ridicuous - yet still malf is chilling in Ardenweald.
Horde literally gets shafted all the god damn time. You really just lost one leader and a a tree. We lost almost everyone we cared about.
@@raydafuq3570 did you forget gilnaes, teldrassil, stromgarde, gnomeregan, theramore, ashenvale, south shore, the past 35 years canonically of human genocide committed by the orcs, and several other human settlements destroyed by the horde in-game with quests. Theres even a somewhat forgotten questline that has the horde nuke a bunch of young night elves hold up in a tower in stone talon mountains, it was so extreme for the horde that even garrosh condemned it and killed the orc responsible. There’s a lot more I’ve probably forgotten myself because of just how much the devs have done to the alliance lol
@@liamwilson7549 Gnomeregan is the Gnomes fault because of experimenting with radioactive shit and having betrayal in their ranks. Gilneas is Genn's fault because he chose to isolate and fuck the Alliance then the Worgen Curse came and fucked his kingdom. The Forsaken attacked Gilneas for territory expansion and let's not act like Gilneas was part of the Alliance at that point so doesn't count. Gilneas only rejoined the Alliance because they had no choice and their kingdom lay in ruins.
Stromgarde lies in Arathi and all of Lordaeron and Quel'Thalas used to be Troll land that was stolen from them by early Humans and High Elves so it doesn't even belong to you but to the Amani tribe. The Forsaken tried to rejoin the Alliance but they were rejected which is where the name "The Forsaken" comes from and because Humans can't co-exist with the Forsaken because of Alliance-typical fascism they leave them literally no choice than to purge the living from their zones like Tirisfal, Silverpine, Hillsbrad and Arathi Highlands to be save.
Same reason why South Shore was taken from the Alliance - also Hillsbrad Foothills is first and foremost a Horde zone although it being contested. It's natural progression to go from Silverpine to Hillsbrad while the Alliance has to run through multiple higher level zones to even get here.
Teldrassil was literally corrupted by evil since it's conception. In all actuality it was probably better to burn it down. Should've just been without the Night Elves still in it but well... I'm not sad at all about them they would've done the same to Trolls without any hesitation for no reason but to just kill their women and children. I have literally zero sympathy for any Alliance race. Each and every single one was the reason for an almost-end of the world in one way or another - be it summoning the Legion, summoning Ragnaros or spreading the plague of Undeath. Dunno what the Gnomes would have done some day probably stuff like Tschernobyl would've happened mutating basically everything.
Human genocide? No such thing. There is way too many Humans left to be calling it a genocide. They simply lost and don't forget that the Humans also brought Lordaeron to fall with the Cult of the Damend - consisting of Humans betraying their Kingdom. So at least half of the dead Humans were killed by other Humans. The Orcs were put in internment camps and made to fight as gladiators from childhood which is actually evil. Thrall literally means slave and we all still call him that - he got his name from Blackmoore, a human that raised him personally for entertainment. Growing up in these conditions makes sure that a new generation of Orcs hates the Alliance for what they did. These were the Orcs that were loyal to Garrosh and did go overboard with it. Yeah Garrosh was pissed for killing innocents back then and later nuked Theramore so dunno what the reason for that idiotic thing was but I think I remember it was like a druidic place they attacked and there were Tauren there as well which is why Garrosh got pissed.
Sorry man. I get the narrative that you're believing in but it's simply not entirely true. If you actually look at it then you'll see that most evil things the Horde did wasn't their choice and most evil the Alliance did was very much their choice. That's the thing about WoW - things aren't like they seem at first. Horde stopped being the bad guy in Warcraft 3. It was Daelin Proudmoore that started the new conflict between Horde and Alliance at the end of Warcraft 3 and this war is directly what we get thrown into when we log on WoW Classic. Jaina even stood on the Orcs side because she knew this was a completely unprovoked attack by her father and it will start a new war.
People aren’t happy because it’s a stupid idea
DARKMOON FAIRE IS IN THE DREAM CONFIRMED.
This neutrality thing is getting disgusting. Seems even with Metzen they are losing the meaning of warcraft.
There is not a single horde city in Azeroth 😅
Night night the best 💜🤍
At least it'll stay more relevant.
Hey Doran, a little correction for you , Night Elves , Blood Elves and the Crack Elves all descended from Trolls , they all used to be Trolls and split from there to make the new races of the elf variety. just figured id add this info .
Wow thanks nobody in the entire world knew this except for you
A little correction for you also. Blood Elves by default are Crack Elves, too...
Blizzard makes apology for genocide
Free Bel ameth from the night elf occupation!
This is way off. No way would the same Nightelves who some were still veterans of the original Sunwell sundering would forgive the horde this easily. They still Beef with the Bloodevles and Higbourne.
The only reason this would MAYBE make sense is if the city was under the Cenarion Circle and the Emerald Dragonflight and it functions as a Temple and not as a city.
It doesnt look or feel right, no big bear bank? The vibes dont reflect the full story of the night elves but rather just this one moment of 10.2. The buildings look great but theres an intangible element blizz always seems to mess up.
Yeah looks better than Darnasus
Will we lose the sunwell permanently midnight the sunwell was alway the center of culture of the blood elves and the high elves losing it permanently will be kind of sad
i do hope their new city actually gets more nightelf architecture, im tired of the homeless bum shacks from both the elfs and the trolls if the orcs can have massive themed cities so can the night elfs and trolls who have had massive stone buildings and walls before. update echo isles and over time add new buildings to the new nelf city that fits the vibe that inst just wood with the color purple
my issue is that it dosn't look or feel like a city. more like a small village. not exactly a place for 1000s of refugees to call home. I just want more.