Was literally here in the comments to say i thought it was a nice touch that max was quoting himself..good on you. That "No fking way..NO FKING WAY!" Will always be iconic to me.
"Ridley's too big, he'll never make it" "Bayonetta's too sexy, she'll never make it" "Sora's too much of a hassle, he'll never make it" Team Dream's Come True.
Think about it. The amount of shit confirmed for smash meant people were honestly, feasibly thinking that Master Chief and Doom slayer were realistic chances. Like, actively anticipating their arrival. Imagine being told that 5 years ago. Not even Mugen and Deviantart would've thought that crossover. .......The fact is Doom guy did actually make it in some form. What the hell.
@@richardw1043 It's even crazier when you realize Doom slayer was going to be our "fallback" character if Nintendo couldn't get sora, that's why his mii costume is so late and out of place with the splatoon ones
What's important to remember is that when these trailers were first revealed, they didn't have the Smash logo in the beginning so it was actually a surprise mid trailer that it was Smash in the first place.
Smash trailers were and still are known for baiting you into thinking it's not smash, see Rosalina's reveal, where it looks like Kirby is getting into Mario Kart more than anything.
@@Doudoussin Not when they were live, they didn't. Go watch the Nintendo Directs were they debuted or the Game Awards footage. That's why people thought the Rosalina reveal was Kirby in Mario Kart.
Plus it was really unexpected. Nobody expected characters like Lucas and Roy to come back and in a time where there were a lot of leaked characters, Lucas was one who nobody knew it was coming before the trailer.
@@Hatsworthful Lightweight was broken and Celestial Fireworks was garbage. Besides, folding Reflect into the Counter gives her anti-zoner utility. Tbh it's honestly more like a Reflect that slaps people lightly if they hit you during it.
@@researchinbreeder Frankly i'd still take a move thats less useful but more fun/unique to use than counter (not saying it has to be one of the other two from smash4, could be a new one). Counter is already smash's "we don't know what the fuck to give so here's something to fill space" thing, and they just plain-ass refuse to make the existing ones unique. Plus out of everyone who has that kind of move palutena is by goddamn lighyears the one who has the least reason (as a character) to have it, the least they could do is give hers some sort of bonus special effect to add some diversity. EDIT: also more of a nitpick but i hate how reflect isn't a 'projectile' anymore (and it just works like zelda's neutral special).
@@iamresh Wtf, okay. Let me explain why it should have at least been a 5. For me, this trailer and this character coming to Smash is what got me into Fire Emblem, with Fates being the first game I played. Max was right about the cross promotion thing. So for people who were into Fire Emblem at the time, those in Japan who got the game sooner, and current Fire Emblem fans through hindsight, it's an amazing trailer. I know that's not everybody's experience, but it's funny how Max is so quick to sh*t on this trailer, yet rates the Minecraft Steve trailer super high when he's also indifferent to that game. He's like using the "I haven't played this game but I know it's big for some people" logic to give both high and low scores for trailers, which doesn't make any sense. I remember the trailer being poorly timed, yes, because we were sick of getting sword users, especially from Fire Emblem. BUT Fire Emblem is such a great series, nothing that comes from it can be less than a 5, unless it's like a no-effort whatsoever trailer, which we have yet to see.
@@danielmaster8776 wtf, okay. Let me explain why it should have at MOST been a 2. For me, this trailer and this character coming to Smash is what turned me off from the entire Fire Emblem Series.
Mega Man’s trailer, no matter how long ago that was, will always make me feel a jitter of excitement. love how much has change because of Sakurai’s love and care of the game.
@@mageking860 I remember the guy who shouted that at the Megaman Reveal over all of the hype you heard him clear as day and honestly his hype made me care way more than I think I would have at the time
Little Mac's trailer will always be my favourite smash 4 trailer, just that amazing artstyle for the start, the beautiful music remix of the training theme, then the speed and great showcase of his moveset. Honestly an easy 10/10 one of the trailers I could not stop watching and being a huge punch out fan it was a massive reveal :)
@@kay_sou yeah, I remenber when I first played Fates, some years after Corrin beign in Smash, and I just watched this cutscene in the game and thinked "where the hell did I watched that before?".
Hearing Max recite his original reaction to the Cloud trailer from memory gave me goosebumps. I’ve rewatched that original video so many times because it makes me so happy.
The reveal was hype but it was extra special because Mega Man was treated like dirt by Capcom prior to his reveal. 2011-2013 was Mega Man's dark age, and Smash helped revive the series
I think an important thing to know about Lucas and Roy's trailers were that initially, there was no indication that _any cut characters other than Mewtwo_ would be returning in any capacity as DLC. If they had announced more fighters would be returning as DLC after Mewtwo then it'd be understandable that their returns would be "not very surprising". That said, they didn't make it in until quite a while after Smash 4 launched, and unlike Ultimate new characters weren't given dedicated directs, so these inclusions were pretty much dropped completely out of left field in random Nintendo directs Ryu and Cloud. Not saying that should boost Max's scores for them or anything, but for anyone not familiar with the context of the Smash 4 days, these were a pretty big deal. After several Melee characters were cut from Brawl (Roy included), it was assumed cut characters were *_cut._*
Max being kinda disappointed in the returning characters as DLC in smash 4, instead of all new characters, forgets that Smash 4 wasn't like Ultimate where we were still worried about certain characters being cut or not returning. Yeah they were already in Brawl or Melee, but I think we're spoiled by Ultimate being the first to not remove any characters. While Roy Mewtwo or Lucas werent as hype for me I get why people got excited.
I agree. It's understandable that he wouldn't get the significance, but he really under-appreciates how bummed people were that Lucas was cut, or how many people wanted Mewtwo and Roy back.
@@loganm.theninja1077 Melee bringing everyone from 64 back was kind of a given tho, that roster was pretty small, even for its time But after Melee the roster pool had gotten big enough that it made sense if some of the fat got trimmed for the roster, which makes it all the more crazy that Ultimate just brought literally _everyone_ back
I was existed about the dlc but max have the right to be disappointed in the returning characters as DLC, no ? He was pretty generous with mewtwo 6/10 for someone supposed dissapointed
The Mii Fighter reveal with Reggie and Iwata was a trip back then and it’s still a trip in hindsight. Lowkey one of the wildest trailers in the series.
I'm like 90% sure that was because he was reading the chat, composed of people who do know his reaction by heart. In any case, yeah it was funny/charming as fuck
While the initial Villager trailer is pretty standard, it _did_ introduce the concept of the "Smash Invitation", which has gone on to become one of the most iconic images in gaming. Credit where credit is due haha.
2 things about Palu: 1) the shots probably meant to emphasize her accessories, but the double meaning is there 2) If people didn’t play Kid Icarus, they should’ve at least recognized her from her brief appearance in Brawl’s Subspace Emissary.
@@Neogears1312 I don't think Max is too off base there. While I guess it's possible, it's pretty highly unlikely anyone who is actively following Smash Bros, watching all the reveal trailers would be unaware of characters like Pac-Man. Even if you've never touched a Pac-Man game, you still KNOW who he is. As weird as it is, it's similar to Steve from Minecraft. You could've never touched that game before but you know for sure who Steve is (even if you just call him "that guy from Minecraft") Not saying it's a bad thing if a character is obscure or more niche but an obscure character won't get the same kind of universal pop-off as others. I mean even if you like Fire Emblem, the fact that Corrin got announced before Fates even came out outside of Japan is still gonna make you scratch your head a bit.
The Mii trailer makes me realize just how special Iwata's presidency was, I mean, that kind of stuff never happened before, and it's probably never gonna happen again.
@@artdog0100 Like, we have two videos we can look back on as evidence as to why Max is giving these trailers a 10. I mean, he even recreated his reaction to Cloud IN THIS VIDEO.
Honestly, Mega Man wins everytime. The build-up, the references to the games, and the blue bomber just moping the floor with everyone with that banging’ Wily Fortress remix never fails to get me hyped. The only other reveals in Smash that has brought me this amount of joy were Pacman, Ridley, the Belmonts, K. rool, and Sora.
I was pretty happy about the Lucas reveal when it came. At the time, Brawl had set the precedent that characters could just be cut and you wouldn't see them again, so with Lucas missing from the base roster, having him back was a pretty damn big deal, not just as a Mother 3 fan, but as someone who found him way more fun to use than Ness. And of course, characters like Mewtwo and Roy who had been missing since Melee were even bigger for some.
I think it’s still quite scummy to cut him from the roster only to add him later as paid DLC with next to no changes made to his moveset, mewtwo and Roy at least had been missing for two games at that point and also got a complete moveset overhaul. Lucas feels cheap in comparison, although it’s not the first scummy practice from Nintendo and not the last either
I kinda wish we could go back and give Cloud and Bayo CG trailers. They're hype as they are but....they would have been godlike with how good the Smash CG ones are now.
Max not knowing/forgetting that Mewtwo was in Melee is a bit hard when he rails Lucas and Roy. I know these aren't his games, but I'm sad chat didn't correct him.
It's stupid that he forgot that no one knew for sure if cut charachters would be coming back even with the promise of DLC. So Metwo, Roy, and Lucas WERE suprises for alot of people me included.
I always wanted to see Max’s reaction to Ryu’s trailer back in the day. Too bad he was leaked and couldn’t get it then. Max giving it praise now is nice.
@@SuperVada same with what happened to Terry, that's why i don't like leaks anymore, its just a spoiler for something legendary, happened now with Sora but i didn't look up any leaks so it was an amazing surprise
Leaks in my opinion ruin the fun out of these games and even some movies. Why can't we just wait till the trailer comes out or the movie come out? Why spoil the fun for other people?
Rosalina's reveal didn't have the Smash Bros logo at the beginning. People legit thought it was a trailer for new Mario Kart characters until the announcement splash screen.
So when the Theme of Love from Mother 3 started playing in Lucas' reveal, I started bawling my eyes out. The sheer power that music holds emotionally in the entire Mother series is second to none. Theme of Love, You've Come Far Ness, Eight Melodies, Pollyanna; once you've played them you really begin to understand the power they have. And of course the greatest of them all. Smiles and Tears. For those of us who grew up with or even found a new love in the Mother series, Smiles and Tears holds a very, very special place in all our hearts.
I love how Max's original Cloud reaction was so hype, that even he is quoting it word for word in the review. It was such a good reaction too. Max's reactions always feel so much more genuine unlike a lot of other RUclipsr's who are just *so* over the top, with them constantly throwing every guess they can come up with just so they can act like they called it or figured it out so fast. Then acting like every character is exactly who they've been waiting for their entire lives.
26:20 While the Mega Man reveal is still my personal favorite, this trailer- to me- was neither a Lucina nor a Robin reveal... but a Captain Falcon reveal! I remember as time went on and more about this game was shown I was growing increasingly worried that Captain Falcon- one of my personal favorite Smash Bros Characters- wouldn't make the cut, as he hadn't had a relevant game in... a good long while and it was the fourth iteration of the Smash series that I felt would eventually have to start downsizing it's roster somehow. I was so stoked when he showed up here, you have no idea. I remember my comment just as clearly today: "Captain Falcon is so strong it took THREE Fire Emblem characters to take him on even footing... and one of them got punched right out of the roster!" Chrom would eventually show up in Ultimate, but he didn't feature in Smash 4. He had to recover from his injuries first. (Yes, I know he's in Robin's Final Smash)
My favorite part of the Lucina trailer is that even Nintendo leaned into the Captain Falcon's internet fame and gave him a badass part in an animated trailer. While other returning characters were simply introduced with a few screenshots, Captain Falcon was shown mudstomping Chrom and Lucina without breaking a sweat in their own trailer.
Considering the roster was still mostly unknown at the time, unlike Ultimate, the Robin/Lucina trailer was also Captain Falcon's reveal, which was significant because people genuinely didn't know if Falcon was going to make the cut. I ended up playing both Robin and Falcon anyway, but knowing he was in made it so much more hype for me.
Greninja's one of my favorite starters so I'm biased, but I would've rated his reveal a little higher. You got Charizard as a solo character, Greninja as a representative back when Gen 6 was still really new, confirmation that Lucario was coming back, and showed that Mega Charizard X and Mega Lucario were in the game. Before GameFreak, apparently, hated Megas.
That Rosalina trailer gets me every time, because the music they used is one of my favorite pieces. There's just something so friggin wholesome about it.
Man that reenactment of the Cloud trailer reaction is pure gold! Laughed as much as when I saw the reaction the first time. Also it was thanks to the Cloud Reaction that I started following Max and I've been a Dood ever since! SHINE ON!!!
It’s been a nonstop ride since Smash 4, like 7 years of character after character that we forget we used to have to wait years between entries each console generation to get new characters
The Fire Emblem hate really started with Corrin when you think about it. And Byleth took most of the hate from it many years later. However, many like Awakening because it saved the franchise but you can easily tell Smash characters from this game are the real problem. There is 3 of them in Smash, 2 of them being echo fighters!
That was isolated behaviours and the reccurent counter then. Because it really became an actual mouvement when people started to complain about Corrin who was just a way to promote the game and who was totally unknown outside from Japan. I totally remember that people became mad because they got a character they didn't even know and started to see the Fire Emblem favoritism and to massively say Fire Emblem doesn't deserve so much from this moment.
The reasoning within fe community wanting to drop corrin over roy was always a lil weird considering a) hes kinda like the epitome of where the "fe characters are just marth" started from b) he's probably the lesser unique fighter and rep of the franchise considering the moves comparison c) I mean he technically was in the same boat as corrin back in melee except the difference being his game didn't exist in Japan either so he technically debuted in smash
It didn't helped that the character was in a game that hadn't been released on the west yet. You have so many fan favorite characters to put into the game, and you literally put an unknown from a franchise in a game that already bloated with too many characters from that franchise? I'm not surprised a lot of people were at the very least livid.
@@kyurei4478 the Reason for Fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligent Systems had an idea for Fates to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Intelligent Systems knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
Lowkey, I really miss the old smash feeling. When it was a Nintendo crossover not that ambitious. Moments like 2:12 or 19:47 really hyped me back then, seeing my favorite Nintendo franchises coexist. Nowadays if a character is not a third party it's disliked. And I don't say this as a bad thing. I just love that simple emotion. The standard grew, so the expectations.
The only time it was "not that ambitious" was when the first game released, ever since melee was announced smash has been a BIG deal, it only got more famous over each release but it’s very clear that every game has been a big deal since. Saying otherwise is very much wrong and most likely it is just you who saw it from a different perspective, being a kid at the time of smash 4 probably
You know how every went NUTS over Sora's reveal? I had that same energy when Mega Man made it into Smash. I could not believe it and was on air for days/weeks. I grew up on Mega Man so seeing him in my favorite crossover series was HUGE.
Honestly same for both. I grew up with the DS and GBA so i played a Lot of the Megaman and Kingdom hearts games on those systems, so having both in smash Is exciting.
I didn't go nuts over it. I still believe it should've been Crono. I wanted Crono in since melee even though brawl was the first smash bros game that I properly played
Ah, these were simpler times. When trailers were hype no matter the character, people weren’t threatening Sakurai/the Smash team for not adding certain characters, and generally lower overall toxicity.
Robin was actually a pretty big moment for FE fans. Awakening was the game that (for better or worse) brought the series back into the mainstream, and Robin is arguably the most important of the 3 main characters in it. Also, Robin using magic was FINALLY a shift away from literally every FE character in Smash only using 1 of the many weapon types in the series.
@AT Productions the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
@AT Productions Fates was not even released back then in usa when he was revealed and the trailer received a lot of backlash similar to byleth because it was mostly destined to promote the game and he was another anime character for some people, and fates is the most hated Fe in the series. It was never the same thing for Robbin
I agree that Megaman & Cloud had two of the best overall trailers (though Palutena’s reveal had arguably the best non-CG animation), but I disagree entirely with Max’s rating of the Robin reveal. What with Fire Emblem basically being Nintendo’s post-Mario Final Fantasy, Robin showing up was one of Nintendo’s biggest flexes because they managed to prove that they had the ability to revive one of their own intellectual properties and stick it in Smash Bros. Gameplay-wise, non-Fire Emblem fans also need to remember that Robin’s contribution to Smash includes being the first character to introduce limited resources as part of a character’s gameplay mechanic. Whereas Lucina as an echo fighter served to show Sakurai’s team had both the ability (and more importantly the BUDGET) to pull a fast one on us by using Lucina’s reveal as a red-herring, Robin is all about micromanaging resources mid-battle. But of course, all that matters are the memes and third-party characters, right? Woo. TL;DR: Non-Nintendo characters are cool, but a lot of them were only made possible because Nintendo knows how to flex. Robin + Lucina = BIG flex.
I wish I had actually felt the intended shock during Ryu's reveal, if it wasn't for those good-for-nothing twats who were quite active leaking and spoiling shit. The reference at the beginning of it was perfect, ideal throwback, but at the moment it was just a lukewarm "ah yeah I knew this was coming already, cool."
It was an oversight by the devs, which definitely wouldn’t happen in Modern Smash, given the secrecy. The devs left code for Roy and Ryu in one of the updates.
I loved seeing him referencing his original reaction to Cloud. I still go back and watch that one now and again. His reaction to Cloud specifically is... kind of nostalgic to me, honestly.
Catch me always coming in for the Fire Emblem trailer reactions, I would like to bring up that the reason why Robin wasn't feeling quite as familiar as Lucina is because Robin was a customizable avatar acting as the second protagonist (with Chrom) of FE Awakening. Most people just designed their own and renamed them, so "Robin", as a character, wasn't quite as prominently shown, and even for pre-release Awakening stuff, Robin was mostly shown to be hooded, or to have multiple designs. Awakening released in 2013 (2012 in Japan), so neither Lucina nor Robin were really long running characters. I think at the time of their reveal, they may've been the most recent existing characters to get added into Smash, but I'm not 100% sure on that. At the time, Awakening did end up becoming one of the more popular games on the 3DS though, selling a million copies within a year or two of release (ftr, both Awakening and Fates are currently sitting in the top 30 highest selling 3DS games of all time). Far be it from me to hate an FE character addition, but I do think Corrin was a little odd. Being released before the english version of Fates dropped, coupled with the fact even people who knew about Corrin weren't the biggest fans of them as a character, thanks to Fates having poorly written them, it just leaves a strange feeling, even for me at the time. I had imported Fates and read through most of the game's fan-translation before the english release, so I was well aware of their quality as a character (or lack thereof), so I was far better equipped than most people, FE fans included, going into this reveal. I was hyped about it for sure, but less about the fact that it was Corrin, and moreso the fact that this series I had been in love with for over a decade (now nearly two decades), that had been largely ignored by practically everyone, was finally getting some extreme recognition. I don't care what anyone says, it warms my heart to know how much Sakurai loved Fire Emblem. I do think Azura should've been the Fates rep over Corrin though, had there HAD to've been one, but I do have to admit that Corrin's tools in the game are fun, at least. I just wish they were written better in their original game haha. They're very flaky, childish, they lack awareness, most of the other main characters do all the heavy lifting (both in writing and in combat), it's hard to really get a good gauge on them. The localization for Fates is also notoriously poor, pulling tension out of scenes and improperly presenting certain characters. Fates is a decent game overall, and I do recommend it to anyone interested in the series, just not as a first game... Finally, in much the same way that Roy was added to Melee to promote the then unreleased Fire Emblem: Binding Blade in Japan, I definitely agree that Corrin mimicked that choice without a doubt, even if Fates had released in Japan at the time. Fates did get many trailers in english before Corrin's reveal for Smash, so they were "recognizable", but as previously mentioned, yeah not many people actually knew them.
@@EphemeralBlitz the Reason for Fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligent Systems had an idea for Fates to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Intelligent Systems knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
I died at that re-enactment of the reveal reaction to Cloud...I have that video burned to memory by now, so hearing him repeat lines from that just got me good. Bravo you wonderful madman.
Nostalgic I can't believe how long ago this was it still feels like it should be today at times. Summer 2014 was like nothing else with all the hype and the esrb leak and stuff. I was so big into Fire Emblem Awakening, seeing Robin's trailer with Lucina and the weapon switching and durability then was just fucking incredible. I'm also glad Chrom got his chance lol.
Lucina and Robin's trailer was actually also the reveal of Captain Falcon. Even though he was an OG veteran of the series, a few months prior, every *_other_* Veteran had been revealed over Sakurai's Twitter all in the same week, but Captain Falcon was notably absent from that.. Meanwhile in an interview at around the time of the Palutena trailer, Sakurai is quoted as having said that Smash4 was going to reevaluate character inclusions. And with F-Zero being a pretty dead franchise there was serious talk that he'd been removed. It was serious hype seeing those eyes light up and that smile.
I will say, the one place where Max's biases become most known is in reaction to the 3DS fighters. Awakening pretty much blew up the Fire Emblem series so was definitely not a "who?" pick and was well received. Likewise Palutena got big fanfare because Kid Icarus Uprising was iconic for the whole system. Definitely not an unknown character.
It’s kind of like that with every Nintendo character. People forget amid all the hype for 3rd party reveals that this is still the Nintendo fighting game at the end of the day. You have to expect Nintendo characters to show up; it’s not a wasted slot or forcing YOUR most wanted 3rd party pick out. No, Robin and Little Mac won’t have as much of an impact as the biggest Capcom or Square character getting announced... but it’s about Nintendo’s legacy first, and gaming as a whole’s legacy second. It’s like asking why there weren’t more Mortal Kombat characters in Injustice. Yeah it’s a great bonus, but at the end of the day, you’re gonna have more DC characters in your DC fighting game.
The biggest giveaway is the Shulk Trailer IMO. He knew who Shulk was because he's friends with Simmons, but Robin and Palu were easily bigger "Reveals" to the general fanbases than Shulk was at the time. So his biases show extremely hard in that stretch.
@@ItsYuhBoyyyy it makes perfect sense cuz hes based. His great disbelief of Cloud making it into Smash because hes never been in a Nintendo game is not true, because there was KH: Chain of Memories for the GBA and Cloud was in that game
Megaman's trailer even still to this day is one of if not the best trailer for a new Smash character ever. Not even that huge of a Megaman fan having really only played X and X2, but the buildup to Megaman's reveal to all the love they show him in the trailer, its just perfect
Man, it's been such a long time since Cloud's reveal for Smash. Definitely one of the vids that introduced me to Max's channel. His enthusiasm and ability to hype up things are so contagious and wholesome.
It was my first video of his. All the other reactions didnt pick up on the opening from FF7 and were guessing Wolf. Max was the first one to immediately pick up that it was related to FF7. I had a similar reaction to Max when Cloud was announced, where I recognized the FF7 opening and the Smash Bros Logo made me lose my mind. Max's reaction is iconic to me because it mirrors my own.
@@thefeatheredbutterfly7335 Here’s the thing, Medusa mentions how her and Pit last saw one another 25 years ago, and he had to be at least 12-13 years old back then (maybe older, who knows?) Strange fact, but I feel that it fits with the Kid Icarus series.
I just want to point out that for the Mega Man reveal, they chose to play the two most iconic songs in the series, Mega Man 2's title theme, and the Dr. Wily Stage 1 theme, also from Mega Man 2.
I knew nothing about Shulk before that trailer, but seeing Shulk seeing visions like in That's So Raven holding his own with Link and Marth and seeing him change his stats made me intrigued.
Minor correction, Roy was in Super Smash Bros. Melee before his source game, Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade. Corrin wasn't the first character to be added to Smash before their source game.
I think Roy's trailer was undervalued. He was so requested to come back after not returning for brawl, it was pretty hype getting him and Marth in the same game again. The og sword boys
The Cloud reveal was pretty much the confirmation I needed that anybody, Nintendo based/affiliated or not, could be on this game. Was an absolutely mind breaking trailer
his megaman reaction was my earliest exposure to him, and i wouldn't even know it was him till the 2018 game awards, when i subscribed and have been an avid watcher ever since
My exposure to Max was pretty similar. I remember seeing his mega man reaction way back in the day, but I didn’t know who he was until a few years later. That’s nuts to think about
Corrin wasn't too surprising because, if you can believe it, there actually WAS a precedent for a character from an unreleased Fire Emblem game being added to Smash in order to promote the new game. Roy was added to Melee about 4 months BEFORE Fire Emblem 6 was released in Japan. I believe Sakurai even admitted to not really knowing what to do with him as a character. Even trying to differentiate him from Marth by having him deal more damage by hitting FURTHER from the tip of his sword, despite his actual in-game animations showing him almost always doing the exact opposite.
IIRC, Roy in Melee was the first cross-promotion character; Marth as well to an extent since Fire Emblem on the NES never got released outside Japan at that point. Basically, it's always Fire Emblem
Max quoting himself during the Cloud trailer is peak humor, holy shit. Even the inflections were on-point.
We were all quoting Max's reaction to the trailer in the chat on Twitch, it was hilarious.
Yes that was amazing
Makes you wanna watch the actual reveal trailer again because as a FF7 fan, I lost my shit the same way max did
He definitely watched that clip himself almost as many times as the rest of us have
Was literally here in the comments to say i thought it was a nice touch that max was quoting himself..good on you.
That "No fking way..NO FKING WAY!" Will always be iconic to me.
"Ridley's too big, he'll never make it"
"Bayonetta's too sexy, she'll never make it"
"Sora's too much of a hassle, he'll never make it"
Team Dream's Come True.
And sonic. "He's third party, he can't get in!" (Melee to his brawl reveal)
Think about it. The amount of shit confirmed for smash meant people were honestly, feasibly thinking that Master Chief and Doom slayer were realistic chances. Like, actively anticipating their arrival. Imagine being told that 5 years ago. Not even Mugen and Deviantart would've thought that crossover.
.......The fact is Doom guy did actually make it in some form. What the hell.
Team's Dreams Have Been Redeemed.
“Goku is not a videogame character, he’ll never make it”
@@richardw1043 It's even crazier when you realize Doom slayer was going to be our "fallback" character if Nintendo couldn't get sora, that's why his mii costume is so late and out of place with the splatoon ones
What's important to remember is that when these trailers were first revealed, they didn't have the Smash logo in the beginning so it was actually a surprise mid trailer that it was Smash in the first place.
Smash trailers were and still are known for baiting you into thinking it's not smash, see Rosalina's reveal, where it looks like Kirby is getting into Mario Kart more than anything.
@@PrayForTanqueray And to this day, I still wish for a Smash Kart to be made. We were getting close when it got Link and Isabelle.
@@PrayForTanqueray Pyra and Mythra’s trailer made me think we were getting essentially what is Future Connected for Xenoblade 2.
I think most of them had the logo actually, including the reveal trailer
@@Doudoussin Not when they were live, they didn't. Go watch the Nintendo Directs were they debuted or the Game Awards footage. That's why people thought the Rosalina reveal was Kirby in Mario Kart.
Cute reference: Lucas lives in the Nowhere Islands in Mother 3. Hence, "Lucas comes out of Nowhere!"
Ahh! I never understood that. Thanks for the info!
Plus it was really unexpected. Nobody expected characters like Lucas and Roy to come back and in a time where there were a lot of leaked characters, Lucas was one who nobody knew it was coming before the trailer.
Mother 3? Interesting
I also like the idea that Lucas is saving Ness. Because in Brawl Ness "dies" protecting Lucas. So its nice to see Lucas finally repay the favor.
Boy, those would be fun references for Nintendo to make... IF WE GOT THE GAME IN NORTH AMERICA!!
The fact that Palutena literally just said "Screw you pit, this is my fight now" and just sent him straight into the sky is hilarious to me
Na, she saw Link and said, "it's time for some 'divine intervention' ;D". It's even in her voice and that little head tilt.
i just wish they gave her one of her other two down specials instead of the counter in ultimate.
@@Hatsworthful Lightweight was broken and Celestial Fireworks was garbage. Besides, folding Reflect into the Counter gives her anti-zoner utility. Tbh it's honestly more like a Reflect that slaps people lightly if they hit you during it.
@@researchinbreeder Frankly i'd still take a move thats less useful but more fun/unique to use than counter (not saying it has to be one of the other two from smash4, could be a new one).
Counter is already smash's "we don't know what the fuck to give so here's something to fill space" thing, and they just plain-ass refuse to make the existing ones unique.
Plus out of everyone who has that kind of move palutena is by goddamn lighyears the one who has the least reason (as a character) to have it, the least they could do is give hers some sort of bonus special effect to add some diversity.
EDIT: also more of a nitpick but i hate how reflect isn't a 'projectile' anymore (and it just works like zelda's neutral special).
Naw, she just wants link’s master sword 😏
Max still has the World Record speed run for finding out it was Cloud in the reveal
Max's reaction for cloud for smash 4 is still legendary to this day!
As legendary as the serhiroth reaction
@@thebloodedge284 beat me to it 😭
Can I get a amen?
I think he was the only person in the entire internet who recognized the music within three notes. lmao
@@kriscynical oh yeah without a doubt
Love how he's like "Mewtwo is a great reveal" then shits on Lucas & Roy for being returning characters.
I cringed hard when he gave Corrin's trailer a 3.
@@danielmaster8776 yeah 3 is too high
@@iamresh Wtf, okay. Let me explain why it should have at least been a 5. For me, this trailer and this character coming to Smash is what got me into Fire Emblem, with Fates being the first game I played. Max was right about the cross promotion thing. So for people who were into Fire Emblem at the time, those in Japan who got the game sooner, and current Fire Emblem fans through hindsight, it's an amazing trailer. I know that's not everybody's experience, but it's funny how Max is so quick to sh*t on this trailer, yet rates the Minecraft Steve trailer super high when he's also indifferent to that game. He's like using the "I haven't played this game but I know it's big for some people" logic to give both high and low scores for trailers, which doesn't make any sense. I remember the trailer being poorly timed, yes, because we were sick of getting sword users, especially from Fire Emblem. BUT Fire Emblem is such a great series, nothing that comes from it can be less than a 5, unless it's like a no-effort whatsoever trailer, which we have yet to see.
@@danielmaster8776 wtf, okay. Let me explain why it should have at MOST been a 2. For me, this trailer and this character coming to Smash is what turned me off from the entire Fire Emblem Series.
@@threethej_rock Are you so creatively deprived that you had to copy my comment format? I hate it when people do that.
Mega Man’s trailer, no matter how long ago that was, will always make me feel a jitter of excitement. love how much has change because of Sakurai’s love and care of the game.
That trailer singlehandedly cured a flu I had by hype alone.
SUPER FIGHTING ROBOT. MEGA MAAAAAAAAN!
I remembered max reaction was like: oh fu*k you! Oh fuc* you!
@@mageking860 I remember the guy who shouted that at the Megaman Reveal over all of the hype you heard him clear as day and honestly his hype made me care way more than I think I would have at the time
@@MineCreeperLPs Yup. D1 is his name
Little Mac's trailer will always be my favourite smash 4 trailer, just that amazing artstyle for the start, the beautiful music remix of the training theme, then the speed and great showcase of his moveset. Honestly an easy 10/10 one of the trailers
I could not stop watching and being a huge punch out fan it was a massive reveal :)
Same
I remember being bummed that Cloud didn't get a CG trailer, but Sephiroth's made up for it.
Yes, we technically got the best CG trailer that has both cloudo-desu and sephiroth-chan
Nintendo realized for Smash Ultimate how great the trailers were and decided to use the budget on trailers for DLC
To be fair, no DLC got a CG trailer aside from Corrin, but that was just literally a reused cutscene from Fates.
@@kay_sou yeah, I remenber when I first played Fates, some years after Corrin beign in Smash, and I just watched this cutscene in the game and thinked "where the hell did I watched that before?".
In hindsight I don’t think it was a budget thing, I just think Square Enix wouldn’t allow it because they were working on the remake at the time.
Hearing Max recite his original reaction to the Cloud trailer from memory gave me goosebumps. I’ve rewatched that original video so many times because it makes me so happy.
Maaaan, i remember the internet going NUTS when Megaman was revealed, and even more when we first saw his Final Smash. Good Times
The reveal was hype but it was extra special because Mega Man was treated like dirt by Capcom prior to his reveal. 2011-2013 was Mega Man's dark age, and Smash helped revive the series
Yooo I remember that day so clearly, I was going nuts, its such a good trailer even to this day.
@@exmaister3 still watch it from time to time.
@@bwoeYT
It also didn’t help that Megaman Legends 3 was canceled in 2011, 10 YEARS AGO, yeah remember MML3?
SUPERFIGHTINGROBOT…MEGAMAN…FIGHTINGTOSAVETHEWORLD
I think an important thing to know about Lucas and Roy's trailers were that initially, there was no indication that _any cut characters other than Mewtwo_ would be returning in any capacity as DLC. If they had announced more fighters would be returning as DLC after Mewtwo then it'd be understandable that their returns would be "not very surprising". That said, they didn't make it in until quite a while after Smash 4 launched, and unlike Ultimate new characters weren't given dedicated directs, so these inclusions were pretty much dropped completely out of left field in random Nintendo directs Ryu and Cloud.
Not saying that should boost Max's scores for them or anything, but for anyone not familiar with the context of the Smash 4 days, these were a pretty big deal. After several Melee characters were cut from Brawl (Roy included), it was assumed cut characters were *_cut._*
Max being kinda disappointed in the returning characters as DLC in smash 4, instead of all new characters, forgets that Smash 4 wasn't like Ultimate where we were still worried about certain characters being cut or not returning. Yeah they were already in Brawl or Melee, but I think we're spoiled by Ultimate being the first to not remove any characters. While Roy Mewtwo or Lucas werent as hype for me I get why people got excited.
I got real excited when I saw Wolf back.
Ultimate isn’t the first to not remove characters, it was Melee. All the characters from 64 made it back.
I agree. It's understandable that he wouldn't get the significance, but he really under-appreciates how bummed people were that Lucas was cut, or how many people wanted Mewtwo and Roy back.
@@loganm.theninja1077 Melee bringing everyone from 64 back was kind of a given tho, that roster was pretty small, even for its time
But after Melee the roster pool had gotten big enough that it made sense if some of the fat got trimmed for the roster, which makes it all the more crazy that Ultimate just brought literally _everyone_ back
I was existed about the dlc but max have the right to be disappointed in the returning characters as DLC, no ? He was pretty generous with mewtwo 6/10 for someone supposed dissapointed
The Mii Fighter reveal with Reggie and Iwata was a trip back then and it’s still a trip in hindsight. Lowkey one of the wildest trailers in the series.
I couldn’t stop giggling when Max started reenacting his Cloud reaction.
I'm like 90% sure that was because he was reading the chat, composed of people who do know his reaction by heart. In any case, yeah it was funny/charming as fuck
Yeah its so funny
While the initial Villager trailer is pretty standard, it _did_ introduce the concept of the "Smash Invitation", which has gone on to become one of the most iconic images in gaming. Credit where credit is due haha.
2 things about Palu:
1) the shots probably meant to emphasize her accessories, but the double meaning is there
2) If people didn’t play Kid Icarus, they should’ve at least recognized her from her brief appearance in Brawl’s Subspace Emissary.
True, but she was only in 1 scene which was when she gave Pit his arrows. But she’s also in Pit’s final smash in Brawl
And Pit's old final smash
Yeah Max is crazy with how much he's focusing on people knowing about the character, Like you can make that argument for every character.
Yeah Kid Icarus Uprising also tended to go under a lot of people’s radars too I noticed
@@Neogears1312 I don't think Max is too off base there. While I guess it's possible, it's pretty highly unlikely anyone who is actively following Smash Bros, watching all the reveal trailers would be unaware of characters like Pac-Man. Even if you've never touched a Pac-Man game, you still KNOW who he is. As weird as it is, it's similar to Steve from Minecraft. You could've never touched that game before but you know for sure who Steve is (even if you just call him "that guy from Minecraft")
Not saying it's a bad thing if a character is obscure or more niche but an obscure character won't get the same kind of universal pop-off as others. I mean even if you like Fire Emblem, the fact that Corrin got announced before Fates even came out outside of Japan is still gonna make you scratch your head a bit.
The Mii trailer makes me realize just how special Iwata's presidency was, I mean, that kind of stuff never happened before, and it's probably never gonna happen again.
There's not a day that goes by where Max doesn't lose his shit knowing Cloud got in Smash.
Sephiroth was the same for him too. It was like he prayed it into existence.
@@artdog0100 Like, we have two videos we can look back on as evidence as to why Max is giving these trailers a 10. I mean, he even recreated his reaction to Cloud IN THIS VIDEO.
@RandomName I got some news for you... IF you like Max's videos, you're probably a geek too.
Honestly, Mega Man wins everytime. The build-up, the references to the games, and the blue bomber just moping the floor with everyone with that banging’ Wily Fortress remix never fails to get me hyped. The only other reveals in Smash that has brought me this amount of joy were Pacman, Ridley, the Belmonts, K. rool, and Sora.
I vividly remember people losing their shit with the Megaman trailer. Even i got goosebumps from it and i haven't even played the game.
Little bit sad when Nintendo shows more love and care for Megaman than Capcom has in years.
Memgaman reveal was my favorite out everyone.
The Iwata vs Reggie Trailer will still be my favorites! RIP Iwata man!
Same 💖
Oh iwata!!😭😭😭
I was pretty happy about the Lucas reveal when it came. At the time, Brawl had set the precedent that characters could just be cut and you wouldn't see them again, so with Lucas missing from the base roster, having him back was a pretty damn big deal, not just as a Mother 3 fan, but as someone who found him way more fun to use than Ness. And of course, characters like Mewtwo and Roy who had been missing since Melee were even bigger for some.
I think it’s still quite scummy to cut him from the roster only to add him later as paid DLC with next to no changes made to his moveset, mewtwo and Roy at least had been missing for two games at that point and also got a complete moveset overhaul.
Lucas feels cheap in comparison, although it’s not the first scummy practice from Nintendo and not the last either
I kinda wish we could go back and give Cloud and Bayo CG trailers. They're hype as they are but....they would have been godlike with how good the Smash CG ones are now.
At least Sephiroth's trailer gave cloud some justice.
& bayo was there lmao
Ryu needs one too.
Man, am I glad the Smash Ult DLC got Digital Frontier trailers.
Max not knowing/forgetting that Mewtwo was in Melee is a bit hard when he rails Lucas and Roy. I know these aren't his games, but I'm sad chat didn't correct him.
His chat is as fgc as him
@@Color_Splsh fgc?
@@leocapn1069 fighting game community
Hehe
It's stupid that he forgot that no one knew for sure if cut charachters would be coming back even with the promise of DLC. So Metwo, Roy, and Lucas WERE suprises for alot of people me included.
I always wanted to see Max’s reaction to Ryu’s trailer back in the day. Too bad he was leaked and couldn’t get it then.
Max giving it praise now is nice.
I never saw the Ryu leak! I lost my mind when i saw the reveal for Ryu!
I remembered the leaks. Felt annoy because of that.
@@SuperVada same with what happened to Terry, that's why i don't like leaks anymore, its just a spoiler for something legendary, happened now with Sora but i didn't look up any leaks so it was an amazing surprise
Leaks in my opinion ruin the fun out of these games and even some movies. Why can't we just wait till the trailer comes out or the movie come out? Why spoil the fun for other people?
@@stoked-6996 agreed
The mii fighter trailer is so nice, you can see how much Iwata loved his company and what a fun loving guy he was
Max’s reaction to cloud will forever be the BEST!!!!
Second only to his Sephiroth reaction
Nah his cloud reaction is on par when he cried reacting to killer instinct returning to xbox
Oh man! It’s the whole reason I ONLY watch his reactions to stuff.
Mac's trailer is so good, having Doc coach him through out the trailer was awesome
I love Max parodying his own reaction to the Cloud reveal in the trailer lmao
It's kinda sad he's missing the context on many reveals here, but his reactions are as priceless as ever
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Context...?
@@oBuLLzEyEo1013 iirc, the Roy and Ryu reveal got leaked.
Rosalina's reveal didn't have the Smash Bros logo at the beginning. People legit thought it was a trailer for new Mario Kart characters until the announcement splash screen.
So when the Theme of Love from Mother 3 started playing in Lucas' reveal, I started bawling my eyes out. The sheer power that music holds emotionally in the entire Mother series is second to none. Theme of Love, You've Come Far Ness, Eight Melodies, Pollyanna; once you've played them you really begin to understand the power they have.
And of course the greatest of them all. Smiles and Tears. For those of us who grew up with or even found a new love in the Mother series, Smiles and Tears holds a very, very special place in all our hearts.
Yeah if Max had more familiarity with Mother 3 I think his tune would have shifted lol
I love how Max's original Cloud reaction was so hype, that even he is quoting it word for word in the review. It was such a good reaction too. Max's reactions always feel so much more genuine unlike a lot of other RUclipsr's who are just *so* over the top, with them constantly throwing every guess they can come up with just so they can act like they called it or figured it out so fast. Then acting like every character is exactly who they've been waiting for their entire lives.
Me being a Paultena-stan since Kid Icarus Uprising, I laughed my ass off as Max noticing the trailer properly.
26:20 While the Mega Man reveal is still my personal favorite, this trailer- to me- was neither a Lucina nor a Robin reveal... but a Captain Falcon reveal! I remember as time went on and more about this game was shown I was growing increasingly worried that Captain Falcon- one of my personal favorite Smash Bros Characters- wouldn't make the cut, as he hadn't had a relevant game in... a good long while and it was the fourth iteration of the Smash series that I felt would eventually have to start downsizing it's roster somehow. I was so stoked when he showed up here, you have no idea.
I remember my comment just as clearly today: "Captain Falcon is so strong it took THREE Fire Emblem characters to take him on even footing... and one of them got punched right out of the roster!"
Chrom would eventually show up in Ultimate, but he didn't feature in Smash 4. He had to recover from his injuries first.
(Yes, I know he's in Robin's Final Smash)
My favorite part of the Lucina trailer is that even Nintendo leaned into the Captain Falcon's internet fame and gave him a badass part in an animated trailer. While other returning characters were simply introduced with a few screenshots, Captain Falcon was shown mudstomping Chrom and Lucina without breaking a sweat in their own trailer.
Mewtwo's announcement seems so quiet without Etika's scream in the distance.
God I know right its so nostalgic remembering it
Wait which scream? The one during the mewtwo reveal or during the bridge jump?
@@DANCERcow dude are you serious?
@@DANCERcow Mewtwo reveal
@@DANCERcow "LOL OMG I MAKE FUN OF DEAD GUY I SO GOOD TROLL LOLOLOLOL"
This is the translation for those who don't know how to read stupid.
Considering the roster was still mostly unknown at the time, unlike Ultimate, the Robin/Lucina trailer was also Captain Falcon's reveal, which was significant because people genuinely didn't know if Falcon was going to make the cut. I ended up playing both Robin and Falcon anyway, but knowing he was in made it so much more hype for me.
I agree with max. As cool as cloud is I wouldn't put his trailer on the same level as Palutena or any of the Ultimate trailers
Sephiroth at least got the treatment he deserved
I don't know, piranha plant's trailer was about the same level
Aside from the announcement itself, the trailer for Cloud was pretty weak.
@@ScrubTheNub it was fire.
@@ScrubTheNub just cause it doesn't have a cgi trailer doesn't mean it was weak.
Greninja's one of my favorite starters so I'm biased, but I would've rated his reveal a little higher. You got Charizard as a solo character, Greninja as a representative back when Gen 6 was still really new, confirmation that Lucario was coming back, and showed that Mega Charizard X and Mega Lucario were in the game. Before GameFreak, apparently, hated Megas.
They never "hated megas". Megas were just meant to be in one gen. That they were even in two was bizarre.
Actually Robin and Lucina's trailer was well received. Awakening was a phenomenum that revived the franchise.
If it's not FF7 or capcum max wouldn't understand how other franchises makes people feel the same way as he does with FF7
@@ken7007 sad true
They are still fire emblem characters, so 90% of people don't care
Yes seeing people randomly bringing up FE to hate on it like they have PTSD gives me more fuel to dunk on people as byleth
@@Lincolnrocknroll In case you didn't noticed it yet, FE is huge so way more people care than you think.
That Rosalina trailer gets me every time, because the music they used is one of my favorite pieces. There's just something so friggin wholesome about it.
my fav trailer was 7:00
Smash 4 and Ultimate's trailers are basically what we get instead of Subspace's cutscenes. And I'm okay with that.
The fact that Max can recite his reaction to the cloud trailer warms my heart. I too can recite word for word his reaction lol
I love his little callback to his initial reaction to Cloud's reveal... In a way, he vocalized ALL of our disbelief that day.
Man that reenactment of the Cloud trailer reaction is pure gold! Laughed as much as when I saw the reaction the first time. Also it was thanks to the Cloud Reaction that I started following Max and I've been a Dood ever since! SHINE ON!!!
Megaman and Cloud's reveals were the hypest reveals at the time, I wish I could watch them for the first time again
I’m glad to know that Max can quote his Cloud reveal reaction video line by line.
We’ve seen so many reveals that most of this seems ancient by now.
It’s been a nonstop ride since Smash 4, like 7 years of character after character that we forget we used to have to wait years between entries each console generation to get new characters
The Fire Emblem hate really started with Corrin when you think about it. And Byleth took most of the hate from it many years later. However, many like Awakening because it saved the franchise but you can easily tell Smash characters from this game are the real problem. There is 3 of them in Smash, 2 of them being echo fighters!
Nah it was def the awakening duo followed by Roy considering i saw people were complaining about swords when shulk came around
That was isolated behaviours and the reccurent counter then. Because it really became an actual mouvement when people started to complain about Corrin who was just a way to promote the game and who was totally unknown outside from Japan. I totally remember that people became mad because they got a character they didn't even know and started to see the Fire Emblem favoritism and to massively say Fire Emblem doesn't deserve so much from this moment.
The reasoning within fe community wanting to drop corrin over roy was always a lil weird considering
a) hes kinda like the epitome of where the "fe characters are just marth" started from
b) he's probably the lesser unique fighter and rep of the franchise considering the moves comparison
c) I mean he technically was in the same boat as corrin back in melee except the difference being his game didn't exist in Japan either so he technically debuted in smash
It didn't helped that the character was in a game that hadn't been released on the west yet. You have so many fan favorite characters to put into the game, and you literally put an unknown from a franchise in a game that already bloated with too many characters from that franchise? I'm not surprised a lot of people were at the very least livid.
@@kyurei4478 the Reason for Fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligent Systems had an idea for Fates to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Intelligent Systems knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
I love how Link is the guy that newcomers have to fight. Like he’s known to these other universes as this great formidable warrior.
I mean he IS the legendary hero of time, it makes sense if you think about it. It's the only guy from 64 that's actually a warrior
@@fuckcontinentals Mario is great too :>
Lowkey, I really miss the old smash feeling. When it was a Nintendo crossover not that ambitious.
Moments like 2:12 or 19:47 really hyped me back then, seeing my favorite Nintendo franchises coexist.
Nowadays if a character is not a third party it's disliked. And I don't say this as a bad thing. I just love that simple emotion.
The standard grew, so the expectations.
The only time it was "not that ambitious" was when the first game released, ever since melee was announced smash has been a BIG deal, it only got more famous over each release but it’s very clear that every game has been a big deal since. Saying otherwise is very much wrong and most likely it is just you who saw it from a different perspective, being a kid at the time of smash 4 probably
You know how every went NUTS over Sora's reveal? I had that same energy when Mega Man made it into Smash. I could not believe it and was on air for days/weeks. I grew up on Mega Man so seeing him in my favorite crossover series was HUGE.
Honestly same for both.
I grew up with the DS and GBA so i played a Lot of the Megaman and Kingdom hearts games on those systems, so having both in smash Is exciting.
I didn't go nuts over it. I still believe it should've been Crono. I wanted Crono in since melee even though brawl was the first smash bros game that I properly played
I'm glad Max has watched his reaction to Cloud almost as much as I have
I love that in Rosalina’s trailer, DK has no interest in Luma and just immediately pokes Kirby.
Megaman is still my all time favorite. Just the chills you feel when the music starts amping up as he goes through the different weapons. Amazing.
Kid icarus is still one of Sakurai's babies so it makes sense that the Palutena trailer got so much love lol
Ah, these were simpler times.
When trailers were hype no matter the character, people weren’t threatening Sakurai/the Smash team for not adding certain characters, and generally lower overall toxicity.
Max re-acting his original reaction for Cloud's reveal warmed my heart ❤️
Robin was actually a pretty big moment for FE fans.
Awakening was the game that (for better or worse) brought the series back into the mainstream, and Robin is arguably the most important of the 3 main characters in it.
Also, Robin using magic was FINALLY a shift away from literally every FE character in Smash only using 1 of the many weapon types in the series.
Robin was actually pretty big since Fire Emblem Awakening sold like crazy back then. He wasn't as popular as Chrom or Lucina, but still a big deal.
@AT Productions And Byleth wasn't far off either since Three Houses became huge at the time.
@AT Productions the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
@AT Productions Fates was not even released back then in usa when he was revealed and the trailer received a lot of backlash similar to byleth because it was mostly destined to promote the game and he was another anime character for some people, and fates is the most hated Fe in the series. It was never the same thing for Robbin
I remember being shocked that Robin got in over Chrom but I was all for it. Loved Awakening
@@Jfray252 that's nothing new though, IIRC Roy showed up in Melee months before his own game even released in Japan.
I agree that Megaman & Cloud had two of the best overall trailers (though Palutena’s reveal had arguably the best non-CG animation), but I disagree entirely with Max’s rating of the Robin reveal. What with Fire Emblem basically being Nintendo’s post-Mario Final Fantasy, Robin showing up was one of Nintendo’s biggest flexes because they managed to prove that they had the ability to revive one of their own intellectual properties and stick it in Smash Bros.
Gameplay-wise, non-Fire Emblem fans also need to remember that Robin’s contribution to Smash includes being the first character to introduce limited resources as part of a character’s gameplay mechanic. Whereas Lucina as an echo fighter served to show Sakurai’s team had both the ability (and more importantly the BUDGET) to pull a fast one on us by using Lucina’s reveal as a red-herring, Robin is all about micromanaging resources mid-battle.
But of course, all that matters are the memes and third-party characters, right? Woo.
TL;DR: Non-Nintendo characters are cool, but a lot of them were only made possible because Nintendo knows how to flex. Robin + Lucina = BIG flex.
I wish I had actually felt the intended shock during Ryu's reveal, if it wasn't for those good-for-nothing twats who were quite active leaking and spoiling shit. The reference at the beginning of it was perfect, ideal throwback, but at the moment it was just a lukewarm "ah yeah I knew this was coming already, cool."
Ikr, just wild how both him and Roy got leaked, like their classic mode victory videos were on youtube before they got revealed
It was an oversight by the devs, which definitely wouldn’t happen in Modern Smash, given the secrecy. The devs left code for Roy and Ryu in one of the updates.
Little Mac's trailer will always be the most hype trailer to me. Especially as a Punch Out fanboy
I agree, bowser junior was hype for me too but little Mac had the best one no doubt.
I loved seeing him referencing his original reaction to Cloud. I still go back and watch that one now and again. His reaction to Cloud specifically is... kind of nostalgic to me, honestly.
Catch me always coming in for the Fire Emblem trailer reactions, I would like to bring up that the reason why Robin wasn't feeling quite as familiar as Lucina is because Robin was a customizable avatar acting as the second protagonist (with Chrom) of FE Awakening. Most people just designed their own and renamed them, so "Robin", as a character, wasn't quite as prominently shown, and even for pre-release Awakening stuff, Robin was mostly shown to be hooded, or to have multiple designs.
Awakening released in 2013 (2012 in Japan), so neither Lucina nor Robin were really long running characters. I think at the time of their reveal, they may've been the most recent existing characters to get added into Smash, but I'm not 100% sure on that. At the time, Awakening did end up becoming one of the more popular games on the 3DS though, selling a million copies within a year or two of release (ftr, both Awakening and Fates are currently sitting in the top 30 highest selling 3DS games of all time).
Far be it from me to hate an FE character addition, but I do think Corrin was a little odd. Being released before the english version of Fates dropped, coupled with the fact even people who knew about Corrin weren't the biggest fans of them as a character, thanks to Fates having poorly written them, it just leaves a strange feeling, even for me at the time. I had imported Fates and read through most of the game's fan-translation before the english release, so I was well aware of their quality as a character (or lack thereof), so I was far better equipped than most people, FE fans included, going into this reveal. I was hyped about it for sure, but less about the fact that it was Corrin, and moreso the fact that this series I had been in love with for over a decade (now nearly two decades), that had been largely ignored by practically everyone, was finally getting some extreme recognition. I don't care what anyone says, it warms my heart to know how much Sakurai loved Fire Emblem.
I do think Azura should've been the Fates rep over Corrin though, had there HAD to've been one, but I do have to admit that Corrin's tools in the game are fun, at least. I just wish they were written better in their original game haha. They're very flaky, childish, they lack awareness, most of the other main characters do all the heavy lifting (both in writing and in combat), it's hard to really get a good gauge on them. The localization for Fates is also notoriously poor, pulling tension out of scenes and improperly presenting certain characters. Fates is a decent game overall, and I do recommend it to anyone interested in the series, just not as a first game...
Finally, in much the same way that Roy was added to Melee to promote the then unreleased Fire Emblem: Binding Blade in Japan, I definitely agree that Corrin mimicked that choice without a doubt, even if Fates had released in Japan at the time. Fates did get many trailers in english before Corrin's reveal for Smash, so they were "recognizable", but as previously mentioned, yeah not many people actually knew them.
Not reading all that
@@Sanjixoxo Imagine having a One Piece pfp and you're turned off by a couple paragraphs. The jokes make themselves, mate. 😆
@@EphemeralBlitz the Reason for Fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligent Systems had an idea for Fates to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Intelligent Systems knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
I died at that re-enactment of the reveal reaction to Cloud...I have that video burned to memory by now, so hearing him repeat lines from that just got me good. Bravo you wonderful madman.
22:48 The top of DK's head has no business being this recognizable. It's amazing when character design succeeds so brilliantly.
Nostalgic I can't believe how long ago this was it still feels like it should be today at times. Summer 2014 was like nothing else with all the hype and the esrb leak and stuff. I was so big into Fire Emblem Awakening, seeing Robin's trailer with Lucina and the weapon switching and durability then was just fucking incredible. I'm also glad Chrom got his chance lol.
Lucina was one of my favorite characters in FE:A, I was so incredibly happy that she got in, even if she was pretty much just Marth.
2014 was by far the worst year of my life
Lucina and Robin's trailer was actually also the reveal of Captain Falcon.
Even though he was an OG veteran of the series, a few months prior, every *_other_* Veteran had been revealed over Sakurai's Twitter all in the same week, but Captain Falcon was notably absent from that.. Meanwhile in an interview at around the time of the Palutena trailer, Sakurai is quoted as having said that Smash4 was going to reevaluate character inclusions. And with F-Zero being a pretty dead franchise there was serious talk that he'd been removed.
It was serious hype seeing those eyes light up and that smile.
I will say, the one place where Max's biases become most known is in reaction to the 3DS fighters. Awakening pretty much blew up the Fire Emblem series so was definitely not a "who?" pick and was well received. Likewise Palutena got big fanfare because Kid Icarus Uprising was iconic for the whole system. Definitely not an unknown character.
It’s kind of like that with every Nintendo character. People forget amid all the hype for 3rd party reveals that this is still the Nintendo fighting game at the end of the day. You have to expect Nintendo characters to show up; it’s not a wasted slot or forcing YOUR most wanted 3rd party pick out. No, Robin and Little Mac won’t have as much of an impact as the biggest Capcom or Square character getting announced... but it’s about Nintendo’s legacy first, and gaming as a whole’s legacy second.
It’s like asking why there weren’t more Mortal Kombat characters in Injustice. Yeah it’s a great bonus, but at the end of the day, you’re gonna have more DC characters in your DC fighting game.
The biggest giveaway is the Shulk Trailer IMO. He knew who Shulk was because he's friends with Simmons, but Robin and Palu were easily bigger "Reveals" to the general fanbases than Shulk was at the time. So his biases show extremely hard in that stretch.
Yea it doesn't make sense when he lowers scores because he isn't aware how popular some characters are
@@ItsYuhBoyyyy it makes perfect sense cuz hes based.
His great disbelief of Cloud making it into Smash because hes never been in a Nintendo game is not true, because there was KH: Chain of Memories for the GBA and Cloud was in that game
yea when he gave Robin's trailer 6.5, that was a frown from me. But I saw it coming because I know Max doesn't care about the Fire Emblem series.
Megaman's trailer even still to this day is one of if not the best trailer for a new Smash character ever. Not even that huge of a Megaman fan having really only played X and X2, but the buildup to Megaman's reveal to all the love they show him in the trailer, its just perfect
Man, it's been such a long time since Cloud's reveal for Smash. Definitely one of the vids that introduced me to Max's channel. His enthusiasm and ability to hype up things are so contagious and wholesome.
It was my first video of his. All the other reactions didnt pick up on the opening from FF7 and were guessing Wolf. Max was the first one to immediately pick up that it was related to FF7. I had a similar reaction to Max when Cloud was announced, where I recognized the FF7 opening and the Smash Bros Logo made me lose my mind. Max's reaction is iconic to me because it mirrors my own.
1:46 2013 Reveal
4:27 Mega Man
6:49 Wii Fit Trainer
8:53 Rosalina & Luma
11:54 Little Mac
14:05 Charizard & Greninja
16:50 Palutena
21:23 Pac-Man
23:27 Mii Fighter
26:19 Lucina & Robin
30:26 Shulk
33:08 Bowser Jr.
35:57 Mewtwo announcement
37:24 MewTwo (Gameplay trailer)
38:53 Duck Hunt
41:11 Lucas
43:18 Roy
45:22 Ryu
49:08 Cloud
55:00 Corrin
58:53 Bayonetta
Shoutout to the Sonic trailer. Which revealed that 3rd party characters could come back. Even though it was super short
What I love about some of the Smash 4 trailers is that some of them had completely different animation styles
When you pointed out Pit’s high pitched voice, I then remembered that Pit is CANONICALLY AT LEAST 38 YEARS OLD.
That’s funny.
Pit is 38 years old…
*Ain’t no way…*
@@thefeatheredbutterfly7335 Here’s the thing, Medusa mentions how her and Pit last saw one another 25 years ago, and he had to be at least 12-13 years old back then (maybe older, who knows?)
Strange fact, but I feel that it fits with the Kid Icarus series.
He still can’t read 😔
@@CaptainAdultery Ah okay! I’m clueless on Kid Icarus lore, so thank you! 🤣
@@thefeatheredbutterfly7335 You’re welcome!
Roy was the exact same way as Corrin. His game was released in 2002, a year after Melee. His spot was originally supposed to go to Leif.
These trailer proves how brilliant Sakurai is. Like everything through his hand will turn out great.
Sakurai is one of the greatest game designers in history
@@soulsguy5954 Other person that helped create Smash is Satoru Iwata. RIP
I just want to point out that for the Mega Man reveal, they chose to play the two most iconic songs in the series, Mega Man 2's title theme, and the Dr. Wily Stage 1 theme, also from Mega Man 2.
that was a perfect recreation of your original reaction from the Cloud trailer, your intonation was on point.
Maxs reaction to cloud being in smash was on par when he cried during the Killer instinct return to Xbox.
Old trailers still look cool ngl
That Wily Stage 2 Music they used in Mega Man's trailer is an eternal banger.
Max reenacting his Cloud reveal trailer reaction puts a smile on my face.😁👍
Max recreating his Cloud reaction made my day LMFAO word for word such an icon
Mega Man's is pretty legendary. I'm partial to Shulk's reveal too as a fan of Xenoblade.
God I forgot how good Mac's is too.
I knew nothing about Shulk before that trailer, but seeing Shulk seeing visions like in That's So Raven holding his own with Link and Marth and seeing him change his stats made me intrigued.
@@HellfireComms Mac’s was badass loved his trailer.
Minor correction, Roy was in Super Smash Bros. Melee before his source game, Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade. Corrin wasn't the first character to be added to Smash before their source game.
*giggles, remembering Max's original reactions to the Mega Man, Cloud, and Bayonetta trailers*
I think Roy's trailer was undervalued. He was so requested to come back after not returning for brawl, it was pretty hype getting him and Marth in the same game again. The og sword boys
Favorite trailer will ALWAYS be Max seeing the cloud trailer and his reactions. 10/10
The Cloud reveal was pretty much the confirmation I needed that anybody, Nintendo based/affiliated or not, could be on this game. Was an absolutely mind breaking trailer
his megaman reaction was my earliest exposure to him, and i wouldn't even know it was him till the 2018 game awards, when i subscribed and have been an avid watcher ever since
My exposure to Max was pretty similar. I remember seeing his mega man reaction way back in the day, but I didn’t know who he was until a few years later. That’s nuts to think about
Mine was his Killer instinct 2013 reaction
My exposure to Max was in 2011 when he made top 5 moments of Evo 2011, I think he is the only youtuber I had follow for 10 years
Corrin wasn't too surprising because, if you can believe it, there actually WAS a precedent for a character from an unreleased Fire Emblem game being added to Smash in order to promote the new game.
Roy was added to Melee about 4 months BEFORE Fire Emblem 6 was released in Japan. I believe Sakurai even admitted to not really knowing what to do with him as a character. Even trying to differentiate him from Marth by having him deal more damage by hitting FURTHER from the tip of his sword, despite his actual in-game animations showing him almost always doing the exact opposite.
Seeing Iwata again kinda made me misty-eyed. Good man.
What makes the Wii Fit Trainer trailer hilarious is that Link, who has once been raised by a tree... is failing the tree pose.
Mega Man's will always be my personal favorite, hands down.
Next to him, I would say Little Mac, Pac-Man, Palutena, and Cloud had the best ones.
Gotta remember how incredible it was to see HD Smash with the first trailer, that upgrade from Brawl was beautiful.
Smash has my favorite character reveal trailers of any fighting game hands down.
IIRC, Roy in Melee was the first cross-promotion character; Marth as well to an extent since Fire Emblem on the NES never got released outside Japan at that point.
Basically, it's always Fire Emblem