If Lena is having a hard time playing a violin like this, do you imagine a beginner? It’s no wonder people have such a hard time learning violin with bad instruments.
Hi, I'm the one who plays the viola around $1000. Surely it's Chinese-made. I recommend anyone who loves cheap instruments like me to be very careful about the condition of the neck. After around 3 years of owning this viola, I found that the neck was out of joint. (This was because the original glue used on it was weak and odd.) I also replaced the saddle, soundpost, and bridge. So I've already paid the repairman more than the price I paid when I purchased the instrument itself. My Chinese viola now sounds really nice, so I'm satisfied with the result. If we are serious and dare to choose an instrument like this, we always have to be prepared for the cost of repairs! I really wish I could have an Italian instrument someday because I know they are the best. "Cheap but fine instrument" < "Good instrument among the very well made ones, preferably Italians".
One of the best videos you've created! Thanks. All three of you are clearly classical masters. I salute you. I do my best, but kind of sidestep such amazing setup on the fiddles I build---after all, they are abstract and experimental ; )
China now made all levels of violins, from factory made hundred dollars violin to master level violin s. Chinese violin makers are among the top tier violin craftsmen. If you cannot afford the master level violins, you have many options from China as well. Thanks China for your contributions to the mankind with all the quality affordable products❤🎉🎉 you make the poor still able to own a dream instrument. So lucky we have China!❤❤❤❤
More time to craft, more quality wood to choose, more,more,more, if you want to do an instrument from wood, you'll have to wait a lot, the main thing is to have a fully dry wood i think. But its impossible, its a living material. When i make an electric guitar, i'll wait six years for drying the mahogany or flame maple in my home and in a isolated small room (sounds better than what you know from an electric guitar). Shortly, more time is more money, am not a money guy but people worth it like that. So i think edgar solves these puzzles many many years ago i enjoy his videos so much thank you.
I'm getting in a super cheap violin and ordered upgrades as well. I figured that it's a great way to learn violin maintenance and upgrades. I will probably transfer the goodies to the next more expensive violin in my future next year.
Getting a better violin is better; but if you get a cheap one; I found that just changing to a wittner composite tail piece and a wittner chin rest increases the sound greatly.
Professional luthiers and violinists are rightfully biased when it comes to the quality of an instrument made by a master. However, cheaper assemly-line violins can, on occasion, give a rich and high-quality sound with the right setup. I would love to see a blind sound test experiment to see if the professionals can tell which is the cheap violin, as opposed to the high-quality violin made by someone like Edgar.
That's why i believe you don't know a super expensive instrument. I'm a cellist and in my experience a well adjusted instrument with good strings and a good bow are more than enough for a good sound and playability.
That violin sounds great after the adjustments! Mr. Edgar, I suggest a new business model for you. Buy these violins and spend another 30 min to adjust them to make them sound great and sell them. Less work than making a violin from scratch😂 I’m just kidding. Nice video as always.
I know that a €70 Violin is not good but what should someone pay for a student violin or viola of correct woods ? Would a €400 setup also be needed for that as well ? When do the expenses end?
It's a nice experience to upgrade this cheap violin, but I would just buy a 500 Euro violin. I think it would be constructed better and it would be more suitable for a beginner.
They didn't improve violin they tuned it for 400 and damaged the nut. I believe they are not fitted to do that job. But if its hobby then dont ask 400.
You're kind of overdoing the visual and sound effects. If we're watching things like this at all, you can assume that we don't have the attention span of a 6-month old.
If Lena is having a hard time playing a violin like this, do you imagine a beginner? It’s no wonder people have such a hard time learning violin with bad instruments.
Hi, I'm the one who plays the viola around $1000. Surely it's Chinese-made.
I recommend anyone who loves cheap instruments like me to be very careful about the condition of the neck.
After around 3 years of owning this viola, I found that the neck was out of joint.
(This was because the original glue used on it was weak and odd.)
I also replaced the saddle, soundpost, and bridge. So I've already paid the repairman more than the price I paid when I purchased the instrument itself.
My Chinese viola now sounds really nice, so I'm satisfied with the result.
If we are serious and dare to choose an instrument like this, we always have to be prepared for the cost of repairs!
I really wish I could have an Italian instrument someday because I know they are the best.
"Cheap but fine instrument" < "Good instrument among the very well made ones, preferably Italians".
Very nice sound after working on it.
I'm looking forward to the comparison video you mentioned at the end
Loving your edits lol. Thanks for sharing with us. I've learned a lot watching your channel and hope to some day build my own violin.
One of the best videos you've created! Thanks. All three of you are clearly classical masters. I
salute you.
I do my best, but kind of sidestep such amazing setup on the fiddles I build---after all, they are abstract and experimental ; )
China now made all levels of violins, from factory made hundred dollars violin to master level violin s. Chinese violin makers are among the top tier violin craftsmen. If you cannot afford the master level violins, you have many options from China as well. Thanks China for your contributions to the mankind with all the quality affordable products❤🎉🎉 you make the poor still able to own a dream instrument. So lucky we have China!❤❤❤❤
More time to craft, more quality wood to choose, more,more,more, if you want to do an instrument from wood, you'll have to wait a lot, the main thing is to have a fully dry wood i think. But its impossible, its a living material. When i make an electric guitar, i'll wait six years for drying the mahogany or flame maple in my home and in a isolated small room (sounds better than what you know from an electric guitar). Shortly, more time is more money, am not a money guy but people worth it like that. So i think edgar solves these puzzles many many years ago i enjoy his videos so much thank you.
Someone should place a label inside of the violin that says, "Dropped from the Po River bridge, 20xx." Part of its provenance!
I'm getting in a super cheap violin and ordered upgrades as well. I figured that it's a great way to learn violin maintenance and upgrades. I will probably transfer the goodies to the next more expensive violin in my future next year.
I think buying a more expensive violin it's better. At least the base it's better and you would have more fun upgrading that.
Getting a better violin is better; but if you get a cheap one; I found that just changing to a wittner composite tail piece and a wittner chin rest increases the sound greatly.
Close miced Edgar is vereeey good indeed. Can you re-do all ur old videos now plse?
I love Lena❤❤❤❤❤
This is exactly what I did with my $60 dollar violin after playing on it 15 years. It sounds remarkable given its price now.
Professional luthiers and violinists are rightfully biased when it comes to the quality of an instrument made by a master. However, cheaper assemly-line violins can, on occasion, give a rich and high-quality sound with the right setup. I would love to see a blind sound test experiment to see if the professionals can tell which is the cheap violin, as opposed to the high-quality violin made by someone like Edgar.
Hi Edgar thank you for the video ! Just keep in mind that the scala perfetta is 4000 euros and this violin is 70
That's why i believe you don't know a super expensive instrument. I'm a cellist and in my experience a well adjusted instrument with good strings and a good bow are more than enough for a good sound and playability.
she can make any violin sound good to me
fun video!
and that's is why hard to practice with $39 violin 😭can i send mind? for upgrade 🥺, from the Philippines 🥺
That violin sounds great after the adjustments!
Mr. Edgar, I suggest a new business model for you. Buy these violins and spend another 30 min to adjust them to make them sound great and sell them. Less work than making a violin from scratch😂 I’m just kidding. Nice video as always.
why the colour of the nut is keep changing during the playing, I am confused
do you mean the part where it switches from before and after the upgrade?
I know that a €70 Violin is not good but what should someone pay for a student violin or viola of correct woods ?
Would a €400 setup also be needed for that as well ?
When do the expenses end?
Funny! Enjoyed.
Lena 🥰
My question is why not directly buy a violin worth 500 at this point?! Is this modified violin better than a 500 one?
China also made great violins nowadays.
It's a nice experience to upgrade this cheap violin, but I would just buy a 500 Euro violin. I think it would be constructed better and it would be more suitable for a beginner.
I'm think you open this violin
& make thicknes
Bassbar
Very interesting and funny
👍
She changed bows...
They didn't improve violin they tuned it for 400 and damaged the nut. I believe they are not fitted to do that job. But if its hobby then dont ask 400.
By job I mean low cost service, by hobby I mean attempt to do that.
....[sigh]...Lena...!!
😂 ❤❤❤
Violin learning has nothing to do wih the price of the instrument.
If it's too difficult to play, and has an unpleasant sound, a beginner is much more likely to quit.
Mostly has to do with the setup
looks like cheating. The bow does not look original (Chinese).
A raw fingerboard mafe of ebony is really not expensive, same with saddle.
Pity she didn’t play the same piece before and after
You're kind of overdoing the visual and sound effects. If we're watching things like this at all, you can assume that we don't have the attention span of a 6-month old.
When your G has auto vibrato... yikes...
cool video, too much editing - those clicks are irritating